Do Americans really microwave their water?
lmfao you guys have electric kettles?
>>7728787use to have one in the 90s but then got rid of it bc I realized I wasn't living in eastern Europe
>>7728787
This is due to their inferior, low voltage electrical system.
>>7728787
Americans use 120v so it takes a lot longer for electric kettles to do the job.
>>7728816
This is why us brits need to leave the EU, they are taking away our wattage.
Oh and jobs. Yeah jobs.
>>7728825
Why does that matter?
Americans have electric hobs and ovens, don't they? If the voltage was the problem it would apply to those too wouldn't it?
>>7728827
>voltage and wattage are the same.
Retard.
>>7728883
wtf are you boiling orange juice for?
As for OP I guess it depends on what we are boiling water for? If I'm cooking something I would just use the stove.
I'm not gay so I don't drink tea but if I wanted hot water for a drink or something I would probably just use the coffee machine without any coffee in it.
>>7728861
P = V * I
Less wattage means less amps can be used to power ampliances. Learn to electrical fucker.
>England has an entire power plant dedicated to providing the huge spike needed during soccer game commercials when the entire country gets up as one and turns on their electric kettles at the same time
>>7728828
I think things like ovens can bypass that problem. It's only small electric appliances
>>7728978
Electric ovens have their own dedicated circuits with special 220v sockets, same thing for other things that use high amounts of electricity like driers.
>>7728992
>220v
Actually it's 240v. When they split power off in the neighborhood every phase is 240v, and they cut half of that off at a transformer to give you 120v. The special circuits for washers and ovens are just the same phase but not cut in half.
>>7728787
I've never heard of anyone doing that. Everyone that drinks tea or cooks coffee uses a kettle.
what happened to the NOMA thread
>>7728787
I boil my water in a pot
the hob/fire is best but you can keep a kettle in your bedroom
>>7728978
>>7728992
>he doesn't have a special 240v kettle socket in his kitchen
why doesn't america leave the united states? you'd be better off on your own.
>>7729022
Why don't you swallow after I cum?
It's a good source of protein
Oh look it's this thread again
Wow the posts differ so much
Quality board!
>yuropoors acting superior by defending the most pointless waste of counter space unitasker ever invented
Unless you drink tea 10 times a day, even a toddler can boil water on the stove...
>>7729033
Wow, great post
Such quality
Totally not metaposting
>>7729038
But I live in bongland and share a house with two other brits. We probably use the kettle 20 times a day between tea and water for cooking.
>>7728787
Because the yankies electric is only 120volts (not 240 bolts like in the UK) they cant have 3kw kettles on a 13 amp domestic plug.
Basically America electric a shit
What I'm wondering is why the Brits haven't adopted pic related. It's even more convenient than the kettle.
>>7729109
I'm 100% sure my house in Chicago is 240 single phase
>>7728787
amerifat here, no we dont
>>7729117
American homes have a center-tapped 240V circuit that feeds the house. However the only things that are wired up at 240V are major appliances like the oven, heating, air conditioner, and water heater. All the standard wall outlets are wired off the center tap and thus are 120V.
Some homes might have additional 240V outlets would that would be *very* unusual. The outlets also have a different shape configuration for safety.
>>7729115
It's... A kettle without a spout?
>>7729170
>>7729170
It keeps the water boiling hot for instant dispensing. You don't have to wait for it to heat up. Just push the button and you get instant boiling water.
Americans have water heaters you obsessive yuropoors
>>7729115
so its a keurig that doesnt make coffee
>>7728960
This equation just means that American ovens draw more current to achieve the same power.
I have lived in the united states my entire life and have never seen an electric kettle.
My kettle is stainless steel, and my coffee maker is electric.
At least we don't have two separate taps.
>>7729209
But we aren't talking about ovens, we're talking about kettles and other appliances that don't require specialised circuits. For an electric cooker we can (not current with the latest standards) but i'm sure that the regs standard for the kitchen (washer, dryer and cooker) should allow for a radial circuit with a 32A MCB.
What's the difference between microwaving a cup of water and heating it in a kettle, aside from one being much faster?
There literally isn't any, microwaving doesn't change the taste of water.
>>7729244
Also fuck you. The greatest plug ever designed.
Unless you step on it. Then you fucking deserve it.
>>7729248
Bongs literally have a designated time to drink tea, but are too stupid to put a kettle on the stove 2 minutes ahead of time, so require instant hot water less they miss their precious tea time.
>>7729248
Fucks up your wifi for the 10 minutes the microwave is running.
>>7729248
If a bong has house guests they will have to make them tea. Six cups of tea is perfectly feasible in a kettle and might run you at a minute and a half. Six cups of tea in a microwave is ridiculous. Also which do you think is faster? A kettle is about 65% efficient and a microwave 30%, assuming both appliances run at 3KW the kettle will be far faster.
>>7729265
No. Feel like a cup of tea, walk over flip a switch, get the cup, the teabag and the milk. Water is boiled and can make my tea. Job done.
>>7729266
What? The wifi in europe cannot withstand microwave use?
>>7729284
Wifi anywhere can't stand microwave use because microwaves and standard wifi both operate at about 2.5GHz frequency. When you turn on the microwave it saturates that frequency with lots of high powered noise and results in communication failures, packet losses, etc.
That's why it's a common joke picture to see something putting their wifi router on top of their microwave.
check out this water microwaving faggot
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>>7728787
I like my electric kettle. it holds 7~ cups of water (the box/instruction manual didn't say I've just kinda measured it myself) and it'll boil it in a couple minutes.
Too bad tea sucks so I don't have a reason to use it besides maybe cutting down time on boiling water for pasta. It doesn't boil long/hard enough to be used to make the ramen you let sit for 3-5 minutes in hot water.
looking for a decent stainless steel electric water kettle since I only have a shitty plastic one. (inb4 enjoy ur cancer kek)
which one do you guys recommend?
>>7729248
I don't like microwaved water for tea at least, the same way I don't like twice boiled water for tea. Of course if you "cook" something it'll change how it tastes, even HOW you "cook" it, even water.
>>7729312
No. No no no no. No.
No.
The chemical composition of water does not change at all as you heat it from room temperature to boiling. Infact it doesn't even change after it's evaporated off. Water is water.
Most of us have boiling water taps installed in the kitchen sink.
sorry poorfags
>>7729319
>all that stuff escaping the water as you boil it?
>that's nothing leaving, don't worry
Not falling for it. I didn't even know it was a thing until I questioned why my tea tasted different when I quickly microwaved a cup of it, versus taking the extra minute or two to boil the same amount on a stovetop. I thought "water is water", but it isn't. Neither is boiled water brought to room temperature and boiled again.
>>7729324
>all that stuff escaping the water as you boil it?
That's water mate. That's water "escaping".
>>7729327
No you idiot that's the flavour. All the imperfections and minerals in water are what make it taste like water. If you just had H2O it would taste wildly different than what we're used to.
When you boil water (aka, when you distill it) the stuff that evaporates out first is the adulterants and imperfections.
>>7729336
Minerals don't evaporate, mate. Those are the things left behind when water gets boiled off. That's WHY distillation is a thing, because it gives you pure water/alcohol without any of the minerals and organics.
>>7729336
Wow.
People this ignorant are actually giving advice on the food and cooking board as though they know what they're talking about.
>>7729209
>American ovens draw more current to achieve the same power.
Theoretically. But that's not what actually happens.
In the US the outlet for an OVEN is 240V 50 or 60 amps. That's the same as in the UK.
But we're not talking about the oven. We're talking about things plugged into a normal wall socket. In the US that's 120V and either 10 or 15 amps, but in the UK that's 240V and 15 amps.
>>7729340
>Minerals don't evaporate
then how pyramids disappearing?
checkmate, atheist
>>7729340
>>7729349
Okay then why does boiled water taste so much more pure than regular tap water? Also you're pretty much wrong about distillation. How would it make sense to just boil away the water and alcohol to be left with even less pure water/alcohol?
You distill the liquid until it's pure by boiling out imperfections. That's how it works.
>>7729354
>Also you're pretty much wrong about distillation. How would it make sense to just boil away the water and alcohol to be left with even less pure water/alcohol?
Mate. Mate you need to know how distillation works. You don't collect the water that's being heated. You collect the water that's boiled off.
>>7729354
>Okay then why does boiled water taste so much more pure than regular tap water?
Boiling water drives of any volatiles in the water, such as the chlorine added for safety purposes.
>>7729359
>major alcohol producers have rigged up beakers and shit like it's 1735 that somehow collect vaporized booze from the air
>they accomplish this by mixing cold water with air
>I am very smart
Take like 15 steps back and realize how retarded you are.
>>7729367
That's my point you jackhole. I'm saying when you boil water the impurities like chlorine and copper and shit all vaporize away into the air. These other jabronis are saying that when you boil water you somehow increase the level of chlorine.
>>7729368
>somehow collect vaporized booze
That's called "condensation", anon.
>>7729374
What you need to understand is that only SOME of the stuff leaves.
The chlorine does, becase it's boiling point is lower than 100C. However the various MINERALS and metals (like the copper you mentioned) do not boil off--they stay behind in the water. Why? Because their boiling point is much higher than 100C.
When you boil water you only lose those things whose boiling point is lower than the water. Chlorine? Yes. Minerals and pipe residue? No.
>>7729382
What grass thatched hut did you receive your education from you filthy savage? Now there's different boiling points?
It's a fundamental law of physics that the boiling point is 100 degrees Celsius. Shit man, that's why they invented Celsius in the first place. Just like the freezing point is 0 degrees.
>>7729368
Are you joking?
Ethanol his a lower BP than water, so you can't just fucking boil the water off, the stuff left behind is water
>>7729374
pretty sure copper doesn't evaporate out of water
>>7729289
Use the 5g then retard.
>>7729289
i literally have a microwave in my bedroom and my wifi works just fine when im cooking my tgi fridays meals
>>7729289
buy a better router man, I've never even heard of someone having this issue in America
>>7729388
Insulting someones education even though you clearly never had physics or chemistry in school?
How about you just google metal boiling points instead of embarrassing yourself any further
>>7729322
>drinking boiler water
what the fuck
>>7729526
There's a reason you boil water to clean it, and it's not only third world country impurities reasons. It makes it taste different. Twice boiled water will taste different than once boiled water.
>>7729506
Its actually true. It normally kicks up at 6:30 on most days, which is the time when adverts start on most channels after people have been eating dinner. Its also used for other predictable peaks in power usage, like people waking up and having a tea.
>>7729552
Boiling water will take care of a few mostly organic impurities, though its mostly used in the third world to kill microorganisms that could make you sick, not for chemical impurities
I have an electric kettle. What is with this "Americans don't have electric kettles" meme?
>>7729322
Enjoy your legionnaires.
>>7729552
Like when you fry chips three times they're better. Same with water.
>>7729649
I think it's a way for third-world citizens to try and feel relevant. All these "do Americans really do this?!" shitposting stinks thickly of desperation to be noticed.
American with an electric kettle, by the way.
I have an American made kettle which boils super fast on UK 240v circuit, probably explains it if it was made for slow electricity in the states.
>>7729712
if you fried water with oil, maybe. oil makes stuff taste good
>>7729792
Water and oil don't mix you stupid idiot.
>>7729649
You must admit that having an electric kettle is uncommon in America, water is usually boiled on the stove.
If Brits don't get their dose of tea, they turn nasty, that's why they have electric kettles - they boil faster.
>>7729904
oil and chicken don't mix, I still fry it
>>7728828
Fun fact: US and Canada run on 240v as well. Electric ranges and ovens use a 240v circuit, as do other high wattage electrical devices, like air conditioners and hot water tanks/furnaces.
If you wanted to, you could run a 240 circuit to your kitchen counter, hook up a EU style receptacle, buy a 240v kettle, and it would work in precisely the same manner as it does in Europe.
This is against code, but it's not like the send the electricity police into your house to check on you and make sure you're not being naughty.
>>7729974
Except they do. You can easily emulsify chicken and oil.
>>7730015
>If you wanted to, you could run a 240 circuit to your kitchen counter, hook up a EU style receptacle, buy a 240v kettle, and it would work in precisely the same manner as it does in Europe.
Ehhhhhh not precisely. 60Hz vs. 50Hz is still a non-zero contributor to power calculations in any real-world machine, which in the case of kettles and heating elements and motors that's due to the inductance. What's going to happen is you'll have more reactive power at 60Hz, which means that you'll need to draw more current from the lines in order to have the desired real power than you would at 50Hz. For some applications this may not be significant, for others it could mean tripping a breaker or even worse -- starting a fire.
>>7730057
>more reactive power at 60Hz
Sorry that's wrong. More reactive impedance at 60Hz, which means LESS reactive power. The point is you're operating the machine at a specification it wasn't designed for, and depending on the machine that could be very bad.
>>7730015
>If you wanted to
>This is against code
I think what the other posters are saying is . . .240V is the standard at any electrical outlet in Europe.
>>7730057
> What's going to happen is you'll have more reactive power at 60Hz, which means that you'll need to draw more current from the lines
Lulwut.
>>7730072
>Lulwut
Reactive power is hard to explain without complex imaginary numbers. Basically real power is what gets turned into heat by the kettle, reactive power is what gets turned into the magnetic field of the heating element (a coil of wire). Reactive power isn't "consumed" like real power, and doesn't do any "work". It just means you need to supply more power to the device than you "should" be supplying if you were only using P=I*V, since that equation is only for real power.
The impedance of a coil of wire is based on the frequency of the voltage being applied. It changes as frequency changes, hence the power will chance as frequency changes too.
>>7730100
>The impedance of a coil of wire is based on the frequency of the voltage being applied
WHOOOAAAA
You are over thinking it mate . . .. I don't reckon for one moment that this could be an issue on a simple appliance.
>>7730115
It's enough of an issue with pretty much all appliances that power companies have to put compensation on the lines. Since the vast majority of machines humans use are inductive loads (which will give you "positive" reactive power), then the power company has to put banks of capacitive loads on the lines (which have "negative" reactive power) to balance it out.
The IDEAL they want is zero reactive power, positive or negative, because then you're in that perfect P=I*V world and what you need to supply is exactly what the customer needs to draw.
Fun fact: If there are extremely heavy ice storms the power company can do a similar manipulation and unbalance the real and reactive power of the lines so much that the lines heat up and keep from getting covered in ice (which could weigh them down and break them and cause you to need to send out line crews).
>>7730123
I am a simple production engineer, so I am not familiar with what you are saying here . I'm unsure the British Power companies compensate for icy lines (it's not relevant in bongland anyway)
I understand what you are saying about inductive loads but I don't think it's that much of an issue.
Its great when I want water for my french press at 4 am without waking my housemates with the fire alarm
>>7729010
this. i keep mine in my room.
>>7731222
Fuck you James your banging around wakes me up anyway.
>>7730123
60 Hz is nothing, you need a fuckton of turns to get meaningful inductance. A heating element doesn't have them.
Running a 50 Hz designed washing machine or fridge on 60 Hz is not a good idea, but a simple kettle doesn't matter.
>>7729322
The most popular ones here are now simply a single faucet, with cold/hot mix and boiling water in one.
I don't think it's really worth it. With a 3000W hot water dispenser you have a cup of boiling water in 30 seconds and I just know I'm going to fuck up and burn myself with those faucets.
>>7728827
Sandniggers are talking away your jobs, not EU.
>>7729552
>move to yurop
>open stall selling refried water
>people complain about the taste
>boil it a third time
>start a new trend with delicious thrice-cooked water
>>7729388
>the boiling point
>the freezing point
>>7729388
haha have you not been through freshman year science yet?
