Indisputably the best vegetable. So much variety. Raw, stewed, baked, reduced etc. The list goes on. This red little piece of heavenly nectar has fueled Italian cuisine for millennia. Where would the world be without tomatoes?
Let us have a moment of silence to honor the tomato.
Fruit
Italy didn't have tomatoes until the 16th century at earliest
>>7534467
>fueled Italian cuisine for millennia
Utter retard.
>>7534481
Okay, half of a millennium!
>>7534467
>posts lame bait.
>actually makes a fool of himself
Idiot.
>>7534497
Okay, now you're just hurting my feelings. The tomato IS the best vegetable.
>>7534522
Fruit
>>7534522
It's not a vegetable
As much as I like this fruit, it tastes like cucumber when you buy them in winter or keep them in the fridge for too long.
>>7534526
Not technically, but nutritionally and the way it tastes makes it closer to a vegetable, which is why society as a whole has accepted it as such.
>>7534467
>millennia
Get a load of this dipshit.
Tomatoes didn't make it to the old world until the 16th Century you mong.
>>7534537
It's a figure of speech.
>>7534537
Fun fact: The first tomatoes to arrive in Italy were yellow in colour, hence their name "pomodoro", which consists of "pomo" (Apple) and "dorato" (Golden). Golden Apple.
Even Italians know tomatoes are fruits.
>>7534548
>It's a figure of speech.
No it isn't you retard.
#subeducational
The very things that you are raving about tomatoes over are the result of it being a fruit, not a vegetable.
That makes it kinda relevant.
Acidity, fruit.
Liquid content, fruit.
Sugar content, fruit.
Flesh that can be cooked down to sauce instead of slime, fruit.
>>7534561
Read a book dumbass.
I greatly enjoy the smell tomato vines have. You know the one, quite a strong herb odour that just screams freshness. It's probably the one reason I'd choose to grow tomatoes myself even though I'm not in the right climate for it, I just love the way the plants smells.
Anybody ever tried smoking that shit?
>>7534571
You can grow cherry tomatoes in a coffee tub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNXR85ec5Z4
>>7534542
It's a fruit.
>>7534563
A medium tomato has only 3 grams of sugar. Compare that to something like an apple which has 13 grams.
>>7534574
did you just unironically link to Cooking with Jack?
Also, I've been thinking about growing some indoor or building a cold frame like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe07IS_0SpI
>>7534585
Yes I did, however the video does not contain Jack.
>>7534583
I can grow them as sweet as apples.
You'll at least concede that it's biologically a fruit, no?
Onion is the best vegetable desu senpai.
Used in every cuisine, a whole lot of foods (basically almost everything except sweet stuff), easy to grow and store.
Potato is a pretty close second I'd say because of it's variety (fried, cooked, boiled, deep fried, pureed, etc)
Attention! Some gentleman in this thread have been triggered and have sunken to the depths of calling me (OP) a "retard" because I said the tomato has supported Italy for "millennia".
I would like to clear this up. When I said millennia, I was merely exaggerating. Are you familiar with this term? But I digress.
You may continue the thread.
>>7534606
Too late, we will forever laugh at you for this.
>>7534595
oh yeah garlic for similar reasons as onion
>>7534595
Good points. Onions and potatoes are close seconds. If they had a bit more nutritional value, who knows who could be first.
>>7534603
>Strawberries are biologically a nut but nobody gives much of a shit about that in cooking
This is why I specified biologically. When it comes to cooking, what we choose to call things doesn't matter so much as the fact that we call them. Sunflower seeds arent seeds, but honestly who gives a shit?
>>7534612
>potatos have no nutritional value
?
>>7534626
I said a bit more, not implying they have none.
>>7534467
>millennia
>>7534583
Okay, so not a sweet fruit, now compare to spinach or asparagus... You know vegetables.
Cucumbers are actually melons.
This is now a thread about things that cooks and scientists classify differently.
>>7534603
>Strawberries are biologically a nut
no they aren't, they are an aggregate fruit
also nuts are fruit anyway
ALSO BOTANICAL CLASSIFICATION OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES IS DIFFERENT FROM CULINARY CLASSIFICATION
>>7534487
250 years tops, actually.
>>7534628
You can live off of potatoes and milk and be healthy
>>7536440
You'd be the healthiest young corpse in the graveyard.
>>7534467
>millennia
columbian exchange is less than 500 years old you dip
>>7534561
it absolutely is oh my god fuck off
>>7534556
The Italian for an apple is mela
![p3mltwhzguhggl6bxyqv[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DdcIyXT.png "p3mltwhzguhggl6bxyqv[1].png")
Pic related, the only good tomatoes sold here in Norway (imported from the Netherlands, I think).
Big tomatoes taste absolutely nothing here.
>>7534556
In the northen dialects is generally called Tomat or something like that
>>7534556
Fun fact: potatoes are called pomme d'terre in French, from pomme (apple) and d'terre meaning of the earth.
Even French know potatoes are fruits.
>>7538429
"Pomo" is a literary Italian term for apple.
Nowadays basically no one uses it anymore, but you can still find it in certain expressions e.g. pomo d'Adamo > Adam's apple
>>7538779
It's usually the same in Denmark. If you don't grow them yourself, the big ones wont be very useful.
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>>7534526
Vegetable is a culinary classification, not a scientific one. A "fruit" has both a scientific usage and a culinary one. Its a purely semantical.
A tomato is certainly considered a vegetable, and is the "fruit" of the tomato plant but is not a fruit in the culinary sense.
>>7534580
In the context of cooking it's a vegetable. Get over it.
>>7540880
>a tomato is certainly considered a vegetable
This has always pissed me off.
Why the fuck is a tomato considered a vegetable? Because it's sometimes used in savory dishes? So are many other fruits.
It's round, sweet, bright colored, has seeds, and can be eaten just like any other fruit. "Culinary Vegetable" is such bullshit.
>>7540965
Why do you care this much?
Fruits are mostly all used in sweet dishes and desserts, although sometimes they aren't. Peppers and tomatoes are mostly all used in savory dishes, although sometimes they aren't.
tomotoes actually pre-date the big bang
>>7534571
>I greatly enjoy the smell tomato vines have
I like it, too. That's part of why I like raw green beans (with dip) so much. They have the same "green" smell.
>>7534603
>I love onions but I hate how the ones I currently have started sprouting inside the fucking bag.
Is it a translucent bag? I haven't had onions sprout unless they were exposed to light for at least a couple hours a day.
>>7540984
IF YOU CAN REASONABLY HARVEST THE CROP WITHOUT KILLING THE PLANT IT'S A FRUIT.
OTHERWISE IT'S A VEGETABLE.
JESUS CHRIST IT'S NOT HARD.
>>7540923
No its not, you fruit
>>7540880
No its not you fucking aspie
Why do you even care that it isnt?
>>7541163
Tomato is a fruit
Sorry your mother didnt hold your head down in the water long enough when you were a child
>>7540768
It's pomme de terre not pomme d'terre kek
As a linguist, I'd say it's not a mistake though but it does put your informations in perspective
Also OP tomatoes are a god blessing, best vegetable indeed, so easy to cook with
Now I love cucumber too, is it that I'm more of a fruit guy after all...?
>>7541382
Superior avocado/other fruit hybrid coming through.
>>7541165
Well yeah if you want to be botanically correct it is. But then you are going to have to include the following as "fruit":
Pumpkin
Cucumber
Squash
Eggplant
Avocado
Peppers of all kinds
Zucchini
Sugar Snap Peas
Green Beans
And as you can see that would be real fuckin stupid. Fruit and Veg are often used separately and much more frequently with their classification. Tell us the next time you see a tomato in a fruit salad, this is /ck/ not /sci/
>>7541397
Woah there is more
Keep goin
>>7534525
>>7534526
>>7534563
>>7534580
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>>7541165
Amazing
>>7541382
>pomme d'terre
>As a linguist, I'd say it's not a mistake
It is a mistake, you can't contract anything just because. Such a contraction would be utilized when the next letter is a vowel: "pomme d'air" for example would be correct.
>>7541564
>as a linguist
There are no mistakes but there are only "occurrences non-normatives" for us, or non-normatives cases I'm not sure it translates well, because rules of language are pretty arbitrary when you look at them closely, and it's more interesting to see "pomme d'terre" and think about why he wrote it like this than to say "that is a mistake" from a linguistic
Pov
Now of course, as you said, it is a mistake
>>7541621
What I wanted to say but I forgot : the mistakes of today are the rules of tomorrow
>>7541629
I'm never going to accept texting type or twitter lingo. Never. I don't even respond to people on 4chan who type shit like "lol @ ___".
>>7541656
It's probably not gonna happen, rules in language evolution is that it'll evolve in a way that it becomes easier for us to use, but the academy is also very strict these days and had his saying in this evolution, also evolutions take ages, of course there are new words and new way of using them, but for "@" to replace "at" in academy, science, art, etc. It would take like 200 years
Now don't be a butthurt about the way people use language, there is always a time and a place in which your way of using it offends people too
>>7534480
And yet they keep harping about traditional pizza.
If a tomato is a fruit, does that make ketchup a jam?
>>7542062
Only if you have no idea what you're talking about, which seems to be the case.
>>7541726
>for "@" to replace "at" in academy, science, art, etc
Do kids even learn cursive anymore, or how to write a formal business letter?
It seems like almost everything is done over casual emails and often texts these days. Academic fields will definitely hold out, but in a generation or two, when everyone grew up thinking writing like that is normal, it probably will become the norm.
>>7541507
Still a fruit.
>>7534473
Prove it.
>>7542062
Not without pectin.
>>7542093
>Do kids even learn cursive anymore
Actually no. Not only do they not teach it anymore but the teachers get angry if you write in it.
>>7540965
>Why the fuck is a tomato considered a vegetable?
It isn't.
The Compromise Tariff of 1833 set higher taxes and fees on the transport of vegetables compared to fruit. Since tomatoes were in high demand, they were ruled to be vegetables in the 1863 court case Nix v. Hedden so they could be taxed more effectively.
>>7542110
The teacher is probably just sick of it because the kid never learned to write proper cursive and it's unreadable.
>>7542110
>this is what public school in America looks like
In private school we were only supposed to write in cursive. What a waste of fucking time, when we entered the real world the large majority of people couldn't even fucking read it.
>>7542154
Her name's Alyssa.
>>7542167
Did she died?
>>7542163
I started public elementary school around 1990 and they began teaching cursive side by side with regular print as soon as you started reading and writing.
since we're talking vegetables-but-not-really-vegetables-but-basically-vegetables, that's not a mushroom OP.
>>7534563
>Flesh that can be cooked down to sauce instead of slime, fruit.
Holy shit I never realised that. That is a great point. Try cooking down an eggplant or some carrots and you just get a mess of shit. Tomatoes confirmed for fruit.
>>7534467
>94% water
If I wanted water I would get some from the sink. The best vegetable would actually have a main ingredient other than water.
>>7534467
YOU SPELT POTATO WRONG BUDDY !
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>>7542240
Potato isn't a fruit you retard.
>YOU SPELT VEGETABLE WRONG BUDDY !
>>7542240
Potatoes don't even count towards your five a day recommended fruit and veg.
What the fuck?
>>7542247
potatoes also spike your blood sugar more than actual sugar.
>>7542227
Eggplant's a fruit.
>>7542243
Potato isn't a vegetable you retard.
>YOU SPELT STARCH WRONG BUDDY !
>>7542095
good meme dipshit
I'm Italian and I'm allergic to tomatoes. Feels bad.
>>7540923
its really not, just because cooks call it a veggie doesn't mean it is
>>7540923
Does that mean a green mango is a vegetable?
>>7541163
but the abolition of slavery was not even close to the reason for the civil war
>>7534534
It's closer to a fruit nutritionally speaking. It's high in vitamin C like most other berries. It's a fucking berry. In culinary terms it's a vegetable.
If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, it's that tomatoes are vegetables.
>>7542199
>tfw in the working world no one wants to see your cursive shit.
They spent years drilling that shit into us and as soon as you get out any form you fill out is block capitals and any report you write is typed out and any notes you take for others to read have to be legible.
>>7541382
>linguist
>thinks information has a plural form
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>>7544972
>doesn't understand that I'm a French speaker
>is not impress by my nearly flawless ability to speak another language
>doesn't even speak german
>is a moron
>>7547535
Ich spreche Deutsch muttersprachlich, du Kapitulationsschwuchtel.
And no, I'm not impressed with your "near flawless" skills, especially since you had to point out how good you are despite fucking up simple things like informations. French pleb.
>>7534563
Jesus christ is true anon. Cannot refute it in my brain, argument over.
On to next point, Italians are stupid tomato nigs, why would you follow their lead op?
>>7548434
Haha I'm not french, joke's on you
>>7534527
Because tomatoes shouldn't be kept in the fridge, dumbass.
