>>1260637
Its common for businesses to pay other businesses in 30 days or so. You're a freelancer, and essentially a business.

If it takes too long, take him to small claims court, or whatever the equivalent is in Syrian Germania.

>>1260637
>not sending file, asking for a payment agreement first
eh, if you want any sort of future business or care in the slightest, you would have sent the file and followed up with something like:
"an invoice will be sent next week".

dont fucking hold the file ransom you twit, you're not selling drugs

>>1260637
always get payment first

>>1260657
I've heard of multiple cases, were people didn't pay because they already had the files, it was very hard to get anything from them
>>1260661
I know that now, but it doesn't help me with this problem

>>1260669
then either become legitimate or risk this happening again every single time you try to hock some shit.

here's the breakdown:
>Regardless of whether you get paid, you invested your time by now.
>If you sent the file and an invoice, or anything related to a contract or compensation, you have a chance of getting your money.
>If you just bullshit in emails with a guy, good fuckin luck arguing that one in court.

keep it simple next time, you shouldnt give a fuck what his bank account info is like and him moving money around doesnt concern you or affect the price.

>>1260643
my father is a lawyer and he told me that taking it to any kind of court is way to expensive for this amount of money.
He says the only way for me is a debt collection agency (I hope that's the right english word) but he doubts they accept a case like this with only one mail as prove and the other person residing in france.

I want to know, if anyone has any other suggestion how i can put pressure on this guy

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>>1260678
wait, i think ive got a better understanding of what you did now: you didn't agree on compensation before starting the job, did you?

why

>>1260677
that's true, but I think him telling me to write an invoice of 350€ in exchange for the files is considered a written contract that would be sufficient. I just don't know how to use this 'evidence'

>>1260682
as i wrote in the OP post:

>me very excited, not thinking about making a proper business offer and contract

I'm pretty new to this, I'm dumb and also I wasn't sure if it would really come to the point were my design would get accepted. I'm just trying to rescue what I can here

In the future get a retainer to make sure all parties are serious.

>>1260678
You could represent yourself. Even your father could represent you. But next time, get a legal insurance.

When I don't get what I deserve I always threaten to sue people. Not in so many words, I just give them a reasonable term to pay. And if not then I escalate it out of principle. And I only had to go to court two times. On both occasions I got my expenses back.

>>1260637

>Freelance programmer. 8 years industry experience.

Take this a lesson to have your clients pay you 25%-50% up front. This does two things.

1. Shows both parties are serious about a business transaction.

2. Makes them more likely to pay the other 50%-75% percent.

I always charge 25% to new clients 50% to returning ones. Anyone that has paid the 25% has never not paid. We're talking 100s of clients here. We're in a similar industry so this could work.

Also you basically have no recourse if the amount is small and they don't pay.

I think the problem here is that he'd have to sue someone who's in France, while OP is from Germany.

Good luck suing someone from another country.

>>1260698
I think the biggest concern i have is what >>1260729 said..

>>1260709
call me stupid, but I don't get why you would make the returners pay more?
But thanks for the help, you always learn I guess