I just saw a kikebook feed thats got a thousand likes to "boycott amazon".
I don't get it. They provide such an awesome service with the one day delivery thing and I get comfy discounts every month.
So why do SJWs hate it so much?
>>1123675
>bezos
>Bezos was born Jeffrey Preston Jorgensen in Albuquerque, New Mexico to Jacklyn (née Gise) and Ted Jorgensen.[10] His maternal ancestors were settlers who lived in Texas, and over the generations acquired a 25,000-acre (101 km2 or 39 miles2) ranch near Cotulla.
>>1123675
>hurrr muh SJW's
It has nothing to do with that you fucking retard. Amazon objectively treats their workers like shit, both blue collar and white collar. Bezos has said that official Amazon policy is that employees are disposable. Now other businesses are seeing Amazon's success and trying to mimic their abuse of employees.
But I guess having a sense of common decency makes me an SJW? You fucking corporate apologist cucks. You try to justify whatever is bad for you because
>hurr I'm actually actually a rich person living a poor person's life
>>1123704
maybe if those plebs learned some actual marketable skills they wouldn't be stuffing diapers in boxes for a living
They treat American workers like Chinese sweat shop children. I worked at a facility myself during college. You have to ask just to use the bathroom or walk to the water fountain so they can take the time off of your pay. The breaks were only 20 minutes which barely allowed you to walk to the breakroom and back (these warehouses are fucking huge). I hear now they even put trackers on people so they deduct pay for time standing around.
>>1123715
lol at entitled lazy americans who think that amazon is treating them unfairly
>>1123721
If you would Google "Amazon lawsuit" you would understand that the Justice System does too, not just lazy Americans. I won't blame you for ignorance.
>>1123711
>i-it was their fault
HOLY SHIT, do you fags see what I mean?
These are fucking software developers with who are more educated than you will ever be, who are squeezed for everything they're worth until they're burnt out, and then they're dropped. This kind of behavior is now spreading to other businesses.
People like you would try to justify Bezos strapping you down and taking a nice big diarrhea shit in your mouth. After all, he's entitled to do that because he's sooo successful a worked soooo hard to get where he is.
>>1123726
>kike ran kiddy gloves SJW affirmative action american legal system
lol
>>1123739
get an education you stupid faggot
>have a giant business
>can't turn a profit
>tfw I buy $2 Chinese trinkets off of Amazon and demand next day delivery
>live in the middle of nowhere
>must cost at least 20x what I paid just to get me my novelty back scratcher
In my day trolling meant something
>>1123742
Wow, amazing argument from the rich person in a poor person's body. Let's see what he does next!
>>1123721
>lol at entitled lazy americans who think that amazon is treating them unfairly
I agree with the sentiment, but you suck at expressing your ideas.
>being treated like sweatshop kids
Every day you show up at work is an implicit declaration that you support the situation. In effect, you are willing to put up with bullshit in exchange for a paycheck.
>>1123752
Holy shit, lel. NEET confirmed.
>m-muh nocoiners
>>1123745
i believe the individual seller of your item would have to handle some of those costs
>>1123754
>this incredible nocoiner butthurt
keep working for that minimum wage mate, you'll be rich eventually
>>1123759
I'm a mechanical engineer developing state of the art technology who loves his job. :^)
And then there's brainlet cucks like you who will never accomplish anything and want to fuck everyone else over in order fulfill delusions of being a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
>being a useful idiot
>>1123752
Hah! The joke's on you. I've invested all of my life savings and stolen money from mu parents to invest in meme currency. I'll be driving in my Ferrari and fucking high end escorts while you'll be driving in a Toyota Camry while fumbling with Tenga eggs.
>>1123765
I literally earned more in the last few days of ETH gains than you will earn in a year.
Fucking lold
>>1123752
This. Anyone that doesnt have ethercuck is poor.
>>1123774
Fucking lold too.
Ethercuck to the moon!
>>1123704
If it is so terrible, why don't they just leave amazon? It's not like it's forced slavery.
Well they (Amazon) are operating at non-profitable price levels.
And there are those things called anti-trust laws.
>>1123704
You're voluntarily choosing to work at amazon. Stop being an entitled shit. What would be your alternative if Amazon didn't exist? I can't stand morons like yourself.
>>1124027
You're disposable. Welcome to the world kiddo.
>>1124027
>lmao being this disposable
>>1123733
Mate I drink with about a dozen Amazon programmers weekly. None of what you just said is even close. The culture of certain teams picks up people who sacrifice themselves for the job, but most staff barely work 40 hours and all of my friends and all of their coworkers they talk to just hang out idly throughout the day. I'm in a group text with 4 of them right now who each make 150k+ And got stocks. They fucking take naps while I'm in constant meetings at my job.
And if they had a hard fucking time at Amazon there are countless companies out here in Seattle who would hire them in a second for no less than 120k.
Amazon is shit to the low wage employees for sure, and that's where th issue ends. Bezos does work hard though and he gives a fuck load of freedom to anyone who actually works on projects. it's not spreading to shit you fucking retard. A few redditors got intimidated, that's all that happened on that side of things. Amazon doesn't give a shit about entitled fags and the industry is still bloated to hell with too many benefits and needless expenses to get "good" employees in. If you have any problem with Amazon you would probably boycott every single clothing or food company.
>>1124065
Do you see me crying about it? Exactly. Who's cucked again? Oh right, you.
Your tears are just lubing the gears of that monster corporation striving for absolute monopoly.
By all means, boycott and give them some free press to grow even larger.
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>>1124102
>dumbs things down to good vs bad
>calls me a retard
Go build your network of whiners fighting against "bad" then. There's no shortage of them. Good luck going up a quarter of a trillion dollar company, you'll need it.
As an investor in a growth stock I'm happy to see them striving for total dominance. How people like you feel is not only secondary to that, it probably isn't even on their radar since you don't matter.
>>1123733
they provide me the best service of any online retailer, so I support them. if box packers are being treated unfairly then they can find a new job, no one is holding a gun to their head.
>>1124102
Because your sources live on Capitol Hill and can't even imagine a situation where they would actually be expected to work hard. They probably scoffed at their new monitors and asked for a bigger dog park. Or they literally work in a warehouse.
>>1124125
>downward pressure on your own working conditions and income due to network effects in the labor market
>a desirable outcome
Yeah, you're clinically retarded.
Because working at Amazon requires a strong work ethic which SJWs hate. Their ideal workplace revolves around affirmative action and prioritizing the worker over the customer.
>Walmart of the online shopping world
>People expect them to treat their employees well
>>1124151
That's business. They don't care how you feel. No one does. You're not owed anything. If anything your paranoia makes sure they squeeze every drop of work out of you while you walk on eggshells. Pretty efficient to be honest.
If you feel otherwise go ahead and march into HR, let them know how irreplaceable you are and demand a raise. You'll be pounding bricks before you can say your replacements name; Pajeet.
>>1124184
Don't bother reasoning with him. All leftists are unambitious loafers who can't work for shit. The whole world is stacked up against them and there's nothing they can do about it. They have this idea that all they should need to live comfortably is a degree and a government which rewards laziness and punishes entrepreneurship.
>>1124204
I seriously can't tell if posters like you are joking or not. You don't have to misanthropic just because your life is shit
>>1124204
Spot on.
>>1124219
>b-business is really c-cut-throat?
>o-o-oh my gawd they hate humanity
I worked at Amazon. Both camps of idiots in this thread are right. The working conditions are shit, but they're not medieval. You are agreeing to the conditions by working there.
Warehousing in general sucks. Me and my friends were order pickers. We worked 10 hour shifts five times a week minimum. The average employee will walk somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 miles a shift. That's not strenuous in and of itself. Reading the orders as they come through and filling bins adds a bit to the exertion level, though. Add in that some shelves are at floor level, and some require a step stool, and it gets much more difficult. Still not awful. For the pay, it was a decent gig. Amazon employees were getting $16/hr. Here's where it veers off into the grey:
Amazon was no longer hiring anybody. They hired through a temp agency. This is fairly common in the warehousing world, but the six months of temp is not. It's typically two. It didn't matter to me, as this was a summer gig, but the quality of job applicants was lowered by this temp agency. They needed the crappy employees due to turnover. Here's why turnover was ridiculous:
During a ten hour shift, you get three breaks. Two ten minute ones, and a 30 minute lunch. These warehouses are fuck huge and take around ten full minutes of a brisk walk to go end to end. Going to the bathroom outside of these times is penalized. Getting a drink of water during your shift is difficult. Managers would unplug the coolers at the start of another round. I constantly had to plug them back in if I wanted a drink. Still not cartoonishly evil, though.
Cont.
>>1124204
Functionality of society is based on common trust. Slave-labour is violence, violence is a sign of ineptitude. Ineptitude is waste.
It would better for the world to remove cynics such as yourself.
>>1124236
I can't understand why you wouldn't want better working conditions for fellow citizens. I don't blame Amazon for taking advantage of the situation, it's only logical that they do. It falls on the government to put in place regulations to benefit the people.
>>1124238
Can vouch for this
Order picked for the medium/ large sized items warehouse here in SoCal
walking 10 a day and picking up 25-49lb items all day got me ripped af
>>1124238
The warehouse is essentially a tin box on a gigantic slab of asphalt. It gets hot as fuck. It is also three stories high. The top floor can be over 110°. At these temperatures, employee safety becomes a concern. Breaks are extended to 15 and 35 minutes. There is no air circulation in the building. No climate control. Amazon would simply park three ambulances at the entrance and wait for the inevitable heat stroke/heat exhaustion case. You would get a saline IV and some ice, a thirty minute respite, then be asked to hit the floor again. This never happened to me, as I'm in fairly good shape, but it illustrated how much Amazon cared about their employees. It was the lolfuckyou moment for me and my friends. We had the option to go other places/go back to school. People trying to support a family don't. They're idiots for starting one in the first place, but still.
That sort of bullshit breeds contempt in a workplace. 60 hour weeks were the norm, and 30 minutes of time were sieve going through security off the clock. That's theft of time on Amazon's part. Security like that was implemented because employee theft at these warehouses is through the roof. Mostly due to the toxic culture. I've stolen twice in my life. I forgot to pay for food when I was drunk as shit in Sheetz, and I stole over $5,000 worth of merchandise from Amazon.
It's a great service, a neat business model, and awe inspiring from a logistics standpoint; but a nightmare of basic decency. You have a job in America. You expect certain things. I.e: not passing out, getting an IV, and being told to go back to work.
Shortly after my friends and I quit, OSHA cited our warehouse for a ton of shit and mandated they put air conditioning in the building. It was listed as one of the five worst places in America to work.
I'm not bitching; just sharing my experience there.
>>1124241
How poetic. Is that the kind of profound wisdom that a $50,000 arts degree bestows upon you? Too bad you can't find a job with it though.
>>1124244
I'm a business owner and an investor not an idealist. I could care less if you or anyone else has a back breaking job mixing concrete 12 hours a day. It's laughable to watch people who instead of taking the time to equip themselves with more marketable skills instead blame the market itself for their own failures.
>>1124268
I've seen this so many times. Some dipshit gets an enterprise running and suddenly thinks he's above all the petty mortals that used to bully him in school.
Do you also post deep Rand-quotes on Facebook while bitching every 4 hours about how the evil commie government knows nothing about anything and how all rules are just pointless burden upon the Creators?
>>1124268
Why are you so bitter? I'm nearly finished my civil engineering degree with internship experience and will graduate in the top 10% of my class. I do work hard to gain marketable skills, but at the same time I don't feel cut off from the emotions and wellbeing of others surrounding me.
>>1124276
>Wahhhhhhh
Judging by your attitude you've run a legitimate business in your entire life. Either that or you're more in touch with your 'feels' now because someone like me steam-rolled your ass or undercut you until you had to fold up shop. Too bad. So sad.
If you want to point out where I'm wrong and how, feel free. If you want compassion got pick up some boxed wine and call your mommy.
Meh. I don't feel sorry for people that are too stupid/selfish/lazy to organize.
I don't have a degree, but I made $1700 USD working 34 hours last week because I work under a collective bargaining agreement.
I fucking hate SJWs and liberals, but the Amazon hate goes deeper than that
Lets look at the facts
1) Amazon treats all of their employees like shit. They have been repeatedly reported to be even be violating labor laws. Their warehouses are about as close to a sweat shop conditions as you can get for a distribution center.
2) They have repeatedly said that all they care about is becoming the world's biggest monopoly. They want to put literally ever chain store and small business out of business. They are way worse than Walmart. Every time you buy from them, you lower your own quality of life in the future by a small amount.
3) Facebook niggers are just mad that they raised the minimum free shipping order from $35 to $49
>>1124304
>If you want to point out where I'm wrong and how, feel free.
Ah, you are one of those faux-stoics.
I already did. Treating people like shit will make them act like shit. Treat them like firewood and you will burn down your house. Are you too stupid or too lazy to even consider motivating workers with something else than the fear of punishment?
>>1124339
Monopolization/centralization is an interesting subject. Seen lots of entrepreneurs complaining about government regulations for the reason "centralized power doesn't have proper interests or knowledge". Yet a lot of them seem to ignore the overlooming threat of corporate monopolies. And in my books "free markets will fix" it just as utopian as "communism will work". Anarchy cannot be sustained by itself, and it should be ideal to aim towards a society that needs least effort to enforce while giving comparatively biggest returns in quality of life.
>>1124311
Same here, never bothered with a degree. There's no reason to feel sorry for them. It plays right into their forever victim status.
>>1124357
>Are you too stupid or too lazy to even consider motivating workers with something else than the fear of punishment?
Outside of absolutely essential employees? No, never. I'd rather save the money for reinvestment or profit.
I have very few positions available in what I do that fit the grunt work category. Of those I've been turning and burning them for over four years. That doesn't mean I'm evil or I treat them poorly but I don't treat them well either. Clock in, do your job and don't expect a raise. That's the contract. Don't like it? There's the door.
I've actually been considering staffing agencies to cover our needs in the future for those types of jobs to avoid paying for their healthcare. I'm evil, right?
>>1123745
Next day shipping would be ridiculously expensive no?
Amazon literally kills small business.
>>1124389
>evil
Depends on the view. Are parasites evil?
>>1124339
>minimum free shipping order
I've never seen this
Amazon is providing a legitimately revolutionary service, they're movie towards free next day shipping
That is a free market miracle
Those factory workers should quit, it's not like it's hard to find a minimum wage job and we have laws
>>1124419
They're compensated based on what they bring to the table. Period. Black, white, purple, male or female it doesn't matter. Altruism and capitalism are like oil and water. That is what people like you will never, ever understand.
>>1124294
>I do work hard to gain marketable skills
good then you wont be a packing boxes for a living in a warehouse all day
not being sympathetic to the plight of those who make poor life decisions doesnt make someone bitter desu senpai
>>1123800
So amazon doesnt make a profit
>>1124178
Best post in the thread desu senpai
>>1123715
Sounds good to me.
I've dealt with minimum wage workers in the past. They're lazy as shit and always say "I get minimum wage so I give minimum effort," and stretch out their 10 minute breaks to a fucking hour and then drag their feet when they work.
If that's the kind of mindset people who pack books and fleshlights into boxes have, then they ought to be timed for using the water fountain.
>>1124238
>Warehousing in general sucks.
And this is it. There is something profoundly fucked about this industry; it seems to magically attract the worst people you will meet in life. Huge working hours, sometimes not a single break during the day, the demand to be constantly moving even when there's fuck nothing to do, shitty coworkers, even shittier higher-ups etc. Really horrible. It's what motivated me to bust my ass and get my ee degree. There is a big difference in muh millennials can't handle work and abysmal working conditions. Warehousing was my first job and I have never had trouble after that. Neither in the army, nor in banking, nor even fucking sales came close to this shitfest.
>>1124455
Whose table? Why do you consider capitalism to be some sort immovable universal standard? We could always redesign capitalism so that it can work with altruism. We did break eventually from monarchism and what other tribalist nonsense. Maybe we will break capitalism as well. Do you think that people should work to live, or live to work?
You might have some form of autism. You cling so aggressively to the old form without a hint of adaptibility or vision.
>>1123675
shitty jobs make the world go round
do you see paramedics crying every time they let someone die?
do you see soldiers crying because they have to go days without sleep under extreme stress?
do you see your pizza delivery guy crying about working 70+ hour weeks for some foreign piece of shit boss just to make a living?
no, no, and no.
>>1123715
If their employees didn't take long breaks, stand around talking instead of working, and did the job PROPERLY, they wouldn't have to be treated like children.
If they really treat their employees like that, then they'll have to change or run out of people willing to work for them.
At least their new system for delivering fresh food is going to fall apart; they picked the wrong partner because all the decent stores are doing it in-house.
>>1125482
I worked at UPS as a second night Job after college
It was over 100 degrees in that warehouse at night
Everyone should work a warehouse job for at least two weeks.
It will teach you what "hard work" actually is and why you should do everything in your power to avoid it
>>1124357
>least efforts to enforce while offering the largest returns to quality of life
It's not the govts. responsibility to provide a good quality of life. It provides the opportunity for a good quality of life. Government is just supposed to enforce rules and regulations at least originally I think the US did these things.
