>get an email from my boss asking me "IF" I am "willing to do" some overtime over my entire christmas break. Ends email already assuming I have agreed to it with implied guilt trip if I don't.
wat do /biz/?
Don't do it. Extra hours at Walmart won't help you long term
Hello boss,
Pass.
I appreciate the oppurtunity, thank you,
A. E. Moose
>>1008470
Act as if you did not receive the email.
>>1008476
what if I get fired over this? Can I be fired if I ignore my emails?
>tfw I'm just a low level subordinate
>>1008470
Simply say no. Say you're booked all Christmas season and can't make time for overtime work.
Will you both save shitty overwork as well make you look like a busy person who has valuable time that you can't just take whenever you want.
>>1008476
Worst way at going at it. Bosses aren't retards. They know when their workers are just lazy. The probability of not receiving an e-mail when from all others over the years you do is extremely slim. And even if it were true, the boss would still call bullshit on you
"Hey _______,
I'm sorry but I'm unavailable to work on the days you requested as I've already booked plans with my loved ones.
Happy holidays to you and yours.
Sincerely, Anon."
>>1008489
This is a good one.
Judging by the fact that OP said he's a low level subordinate, he's probably just unimportant enough to get away with it.
>>1008489
This.
Do it, OP.
"Hey _______,
I'm unavailable to work on the days you requested as I've already booked plans with my loved ones.
Happy holidays to you and yours.
Sincerely, Anon."
>>1008482
bump
>original comment this is
>>1008516
Or a proactive lie, possibly.
No one wants to work the holidays, you have to at least offer a fake excuse.
>>1008507
You already got the best way to go at it and you're still considering ignoring the e-mail?
No you likely wont be fire from it. Your boss might not even mention it at all, depending on wether you see him everyday or not. He'll just put you on his list of lazy workers or leave a note in your file and when the company needs to cut back on jobs you're further on top of the list.
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>>1008518
>forever poor
It's not playtime anymore, children. You're adults now. Sometime's you have to do things you don't want to do, and that includes working on your birthday, on weekends, and on holidays. Grow the fuck up.
>>1008470
You haven't been "asked" if you want to work; you've been told to be there, but in a passive-aggressive fashion that makes the boss feel like less of a wanker.
Regardless, the business obviously needs you, so you do your part. Unless you're the kind of person who wants to bounce from job to job their whole life living paycheck to paycheck.
>>1008545
Commended for sucking more corporate dick than the average escort.
>>1008545
So I expect you'll be working this holiday season too?
>>1008545
>He thinks being a suckup that himself be exploited and cofusing it for "hard and honest work" makes you successful
Working hard on that promotion, eh? I'm sure in 10 years you'll maybe be considered as a possible candidate. And if someone who seems more competent, self confident and more sympatheticthan you gets it instead despite being in the company for a shorter amount of time and not nearly have ever worked as hard as you did, just please don't kill yourself :)
>>1008545
>"And one day, in his dying bed, anon realized that family, friends and love were more important than all the dick he sucked his entire life."
Grow up, anon.
>>1008545
>Forever employee
>womb to the tomb
Send him back a dick pic with a ;)
He'll understand
>>1008563
I wish I had enough money to stop working entirely.
I'll settle for putting enough money into investments to bolster my income, though.
>>1008563
Rich dad poor dad stuff.
Can someone actually just summarize his boo know you need to invest but like where and how? Like low risk index funds?
![RIP[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/GSYMtSX.png "RIP[1].png")
>>1008545
Here lies anon.
List of life accomplishments:
* He worked holiday hours.
That is all.
>>1008592
At least he gets to go to Val Halla because he got killed on Black Friday.
>>1008590
Without derailing the thread? I'll try:
* Acquire assets that make you money. (business ownership, investments, etc)
* Resist the urge to buy things that make cash flow OUT of your pocket (debt, mortgages)
* Keep acquiring these assets until you achieve positive cash flow, even without your salary income.
* Retire young.
You can always start another thread and get more detailed info. The book is good too.
>>1008489
Nice, send the guilt right back at him.
here's how it works:
you aren't going to wish you had those work hours back on your deathbed
you ARE going to wish you had those holidays back
>>1008470
Do you get paid for it?
That's amazing that you actually get a break. Usually it's just christmas day.
>>1008470
Depends what job it is.
If it's Walmart, I'll just pass on that.
>>1008545
You sir, have no clue
>>1008551
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>>1008563
Only NEETs think that going above and beyond means you're a corporate sellout. Why? Because NEETs have never been a part of building or growing a business, have never been committed to its success, and have never put something above themselves.
As a consequence, you NEETs will never know success, in any fashion.
Not to mention, that for most of you, "spending holiday time with the family" means "sitting on Mom's basement couch playing xbox waiting for someone to bring me a plate of cookies." Working on the holidays doesn't mean you have miss all your family events. It just means you can't sit around like a fat lump of shit for 4 days straight.
And this is why you'll be wealthy, never have a comfortable life, and never make your parents proud: you tubby fucks only think of yourselves.
That's not what Jesus taught.
>>1008660
And so speaks the eternal middle class man
>>1008660
>Calling us NEETs
Married full time engineer with overtime while getting an MBA simultaneously and getting /fit/ cutting and bulking in cycles - workhorse checking in.
>>1008470
I went back to my old job for xmas. Its an easy way to make £800 pounds. Just accept for the minute you are a 'cog' and keep that money for future investments.
How else are you going to spend that month?
Might as well make some money out of it
>>1008474
THis.
This board needs to grow larger balls.
>>1008674
whats the point of even typing something like that out? i mean, anyone can claim to be anything on here so whats the point of doing it. im not saying you're lying(maybe a 50/50 chance), but a post like that is unlikely to change anyones perception either way.
as for OP, if you don't want to work extra then say that to your boss. it's not a big deal. he might even start respecting you if you show you can speak your mind without losing your shit.
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>>1008783
I was saying I'm not a NEET. Take it or leave it. Makes no difference to me, anon.
Love, anon.
>>1008470
Psht, don't even reply; in reality, you're far too busy with the holidays to even bother checking your email. Your kike boss will just have some of the jews or indians do whatever stupid task he's trying to rope you into.
>>1008545
>It's not playtime anymore, children. You're adults now. Sometime's you have to do things you don't want to do, and that includes working on your birthday, on weekends, and on holidays. Grow the fuck up.
what a c uck
>>1008674
>and getting /fit/ cutting and bulking in cycles - workhorse checking in.
Grows some balls. Your boss is using you because he sees you as weak and expendable. Tell him to fuck off, nicely. He'll find some other poor smuck to do the bitch work.
>>1008660
There's going above and beyond when trying to close a multimillion dollar deal on Christmas Eve and then there's working an 8 hour shift at McDonald's
>>1008545
I can see your manager walking over you for the whole year and then spitting in your face at early review.
The worst part is you did it to yourself.
>>1008545
>Ignore everything for your job
You can always find a new job. You can't get more time with people you didn't spend enough time with.
With your attitude, I predict sudoku by age 45-50.
>>1008803
>frog poster
>not a NEET
choose one, and only one
>>1008876
Kek, listen to the big man on the internet. Forever poor.
Being asked to work on the holidays when there's a legitimate need doesn't make you weak. It makes you valuable. Valuable people get paid more money.
Fuck, you kids are stupid.
>>1008899
>You can always find a new job.
And yet you Millennials keep claiming there are no jobs.
You fags wonder why everyone who matters in the world HATES Millennials: this thread shows exactly why. Wasted generation. Jesus, this is really sad.
>>1008909
The funny part is you insult someone for being a 'big man on the internet', and then act like a big man on the internet.
>>1008912
He's stupid kid who is pretending to be an adult working in the corporate world. Managers don't care if you turn them down. They'll just get another bozos for the task. Getting promoted is closing big dollar deals, not working hard. Working hard is for those who aren't smart, nor creative. Which is about 90% of people you'll meet.
>>1008917
>Working hard is for those who aren't smart, nor creative.
Millennials, ladies and gentlemen. The worst generation in a hundred years.
Hopefully your kids won't be such losers.
>>1008948
Baby Boomers, ladies and gentlemen. The worst generation in history.
Hopefully you die a painful death and your kids don't go to your funeral.
>>1008958
Why would you assume I'm a boomer? That's just really illogical and frankly a bit stupid.
Or are you so retarded you don't know there's a whole other generation between millennials and boomers?
>>1008507
Are you an adult? Why are you talking like yoda?
>>1008971
Gen Xers, GI(you have to be 80+), and Gen Z(below age of 12).
>>1008987
Now I know you're just trolling. I was actually getting a bit worried that I'd found someone off their meds or something. Funny stuff.
I always think these exchanges are a symptom of a greater issue: overvalued assets and loss of buying power--essentially neo-feudalism. Young people don't want to work harder for their employers because they've already been priced out of so much; why work significantly harder in the hopes of moving up when it's just as likely your employer will fire you anyway or you won't be able to buy a house anyway, etc. As assets get higher priced, the return on my harder work becomes less and less. I need to see a proportional increase in buying power. As a Canadian, housing is already well out of reach and barring a correction it will remain that way even if I made closer to 30$/hr. It would be careless for me to buy an average house unless I was taking home like $4k a month at least. Someone else can run the numbers here, all I know is I make around 25$/hr ish and I have maybe $500 extra at the end of the month, about 15% of my income. Because 35% goes to housing right off the top.
So when people keep overleveraging and our economy moves closer to a third-world style economy why would I bet on the future and work harder? Faith has been lost in employers and it's their job to offer an olive branch at this point in history.
ITT manager trying to see his bamily on holiday trying to foist responsibility down the ladder.
Wait till hes desperate ask for triple overtime in writing and cash upfront.
Why don't you just get a job that takes holidays off for all employees?
There. I just solved a thread in less than a minute that you chucklefucks have taken 100+ posts to argue over.
>>1009119
overtime?
sir, this company offers its employees the PRIVILEGE of a salaried position
don't sully its good name with these hourly notions. this isn't a factory or a burger joint. this is a FAMILY. and sometimes family members have one another work 20 or more extra hours with no additional compensation.
>>1008909
Sure thing buddy. I have two side businesses of my own AND work as a senior software developer for an SP500. My time is valuable so if anybody wants its, they'll have to pay for it. When I was leaving my last job my old manager told me I'll be needed to help with the transition occasionally. I said sure, but you have to pay me upfront at $200/hour (in contrast I was making $35/h there), interact etrasnfer it to my email. You should have seen the fucker's face. This happened at my going away lunch with the whole team present, most of them being cucks like you. Im two months when shit really hit the fan I got another email and a cheque for several grand. Took about four - eight hours of work to fix up the crap, and I never heard from him again. Good riddance.
Moral of the story is - don't be a worthless little bitch. Your time, your life IS valuable.
>>1009260
Alright I realize I was harsh. Not everyone is in a position to walk away from a job whenever you want. This is the position you need to strive for.
The most important things are skills and connections. Essentially, you need to be capable of making a job for yourself at any point in time. You need a large financial cushion. If youre tied down with a bunch of kids, a stay at home wife and a 2,000sqft more of a house than you need this will be difficult. If you don't have this already - keep playing stupid until you do. Then startover at another place, but now make sure they play by your rules.
>>1008948
We found the topfaggot
things to ask yourself:
>are you doing anything worthwhile over break otherwise?
>do you need the money, or would you appreciate the time off?
>were you promised this time off/ is there an expectation for you to work on holidays?
>is this the type of job where making a good impression on your boss matters to your longterm goals?
don't waste your christmas away on some bullshit job. but your christmas does have a price tag and if you figure out your expected income from working those days, it just might be worth your time.
>>1009260
>>1009270
Shut up fag. OP never said he was asked to volunteer his time. Fuck you're retarded.
>>1009274
>Why would you assume >>1008917 is a millennial?
99% of /biz/ whining self-entitled millennial bitches. I was playing the odds.
>>1009283
People who think its cool to "stick it to the man" never get to be the man. I'd rather be the man. The pay and benefits are much better.
Stop. being. stupid.
>>1008470
Can you post the email text, OP?
>>1009300
Fuck off iHaz. We all know it's you faggot.
>>1008660
"you only think of yourselves" hahahahaahahahhohohohohhohohoh who do you think his boss is thinking about when he crafted that bitch ass e-mail? mother teresa? starving children in Africa? about OP lel?
>>1008545
>wage¢uck/10
>>1009316
>memelord/10
>forever poor
>>1009320
Well, I don't think many rich or successful people got to where they are by eating shit and doing what they were told all the time like you do Anon. I'm actually pretty sure that a lot of them got to where they are by putting their foot down and having a backbone.
>>1009321
I'm pretty sure you don't have a FUCKING CLUE what anyone successful did to accomplish their goals and achieve their wealth. I'm absolutely positive you'll never be in that situation yourself. You'll never be a part of building something bigger than one person, making it prosper, and providing riches to everyone who contributed to the endeavor.
You're just a sad, little frog poster who watches too many movies about people better than yourself. Having a backbone isn't the same as being a selfish pathetic loner. Until you learn that, the highest you'll ever climb is Mommy's couch.
>>1009328
You sound like a complete faggot, "Let's build something together senpai!". Quit being a little bitch who's dependant on people.
>>1009328
>You'll never be a part of building something bigger than one person
Spare us the platitudes faggot. OP obviously doesn't have shares in the company and the only "riches" he would get out of working during Christmas would be his overtime. Which just might be not worth it, as he prefers to spend that time with family.
>>1009300
>99% of /biz/ whining self-entitled millennial bitches. I was playing the odds.
That's just really illogical and frankly a bit stupid.
Get off the internet, you old fart. You argue on the internet the way Trump runs for president.
If its paid overtime do it. If not fuck that, Dont work for free like this goy>>1008660
>>1009321
This guy gets it. This is a shit test OP. If you rollover on your back and piss yourself you can be sure there will be plenty more overtime where that came from.
>>1008470
Either
>Sorry boss, already have commitments, please keep me in mind for overtime in the future though as I'm keen to help out whenever I'm able
Or
>Oh hey boss, sorry I didn't get your email, hope you had a good Christmas and New year tee hee
>>1009377
He's the guy who posts that same shitty thread every other day. Just hide/report his posts and move on.
are you single?
do you live alone?
is your job at least middle management?
>then yes
do you plan on staying with the company in hopes of moving up?
>then yes
could you be doing something else for the holidays?
>then no
do you have family?
>then no
are you an important person in the company?
>then delegate or convince a comrade to stay with you over the break to lighten the work load
basically if you a bitch doing bitch work then just do it
unless you just a bitch at work.
caveat you want to be more than a bitch.
>delegate or do it.
>>1008827
I fail to see what's so funny. As soon as I hit a 365 lb squat PR, I'm going to start cutting to keep my body fat in check.
What's your routine?
>>1009442
>>Sorry boss, already have commitments, please keep me in mind for overtime in the future though as I'm keen to help out whenever I'm able
>Or
>>Oh hey boss, sorry I didn't get your email, hope you had a good Christmas and New year tee hee
No problem anon. Take all the time you need and enjoy the holiday. In fact, don't even bother coming back into work next week either. Or any time after that. Enjoy your time off.
/mic drop
>>1008660
>That's not what Jesus taught.
Was that in Matthew or Luke?
>>1008545
>literally being a slave
for fuck's sake its almost 2016!
>>1009300
Holy shit, how mad are you? I run a successful amazon store that got me ~2k/month for the last three months and I got a specialty web app with ~50 customers paying me $40/month for obstruction. And I have a career.
If you don't value your time, then no wonder youre a worthless cuckold.
>>1009570
>fired for declining overtime
Meanwhile, in Afghanistan
>>1008489
/thread. Blunt but respectful.
>>1008827
-basement dwelling dyel
>>1008905
That's the ORIGINAL frog. If anything this man has ascended to the top and "made it". Only upstanding, successful citizens are permitted to post the origin comic of Pepe the frog.
>>1008660
Why the fuck would you care about a business you have no stake in besides a (presumably meager) paycheck?
Str8 cucked
