Hi /biz/, straight men only please.
What are your thoughts on women? Are they a mere distraction that deviates businessmen from success? Or are they an asset that encourages and supports businessmen on the path to fulfill their /biz/ ambitions?
>women
>assets
Pick one
You need to be dumb to think that they are a distraction, if she has some kind of amazing degree and she has more years in college than most of the employees she is a must have, cmon.. I see them as possible partners when im in my free time not at work.
>>1007125
You become successful, you date a sponsored high maintenence good looking girl, that wants you for your competence (money), she makes you a good looking kid, preferably a son to prolong the name. You've done everything necessary as a man, enjoy your life.
>If you still believe in romantic love and other astrological bullshit, go to /lit.
It depends on a few different factors. Do you value having children and the traditional 1950s family? Do you get involved with some bimbo gold-digger whose only contribution to the household is her body, a housewife who cooks/cleans and takes care of the kids, or a working woman who actually contributes financially as well?
>>1007125
>you date a sponsored high maintenence good looking girl, that wants you for your competence (money)
Worst advice ITT
my girl works and contributes to the house in a multitude of ways. I don't consider her a distraction in any way, and the time we spend together is mututally free time. I love having a woman in my life and the happiness she brings me is something possessions and toys cannot.
>>1007125
>What are your thoughts on women? Are they a mere distraction that deviates businessmen from success?
Women are a necessary evil. Yeah they have their downsides(and oh boy do they have them) but it's as necessary as flossing your teeth or taking a shower.
No one who thinks women are useless/gold diggers/dumb whores will ever succeed in business because they clearly haven't adjusted to understand how the world works, and they obviously have no social skills either
>>1007190
only realistic one, if you want to keep your mind on the game. if you want to be a family man, get yourself a maid to fuck and marry her.
>>1007125
Plenty of women who are willing to work hard, either around the house or in a careeer. Problem is they aren't American.
So yeah if you pick up some blonde, leggy college girl then she has already spent all of your income and will work at a not for profit because it is SO FULFILLING. But asian and hispanic immigrants are a solid bet.
Of what use is all your money if you can't experience some fundamentally positive emotions like love for the fear of losing it ?
The 4chan demographic will always be skewed towards angsty virgins, so not really a place for getting such advice
>>1007420
>mfw
>browse 4chan asking for finical advice
>business success
Yeah alright, show us your fucking bank account than faggot.
Anyway OP, if you ever start to make six or seven figures and you want to keep it that way then you DO NOT want to get married and or have kids. That will ruin you. Women are okay for a company, but only some positions like HR for example. Anything that allows them to show their true bitchiness and gives them some power, but not enough to do any damage.
>>1007463
Loving a woman who only loves your income is not fundamentally positive, it's life destroying. US and Europe legal and social systems are stacked against men so it's crucial to find a good woman who won't turn their advantages against you to ruin you for profit.
>>1007464
Get rejected a lot, bro? I know those feels.
>>1007465
>Loving a woman who only loves your income is not fundamentally positive, it's life destroying.
Try getting a woman without having an income.
I dated a chubby nerdy girl in college and kept the relationship going for a couple years afterwards. I thought that because I was dating someone for their personality instead of their looks then I was all set, but nope. Over the years she became more and more sour and leeching. Turns out they have the same exact problems.
>Doesn't pay her half of the rent, groceries, or utilities
>Demands I do half the chores because feminism
>Wants kids and a big house but won't pay for them
>Refuses my help in finding her a decent career because she's waiting for a teaching position to open and she won't deviate her career path, so apparently minimum wage work is better.
>Talks shit about me to all her ugly or trans friends she made at her minimum wage job
>Gets mad if I have any female friends.
>Refused to exercise with me.
I thought the two of us jogging/kayaking together would be cute and fun, she thought I was being a prick for wanting her to "change". She gained 50lbs over 4 years, how's that for a change? Finally broke it off and I've been happier ever since.
tl;dr, OP, don't judge a book by its cover, in the bad way. Looks aren't the only thing that can get worse over time, personalities can turn to shit too.
No, in some cases it may boost your work ethic. You're not just providing for yourself anymore, you have a wife/gf and possibly kids to think about too.
For me personally it's always been a constant battle between living alone and providing for myself vs getting married and possibly losing half my assets.
They can be both. I had the latter until November 2nd and then I got shitted on by her, won't even talk to me because she thinks i still like her. Ah well, gotta move on.
>>1007125
>he isnt gay master race
You will never make it.
>not having a dedicated bf who is willing to live frugaly with you as you both complete your college degrees with no debt and is willing to spend free time on flipping houses.
Why would you ever choose a female partner?
BF
>stronger
>smarter
>more logical
>doesnt mind using the off brand products
>higher payed
>doesnt expect you to pay for everything
Women
>vagina
Is the pussy really worth it?
>>1007526
>Is the pussy really worth it?
a good pussy is worth everything. something fags will never understand.
>>1007125
so finance?
>>1007527
I total agree! kkkkkkkk
>>1007526
Why bother with the hassle of a boyfriend? If I wanted to get fucked in the ass all day I'd pay taxes in a Socialist country.
>>1007392
Just wait...
I don't regret ending my last LTR (three years, two living together) but dating is a big distraction. Not just the time and money, but the preoccupation with chasing and keeping pussy. I check Tinder too often and feel a lot of ennui that makes it hard to keep up with my personal ambitions.
Sharing expenses was nice, but she became needy, didn't contribute maturely to the household, and put out less and less every month. Had no rational thinking about the future, just whined about getting married.
For a while it was great, I felt like I had a lot of freedom and flexibility, and saved a ton of money on housing and expenses. She was sort of my partner in crime. But I just can't deal with crybullying and retarded emotional thinking, which makes me feel like a committed relationship with a woman is just not for me.
>>1007125
An assistant. They require time + effort.
In return you get time + effort.
>>1007125
You should do your best to find a woman who has a skill, hobby, or trade.
If a woman wants to just 'keep the house', they're not good enough to join your team.
I mean, shit, if your ass gets expensively crippled, you need someone to keep making money, even if you have to downgrade your house/standard of living.
>>1007534
>Not enjoying the love and support of a man who you also enjoy hot man sex with
Embarrassing desu.
Obviously your gf/wife will want you to be financially successful, but she will also be trying to drain that success as much as possible, and limit it when you might come to the crazy conclusion that you have better options than her.
Never get married.
>>1007626
Honestly I can't imagine a woman who would support a man in trouble like that, unless we're talking about some small religious town where she'd become a pariah for leaving him in the lurch (or unless we're talking about illness of the elderly, where you both have one foot in the grave regardless).
If you didn't at least have disability payments or a big nest egg, I wouldn't count on a woman staying. That would require honor and a recognition of the effort and time invested in the relationship.
>>1007665
Women are capable of irrational decisions, too, yes?
I still don't want a woman who isn't useful if her ovaries don't function.
>>1007464
>If you're successful, don't pass your genes on
What are you even making all that money for, so you can grow old and bitter in your shitty yacht while drinking expensive champagne and forcing that dried out leathery face of yours to attempt to immitate what you think is the image of a "smile" at your incredible success? Kids are the point of life. If you don't have kids, you are, objectively, a failure. You have failed the game that you were created to win. Your existance was pointless.
>>Women are okay for a company, but only some positions like HR for example. Anything that allows them to show their true bitchiness and gives them some power, but not enough to do any damage.
>Women are good in HR
>Some power
>But not enough to do any damage
>=!
>The power to decide who makes up the entire company
>>not enough to do any damage
Fuck off. You're either underage, retarded, or both.
>>1007496
>chubby girl
>chubby
I had a fattie for a girlfriend as well. She was very bottom heavy though, so it was pretty much a fetish come alive. Long story short, after I had helped her with a lot of stuff, she left me because she became impatient that I hadn't gotten a place yet. I had put a lot of effort into us, we had worked well every time we met, and she just went "eh, fuck it" one day. To be fair, it was a long-distance relationship, so what did I expect.
The point here was that women are women. Even the ones you identify as extra compatible, calm, resonable and clear-headed, will and can snap one day for no reason. I've heard this from multiple guys. Sometimes, girls just up and leave after five-six years. A dog is more loyal (or rather: you need to train your girlfriend like a dog, if you want her to stay).
>>1007526
I'm pretty hyped about not having been born defective, actually. The thing is, you can't make it. Unless you go against your defect and have kids, your entire life will have been meaningless. There's no biological reason for you to even live.
>>1007672
>people actually believe that having kids is the only point to life
Why not just suicide by cop at 18 so they can get your life insurance, then?
>>1007678
I wish my dad had.
>money to work with when you come of age
>the myth of a great father you could aspire to live up to, instead of the reality of a bitter old man who blames you for his bad life decisions
Women are depreciating assets
Marriage is a poor business decision
Its cheaper to rent
I definitely list them under my liabilities.
>>1007392
Remember to fuck her well, Anon. Also, remember: she's your lover, not your mother. Don't let her adopt the wrong role too much, or too often.
>>1007610
>put out
Just take it, you're the man in the relationship, and her life.
>crybullying
Nicely phrased.
A committed relationship is the way to go, unless you're totally emotionally dead or REALLY addicted to charming new women all the time. However, you need to find the right one, and that seems very difficult these days. However, the big positive here is that you're a man. When you get older, guess what, you can still find a woman the age of your last one, or younger.
>>1007665
>I wouldn't count on a woman staying.
>That would require honor and a recognition of the effort and time invested in the relationship.
Yep.
>>1007678
It's the objective point of life, yes. It's why we exist, as lifeforms, in the first place. We're literally just elaborate ways of continuing life (genes and so on).
You're misunderstanding the point (or intentionally misrepresenting it). Your life doesn't lose meaning to yourself just because you don't have kids, but it loses objective meaning. It kills your family right then and there, and everyone alive before you might as well not have been because you just ended all of their efforts by not having offspring. You can still enjoy life, but it'll ultimately amount to nothing. Having kids is the only way anyone could justify their existance - even if you were to become some multi-billionaire, it doesn't matter in the big picture. You will be dead, and with time, so will any memory or trace of you as well.
If you have kids, some part of you will live on as a physical testament to your existance. Besides, if you're white, it's your duty.
>>1007693
>Just take it
That's what one of her exes did. Fucked her up bad. If I touched her the wrong way, she'd break down crying for a couple hours and I would stay up until 3am trying to drink away the horror.
I've got two chicks right now who adore getting slammed against a wall and fucked, but neither would be a good partner for me. One is a slut and the other will be cute and thick for a few years and then bloat up like a blimp because she doesn't give a fuck about taking care of herself.
>>1007693
Only reason I have to do it is because I'm an only child. Otherwise I'd leave it to someone else, because I'm not rich. I cannot guarantee that a child of mine would learn anything but how to work hard, and maybe how to work smart too.
Of course, I want to breed with Asians, so I'm probably working against your plan.
>>1007697
Well, I didn't mean rape her exactly. But I meant that you might have to take charge a bit. If she doesn't want to even have sex semi-enthusiastically with you every now and then, but you need it, then obviously you need to talk to her about it. I can see how it would be difficult with someone who had previous (justified) hangups, though.
>>1007700
>Only child
Well yeah, if you have siblings that have a lot of kids you can maybe justify not having any. Ideally, you'd still have two though (bare minimum).
Asians are fine, mostly. As long as they're north-east asians (Chinese, Korean, Japanese). I'd like one too, but I doubt I can find a non-insane one in this country.
>>1007125
Women are a magnificent way to flush your money down the toilet - even better than a sailboat in that regard.
They will spend every fucking cent they can get their fingers on, and will spend it on the dumbest fucking shit imaginable - like uncomfortable Downton Abbey couches or two dozen throw pillows for a bed, that you have to remove every night and replace every morning.
However, if you do get off on being financially dominated and spending your free time shopping for candles or watching TV shows about singing, then, yes, I can recommend women.
>>1007710
I don't have any problem taking a woman without hurting her. I'm not even that into it, but most women like the theater of being "taken" and losing control. Honestly my best memories with a gf was a few years ago when I was dating another freelancer, and we'd go drinking on a tuesday afternoon or sleep until noon and then spend the day in our bathrobes drinking coffee and catching up on invoices.
>>1007713
See, this is one thing I never had a problem with. While I was living with my ex, I kept a rough tally of what I was gaining by sharing expenses with her, and even if she wanted to spend big on an item, we just split it. Basically I always kept us "in the black", even when indulging her need for bath coordinates or whatever.
>>1007125
They're human being with 2 x sex chromosomes you robot
All the rest of that shit in your head
Wear a condom if you're so afraid of vaginas
>>1007526
faggot
>>1007710
>Asians
>fine
Yeah, if you want your kid to be some mixed race, confused-as-fuck monstrosity. Everyone should stay within their own race. Asians with asians (especially of the same ethnicity), whites with whites, etc.
>>1007738
Clearly there are *at least* some cultural differences, rooted in how boys and girls are treated in childhood.
My sister cries:
>anon, what did you do to her?
>everything will be ok sweetheart!
I cry:
>would you shut up?
>stop being a baby.
>>1007752
Crying is a baby thing but people expect women to be babies
This is not something you should be striving for
they're entitled cunts who will take everything you've got and complain when you've been milked dry.
>>1007762
That's true. /biz/ is a weird board to solicit pity for not being able to cry like a girl (anon's sister in particular).
>>1007762
I realize that. But it carries over into adulthood, and makes it very hard to find a woman who can make pragmatic decisions and temper her whims.
Even when I'm with a smart, professional woman, there are times when I have to just shrug and put up with her being an overgrown child because she got a parking ticket and it's SOOOO UNFAIR.
>>1007766
>pity
I'm citing how the expectations are different. As soon as a boy can walk, most families expect him to harden. Women are babied well into their 20's. I wonder why so many women act like babies?
>>1007749
I agree on technicality, but the dick wants what the dick wants.
>>1007775
u mad bro?
>>1007778
A little, yeah. My grandmother had to suffer through famine and war, five births, and feeding five kids while her husband was in a nuthouse, then died in a deep depression because she "didn't want to be a bother".
Now I date women who feel "oppressed" because someone at work told them to do something without begging pretty please with sugar on top.
>>1007777
>thinking only in the short term of what your dick wants
>not thinking about what will occur to your progeny
You're definitely not going to make it.
>>1007125
>assets
if they were an asset theyd be a HEAVILY depreciating asset, like a sack of potatoes, at first it might be worth 50 bucks, but after 20 years your sack of smelling death is worth negative infinity dollars and is only making you sick
>>1007816
Have you ever met a happy older couple? I mean really happy, not just resigned to make the best of things until death.
I have. It's utterly humbling.
>>1007831
ive only met ONE, out of 100's
>>1007838
I know, shit is depressing. At least there's always the 12ga retirement plan : /
>>1007778
Are you out of memes or something?
>>1007768
yes, and? sometimes it's their weird hormones, sometimes it's entitlement. it is reality and forces much more powerful than you exploit it for cash, so don't expect it to go away.
now that you know about it, you can anticipate it and not get flustered like a teenager on his first date. accept that when women are upset/cry, it:
1) is usually irrational,
2) has nothing to do with you at all, and
3) nothing you do or say will make it better unless you are legitimately at fault
and you can look forward to a happier life. there have been a few times where my wife has been upset and i've told her something like "i'll be in bed when you're finished" and gone upstairs to bed, and she shows up 10 mins later like nothing happened. just accept it is going to happen and move on.
>>1007869
I do not disagree with any of your points. Are we arguing something?
For me personally, it's hard to live with. I used to live with shrieking terror almost daily and I don't want any more of it.
>>1007869
Those are all signs of a personality disorder
>>1007965
Everything is. The more they can pathologize, the more they can charge you for medication and treatment to fix it.
Sometimes that bad feeling in the pit of your stomach is the most rational, sane feeling in the world.
>>1007125
Know how to really win at /biz/?
Be a woman. Be a smart, switched on, educated woman. No need for soft skin or getting your dick wet, just pure ambition and drive.
If women were a stock I'd invest in them because that shit's gonna skyrocket in the future, you mark my words.
>>1007710
>Chinese, Korean, Japanese
>fine
lol uwotm8? Especially Japanese and Korean women are some of the most fickle bitches that exist out there that will be all romantic and cuddly one day and leave you the next day for not liking the same vegetables as her. They have an ultra romanticized imagination of what a relationship should look like from all their retarded dramas and hollywood romcoms and if you don't fulfill it, they'll just leave you. Also they are gold diggers in general
![tumblr_inline_mmxjmz11hg1qz4rgp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7tmLgHe.jpg "tumblr_inline_mmxjmz11hg1qz4rgp[1].jpg")
>not going down to the carribean
>not having a qt island gf who is impressed by twenty dollars
>dealing with nasty entitled american girls
you never had a chance
>>1008262
What the fuck are you talking about
>>1007125
Imho, their presence is a distraction. They bring a lot more drama; not to say men don't, but women just bring a lot of issues to a professional environment.
I personally don't need the "eye candy" and above all, their stupid claims that they're being treated unfairly. Welcome to the workforce, ladies.
single moms, bar skanks, and depressed loners only.
DISCOUNT PUSSY.
childless couples make for very powerful entrepreneur teams.
It's impossible to say with any degree of intelligence whether or not a woman is toxic to a mans financial aspirations or not without having intimate knowledge of their dynamics. A woman can be a distraction, your greatest focus and wellspring of motivation or nothing it all. It's all about how you vibe together.
>>1008326
I think a woman needs to bring skills to a relationship other than 'wants to be a housewife/I don't wanna work', for the same reason a man needs to bring skills to a relationship other than 'I want to be a father/I wanna fuck you'.
>>1008334
I think so too. This will unfortunately never happen (for the majority of couples) because even the worst used up gold digger slut can always find a beta provider.
As you can see from this thread theres always gonna be tons of males who either can't control their dick or feel some irrational obligation to have children.
They will then delude themselves into thinking that putting up with a human you don't care about emotionally and getting raped financially is something you just have to "put up" with in your life.
>>1007125
money > bitches
I always hide my power level and if a woman makes herself a hassle then I don't bother no matter how tempted I am to buy her drinks or wine and dine her. A fantasy of mine is offering to fly a lady anywhere she wants, if I did this I wouldn't sweat over the finances but I know this isn't realistic, if she isn't interested in ordinary me then there is no point going further with a relationship.
Most women are spoiled and judge you for the slightest thing. I don't want to be vindictive but I'd rather they reveal this and when I inevitably give in and start spending on luxuries instead of adding it to my capital I spend it on someone worthy.
>>1007462
They will be ruined by American culture.
Honest answer here? BOTH!
Women stimulate men. The reason men work hard is to become more attractive to women. An expensive car is no different from a peacocks feather, both are "bling." But women could just the same be the ruin of men. Turn them from the top of their class to gutter rats.
>>1008351
>even the worst used up gold digger slut can always find a beta provider.
You're thinking in one dimension, women can strive for success just like a man can. Everything in life is an investment of time, money, opportunity or emotional fulfillment. There are great investments and then there are toxic ones.
>>1008400
>The reason men work hard is to become more attractive to women.
Speak for yourself. Constructing your life around pussy is the most retarded thing you can do.
Nobody here has mentioned the wife that earns more money than you.
We are both professionals with similar potential earnings (and same line of work) but when I noticed she likes her job much more than I do, I started working less hours.
In fact, now one of my worries is.. that I will have to extend my work hours a lot when she gets pregnant... until she's ready to get back to work again.
>>1008442
Why are you living on both of your incomes, period? That's crazy.
>>1008444
We still have student debt and no real estate. I'm financially not ready for retirement, even though I'd love to stop working.
>>1008442
One of my exes made more than me, and was ultra strict about planning her expenses... to the point that she didn't have any flexibility and was always short on cash and stressed about having enough money in her account to pay bills.
Went out with another girl who had a literal one million dollar trust fund, but never had cash on her. Like, not a dollar bill or a few quarters for a parking meter. And this was not some 18 year old kid, she was older than I was.
I know it's just anecdotes, but man, that shit makes my head hurt.
My fiancee (wife in three months) is finishing her law degree. For the first year she'll be making more money than me until I finish residency, then it flip flops until she becomes partner. Then it might flip flop again when I go private practice.
Plus she's, well, pretty fuckable. Just saiyin.
>>1007125
I won't mention the many ways that women are valuable in the esoteric sense, since you seem to be coming at this in a purely what does she offer/what does she take type of way.
Even in that argument a solid woman in your life is IMO very worth it. I own my own business but I am far from successful, I'm poor as shit in fact (My income is only $21,000 in our second year in a major metropolitan area, so not enough to really prosper on).
That being said, my girl has a job, helps me in rent and utilities, and does things that make my life easier (she can't cook for the life of her but that doesn't mean she can't clean).
Plus shes pretty and fun, which takes my mind off of busting ass for a few fun nights out of the week.
If you get motivation from the ability to pull hot girls with money your life will be a mess however. Its easy enough to find a girl that your into while your broke and than transition into trying to build a life together rather than dating a gold digger when your old, rich, and awkward.
>>1008536
>plus she's, we'll, pretty fuckable
We know
>>1007496
Are you me 1 year ago? My gf was same and i managed to change her. She lost now 70 pounds, trains and is on the way to become a nice bimbo. Next year she will get her tits made. Oh and she does 100 per cent housework. And loves me.
>>1008550
>>1008553
Then you're not him, as clearly your gf doesn't behave the same way.
>>1008536
Interesting how you've got everything so planned for the future (A will happen after B and at the same time as C etc). It may or may not happen exactly like that, but thinking back I wish I planned more like that when I was younger.
I've seen that girl posted here before; I wouldn't think that you're going around posting pictures of your real gf in different threads?
>>1008326
>childless couples make for very powerful entrepreneur teams
lol what besides cisco can you even name one? this is terrible advice if they get divorced the leadership is totaled and any other fights they have personally could bleed in
>>1008553
I tried to get her down the road of productive housewife or financial partner. She didn't want either, so I kicked her out.
>>1008784
Just future projections that are subject to change.
I posted one pic of her once in a thread where I was giving a hypothetical scenario to do a litmus test on /biz/. She was apparently popular enough to be reposted all over /biz/.
>>1007672
>Unless you go against your defect and have kids, your entire life will have been meaningless.
I agree with what you said, but do you realize that gaybro can just donate sperm and literally have kids without the hassle of having to deal with women?
BTFO
>>1008957
Yeah but it will be an incomplete and sub-optimal transfer of genetic and epigenetic information.
When you decide to have kids, first you choose a partner to give the other half of the genes (the best you can find). Then, the child gets raised in an environment partly determined by you, and learns things from you and the partner you chose.
A sperm bank will mean only half of the genetic information and none of the enviromental/other epigenetic variables are controlled by you. The point of reproducing is not just spawning a random human.
>>1007125
You can't fuck your money unless your a money fucker. You can't remember your money when your dead unless your some kind of immortal money fucker.
>>1009886
This is part of why I'm ambivalent about kids.
>both parents working all day
>kid is in day care
>then preschool
>then grade school school
>spends 80% of their waking hours getting molded by the government
>50% chance of getting divorced, and watching from afar as your kids are raised by someone else
>>1007125
Find a way to not being forced to give up half your shit when you divorce. What are the laws on prenups in Europe m8s? I live in Germany and I'm definitely not losing half my net worth to some whore.
I think it can work if both people have long term goals and decent jobs. Shame I don't have the network to meet these women. The group and women in it all work low paying jobs and blow their pay at the bar and on cars.
>>1010119
I have good genes, but I am iffy about it
>aside from a bad knee due to my stupidity no medial issues
>dodged the mental issues on my mom's side
>3/4 of my grandparents made it to 90 with no problems
>grandfathers were active up until a week before they died
>got the alcohol issues both of my parents have
>need to make my own wealth to pass down since my dad got his father's share in a business bought out and has been living off the cash for the last 5 years. He never wants to work again.
>>1010136
Yeah, same.
Most of the medical issues in my family are from poor choices (smoking, drinking, being too sedentary) though I'd also be constantly terrified of teaching my kids depressive habits. I'm functional most of the time, but I still fall into a funk now and again, and I know from firsthand experience that kids are deeply affected by that.
On top of my original reservations, I've started travelling a lot for work, and if things go really well, I might spend a few months of each year away. That's hardly conducive to a healthy family, or even a mutually satisfying LTR.
>>1010126
No clue about Germany, but prenuptial agreements have been nothing more than a request for the past decade. Judge's can dismiss them on personal opinion of fairness now, even if both parties had a lawyer present for the signing.
>>1010148
What the fuck? What is even the fucking point of prenups then? Fucking cuck judicial system I swear to god. What if you live together with a girl and have kids without marrying? Is she still entitled to half of your shit if you break up?
I swear to god I will turn asexual if you say yes.
>>1010248
Well she can get you for child support, and she'll try to push Common Law marriage if you live in one of those states, but you should be able to fight the Common Law marriage (not the child support though).
>>1007166
Most contribute nothing and are overly entitled
>>1007142
A woman doesn't need to be highly educated to be attractive. I used to think I wouldn't date anyone without a PhD in STEM and quickly found out there are intelligent, beautiful women without the STEM/PhD pedigree that suit me just well.
>>1007125
Just find yourself some 6/10 with good family values, family connections, and a good job.
Or you could, you know, switch to boys. Just saying, straight guys.
>>1010341
I'll concede that I've always had more fun hanging out/partying with gay guys than with women. Always.
I would love to go gay, but I'm disgusting by other dicks as much as you homos are grossed out by meat flaps.
>>1010349
You just need to find a submissive boy that you can train not to use his cock. There are solutions to these problems... but this is not the thread. Worth giving it a shot though if this shit really bothers you.
>>1010339
>good family values
>good family connections
>good job
>not ugly
>single
>interested in you
>"just find one"
>>1007527
pussy is love
pussy is life
try fucking men instead. even if your straight. give it a shot. totally worth it.
>>1007125
Too general a question. Every woman is different. And what you marry today will not be the same woman you divorce in 5, 10, (or like me, oldfag here) 20 years down the line.
Find someone who has ambitions on par with your own.
>>1010339
>Just find yourself some 6/10 with good family values, family connections, and a good job
Good luck with that. That's what I had. See above. Gotta admit though, 6/10's give great blowjobs. Which leads me to this...
>>1007690
>Its cheaper to rent
Doing the numbers, over years of declining sex, I think I paid roughly $1k per fuck/BJ.
>>1011112
>2015+10000000000
>getting married
Some people are not meant to get married. Some people are better off with open relationships, polyamory, friends with benefits, fuck buddies and casual lovers.
>>1011368
Anyone with ambition or assets would be a fool to get married. A prenup is mandatory. The courtrooms around the country are full of people saying their ex said (he/she) wants to get married because they love you and would never go after your (or your family's) hard earned assets.
In the end their spoken word is meaningless. Unless you have a legal document, they are going to screw you for everything they can.
>>1007125
Waiting on sapient gynoids to become a thing.
Not worth it in this day and age.
