>>695275158
West Germany???? What decade do you live in???? West Germany doesn't exist anymore!

Dear Huron! You from the side, of course, know better than me. I just grew up in Chechnya (Nadterechniy district, Art Shelkovskaya.), And then exported from there family and neighbors (who could), and then was "divorced chode", twice: from 1994 to 1996 and from 1999 to 2004. And that's what I can tell you. In 1991-1992 (before the first war) Tens of thousands of Russian were massacred in Chechnya. In the spring of 1992 Shelkovskaya "Chechen police" in the Russian population were seized all hunting weapons, and a week later the brigands came to the weaponless village. They called their actions "changing ownership over property". And the whole system of signs was developed for this purpose. Human guts wound on a fence, means the host is no longer in the house of only women who are ready for "love." Female bodies impaled on the same fence: the house is free, can be populated.

Therefore, dear Huron, I and those who fought beside me - the least thought about "someone's petty-interest." We were thinking about something else.

Those people were killed by people, perhaps armed with handguns, but not by handguns themselves. Handguns are harmless unless in a harmful manner. They are tools and incapable or killing anyone on their own.

> My gun killed no one yesterday.

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>>695276048
That's what the Jews want you to believe.

Owning a gun makes me feel safer and more capable of protecting my wife as I watch her getting plowed by a stranger (we're both into it).

>>695275158

Have you seen the road toll stats in all of those country's cars have killed more people than guns ever will.

>Ban assault vehicles now!

>>695275158
Nig Nogs, gonna Nig

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Post is full of bait.

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>>695275158

>>695280234
Anti gun advocates love to include suicides in gun crime statistics. If a gun was involved in somebody's death then they count it. They also include justified police shootings and justified home defense uses.

12,000 homicides out of what 280million people.
You do the math. No gun problem.

For combatting possible government tyranny, of course.

>>695275158
OP, lets say if your house gets burgled or your car gets broken into, and you have a family and a gorgeous wife and a loaded gun you can legally kill the intruders and be safe.
If the laws made guns illegal then likely your family would have been killed/raped and your car got jacked. THIS is why guns are legal and SHOULD be legal.

>>695275158
comparing a country that is the size of a state to a country that is the size of a continent is retarded and flawed logic.
>out b4 Canada
Canadians are not normal people. they're some kind of mister Rodgers hybred

>>695281285
You're not allowed to use facts, only feels.

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>>695275158
For toilet ninjas

>>695281827
Again with the facts and common sense, just stop.

>>695281285
324 million

http://www.census.gov/popclock/

>>695281948
You forgot to put a wall between your sheetrock.

>>695282143
Of which 81 million own a gun.

>>695275158
i need guns because they triggers liberals

>>695282170
Top. Fucking. Kek. My same thought

The numbers are more like 6,000 but about 3,000 are blacks so really only about 3,000. Still not good but far less than the 10,000.

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>>695282170
Shieeet

>>695283003
Why my phone do dis

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The 2nd Amendment gives us the right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.

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The minorities must be able to protect themselves from the oppressive white majority.

Gonna say right now, shit loads of guns mean shitloads of idiots killing each other which, in my opinion, is fucking great.

>>695283429

The bill of rights doesn't grant us rights, it explicitly limits the powers of government.

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>>695284023
your to funny ... it's the bill of _________.

>>695275158
> bill of needs

>>695275158
Dependence. It's all about dependence. You depend on them for everything and they have a job for life... and power... lots and lots of power.

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>>695283429
Dear god that nigger's trigger discipline should count as a fucking sin.

>>695275158
because it's my natural right you fucking cuck guaranteed by the declaration of rights

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

>>695284681
that's different it was meant for citizens not terrorists

>>695275158
Cause fuck you that's why

You don't see Americans running trucks full of grenades through crowds now so

>>695275158
If defending my god givin rights against a tyrannical govt makes me a terrorist then.........

I believe the children are the future ...

if dubs then trump is president boys

>>69528468
they'll still get shot first. mostly cause the people they want to fight know how to aim.

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>>695285410
I got you

>>695285499
Nein! Nein!

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>>695285499

If gays are a myth then how did the orlando shootings happen

trips and the nazis rise again

>>695276648
Way to tow the line.

>>695275158
48 in Japan and 8 in Britain? Their police don't even carry guns isn't this proof that gun control doesn't work? If you ban them there should be no deaths.

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Indoctrinate them while they are young. -NRA

>>695275158
Oh! This thread again! I'm sure we'll solve it this time.

>>695280813
That's some serious tin foil hat shit right there. Good for a laugh though.

>>695275158
>WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED GUNS?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3696410/Man-attacks-21-people-AXE-train-Germany-shot-police.html

>>695284986
Yes you do

>>695285921
>NRA
>Blacks
Stick to the narrative you fuck. The nra hates blacks and brown people. Also it was invented by hitler as he shot a jewish child to death.

>>695285861
compared to 10k+??
You obviously aren't a math major.

Here's something to note.

All the governments in Europe are slowly eating away more and more of the citizen's rights to all freedoms in favor of their own bizarre agendas.

You Eurofags know what's going on and you're letting it happen.

In the countries where we have guns, the government still has a reason to fear the people. Why do you think everyone still flocks to the USA when they try to escape from their shittier countries?


Anyway we're all fucked and we're all going to die because we're cooking the environment so who cares

>>695286023
who have the last two terrorists attacks been by? black guys from the military. its not crazy to think that obummer is organizing it to take down white cops and try to steal our guns

>>695275158
It's a hobby. Besides I need them because of niggers.

>>695285999
Obey the trips.

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>>695285921
I can't even tell anymore whose baiting who.

>>695286263
yes... free healthcare and college are absolutely destroying europe...
And all those muslim refugees swam across the ocean to get to the USA, completely stayed clear of wacky Europe.

I agree with you on environment. We are going to be just fine tho, fuck the future.

>>695286252
Your missing the point. Your losing a right and people are still getting shot. I would also like to point out those are both islands which would make it incredibly harder to smuggle in weapons than in America which has a border. But since we are playing touchy feely with beliefs, we both know you don't need a math major to get a degree in social justice you cuck.

>>695286345
Ha! You just one upped the last post! Well done.

Op is stupid if guns should be banned so should over sized trucks for France ...

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>>695286666
well hello there

>>695286666
wow, satan quads perfectly summed up this entire site.

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>>695286714
>free
Nothing is free

>>695285999
No shit anon. I'm not sure why but I always think something worth reading is going to be posted. I guess that makes me the dumb ass.

>>695276048
This thing called the past you may have heard of it. Probably not. They write this shit in books. If you've ever read one, again probably not.

>>695286758
You are right... when hillary passes socialized healthcare, why don't you join me on the white house lawn with our semi auto AR-15s.

>>695275158
If Trump becomes President you're going to want thag Second Ammendment right to overthrow him. So maybe just hold on to it for now.

People want more guns because other people with guns are dangerous. People want fewer guns because other people with guns are dangerous.

PROBLEM SOLVED. OH WAIT

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Well, I've always seen it as this way: if we got rid of guns completely, officers and citizens alike, then what would happen if a nutcase got some weapon from a foreign country or made it themself? How would you protect yourself, or anyone else around if you/others around you don't have a gun? I'm just saying a lot of shootings could have less fatalities if more people carried guns. But that's IMO

>>695287391
I don't care how many assault weapons you've stockpiled, the US military and law enforcement are going to kill you. Unless you're white, then you can just bitch about the lack of WiFi in the holding cell.

>>695287026
yes. please tell me more about how the invisible hand can only come from a socialized government, and not from muh free market.

>>695275158
>To hunt
>For sport
>To protect ourselves, businesses, homes, and families
>To dissuade and protect us from foreign invasions
>To dissuade and protect from Tyrannical government

Those are just some off the top of my head, i'm sure there's more.

>>695287663
We couldn't. If all the guns are gone, that one dude would take over the country.

>>695285921
you mistook NRA with NWA

>>695275158
defending yourself against a government that wants to trample on your constitutional rights and disarm you is not terrorism. it's what the second amendment was pretty much made for.

>>695275158
Do the same bait with bombs please

>>695287144

Was that an attempt at snark? You're fucking retarded.

Using stats from over 30 years ago is asinine.

>>695284666
bill of rights satan

>>695275158
America is a big place. If you want to survive the cops can't always save you. You have to be able to defend yourself sometimes, whether it's from wild animals or criminals.
If you can't deal with that, then don't live here you fucking pussy.

>>695287663
Or we could foster a completely equal society that rewards work, and not massive capital access.
Maybe then... people wouldnt want to kill each other and take their shit?
If you are talking about psychopaths, then there is really nothing we can do. They will always find a way. Ex: truck through crowd.

>>695281948
don't want to be caught with your pants down.

>>695285187
Implying God gave you anything but a mullet and a desire to fuck your sister.

If you think the government isn't already tyrannical

>>695287963
THIS

>>695287717
>I don't care how many assault weapons you've stockpiled, the US military and law enforcement are going to kill you

Like they beat the Viet Cong, pacified Iraq, civilized Afghanistan, and turned the Islamic State into peaceful cosplaying furries.

The Second Amendment is intended to embed the ability to revolt if ever needed. 100K year/dead would be a cheap price, and since niggers don't count as humans and suicide solves real problems, that actual negative effect of weapons in the US is exaggerated.

BTW NONE of the other countries has a comparable population size. Learn statistics or an hero.

>>695275158
No the government is the terrorist. Look it up in the dictionary. Way over due for an overthrow. If they take our guns then we can't protect ourselves from them.
>2016 nobody know the dark truth about Murica

>>695284666
>>695286666
satan and his fucking mother dear god

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>>695287825

>Fuck you, that's why

There's another one

>>695287375
>>695287737
Take an economics class. The government cannot afford to do this. But people want to get reelected so they give away free shit. You fuckers who want government cheese are ruining everything. At the end of the day you'll still be out of work and taking a fourth of my pay check so I guess you still have the last laugh.

>>695288144
Yea but in today's day and age of society, it's highly unlikely that we're gonna just adopt that system. And yea psychopaths I agree. We'd need to ban every type of item that could be used as a weapon, and have a safe space for every child born. (Basically Tumblr).

>>695284681
I have ZERO problem with armed BP members if they do not break the law.

I'm white and hate niggers, but I don't hate freedom and that means rights apply to all of us.

>>695287717
Seems like the us military is killing the law enforcement lately. The is military are the ones to protect its citizens from its enemy. Foreign or DOMESTIC! And that what's been going on lately. There are no innocent cops in America. Sorry

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What is the difference between terrorism and fighting for your rights and freedom?

>>695275158
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You already know this though, but this is some low tier bait

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>>695288479
Oh yes how could I have forgotten that one.

>>695285861
Japan and Britain are societies where individual rights don't matter and they gave them up long ago.

>>695287717
Yea the goverment has more firepower but so did the cucks over in brittan look what the fuck happend then.

>>695288189
>>695287963
Look at how well that worked out for Turkey. And most of those boys were from the military, using military grade weapons.
STILL LOST
and will probably die for it.

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>>695287717

>He actually believes there wouldn't be mass defections from the military after an unconstitutional confiscation order was given
>He doesn't really understand how many guns there are in this country
>He doesn't know history

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>>695287717
Fuck off loyalistfag.

This post is so true STOP GIVING POLICE GUNS! so they stop killing 10k of us a year

>>695288804
This thread is geared for Americans and generally makes fun of them for having the right to own guns in their construction.

>>695275158
no. no they didn't.

>>695288644
We should have kept the military segregated. We should have kept the US segregated then forcibly deported all niggers to Liberia which WHITES set up for them.

African-Americans won't go back to Shitskinland because the African GigaNiggas would laugh at then eat them.

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>>695275158
>
I need my gun for as long as it takes me to track you down and blow your fucking brains out you shameless homo faggot.

>>695288981
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>>695289039

>>695289100
Less than 1k you fucking retarded faggot

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>>695275158
How many of those 10,728 were criminals shot before they could rape or kill someone?
You're suck a dicklick.

OP here, you're all terrorists, I was right.

>>695288192
Statistics without experimentation are only observations and you cannot derive conclusions from them alone. Intro to Stats.
So your examples are antidotes, nothing more. They ignore the complexity of war and geopolitics to mention the the casualty count inflicted.

So thinking you and your buddies open carrying at the Starbucks would stand a chance is pretty silly. But hey, maybe you can recruit Alex Jones make it interesting.

>>695288981
>Look at how well that worked out for Turkey. And most of those boys were from the military, using military grade weapons.
>STILL LOST
>and will probably die for it.

You were too stupid to study Turkish coup history and why that specific one failed. Troll where people don't actually know what went down. FYI the Turkish military Kemalists didn't intervene because they SUPPORT Erdogan.

The few plebs who revolted couldn't drive a clown car, and Erdogan likely had them infiltrated. Otherwise the F-16s which "supposedly" tracked his plane would have hit the pickle buttons and turned his ass into bloody chaff.

If Erdogan were in Game of Thrones he'd be chilling on the Iron Throne, cuddling his pet dragons, and drinking out of the skulls of every other major character.

>>695289100

Suicide by cop is how niggers steal copper and lead.

>>695288995
You actually think gun owners would be organized enough to pose any real threat. The truth is they would be snuffed out by the FBI, ATF, or applicable agency.

>>695287663
not if a nutcase got a weapon WHEN a nutcase gets a weapon

>>695289039
Drones

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Open carry makes us all safer.

>>695275158
Who says I needed one?
You can't hold everyone responsible for the minority of people who break the law..and btw, the law is murder.
If liberals want to ban guns, I say ban Muslims. Same logic, fucking hypocritical liberal cunts.

>>695281948
>those shoes

I can understand why someone would want to kill you

>>695283742
God, I wish more people realized this. I've been saying it for years.

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>>695290367
Next

>>695289820
>So thinking you and your buddies open carrying at the Starbucks would stand a chance is pretty silly.

No sillier than you thinking that represents a rather large and often well trained armed citizenry. I hang with other active and retired SNCO and officer .milfags (and not a bunch of fobbits or naive junior enlisted). You have no idea how vulnerable even the modern US forces would be in a (real) civil war, or how they'd split if the shit hit the fan.

Combat arms has always been packed with patriots. The people your ignorant ass thinks would turn on the public generally hold opposite views. How much do you know about the military from personal experience? The real deal don't go to Starbucks unless there's one on base and they are on 12-hour shifts and need the caffeine.

>>695289564
You believe that. Tool to the system. Next you will be saying Hillary will save us

>>695291172
Or the NSA doesn;t spy on you

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>>695290233

Hop on it cuz

You're in for one hell of a surprise. Wouldn't be surprising though, if you just picked up a damn book.

>>695290233
Some would, but you omit the CONTEXT of ANY serious civil revolt. I'm not talking about some lunatic fringe types at all, and the number of Americans with combat experience, LEO experience and other training (many enthusiasts shoot more then government employees) is enormous.

>>695288995
Bullshit. Soldiers do what they're told. The ones that don't get fucked. Especially when they see that not following orders puts them in a worse place (on the wrong side).

>>695278016
Cuck

>>695275158
You know damn well the answer.
Need guns for protection from everyone, literally everyone's trying to monopolise everyone else, we're already on the brink of war and if you don't have a gun when someone else does you just die and that's just it, there's no way to take all guns, all you can do is arm further. But guns don't kill people a machine has no intent, people kill people.

That's always going to be the real definitive answer, so you and everyone else can just never ask this again.

and everyone is different, maybe your friend is just a terrorist, nice terrorist friend you have, ass.

>>695288806
The French bailed you out

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>>695275158
>implying that defending your right to a gun is terrorist
>implying that all gun deaths are murders
youre not accounting for population, ruling out suicides, considering defense shootings, or even acknowledging the fact the 80% of ALL gun related deaths in the USA are drug related. but thats ok, you stick with the tiny bit of false information that you think proves youre right OP

>>695291737
And if the soldiers are told this:
>Guys, we've been told to kill the civilians. Fuck that. Let's go defend civilians.

What do you think happens then?

>>695291737
>Soldiers do what they're told

>all soldiers are robots

Yeah, soldiers will love to kill civilians and corral them into concentration camps

If Gov goes against citizens, the desertion rate would be bretty significant

>>695275158
Why do you people need trucks?

>>695291172
>>695291291
Hillary is a criminal. The NSA was designed to spy on you. These things I know. I also know you are making up bullshit numbers about those killed by police. So stfu and let the adults have a conversation.

>>695291737
It would never be so clearly worded. Innocent people are killed during war all the time under the pretense of being the enemy. Happens all the time.

Or, how about "they're separatists, trying to start another civil war?"

>>695291418

Leftists don't understand this. They're too sheltered. They moan about how crazy and deep our gun culture is, but then it suddenly it doesn't exist when this conversation comes up.

We're a fucking war-like people. American riflemen are consistently the best in the world.

These kids have been plinking since the 2nd grade.

To pretend that Americans would just "roll over" to their arms getting confiscated enmasse is asinine.

>>695275158
What a retarded fucking poster. The only relevant statistic would be the overall murder rates. The question is - without guns what would the difference in murders be?

Also those countries barely have any niggers.

>>695284986
No, they prefer shooting kids in elementary school, don't compare terrorism and retards, cause Murica is totally retarded...you shoudln't be allowed to own a gun...2nd is bullshit the NRA fed you, making the constitution a religious book is just stupid, any constitution could be change if some of it sucks...and it does...

To defend against tyrannical government

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>>695292256
hes right you know

>>695292256
The people giving the orders are capable of lying and spreading misinformation. In fact, they're REALLY, REALLY good at it. It won't look like what it is before it's already started. They got Japanese people into internment camps during WWII no problem, and we see that now as a horrible human rights violation.

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We need guns to protect ourselves from whites.

>>695275158
Most of those deaths were with illegal guns and black on black murders

>>695292208
see >>695292475 and >>695292764

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>>695276648
...?
>Handguns are harmless unless in a harmful manner.
>Harmless
>harmful
>????

Friend do you know what a gun is? Like do you know what the purpose of a firearm actually is? They aren't toys, they are designed to kill / seriously injure another person. Saying a gun isn't harmful is like saying swimming with a great white shark is safe.

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>>695275158
I'm guessing OP is a fucking Frenchy

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>>695292602
>The question is - without guns what would the difference in murders be?

And answer to that (according to Australian statistics) is that there is no causative difference.

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Report-on-gun-related-suicides-and-crime-for-the-Australian-Parliament-Rev.pdf

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>>695275158
why do you care

I feel safer knowning nobody has a gun than knowning any of you retarded Americunt got one for ''protection'' aka the thing I pull out whenever I fear for my life or I wanna show off and act bad ass...

Because you need to defend yourself. Not everyone has a police officer near them. If you live in the rural areas there is barely any police. It's a good idea to have guns legal.

I almost got shot and I still have the same view. It's not the gun who is killing it's the man who is pointing the gun.

>>695293028
This

>>695293145
That's nice. Now run along and keep screaming to people around you that Islam is a religion of peace.

>>695292962
Shark has consciousness

Gun is metal and plastic and is not sentient

A shark is a shark and will do what it damn well pleases

A gun is a lifeless object that is mearly an extension of the user's morality

Try harder

>>695293261
exept you don't, unless you are retarded and cause trouble all the time there shoudln't be a random attack at every corner with a gun...

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>>695292438

>>695288111
no, it's part of the constitution

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>>695293390
That is retarded

A gun is designed to kill, and you Americans proved over and over you aren't intelligent enough to be carrying those...You get into an arguement? Pull a gun
You want to suicide but not alone? No problem, we sell guns to anyone here so we don't mind if you might be a psychopath going on a rampage...

At least, there is less and less retards, I guess it's natural selection

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>>695293416
>unless you are retarded and cause trouble all the time there shoudln't be a random attack

lel. What?

>>695293803
You know what retarded,people that have no guns trying to take other people's gun

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The citizens need guns for when the Tyrannical Trump tries to deport citizens because of there peaceful religion.

>>695287144
The picture clearly says it is according to 2006. West Berlin still did not exist then you fucking retard.

>>695293384
I didn't see any of these gun heroes save the day on any terrorist act tho...anyway, you change subject cause you know guns ownership laws are retarded, you can't defend those!

>>695293390
A gun is a tool, just like a hammer or screwdriver, except the gun's purpose as a tool is to injure or kill. You can stab someone with a screwdriver or crack them in the head with the hammer, or you can hammer a nail with the gun if you want, sure, but you know what it's really for. Actually, the hammer and screwdriver are better at killing then the gun is at hammering. Why do you need one again?

>>695292475
Our people haven't been brainwashed by the government long enough to believe that.

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>>695293803
All you have is insults, straw man scenarios, and emotionally fueled butthurt to support your argument.

>you Americans
Please refer to pic related and kindly fuck off.

>>695293803
>assuming that you need something designed to kill in order to kill
>there are knives that are are designed to kill yet we keep those

how have americans proved we arent intelligent enough to carry guns safely? i dare you to pull some sort of fact out of your ass to prove that

>>695293803
>Americans
>all the same

K

>>695293954
actually we need the for if crooked hillary lets them all in and take us over from the inside

>>695294058
You have not provided and substance to argue against except your feelings (which are highly irrelevant).

>>695275158
dude guns dont kill people
people kill people guns just make it funner and easier

>>695293939
Trying to make sense of what you said, but it seems to be retarded...I want to take your gun away? Not really, I'm saying you shouldn't carry one in the first place or at least, they should pass laws that requires a gun buyer to pass some test to prove he's mentally able to carry a gun

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>>695293803
>you Americans proved over and over you aren't intelligent enough to be carrying those
I think you're thinking of criminal niggers

>>695293803
>A gun is designed to kill
No, a gun is designed to make bits of metal go fast and accurately hit a target from a distance

Besides mine haven't killed anything, so I must be using them wrong

>>695294458
>prove he's mentally able to carry a gun

>actually think those are effective

Trying to make sense of what you said, but it seems retarded....you think mental screenings prevent crime?

>>695294144
Who said I'm from Europe? I didn't...and you should think about other country, because lots of them are better than America

All I got is insult AND arguement, you have nothing to prove guns are any good!

>>695294458
>pass some test to prove you can handle a gun

gee like a license to carry? they have that, people go around the laws and buy their guns on the black market, Jamal isnt buying his heat at walmart

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>>695293390
"oh but but, people kill people with guns, its not the GUNS fault we gave him the ability to shoot up an entire school and he wouldn't of been able to do it otherwise / or without acquiring one ilegally, m-muh freedoms :CCCC"

your point is invalid, a gun is a dangerous thing, regardless if its sentient or not, they aren't toys to be fucked around with, and by the looks of it, I'm more scared of being shot by you fucktards then being eaten by a shark in your shitty degenerate country rofl.

try a BIT harder.

>>695294463
Nah, you rednecks too, not any better

>>695282170
What about the purrmonster.