Only difference is Japan wasn't smart enough to respond with terrorist attack like the desert monkeys do today. Think it's bad now, nuke them and see what happens.

>>694895456
I don't think they'd be capable of doing so if we struck with enough impact at once, especially if we were to target wherever they have their weaponry

Granted there'd probably be a rise in attacks on foot though

>>694895333
because you cant wipe out thousands of innocent people to wipe out terrorists
/thread

Oprah gave out nukes and now there are far too many repercussions if we do so

>>694895932
>innocent
and why not? we fucked up civilians lives with horishima.
also
>/threading your own post
faggot

>destroy most of the worlds oil infrastructure
great idea

>making the same mistake twice

pls

Liberals, that's why

/thread

Because you're not going to wipe out every single member of Isis at the exact same time.

Want to provide Muslims who otherwise wouldn't of done shit while living within other countries a good reason to join Isis an kill people?

Blow up their fucking home country and their remaining family within it.

Because terrorists are people too
/thread

>>694896149

not OP, but maybe that would be the push we need to actually make viable electric cars and explore non-fossil fuel options.

Canada's got oil for now anyways.

>>694896149
This. When the trucks stop rolling, the shelves get empty. When shelves get empty, people get hungry. Civilization is 3 meals away from anarchy.

>>694896078
>we murdered thousands of innocent people before that makes it ok to do it again
you are a fucking retard do you know that

>decades of inhuman and shortsighted foreign policy leads to terrorism
>hey lets have some more inhuman and shortsighted foreign policy
>that should clear everything up
>americans

>>694895932
>>694896194
>>694896298
>/threading your own posts
Smells like summer

>>694895456
they already want the absolute worst for us, nuking them isnt going to change anything.
>>694895333
Whats stopping us from nuking the middle east? Rendering all the oil useless. Think anon.

>>694896319
I agree with the sentiment of moving away from oil but if you cut off the supply from the middle east just like that the world would grind to a halt and degenerate into chaos in a matter of weeks

>>694896439

Oh look a butt hurt oldfag, what a surprise

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>>694896439
Not getting the joke
>summer breeze, makes me feel fine

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>>694895333
Politics.

is your attack towards muslims or Arabs, if its about islam, only 20% of the muslims are in middle east

>>694895333
Are you stupid? Nobody knew what an atomic bomb was. It was a surprise attack. Now everyone has a nuke. Do you have any fucking clue about the retaliation that would happen?

>>694895333
Nuclear fallout and the effects it has on the ozone.

>>694896439
hey guys you better follow this mans rules of the internet
if you dont you WILL be labeled as being too new
got it?
this is serious business

>>694896078
1. The US and Britain created the situation in the Middle East with forming the state of Israel and backing these insurgents (who later became terrorists) to overthrow regimes they didn't like.

2. Oil and allies

3. We dropped nukes mainly to scare Russia and because we were in all out war with Japan, not searching for terror cells in Japan

4. Dropping nukes to get a small group of people is fucking insane. We're in a world where everyone has nukes, and one of the most powerful nations just dropped one on a sovereign country to get a small group of people. How do you think that would change the political climate? Would that make us safer or much worse off?

Basic modern history. Crack open a book.

>>694897115
The really ironic thing is that people saying that you can't /thread your own post only started like 2 years ago

What you do, you let it be known that each time one of these raghead cunts causes a terrorism attack that you will round up every single member of their family, from elders to babes in arms, put them in a field and machine gun the entire lot of them before throwing the corpses into a pig pen to be eaten.

>>694897010
Source?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFkw0hzW1c

>>694895333
>in all seriousness
Top fucking zozzle

If the middle eastern countries declared war on the US and actively tried to engage in any form of combat then it would he grounds to bomb them. But a group of terrorists attacking European countries isn't a good enough reason.

>>694897376
Not irony but still true

>>694895333
Because its a war crime....?

>>694897142
if Israel had stayed in its original form things probably wouldnt be so bad. Their aggressive territorial expansion and their oppression of the Palestinians is what really pissed everyone off, along with the second bit of point 1.
Ironic that Israel does exactly what the Nazis did, blatant land grabs, discrimination on religious and ethnic lines and forcing the people they dont like into ghettos.

>>694897142
Literally this. If we wouldn't have established fascist dictatorships that stayed friendly to US economic interests, there wouldn't be any problems there today. Well maybe some, but not as much.

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>>694895333
survivors would suicidally attack israel

>>694897933
>>694897933
I don't think you know what irony is.

>>694895333
What are you twelve? Put some thought into your statement, read some history and come back. Fuck.

>>694898226
it wasnt economic concerns, those policies cost billions and billions in direct costs and ongoing aid/support for the regimes. it was all about anti-soviet cold war stuff and unquestioning devotion to israel

>>694896239
>Typing phonetically and not understand that 'would of' is grammatically incorrect and that it's instead 'would have'.

Wanna stop butchering the English language there, Tyrone?

>>694899756
irregardlessve the grammar his point is valid

>>694895333

Because the western establishment needs a darker culture to make what we do look acceptable, polarity.

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>>694895333
waiting for Elon Musk to give us that renewable energy first

>>694895333
If you're at war with a nation state, you can drop a nuke and make said nation state surrender.
That only works against governments, not against terrorists.

>>694896507
>Rendering all the oil useless
No it wouldn't

>>694899844
>irregardlessve

>>694896909
Unfortunately you're right. There is this breed of home grown territorism that seems to think it's immune to national borders, laws, and humanity.
I think the best thing for the time being is to deport them to their war-torn countries so it's easier to identify and resolve the extremists.
There'll be hard feelings between those we deported who weren't extremists, but an apology can go a long ways.

>>694895333
What would it take to burn all the Qurans and Bibles in existence??

>>694900218
itd make it fucking hard to dig up and distribute. the interruption of supply would be severe and long enough to utterly tank the world economy to the point of total collapse

>>694900497
>itd make it fucking hard to dig up and distribute. the interruption of supply would be severe and long
The radiation from a nuclear blast dissipates much quicker than you think it does.

>>694900644
you have no idea how quickly I think it dissipates
ignoring the radiation completely, youve still destroyed the rigs and the pipelines and terminals and a good percentage of the tanker fleet. you cant seriously be suggesting that you could flatten the middle east with nukes then just keep the oil supply going. thats nonsense.

>>694900644
I hope his point is that all of the in place infrastructure for drilling and shipping crude would be severely damaged or destroyed.

>>694901211
>>694901254
Within days it work would begin to rebuild it. They'd already have plans in place to get it flowing again as soon as possible.

>>694901545
pure fantasy. it would be years of work to replace even a meaningful fraction of all that infrastructure, and within weeks the world would be in chaos. the price of oil would immediately go through the roof and be unaffordable for most needs. within a month the death toll from starvation and civil disintegration in the rest of the world would far exceed the numbers killed by the bombing.

>>694895333
Once the first town is melted in a nuclear fireball, things will escalate very quick from there.

>>694902501
>pure fantasy.
That's exactly what your post is. The world would not collapse into chaos, you faggot.

There's oil in plenty of other places.

>>694896149
well put nigga

>>694898055
>if Israel had stayed in its original
Impossible. Palestine wanted everything from the beginning so they never accepted the UN's planned equal split of the British mandate into an Arab and Jew state.

Then they fought it out and Israel won, Israel then essentially decided yeah maybe you guys were right with the whole one-state idea, and since we're the champs that one state will be ours, not yours.

>>694896405
Yes,wipe em out

Nuke bomb = Cancer Party (like past generation)

>>694903404
Maybe will we even have zombies

>>694903264
>Impossible
well no, whatever solution was decided on in the west could easily have been enforced. israel was only capable of doing what they did (indeed is only capable of existing now in its current form) because of US economic and military aid. but the US cant or wont say no to israel for some reason.

>>694904379
>conspiracy theories are fun
I wonder who could be behind this anon....

>>694900142
He's not even working on that.

>>694904876
zmao its no conspiracy theory, US support of israel is common knowledge and a matter of record. the US has vetoed more UN security council resolutions than the rest of the council members put together, most of them were attempts to reign in israel. even when israel developed a nuke the US prevented the UN from investigating. in its early years the vast majority of israels military hardware came from the US. the US has given israel billions of dollars a year since its creation. continued support of israel is a common campaign pledge for US presidents. none of this is secret Anon.

>>694895333
>I'd say it's called for now just as much as it was back then.
You must be clinically retarded if you wish to employ nukes on people YOU aggrevated into the complete shitstorm that is today. Have fun with WWIII on your hands. You're not even facing a realistic threat. You just wish to kill people based on your prejudice.
Far less than any majority is radicalized in the middle east. You'll mainly kill civilians, and no matter how much you think they deserve it for their ethnicity you'll have consequences on your hands. You'll get war on your home turf, something the United States desperately need for your retarded population to realize what the fuck they're doing to the world. I don't care who it is, but the invasion and control of the area now considered the United States should be welcomed, you're obviously not capable of handling your own shit.

>>694897376
Or even a couple months lol

>>694895588
You mongoloid, the middle east is not producing guns in any major quantities. The guns available is american left overs and soviet-related firearms produced in china, korea and soviet left over shit. They're already bombed to shit, and continue to import weaponry. Nuking it would in the end JUST mean more people angry at your retarded shit. And at one point, the world will have you cornered and you're more fucked than you'd ever imagine.

>>694896405
Best post itt

Iranian nuclear proliferation

>>694896387
it's called a "precedent," we've done it before so why not do it again? you have to give a reason why we should change, i don't have to give shit for why we should stay the same

a lot of people say the amount of innocent people killed would have been more without the nukes, especially considering firebombing and the like.

>>694897142
>We dropped nukes mainly to scare Russia
ok lol

>>694897376
>>694906451
no lol people have been saying that for a lot longer than that

>>694908569
Sorry anon, but anon has a point.

I was about to respond with something akin to "we learn from our mistakes"

but since we're like best of friends with Japan now, it's difficult to argue that dropping the bombs was a mistake on anything other than nebulous moral grounds. Politically and in terms of stabilization, it seems to have reset Japanese thought and did a fine job of establishing long term Pacific peace *shrug*

>>694896507

how about this? we suck all the oil out, then we nuke them. might be a few years late, but we still nuke them no matter what.

>>694910234
We don't need there oil. There's oil plenty of places besides the Middle East. Just nuke em.

The price will shoot up but there will be plenty once distribution from other sources acclimate to the new environment. Venezuela and Canada are going to become rich as fuck.

>>694895333
they didn't declear us war

>>694900467
>saying this while using something that also stores text in a digital format
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

>>694895333
There's nothing worth
nuking, its just sand

I would rather just have europe grow a pair and just round those rodents up and send them to Syria and Lybia and not allow them back in.

And if they try to travel back up and cross borders, ice them on site.

>>694895333
Because ISIS is to spread out they control no major lands worth bombing the real way to stop them is through counterterrorism, watching cell phones, isis recruitment websites, watching people with ties to Muslim terrorist cells etc

>>694912676
*islamic terrorist cells

>>694909636
Dropping the bombs on japan was like fighting a friend that gets out of hand at a party. You knock his ass out. The next day, you're like, are you allright? But in your mind, you're like, do that again and I knock your ass out permanently.

Apologize? No need. I don't see japanese apologizing for the rape of nanking, comfort women, pearl harbor, phillipines, etc.

>>694895932
muslums / innocent
you can only chose one
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

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>>694895333
it would solve about 2/3 of the worlds problems in in one boom, but people like this on on their PAYROLL never going to happen...

>>694895333
>in all seriousness i am an ignorant fucktard when it comes to world affairs and yet feel entitled to add to public opinion, pls explain
get out

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>>694900348
You do realize most Muslim countries aren't at war or in desolation.

> Never left small town USA
> Thinks he has the authority to make statements about global politics

So of the largest Muslim populations are in Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan. India, Bangladesh, and China.

Are you going to bomb China fucking retard?

>>694895333
The difference is scale. Japan in WWII posed a much greater threat to the US and to global stability than any Middle Eastern country or terrorist organization does today. Japan had a large organized military, conquered dozens of countries and killed tens of millions of civilians. ISIS is just a regional terrorist group. Their total military force consists of only about 15,000 fighters, which is literally less than 1% of Japan's troop numbers in WWII. And unlike Japan they don't have an Air Force or Navy. The total number of civilians killed by ISIS is maybe 10,000-20,000, which is also less than 1% of the number that Japan killed in WWII. There's no country or terrorist group in the Middle East that poses a serious threat to global stability. ISIS is already being defeated by the Iraqi Army and Iran knows they'd get their ass kicked if they carried out any serious attacks on the US or its allies. The terrorist attacks that have been carried out by ISIS so far are too small to merit any serious response. How many Westerners do you think ISIS has killed? A few hundred. Maybe one thousand, at most. That's far too small a number to justify bombing out the entire Middle East. Japan killed tens of millions of civilians including hundreds of thousands of Westerners. The difference between the two is enormous.

>>694912552
> being this retarded

Your right all these people are only fighting over sand...

>>694913889
> dude relax with the numbers and facts
> phew you're on /b/ for fuck sakes

wait till /pol/ reads this shit

>>694913653
To be fair, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how autistic it may be. In some parts of the world, they're not entitled to share their opinion, but /b/ is not one of those places.

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You guys realize oil isn't rendered useless if nuked, and there's oil in other places than the Middle East? If that's all sand niggers are good for we should wipe their race out and take over the land, same with Mexicos shit stew they call a country. At least whites already own all the nice parts of it.

>>694914084
It would be difficult to explain a difference in scale without using numbers. And it's not my fault that /pol/ likes running away with their imagination and making a big deal out of thin air.

>>694914767
There'll be plenty of oil right here in the US as long as the hippies don't ban fracking.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiTV9HLWHN4

>>694915144
Goddamn right. Ohiofag here. The economy is dope since Kasich let us frack.

>>694895333
Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened because the Amerifags wanted to see the results of the bombs. The knew but they wanted to see them

>>694895333
Amerifags don't have the money (yet) to start a war. They pay their debt to China. (yet)

Important people who are illuminatis and part of the cult.

Like Sharjah ruler, royal families that keep the "slaves" of MiddleEastern countries under control.

Without Middle East. The small Jewish penis will not be able to function as penetration tool.

Got it? no Middle East. No Jewish Fun. No Barack Obama fucking 13 years old school girls in the white house?

Do you want Obama to be fucking 4 13yo girls in the white house each month?

Do you really want Obama not to fuck middle school girls and enjoy sucking Michael long pink penis?

no dawg... lulz

>>694916880
China only owns 8% of the US national debt. The majority of it is owned by US citizens, companies and institutions.
And a large scale bombing campaign from the air is a lot cheaper than putting a large land force on the ground.

>>694917199
ok but you can't just bomb a country and then stay home. You have to go there or they will come to you. You still need ground forces.

What you say bitch? That's part of BLM op your a bitch call me and send me your address I'll fuck yo shit
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>>694917409
Tell that to Japan. We got them to surrender without ever putting a single boot on their homeland.

>>694895333

either your a troll or an idiot.

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>>694895333
wellllll

we'd have to kill a fifth of our own population

probably mostly women and Muslims

but after that?..

wellll we'd probably get cut out of world trade. and the stock market would crash. and we'd be forced to rely on our own natural resources for everything.

but besides that?...

wellllllllll, there's the off chance someone might nuke us. Maybe a lot of them. Which could potentially lead to the end of recorded history. which is exactly what those fucking sandniggers think they want in the first place. but that's a remote chance. Right, Russia? China? Guys?

>>694917516
Ahmmmm that's not true

Because US isn't the only nation with nukes any more. Iran is Russian ally, and Pakistan has nukes.