I'm hoping Hillary Shiton gets arrested so Sanders can move in. Or else ether way the WKUK's skit will be useful. https://youtu.be/QEQOvyGbBtY

Bump while I make mine

>>694855911
Nice dubs

>>694856772
>implying

>>694855214
arizona and new mexico voting clinton.
haha

>>694856772
>Loses New York
>Wins Vermont

Are you fucking high?

I trust Hillary 1% with an army/ nuclear codes
I trust trump 0% with an army/nuclear codes
also HES LYING you people are fucking retarded if you dont see right through him

>>694857142
As much as I'm sure it hurts, you have to count the Latino vote

>>694857643
That would make New Mexico blue, but not Arizona.

Arizona would require a 9.03% shift from 2012 to go to Clinton.

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>>694855214
I think it'll be tighter

I dont think alot of people realize the huge electoral advantage Democrats have.

All she needs it the blue states plus 2 or 3 battleground states.

>If she can win Florida plus ANY other battleground state - She wins

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>>694857826
Assuming you're not a lying faggot, Trump may enjoy those 11 electoral college votes.
What changes?

>>694858383
I'm not lying.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/states/arizona

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>>694858175
And all Trump needs to do is flip Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, which are all very well possible at the moment.

The maths work in both ways.

>>694857568

>HES LYING you people are fucking retarded if you dont see right through him

THIS

It's pathetic that people are taking what he says seriously. Its so obvious that he's just saying what he thinks people wanna hear and if elected he'll just set all of it aside and do whatever the fuck he wants.

>If you think hes gonna build a massive wall along the border and get Mexico to pay for it - You're a dumbass

>>694859743
no way nevada goes blue for this election

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>>694855214
>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/create_your_own_president_map.html

Trump 2016 <3

>>694860228

Change the following:

Nevada to Lean Clinton
New Mexico to Strong Clinton
Illinois to Safe Clinton
Missouri to Strong Trump
Iowa to Lean Trump
Maine to Strong Clinton
Mississippi to Strong Trump
Florida to Lean Trump
New Jersey to Safe Clinton

I could go on and on...

>>694858767

The key is that Trump has to "Flip" Democratic states to win - All Democrates have to do is keep some of the battle ground states that they already had in the win column the last 2 elections.

Ohio and Florida are "Battleground" states but they've been going Democrat for for multiple cycles. And winning Pennsylvania is a pipe dream.

Trump has alienated blacks, latinos and women - I don't think there's enough white male vote to overcome the demographic challenges hes up against.

>>694860679
British point of view. NOTE that I am British, not American ;)

>>694860698
i dont care about how strong, its just who wins, also forgot to make Me 2 to Shrillary.

>>694860849
that would explain why your map is fucking retarded m8

>>694859743
Trump isn't strong enough in the rustbelt to pull this off (And Nevada will probably go Democrat)

>>694860724
That's not a pipe dream according to the polls.

http://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2365

I don't know if Trump will win, but it certainly won't be the Clinton landslide many have been predicting.

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Here is the very accurate prediction of the 2016 election.

>>694860945
Lol fuck you dickhead. I know Cali is more leaned to dems, same with florida. Hawii but thats about it. republicans, texas is one of their main states BUT WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I CARE OR EVEN KNOW?
I dont bother with American politics that often anyway
I am more focused in the UK's politics to be fair...so you cant expect me to know 100% on US aggressive politics

Hilldog's only 2 points behind Trump, in Texas :D

>>694861390
Go back to your side of the pond, Jeremy.

>>694861390
UK politics has its issues too.

last election UKIP got more votes than SNP, but UKIP only got 1 seat and SNP got 56.

>>694861390
what kind of an IDIOT voted for brexit? All of my educated, EMPLOYED friends in London are aghast. it would appear that uneducated, extreme right wing imbeciles abound in the UK.

Hopefully Scotland leaves the UK, an stays in the EU (with their oil).

The only thing I know for sure? Is that Hillary will win. In a massive - MASSIVE landslide.

Regardless how you feel about her or Trump.

>>694861804
that filename lol

>>694861734
Confirmed Project Fear troll

>>694861734
>this much political bias

lolol.

this guy has no clue about sovereignity.

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Here's a fun scenario where neither gets the 270 needed to get a clear win

>Not gonna happen - but one can dream

Reply

>>694862108
You forgot Maine's second Congressional district, you fucking Korean

>>694860679
Dammit Anon! I laughed so hard I spilled my coffee!

>You voted for the Brexit didnt you?

>>694862291
still 269-269, you tard.

>>694862291
he purposely didn't assign it so neither would win, fucktard

>>694862102
lol you didn't have sovereignty whilst you were in the UK?

oh you idiot lel

you haven't left yet. when you do, you're going to know financial sufferings few developed countries have ever experienced.

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My map. 100% accurate.

>>694862429
If he assigned it to Clinton, it would be 269-269.

Learn maths, Park Chung-hee

>>694862464
i've never been to the UK, dude.

>>694862498
>giving trump ohio, florida, pennsylvania, iowa, and nevada
>not being a huge faggot

pick one.

>>694862549
you've probably never left the nation you were born in.

you're young, undereducated, and not at all worldly.

I'll forgive your stupidity, it's a part of being young.

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No one gives a shit about Texas. They can turn the state into a 3rd world country and secede.

>>694862498
but trump will lose ohio, iowa, florida, Nevada.

for sure. like it's not debatable at this point. stupid.

>>694862958
My second cousin's grandfather fought in the American-Brazilian War

>>694862958
projecting much?
>35 yo american
>Lived in the Netherlands for 4 years.
>Analytical Chemist.

your move.

>>694862291
That's the 1 toss-up and if it goes Hillary we have a 269 to 269 split and ithe House of Representatives has to decide who our next president is

...then I get to watch the world burn

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pretty comfy cIinton win

>>694862991
would be kind of cool if we could "physically" remove, say, Arkansas, Louisiana, texas and Mississippi. kinda redo the coastline.

huge welfare states. suck billions of dollars from the coasts. trashy, educated people.

I hate Donald Trump with a passion but part of me wants him to win so I can harvest the bitter tears of leftists and SJW faggots.

Their agony would be glorious.

>>694863255
oh god if that's the case, then I just feel sorry for you. you've lost your grasp on reality at this point. those northern latitudes have massively atrophied your brain. are you taking *any* vitamin d?

>>694862941
>>694863121
No chance he loses Florida or pennylvania

>>694863607
wow.

you just keep running your mouth, dont you? i figured you would've given up by now, but apparently you cant figure that much out on your own either, proceed with the foot in mouth.

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>>694862991
>>694863388

>Economy comparable to Canada and Australia
>Third world country

The only other state that could make it on its own would be Commiefornia, but it'd fall into anarchy after a few years from all the socialist policies they'd enact.

>>694863563
this. also war, I don't think trump's emotional maturity would keep the US safe for long.

buuuut Hillary Clinton winning - can you IMAGINE how angry republicans will be? they're going to shit themselves every day for years.

republican hatred for Clinton > democratic hatred for trump

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The real fun starts in 12 or 16 years when Texas goes Blue

>Cue the Republican denial

>>694856772

>the entirety of New England not blue

>>694863846
well texas is the world's 7th largest economy now. and will be the 6th world's largest economy soon (again).

Texas? well... oil's just not that big of a thing anymore. it will be again. but not for now.

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>>694863621
recent polls are tight, but showing a clinton lean in PA.

>>694863914
>this. also war

Actually it's Hillary who is going to bring us war.

She voted for the Iraq war twice.

She wants war with Iran.

And now Putin says that if she's elected, the US will be at war with Russia.

Look it up. Hillary is literally the next anti Christ. She wants to bring death and destruction to millions. She will take pleasure in people dying on her behalf. She wants blood because she's totally demonic and evil. A literal puppet of Satan.

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>>694863995
This. Florida was just the start. Then Texas... Then - well, then the Midwest. And the south.

America WILL be a democratic socialist nation.

Guns WILL be banned. The US IS making a left turn, politically. White cons are dying off. Hispanic libs are just being born.

The gun ban will an amazing event to witness.

>>694864141
yeah, that's not tight.

>>694864371
pipedream dude, there will be a civil war before that happens.. and the right will have the guns and you poor leftists will be running for cover.

>>694864225
I don't care either way. I feel like you might be a republican which is unfortunate, because partisans are retards.

>>694863305
This is mostly what I'm thinking as well - Though I'd give Wisconsin to Republicans (Not for certain of course - They had no love for him in the primary)

>>694864371
Adorable. The US will cease to exists before a gun ban is successfully carried out.

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>>694864514
well.. we'll have the military. A-10's doing gun runs on redneck positions.

spooky, flying up there at 6000 feet... guns ready... oh flir sees your heat signature. your entire 'militia', in fact.
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP
and you're done.

next.

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>>694864101
Texas has one of the biggest tech industries in the country. We're set to take over California. People are leaving Silicon Valley in droves. 6 of the top Fortune 500 companies call Texas home. We have way more than just oil.

>>694863995
>>694864371
Never going to happen. Either the wall gets built, or a civil war breaks out and we build a wall ourselves.

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>>694855214

>>694863995
>>694864371
Bullshit. A civil war is coming. My money is on the right.

>>694864514
>>694864769
you remember the last civil war. the same thing will happen this time. maybe you need a reminder.

>>694864848
>Military isn't allowed to attack civilians.
>You are also assuming the military will be washington lapdogs.

>>694863621
Pennsylvania has voted Democratic in the last six elections... We can stop calling it a battleground

>>694864982
lol. You're so precious.

>>694864877
but you're an idiot. and you think trump will win. you thought McCain would win. you voted for gw twice.
no, the 'right' won't win. moderates, leftists and the US military would stomp you again. maybe tactically nuke a few southern cities, to really remind you of your heritage as being losers in civil war.

>>694865026
It's cute. We have a citizen military. They really think they are just going to attack their families and communities. lol....liberals man.

>>694864982
The war that had roughly equal casualties despite the north having an army twice the size? Considering how many northerners are gun grabbers and how many southerners are active/former military or go shooting with Bubba on the weekends? Yeah, I think I'll take my chances.

>>694864621

Definitely not a republican. Both front runners are idiots.

it's just that lefties are always worried about what Trump might do, and I'm more worried about what Clinton has already done.

She's got blood on her hands.

Daily reminder. If the candidate you support has blood on their hands, then so do you.

>>694865248
I never for a second thought McCain would win. I voted for Bush neither time. I voted Obama in 12. Trump will win or their will be a civil war. The left has destroyed this country, maybe beyond repair.

>>694865026
The military was Washington's lapdog last time.
And thus it will remain the same - always loyal to Washington.

Attack the military, and you're no longer an 'innocent civilian', you're an insurgent. an enemy. and you will be destroyed.

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Oh pleasepleaseplease

>>694865468
kek.

whats with you guys and your assumptions.
you speak as if you have all the facts in a hypothetical situation.
theres no way you can know, and the military isnt a bunch of drones, they are individuals with families, and they arent going to just kill them.

>>694865438
>she's got blood on her hands
I assume you mean Benghazi, 4 Americans dead. Tragic.

You seem to conveniently forget GW Bush's war in Iraq. 4000 Americans dead. Not a peep from you or the GOP.

No, this is all partisan. If you were unbiased, you'd have been calling for GW's head. Not just Hillary's.

I'm always amazed that libtards think a military that consists almost entirely of conservative pro-gun personnel will support libtards against conservatives in a civil war

>>694865468
lol. You're a retard.

>>694865687

No, you fucktard. Clinton hasn't seen a war she hasn't supported. Bitch will be dropping bombs on all the wrong people.

>>694865695
/thread.

>>694856772
>trump fans actually believe this

>>694865467
>trump will win

yeah but he won't win. and there won't be a civil war.

I hate to say it, but Clinton will win.

>>694864854
The demographics are changing in Texas - More and more Latino citizens coming of voting age and dont think they'll forget the way Republicans have demonized them.

I dunno about a civil war - We'd just let Texas leave. Texas takes more from the Federal government than it pays in - Sick of those leeches anyways.

>>694865695
It is precious, isn't it?

>>694857142
new mexico is one of the bluest states in the country you twit

>>694865826
I think you mean
>republicans haven't seen a war they haven't supported

I corrected you.

>>694866009
Your statement doesn't make his false.

>people on /b/ who support Clinton....lolol

>>694865695
Son I think you're not familiar with today's soldiers. Modern soldiers tend to be Hispanic, black and white (obviously). But they also tend to be pacifists, leftists and democrats.

when the military meant something, before republicans gutted it fiscally, sure, virtually all soldiers were conservatives.

do some research now. about half of the military are professed liberals and democrats.

>>694865687

Hillary voted for the immoral Iraq war, twice.

Helped militarize police in Haiti, causing the deaths of hundreds

Is literally surrounded by suspicious deaths.

And her husband is a sexual predator.

Anon, you'll never be able to rinse that innocent blood off your hands. You'll face your maker one day, and that blood will be on your hands.

Oh and here's a bonus history lesson for you.

Bill Clinton ignores warnings about Osama Bin Laden. The military even tells him they have the chance to assassinate him, and they should because he's clearly planning an attack on the US.

Clinton ignores the threat and passes the buck along to the next guy.

9/11 happens. Bush illegally invades the wrong country, killing thousands of innocents. This move is fully supported by Hillary Clinton, TWICE

The war in Iraq ends with Obama pulling out the troops. This creates a power vacuum and that creates ISIS and an even greater threat is born. This move is also supported openly by Clinton.

Meanwhile it was Saudi Arabia that helped Osama fund 9/11. And neither Bush, Clinton or Obama do anything about it, because surprise, surprise, they've all taken money from the Saudis

Again. Clinton supporters have the blood and death of innocents on their hands.

>>694866224
if you didn't live in the Midwest or south - you'd see that the rest of the country actually supports Clinton (simply because they hate trump). But you're sheltered in your republican state. And you're an imbecile.

Intelligent people know Hillary will win.

>>694866323
lol. Your autism is off the charts. You speak like you know what you're talking about. It would be cute if not so sad.

>>694866453
oh I know Hillary is an awful person, trust me. But she's going to win.

Not because I want her to win. She's just going to win. People won't vote for Trump because he's a tacky used car salesman, worth 12 beeyon dollars. yuge fortune.

>>694866521
I live San Diego. I see Trump supporters every single day. I have seen 1 (ONE) Hillary supporter in public in the past 9 months.

>>694866009

Donny Dump wouldn't start any wars, but that's because he has no clue what foreign policy is. All he knows is he doesn't want it in his country because it's foreign.

>>694861804
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>>694865965

>The demographics are changing in Texas - More and more Latino citizens coming of voting age and dont think they'll forget the way Republicans have demonized them.
The cities and the border are blue, and everything else is red. Just like any border state. The difference is that in Texas people actually live outside the fucking cities.

>Texas takes more from the Federal government than it pays in - Sick of those leeches anyways

No we don't retard. We pay more than we take in even with all the spics and niggers. And we'd contribute even more if dipshits didn't keep voting to expand welfare.

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>>694866623
we'll see. i'm confident in my assertions. within the next 20 years, we'll repeal the 2nd amendment, ban guns, and confiscate guns.

men like me will come into your home without warrants, and take your guns.

get sporty with them? sure, they will have no problem taking them from your cold, dead hands.

>>694866521
>Hillary will win.

>>694866765
>she's going to win.

I've got bad news for you young friends.

The nation is ruled by opposing forces of red and blue. In reality, they are two sides of the same coin.

One creates schools and helps the poor, the other fights wars and is tough on crime. The nation would not survive without both of these forces.

And so, every few years, the pendulum swings red or blue, depending on what's needed.

Well, I've got bad news for you sunshine. The country is about to swing red in a BIG way.

Brexit was a warning sign. Norbert Hoffer in Austria is also another sign of the global swing right that will soon effect the US

As an old fag, I can give you one bit of advice. No matter who is in power, it won't really effect your daily life all that much.

See you in November.

>>694866882
but san Diego's massively conservative.

>men like me will come into your home without warrants, and take your guns.


hahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>694867175
brexit has nothing to do with the US.

virtually every poll (except Rasmussen, which is a joke), has Clinton ahead. and that includes swing states.

so unless you know away around the silent majority (which is moderate, and loves Clinton), you're done in November.

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>>694867134
never happen

you howling autist

>>694867230
No it's not. It's about 50/50. I'm in LA a lot as well,have seen many more Trump hats, bumper stickers, yard signs than Hillary even there.

>>694867299
Honestly, many gun owners live for this day.

>>694861804
jic

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>>694867134

>men like me will come into your home and get shot on sight

>>694861804
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>>694867514
when you start to think trump will win California (Hillary leads trump I CA by double-digits), you jump from madness to the absurd.

And sir I will not abide by the absurd. Trump winning CA is as likely as a "psyop", or a "false flag". It's not going to happen.

>>694867784
I don't think he will win CA, just saying I do not live in a red state like you claimed and I still see massive support for him.

>>694867430
>brexit has nothing to do with the US.

Yes, it definitely does. It's part of a global change that will directly effect the US.

And the silent majority, is, and always has been, ultra conservative.

I can tell two things about you now. First, you're very young. Second, you're clearly a Clinton voter.

>>694867784

No victorious Republican presidential candidate has won California for many, many years. And it's doesn't matter, because they win anyway.

>>694867134
>without a warrant

"No, without a warrant i have the right to stop you searching my home. Go away"

>>694860679
Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo?

>>694861804
im not falling for that

While technically almost anything can happen...

>Hillary will probably win the Presidency
>Shell be a more hawkish version of Obama
>Mistakes will be made but nothing horrible (though the GOP will paint it that way)
>She wont be impeached
>Republicans will use it as a fundraising opportunity
>America will continue to drift to the Left
>Young American born children of Mexicans will grow up
>Texas will eventually go Democrat
>Republicans will shift their position on social issues to survive
>Sensible gun legislation will be passed
>There will be no 2nd Civil War
>No states will be seceding
>Trump will write a best selling book on how he was robbed of the presidency

>>694861804
Fuck all the people involved here, but I love my doge so here's your reply faggot.

>>694867128
>No we don't retard. We pay more than we take in

No, you really dont. Most years Texas pays less in Federal income tax than it recieves in Federal benefits. Been that way since early 2000's. Thats just a fact.

>>694858786
Increasing fees and tariffs on importation from Mexico would mean that they have to pay for the wall if that money gained from increases is allocated to building that wall.

Thinking that he is lying clearly shows that you are too stupid and don't know economics and that you are an oversimplified cunt that shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>694861804
K

>>694861804
>implying

Fuck Trump, and fuck Hillary
>horse in suit for 2016

>>694864101
Plus we have cotton too boi

>>694855214
I aint got no fancy map, but I'll tell you bros, and I'll put money down. As much as I hate Hillary Clinton the toad looking lying bitch, she WILL win this election. I will be voting for Trump, but Hillary will win. Remember this is the voting public that put Barack in the White House. This is the generation of the hippie raised "yoga" doing "tiny house" living, eat organic bullshit assholes, artist/musician/liberal "I read 3 books" so I know what I'm talking about generation. Most of the last good men died in Vietnam, now the majority is the offspring of the draft dodging hippies. You ever wonder why we didnt dominate in Vietnam, or in the middle east? Read something about it. Hippies, who were the only ones state side not getting their asses blown off basically made policy (thanks to fat white shits who wanted to keep their jobs more than back the military)... You want to understand this country? No bullshit? Read this book. "On Yankee Station". Go fucking read it, and see why Hillary is going to win. America doesnt like a hero anymore, they want somebody who doesnt interfere with their "Yoga, Organic, No guns bullshit" Good fucking luck fellow Americans. God help us all.

>>694856772
>Trump getting Washington
kek

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Bernie supporter here. This is my analysis so far.

>>694870201
You actually believe the shit Trump says?

How do you know when to believe him? Do you believe what he says at the Rally? Or do you believe what his people say when they "clarify" his statement for him after? Or do you believe what he tweets later that night undoing the previous statement? Or do you believe him when he says the exact opposite of what he'd originally said when he calls in to one of the networks?

I really wanna know how you decide which of the things he says are true and which to discard - because he's on every side of an issue depending on who he's speaking to at any given time.

And unfortunately we'll never know about his wall since he'd have to win the Presidency to even attempt it and Clinton will get over 300 delegates.

>>694871244
Go back to sucking Olof Palme's ghost dick

>>694871244
I mostly agree but dont believe Pennsylvania will flip

Pennsylvania hasn't voted Republican since the time they thought they were gonna get a 3rd term of Ronald Reagan out of George H.W. Bush.

>>694871909
There truly is a curse of high intelligence nowadays.

This is like saying something can't be true or must be untrue just because you don't understand how it works. If you actually know economics, and you don't have to go to school for that because it is a philosophy, you would understand most of the things Trump says. Also if you would do some research you can see that Trump has been super consistent on everything he says, he was even reluctant to becoming the POTUS but there truly is a need for a strong leader now that just wasn't there and he is patriotic enough to do the job even if it means giving up on what he loves most running businesses and making deals. He truly wants to make the USA a great nation and what the leftist media shows is just propaganda and people are falling for it.
I don't even want to get into the Clinton stuff and even if Clinton was good, you should still vote Trump because there should be no need for contrast on this. Just do some research that is fully neutral, googling things without picking sides within the question and looking at data without censoring unfavorable information. Because that is what you're basically doing whenever a well informed Trump supporter is showing you facts, you try to censor them without facts but more feelings.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it is bad. Lastly, it is okay to be "stupid" but it is not okay to let that be the reason for bad decisions. If you don't know economics, you shouldn't vote, generally speaking.

>>694873682
huh. so you "know economics". then why are the world's leading economics saying that trump's financial policies are untenable?

they must be "globalists", huh (your new buzzword).

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>>694870201
>derp

>Donald Trump admitted that he brings up the implausible idea of building an even bigger “wall” between the United States and Mexico than the one that already exists just to get applause from a sleepy audience.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/trump-admits-his-talk-of-a-great-wall-along-the-mexican-border-is-a-trick-to-rile-up-a-sleepy-crowd/

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>>694873682
Trump care about no one but Trump. Fuck that orange douche.

>The investors who bought into his IPO at $10/share exited with shares less than $1. In the same time, investors in Harrah's casinos doubled their money; MGM and Starwood investors quadrupled their money.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/11/this-is-how-trump-made-millions-while-running-his-casinos-into-the-ground/

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-its-stock-collapsed-trump%e2%80%99s-firm-gave-him-huge-bonuses-and-paid-for-his-jet/ar-AAgWORF?li=BBnbfcN

This is exactly what brainwashed people in denial say.

First, don't absorb the actual content I said.
Second, oversimplify and make fun of it unreasonably.
Third, try to use mainstream propaganda as an actual source of information.

Did you actually understand what I said?
Do your own research for God's sake, no picking sides as you just did again. Just cold hard facts without any opinions. Also not all economists think the same way, that's called generalizing, something you also did with everything I told you. If you can't see that the way you think and process is wrong then that is the problem and you need to solve that. Just listen to me.
Do your own research on Trump, don't take it from me, take it from yourself.
When I see something controversial or something that could influence me being said, I don't look for people that have the same opinion as me or that criticise it. I look for what the effects are and a lot of other factors that should determine wether it is good or bad. A good tip is that everything good has a bad side and both sides are opinions.

>>694861804
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>>694875776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

>>694875659
That's called capitalism, the better your shit the more you earn, if your shits bad you won't last in the market. Investors that invest take a gamble when investing and it doesn't always work out with a profit. It's not always sunshine and rainbows.

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>>694875990
>derp

So you want to make the United States Trump's next screwed over business partner? No thanks.

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>"but termp's not tha elite hurrrrr da durrrrr dee durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!"
>"trermp isn't a politca insidurrrrr da hurrrrr durrrrr de durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!"

But trump is THEE elite. Worth: $12 billion.
And trump is THEE political insider: "I've been donating to democrats and republicans for longer than most of you have been alive, I am a part of American politics."

>>694875659
Also do you have any other evidence other than these media outlets spewing shit?
Have you looked into the companies accounting and the reports? Do you know the business itself well enough to judge it?

I can't believe these anti trump people, he is super smart and thus able to deceive people and investors to make big bucks but he is also the most stupid fuck for just talking and saying what he believes would help the USA. Unbelievable.

>>694873682

>"Trump has been super consistent on everything he says"

Really? So...

>Is he still self-funding his campaign like he promised?
>Is he still pro-choice?
>Does he still believe that invading Iraq was a good idea?
>Is he still neutral on the Israel-Palestine issue?
>Is he still for banning assault weapons?
>Does he still want to extend waiting periods to buy guns?
>Does he still say Hillary Clinton is a "terrific woman and that she "really works hard" and "does a good job"?
>Does he still say that Japan should develop their own nuclear weapons?

Man, you say I shouldn't vote because I'm "stupid" - Well, I rely on my common sense which is something you are obviously lacking

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>>694875990
that's called fascism. Donald trump is a FASCIST.

capitalism failed, by the way. 1% of the nation controls 99.998% of the nation's wealth.

the middle class is gone. you with it, for some reason you think you're above the fray. or that you're on par with a billionaire. or millionaire. and you're not. but you campaign soooo hard for them. isn't that something...

In most forums, you'd be referred to as a 'cuck'. or an 'sjw'. the same thing you've accused others of being.

>>694873682
>he was even reluctant to becoming the POTUS

The reluctant leader trope? Never thought someone would pull that one out for Trump.

>>694875268
There is no actual context of what he is saying. Holy shit are you blind? How do you not see that the title is just to ge tyour attention nd that whatever is quoted is taken out of context. Did you actually see the full source of information? No? Neither did I but I am pretty sure that you should see it to actually make an accurate judgement.

Trump's a liberal:
1. wants gun control
2. wants universal healthcare
3. pro-abortion
4. wants to raise the minimum wage
5. wants to tax the rich
6. will grow the govt
7. will spend trillions on 'ousting illegals' and building some fucking wall (and covering the salaries of the tens of thousands of govt workers he'll create)

>>694876469
He has been a public figure for a long time, look it up.

>>694876688
What does that have to do with being reluctant about becoming a president?

>>694876385
Do you actually know what fascism is? I don't see people getting beat down for not supporting trump, I don't see any violence being used or force.

>>694876807
Because if you actually did your research you'd have discovered that people always wanted him to become president and he always said there should be some other strong leader instead and that he doesn't want to do it.

He never got any hate for what he said, he got support. It is funny how only after he announced running for president that people started hating on him and making things up and calling him generalized terms such as facist.

>>694855214
>az a blue state
>lol

>>694876668
>>694876353
You two are judging from a sample of items you chose, censoring all the other items and concluding a judgment based on a very biased sample. If you actually include all his stances and past you will depending on your research see that whatever you said is a small minority of topics, media uses to control your opinion.

Some of Trump's greatest successes in building his personal wealth were achieved by getting people to do work and then refusing to pay them, buying things that he then refused to pay for and borrowing money that he then only paid back a fraction of by declaring bankruptcy - Repeatedly

Trump has made himself rich screwing over other people. Workers, suppliers, craftsmen, etc.

Everything he does is for the purpose of accumulating wealth for himself.

He'd treat the Presidency the same way.

>>694865583
the beautiful dream that will never happen

>>694877346
Who gives a fuck

He became rich. That's all that matters

>>694877096
You can't say he was reluctant at all though. If we was reluctant he wouldn't do it. There is no forcing a man to run for president, spend billions on campaigning and years of preparation, but deep down inside he doesn't want to do it.

The only reluctance would stem from words of caution by political and financial advisors.

>>694877346
Where is your evidence, NUMBERS UNDER NAMES ONLY. If this is hearsay, media rubbish or biased research. Stop spewing shit.
If you take his annual reports and you can show where the money went and where it should have gone, good job you actually have a good case. If you can contact his investors and make them testify your claim, great you have another type of evidence. If you show which businesses have been built on illegal terms (scams as you said) great now researchers can actually research your claim. But you are not just spewing shit without any backup.
Don't give me any links to media outlets. Give me numbers and names, which businesses and how he did it.

>>694876688
He's been talking about running for President for decades - He didn't just suddenly decide "I don't want to be President but somebody has to stand up for 'MERICA!"

He wanted to be George H.W. Bush's VP almost 30 years ago

>>694876385
>Capitalism failed
>0.005% Homeless in America
>Only 6% of Americans are without food
>68% of adults in America own a smart phone
>More than 90% of US homes have at least one automobile
>Currently telling me capitalism failed from a machine that would have cost thousands of dollars years ago

>>694869957
>Yes, we really do. You are a mouthbreather who cannot understand stats.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

>>694877346
Where are the proofs?

>>694868752
Shut up anon, we don't need your reason, logic and whatever the fuck the opposite of doomsaying is. This is a motherfucking Trump thread on 4chan nigger, if the world doesn't turn out like a neverending episode of 24 then what the fuck are we even doing discussing this shit?

Damn son, you make it sound like elections are a mundane affair that the average person has no business caring about!

>>694877629
Over the course of 30 or so years he has said numerous times he doesn't want to be president. OTHER PEOPLE wanted him to run. He was reluctant and said no on all those occasions. He also said he was tired of seeing the country going down the drain and getting mistreated by other countries and just taking it. After so many years he decided to stand up as a leader for the USA. But honestly, I don't think that the usa deserves this man as president. See it as a tribe, he wants to do good and knows his shit and so many people in the tribe hate him because of hearsay "evidence". Do those people really deserve to get helped?

>>694861804
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>>694877844
kek remember the "If I ran for President, I'd run as a republican. They are the dumbest voters in America."

and we've known that for decades. he didn't need to prove it again. but boy he sure did...

>>694877844
Yeah and when you say something years or even decades ago you also keep believing in them. I implied that he has been reluctant for running for so long.

>>694877805
Dude, he doesn't even deny these things

He's proud of it

He's said more than once that he likes running up debt and forcing his creditors to settle.

You're so blinded by your hatred for the media that you don't even listen/watch when they roll out actual footage of him lying or bragging about his schemes?

>>694877854
lies. the US has the largest homeless population in its history. 1 in 200 people are homeless. 1 in 100 are incarcerated. more trickle-down economics from republicans? nope. more prisons and more laws? nope.

Hillary's in. Done. End of.

Look at how blue the polls have been, for months and months.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

>>694878471
>1 in 200
Stopped reading, that could be a fucking joke.

>>694868752
BINGO

although I don't think the republicans will change their social policies for decades. from the 2012 republican autopsy: "Republicans MUST incorporate Hispanic voters, or we'll lose every time."

They don't learn lessons. And they are the white party. They are the new KKK democrats of the '50's.

>>694878596
do a little research, champ. why are you republicans so afraid of knowledge.

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No two neighbour states has the same color. What do I win?

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>>694878959
here you go

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I wonder if these idiots REALLY, TRULY believe trump will build some wall. they can't be that retarded (to think it would be built).

I mean he'd not be an emperor, if he's elected. He still has to abide by Congress, and American law.

>>694877854
>Only 6% of Americans are without food
>Only
>Only 6% of 320 million
>Only 19 million Americans are without food
>Only

Wew lad

>>694877854
Very Low Food Insecurity & Food Insecurity in the US[iv] In 2014: 48.1 million Americans lived in food insecure households, including 32.8 million adults and 15.3 million children. 14 percent of households (17.4 million households) were food insecure.

your numbers lie. you literally pulled those out of your ass.

meh, finding an HONEST trump-supporter is impossible.

>>694878959
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_color_theorem

It's like 1852 all over again.

>>694861804
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>>694878471

I'm no Hillary fan but she'll be the next President. Last shot the GOP had was getting her indicted - That didn't happen.

Most Republicans I know live in a bubble. I remember them talking about not IF Mitt Romney wins but whether he'd win by a small % or by a landslide.

The disbelief on their faces was sad. They just couldn't believe they could lose when Fox News had told them very clearly how horrible Obama was.

Now they "know" Hillary will lose to Trump because they know how voting for her would be a 3rd term of Obama and NOBODY would want THAT! Except that Obama's approval rating is in the mid-50%

But that's okay - Plenty of conspiracy theories to explain that away I'm sure.

>>694878823
Maybe I'm overly optimistic about their future?

I just assumed they'd adapt to stay relevant but I'd be happier if they went the way of the Whig party.

>>694863995
People that don't realize the circular nature of cultural change are silly. We are currently at the beginning of a counter culture as shown in Trumps surprise popularity and the whole Brexit situation. Things are starting on a new trend. The fact that most normies are now calling out BLM and SJW's in general is proof of that. Hell, even gamergate (as retarded as that shit was) was an example of the normies getting sick of the shit and starting to question the progressive ideals.
Conservatism and perhaps even some form of regression is going to take shape soon, and I doubt it will be all that pretty. That said, neither is the other side of that extreme. Either way, look for another situation of the older generation voting Trump while a large chunk of the youth does as well, but the majority of youth vote Hilary. I think we will also begin to see a breaking down of the 2 party voting as it relates to states and will start to see surprises as *blue* states vote out of character and vice versa.
Regardless, it will be a fun election to watch, and I'm pretty sure there will be some surprise support for social conservatism, which is a bit unfortunate.

>>694861804
fuck

>>694880100
That is true, but Trump is not a normal Republican.

A lot of the shit he says is flat out left wing. It gives him crossover appeal that no other republican has

>>694864854
Texas overtook California in tech industry two years ago. Old news.

>>694881482

>A lot of the shit he says is flat out left wing. It gives him crossover appeal that no other republican has

Yes, those left wing things he says give him some crossover appeal but at the cost of alienating some Republicans.

I'm betting that for every Democratic vote he gains he'll lose a Republican vote by either people not showing up to the polls, voting for Libertarian Gary Johnson or in some few cases moderate Republican women voting for Hillary.

>>694878471
1 in 200 is 0.005% you inbred.
>>694879364
http://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/impact-of-hunger/hunger-and-poverty/hunger-and-poverty-fact-sheet.html
>6 percent of households (6.9 million households) experienced very low food security.

i.e. People that are actually starving.

>>694882108
>Yes, those left wing things he says give him some crossover appeal but at the cost of alienating some Republicans.
except... no.

Because it is Trump saying it. When Trump comes out and says let's rebuild our infrastructure, and let's be less interventionist in the middle east, the right eats it up, because Trump said it.

Remember the right doesn't actually have a clue about policy substance in any way, they just run off dogma and emotional arguments and fucking christian concepts which are bullshit.

He can present a liberal point and they wouldn't even know it as liberal.

>>694882271

1 in 200 is 0.5% you complete fucking idiot.

>>694882631
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=1%2F200&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=_hCKV9fpHJOL8Qe6i5TYDg

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>>694882764

So one in 100 would be 0.01 percent? Are you a total moron or just trolling? Just to be clear here in case you are that retarded, one in 100 is one percent.