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What a joke of an election, Hillary is the antithesis of a leader, and Trump doesn't even believe in evolution. What say we start a petition to just do a national raffle for all citizens to become the next POTUS?
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>>694682149
no
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>>694682149
You could just vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson...
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>>694682149

Hey deal with it and get over it. You're a /btard and will never make a governmental change. Accept your fate and move on
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>>694682450
might as well just stay at home and masterbate
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>>694682149
>Trump doesn't even believe in evolution.

Just pretending you're right, so fucking what? None of the Founding Fathers did (as the theory didn't exist yet), and yet they somehow managed to be statesmen of ability.
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>>694682863
Are you joking with my mind right now?
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>>694682863
Just pretending that your pretending is right, it's actually kind of a big fucking deal.

I'd rather the leader of the free world be someone who's at least somewhat scientifically literate. Denying evolution given what we know today speaks volumes about one's personality and basic intelligence.
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>>694682863
I don't even have the words to explain how stupid you are.

They also didn't have electricity therefor STATESMAN!
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>>694683230
>>694683169
You didn't answer his question you just proved his point, I never even thought of his point until your response and I agree with him just because of the way you responded.

There is no effect, it didn't cure cancer, it didn't improve gas mileage, and it didn't provide an energy alternative. Belief in evolution has no bearing on human progress
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>>694683453
I am this guy >>694683515
You proved his point with your stupid rebuttal
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>>694683515
His question was, "so fucking what?"

My answer was that I consider evolution denial to be kind of a big deal. It speaks volumes as to what kind of person you are. The "usefulness" of evolution is completely beside the point. The point is that those who deny it exists are fucking idiots who shouldn't be trusted to run a country.

Fucking kill yourself for not understanding that.
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>>694683515
He does think climate change is a myth made up by China. I can't believe we're either going to have a retard or a person who tells us to check our privilege as president.
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>>694683515
I shouldn't have to explain why someone who denies Climate Change and Evolution in current year says a lot about them. Asking if I'm pretending i'm right isn't an actual question.
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>>694682149
Or you could just vote for a third party candidate they do exist you know.
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>>694682149
Adults are voting for Clinton, faggot.

Deal with it. Are you saying you can't?
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>>694683960
no they don't
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>>694683959
Who's this goddess?? :O
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>>694683860
>anyone who questions a scientific theory is an idiot

That's not a very scientific mindset. You should always be skeptical no matter how true it seems

And I don't know how evolution has any part with Trump's policies. It's not even relevant
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>>694682450
Gary Johnson takes libertarianism way to far. I know nothing about Jill Stein which makes me think that very few other people do as well, meaning she likely has exactly 0% chance of winning. Gary Johnson likely doesn't have a snoball's chance in hell either. First Past the Post is a bitch.
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>>694684075
>Adults are voting for Clinton, faggot.

Latest polls show her behind. Also, strongest support from college age morons who want free shit paid for by daddy government.

But please, lecture more. It's nice to take an excursion into a realm of fantasy from time to time.
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>>694684223
>it's OK if Trump is an anti-science retard
>I am one
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>>694684463
>Latest polls
>Rasmussen GOP cock-gobbling

pick one
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>>694684463
>durr hurr free shit

funny how you don't mind if "daddy government" wastes resources building a wall or violating people's human rights who practice Islam
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>>694684075
Hillary fucking Clinton? the person who has never taken a position that was unpopular political position on anything? NO. NEVER.

Gay marriage? The Iraq war? Libya? The TPP? Nafta? She has flip flopped on all these as soon as public opinion swung.

Remember when Bernie bullied her into $15 an hour minimum wage in a debate?
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>>694684483
>replies with ad hom

k lad. Keep projecting your own retardation onto others
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>>694684223
>It's not even relevant

I'm not going to explain for a third fucking time why it's completely relevant.

The fact that you think it's completey ok to question one of the most evidence-based, valid scientific theories known to man shows exactly how scientifically illiterate you are. You don't even understand what a scientific theory is, do you? You're either a troll, or the epitome of a trump voter. Either way, kill yourself.
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>>694684679
US residency is not a global human right
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>>694684679
Or killing children in the family of a known terrorist.
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>>694684695
If she's following the populace, wouldn't that make her an ideal representative of the US population?
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>>694684714
>ad hominem
>calls other posters retards

sure faggot
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>>694685131
No, that's not a leader.
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>>694684963
Maybe you'll learn about the 1st Amendment when summer's over and you have to go back to school summerfag
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>>694684223
You should always be skeptical within reason. Scientifically, you can't claim something is true or false without evidence. Dismissing a scientific claim without good supporting evidence is antiscientific by definition.
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>>694684981
or shitposting in the name of /pol/
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>>694684920
I think there is a pretty big difference in questioning evolution and denying it all together.
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"President Trump" just rolls off the tongue better than "President Huge fucking cunt lying sack of shit threat to national security unpatriotic whore"
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>>694685203
>constant ad hom replies

>doesn't expect to get ad hom back

Sure. Sure....wew
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>>694684695
>I haz all these "facts" about Clinton
>but I only post breitbart links

kek
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>>694685213
Someone who changes their opinions on matters when presented with new information can't be a leader?
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>>694682149
No rational or intelligent person actually believes in evolution, that's why it's a THEORY.
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>>694684679
>wastes
Oh yeah, it would just be AWFUL if we had less spics and mudslimes around.

Imagine how hard it would be to get stabbed or blown up.
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>>694684679
Someone's butthurt.

And no one has a "human right" to enter the US, faggot. Else mine are violated every single time I have to show my passport.

Fuck off, undergraduate leftust retard who wants free shit. Your perspective and knowledge are too limited to make sound political judgments. You just repeat what you're told like a brain damaged parrot.
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>>694683876

A retard or a sjw. Honestly between these two options give me the retard. There is at least some hope of talking to them and making them understand a point. The sjw is just going to cover their ears and scream about your privilege.
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>>694685374
>damage control

you're still an anti-science retard like Trump
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>>694685492
This is bait.
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>>694682149
>trump doesn't believe in evolution
i thought he wasn't a true christian
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>>694685537
another faggot who's never heard of the 1st Amendment

Good luck banning a whole culture based on their religious practices retard
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>>694685537
>still screaming like a faggot about "free shit"
>calls other posters butthurt

many keks
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>>694684920
>to question one of the most evidence-based, valid scientific theories known to man shows exactly how scientifically illiterate you are

No matter what you say, it's always good to at least question theories to tie loose ends or flaws. Being a scientist is all about being skeptical. Not all scientist circle jerking each other off in a lab

Denying Evo is a whole other thing all together, but like I said, I don't know how his view has influenced his other policies

It's a non-factor

>don't understand what a theory is
>theories are 100% right and can never be questioned. Ever.

Apparently, you don't
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>>694685488
new information? new information being what everyone else thinks instead of just instinctively knowing what is good for the general populous?

No not a leader.
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>>694685906
>Just instinctively knowing what's good for the populace.

I want a leader for this nation that weighs all the options and considers all information. Not someone who bases their decisions based on their gut and whatever rumblings that Taco Tuesday may have caused them.
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>>694685586
>damage control

What the fuck damage are you talking about, exactly?
I made my point and all I get is "b-but you're dumb"
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>>694683860
No faggot who screams about "believing in science!!1!" actually knows anything about science. Actual scientists are humble. Major theories are overturned. Discoveries turn out to be false. Discredited ideas are rehabilitated. Wven conservation of momentum is under assault these days, and NASA is desperately trying to find out exactly why.

It's a pedestrian breed of limited intellect who boils human achievement and character down to a litmus test of hold the "correct" scietific beliefs. Like yours.

>I work in a research lab
>nanophotonics
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>>694685861
alright how about being against nationwide marriage equality? He doesn't believe vaccines work? He doesn't want an option for abortion? He says a judge shouldn't be able to do his job because he's mexican? Bring back Racial profiling?
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>>694686195
oh she'll weigh the option of what makes her richer at the end of the day, you can guarantee that. I'm not saying KNOWING what to do, i'm saying to want the best for the general populous. And you have to be joking if you think she is for joe everybody.
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>>694685282
...so, the First Amendment is a global human right?

Ok, pumpkin. Whatever you say.
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>>694685721
You rant like a street preacher, or a conspiracyfag.

Congressional control over immigration is plenary. Take a minute to Google what that means.

Now think about it...

And while you're thinking about that, try to extend your zealous, ill defined, and fundamentally stupid overapplication of "duh furst amindmint!!1!" as a universal human right to, I dunno, the Second Amendment.

Does it work?
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>>694686493
>she'll weigh the option of what makes her richer at the end of the day
>joking if you think she is for joe everybody
>implying Trump will do otherwise.

You lost me there, buddy. Trump will be looking to fatten his check at every turn too. Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about you. Very few politicians do, and even fewer would make good candidates for office.
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>>694686493
and Trump will be different how?
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>>694686493
You're a dumbass if you think any politician is for Joe everybody
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>>694687223
Why? He doesn't have to get rich. He already it.

Contra Hillary Clinton, who aomehow, magically became a mega multimillionaire on a government paycheck in only 15 years. She's corrupt as fuck.
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>>694682149
The sooner.you reAlize this isnt a choice.the better you will b3 op. Hil wil win as she is backed by the establishment ( code world for nwo illuminati wat evs).
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>>694687544
"He so rich he dun need my money, he want to help me" kill yourself
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>>694687343
I'm not for Trump either. The whole election is fucked. Fuck the Republicans for leaving us with Trump, fuck the Democrats, Women, and Niggers for Hillary. Like I said,

National
Fucking
Raffle

>>694687446

When did it become so easy to just say, "We're all fucked, look out for yourself" Seriously what happened? I do believe there are some politicians who truly want to help. Bernie was probably one of them. He doesn't even want to win anymore, but he wants to keep people attention to bring more attention to trying to fix, yes I agree with you, this broken system. And what happened? He was laughed at an mock'd for trying to help everyone, as if it has become laughable to even think that someone actually wants someone who isn't themselves. It's disgusting, maybe we do deserve Hillary V Trump.
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>>694687544
>Why? He doesn't have to get rich. He already it.
Not as rich as he makes YOU think he is.
Greed has no limits when you are Trump
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>>694687544
A mega multimillionaire
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>>694682149
Gore Vidal put forward the theory that a sufficiently low voter turn-out would somehow trigger a Constitutional Convention and allow the disenfranchised to write themselves back into the game. I wish I could remember the details -- it sounded more credible while reading it than while writing about it here.
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>>694687833
Not what I said. If you're reduced to inventing your opponent's words to defeat them, you've lost. You've got nothing. Man up and admit it.

And all I asked was Why. Pathetic.
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>>694687544
>Hillary Clinton, who aomehow, magically became a mega multimillionaire
Yes, just other day TV was saying that Chelsea has a six-million-dollar condo in NYC.
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>>694687985
No, naivety is ducking stupid and a disease of the weak. We deserve better, as in no hillary, no trump and no you.
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>>694688197
I've haven't lost anything fucktard, I'm not pointlessly whining on 4chan. I'm making fun of you for doing it.
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>>694682149
That's one way to look at thing. I like to look at them as the Bold and the Brave.

Trump is bold for going the opposite way and closing the frontier with his wall to fix the illegal immigrant problematic (Maybe it will cost more short term but long term I can see this wall might make America richer and if Mexico does pay for it then it's a win/win scenario)

Clinton is the brave. She wants to win to change the mentality of a nation that is evolving at light speed. Obama was the first black president and look at how racism is affecting America right before he leave. You need to be brave to actually want to go head on into that sort of bullshit.
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>>694685530
yes, because everyone knows only mexicans and muslims can stab people. good job
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>>694688003
You have secret insider knowledge of the Trump fortune? Are all the buildings and private jets just illusions? For decades? How come no one ever thought of this until the last three months?

Or is it that the Clinton camp decided spreading rumors about Trump's wealth would be useful, just like they told everyone Obama was an African born Muslim?

Corrupt. As. Fuck.
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>>694685347
>>694685861

We were clearly talking about evolution denial you fucks. What else does it mean when a politician "questions" evolution? Are you talking about those idiots who say "hurr durr microevolution is possible but macro evolution/speciation is bullshit." That's the same goddamned thing as denial. Fucking morons.
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>>694688691
You really think that, don't you?
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>>694689013
It's entertaining how rabidly hateful you leftists get when someone questions your dogma. 500 years ago, you'd have been inquisitors. Same mentality.
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>>694689111
Yes. I think you're an idiot. Yes. I'm making fun of you. Yes. You're incoherent ramblings and back stepping can be perceived as whining. Yes, I believe this.
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>>694688998
Dumb. As. Fuck.
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>>694689386
>assuming I'm a blind, rabid, retarded lefty liberal because I value science

You're done. Bedtime.
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>>694688998
>You have secret insider knowledge of the Trump fortune?
Nope. Where are his tax returns? Every candidate since Nixon, I think has released theirs. He's hiding a lot.

>how come no one ever thought of this until the last three months?

Guess you missed the last 2 elections when the same points were raised
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>>694689548
>incoherent ramblings and back stepping

I asked "why?" You started ranting. Never actually answered the question or presented a counterargument, but are really, REALLY sure you're winning.

>can be perceived as whining

By a lunatic such as yourself, sure.

I like your passive, impotent language, BTW. It's a window to your soul. Impotent. The kind of sad, weak man who rages into his keyboard in the late hours because in your normal life, you're a weakling, foolish and small. You think that no one can tell from behind the keyboard if you're just aggressive enough.

But we can.
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>>694689013
>What else does it mean when a politician "questions" evolution?

But do you have some kind of interview to cite that directly details how Trump 100% denies Evo?

And how do you know he's not just appealing to all the Evangelical Christians in the US.

>fucking morons
Yeah, think twice, lad
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>>694682149
It'll be funny if we elect hitlery.
5 most powerful people in ze world:
Hillary Cliton
Liz Warren
Angela Merkel
Theresa May
Queen of England

lol wtf
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>>694683169
lol
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>>694682863
also julius caesar

this guy makes a good argument and is in no way missing the point.
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>>694690254
>But do you have some kind of interview to cite that directly details how Trump 100% denies Evo?

No, I don't. I don't believe he does deny evolution. This entire conversation was hypothetical. The point was that I wouldn't trust a politician who denied evolution. Read the first line in my original post >>694683230

>Just pretending your pretending is right

That = hypothetical discussion.

If you can't keep up with the conversation, don't bother posting.
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>>694690376
5 most powerful positions in the world held by old white cunts.


Oh god no.
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>>694684463

theres not a chance in hell trump wins

he's going to be beaten so badly that for years the conspiracy theory will persist that he was a clinton plant all along.

enjoy another 8 years in the political wilderness cuckservatives
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>>694685203

this


"ohhh noooooo not an adhominem"
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>>694689964

You didn't deny it. And your immediate impulse was to give me an order on what to do, to prevent my speech you dislike. You're OBVIOUSLY a leftist.

>>694689988
>Where are his tax returns?

Irrelevant to accumulated wealth. Which, if you paid any taxes, you'd know. Also, Clinton hasn't released hers. Huh.

>>694689988
>last 2 elections when the same points were raised

That he's secretly poor? Yep, new to me.
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>>694688363

in politics words like "deserve" "should" and "ought" are meaningless

there is only what was, what is and what will be

and what will be is that hillary clinton will be the next president of the united states. The republican party has only themselves to blame
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>>694690376

elizabeth warren and the queen of england on a list of the most powerful people in the world.
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>>694690955
If you could read the future like that, you wouldn't be here.

But yeah. The dumbass, spineless weaklings leading the Republican party will be to blame. But I'm sure they'll find someone else to blame.
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>>694690207
Ohhhhhhhhh, yah got me. Damn guy, you're just too smart for impotent old me. This was funny for about 5 minutes, laughing at your complete ignorance, now I'll go back to my life. Something you obviously don't have, considering you so readily defend yourself with "logic". I hope you one day realize how pathetic you are and on that day I hope you make the right choice. Enjoy your oh so assertive attitude, I'm sure it gets you laid all the time.
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>>694690865
>You didn't deny it. And your immediate impulse was to give me an order on what to do, to prevent my speech you dislike. You're OBVIOUSLY a leftist.

If I didn't staunchly believe in the protection of freedom of speech, regardless of how ridiculous it is, I wouldn't be supporting this website by being on it, you dense fuck.

Do you actually believe that I believe that an "order" I give you on /b/ of all places would be heeded? How fucking delusional are you?

>you didn't deny it

You clearly have little to no ability to understand context in written word. You're utterly pathetic. Now kill yourself. That's a fucking "order."
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>>694691263
i mean it's possible she gets hit by a bus or something

or gets caught raping the pope
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>>694690865
>>last 2 elections when the same points were raised
>That he's secretly poor? Yep, new to me.
Sorry, I'll dumb it down so you can comprehend.
His "claimed wealth" has been questioned for years. He did not provide tax returns in his previous runs for president. Proof? No. But if walks like a duck....
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>>694691298
*yawn*

Dumbass child who struggles to get laid confirmed.
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>>694690207
You asked why trump would want more money? Bruh, you already proved how dumb you are
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>>694691437

Huh. Still didn't deny it. And got pretty mad about it.

I'm sure that means my guess was patently ridiculous.

Pfft.

>staymadbro
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>>694691150
VP of USA
Queen bee tells HoL wat do & assigns new PMs

>implying some king of zimbabwe or sandy imam is more powerful
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>>694691552
"I know you are but what am I"
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>>694691713
Still not an argument.

Don't you stupid faggots realize the pay cut he'll be taking with this job? The vast sums he's already spent, personally?

And you think he's in it for the money?

And everyone is just supposed to accept this because... you say so?
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>>694691877
>"I know you are but what am I"
Trumps battle cry
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>>694691836
>VP of USA

1) lol
2) if you think the VP is "powerful," you fail at civics. It's the single most useless job in the federal government.
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>>694691761
Still didn't deny it? That's it? That's your retort?

Completely ignoring how obvious I made my position in the last two posts and your ONLY response is "y-you still didn't actually SAY you weren't one..."

I was wrong. You're beyond pathetic.
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>>694682149
>one caters to chimp out niggers and welfare scum
>one is a non establishment guy who wants to clean up this mess
Yeah, tough call
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>>694692050
>And you think he's in it for the money?

No - I think he's in it for the power. Much more dangerous of a motive, imho.
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>>694692050
Sorry, I forgot faggots on 4chan with minimum wage jobs know everything.
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>>694692050
>The vast sums he's already spent, personally?
he has spent NOTHING. He has "loaned" money to his campaigns, which will be paid back when he loses. But the trump sheep will ignore that. Again
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>>694692050
The best thing he could do is drop out right before the race. He's hardly spent a penny of his own $, and instead started a subsidiary that loans himself $ insured, accepts superpac cash, that gets reimbursed for every dime it spends. If he loses or drops out, he makes bank. Of course, the side opportunities that come with holding office are lucratice as fuck.

Hillary didn't get 35million from saving her & Bills salary.
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>>694692250
You're playing faggoty little word games to avoid having to make a clear denial, because it would be psychologically uncomfortable. And you've resorted to mockery to try to shame the questioner into retreating as part of your ploy.

Typical guilty mind behavior. Like, literally textbook.

Also, your first instict was "shut up," which is pretty typical leftist behavior.

For that matter, so is your assumption of (and deep interest in) intellectual superiority.

Conclusion: he's right, and you're just butthurt about being so accurately identified on so little evidence. It offends you to think you're predictable and pedestrian. Cuz you're a brilliant, precious snowflake.
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>>694692050
I could give you every record of how you're wrong and you'd still scream hurr durrr I know what I'm talking about cause I watched it on the news and read it in a book. You're a fucking fool and your passion is literally just manipulation, I'd feel sad for you if you weren't holding us back as a species.
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>>694692674
He forgave the loans. Was in the news weeks ago.

But the Clinton sheep ignored that.
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>>694692271
>>one is a non establishment guy who wants to clean up this mess
You truly are naive if you believe this about anyone running for office. Especially Trump
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>>694692973
So you came up with an excuse to not provide any evidence, and simply assert that you're right and anyone who disagrees is dumb.

Super persuasive. For 1st grade.
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>>694693251
My god. I pointed out that we can argue all day, but you can't fix stupid. You probably believe in god too don't you?
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>>694682615
if i won in the citizen raffle thats what i would do. vote anon 2016
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>>694693422
>we shouldn't argue anymore
>here, let me distract you with another topic that has no resolution

Lame.
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>>694682149
Honestly, I think Trump does believe in evolution. He's trying to remain well liked by the radical right. He's not an idiot like many would like to believe, he had a very successful career in business. He's like any conservative politician: he's not stupid enough to deny evolution, but he needs to pretend to in order to be elected.
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>>694693033
>the FEC showed no filing from the Trump Campaign forgiving the loan.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/after-saying-he-forgave-loans-campaign-trump-won-t-release-n601596
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>>694693049
Well he has a massive ego, as does any billionaire who gets hard over power.
His intentions are FAR better than Hillary's.
I hated Bernie but Trump and Bernie, Paul were the ones who had the best intentions.
What I was initially pointing out is Hillary is the most corrupt politician of our generation who only wants to further the BLM, welfare and globalist movement.
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>>694693684
Yes. Yes it does. God is not real. Trump doesn't give a duck about you. You're an ignoramus. Please, please fucking kill yourself.
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>>694692931
>You're playing faggoty little word games

No, I'm just refusing to play HIS game (assuming your not samefag). Hence my refusal to deny anything. Because I don't need to - I made my position clear.

>For that matter, so is your assumption of (and deep interest in) intellectual superiority.

This is beyond assumption. I am objectively intellectually superior to both of you.

>Cuz you're a brilliant, precious snowflake.

Nope - I am the same decaying organic matter as anyone else baby boy ;) I will take the brilliant part though, thanks!
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>>694686970
Check fucking mate, anon. Good job.
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>>694693749
OK. You are naive and racist. Trump stereotype confirmed.
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>>694693684
I don't need proof or argument to know you're a dumbass. That's all I needed, good night sir. Hope all your delusions *caugh*, dreams come true.
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>>694693734
...so? Public declarations of forgiveness are sufficient. Admissible to court as a statement against interest, and determinative. End of issue.

And where was this curiosity re: Clinton's scandals in changing her stance politically after certain foreign powers donated money to her foundation, or her illegal private server and mishandling of classified information, or myriad other scandals?

Oh, right. Democrat.

But Trump hasn't provided private legal paperwork (which may not yet exist) to the press, on demand. Obviously, this is a problem.
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>>694694180
>offended at racism
Bait or back to redit.
You fucking nigger.
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>>694694180
lol typical lib.
Facts are racist, logic is racist, triggered. Grow some balls. Here are more "racist facts" for your safe space.
>Hillary supports this movement
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>not supporting trump
/out/
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>>694694180
Found the sjw tumblr user. Spam scat porn.
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>>694694134
>I am objectively intellectually superior to both of you.
>I will take the brilliant part though, thanks!

Yet, you're not smart or self aware enough to realize that you just proved psychfags analysis as true and, by extension, denial fag. W2g.
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>>694694369
>...so? Public declarations of forgiveness are sufficient. Admissible to court as a statement against interest, and determinative. End of issue.
Really? Trump, the "Maybe I'll sue them" would never try to back out of something he said.
>And where was this curiosity re: Clinton's scandals in changing her stance politically after certain foreign powers donated money to her foundation, or her illegal private server and mishandling of classified information, or myriad other scandals?

So, you know my previous point is correct, so lets throw every anti hillary point out there to muddy the argument.
Typical Trump supported: Data free
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>>694682149
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE ISLAMIC TRUCK OF TOLERANCE

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POST THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD OR THE PEACE TRUCK WILL NEVER COME TO YOUR COUNTRY!
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>>694694698
How is stating facts proving your psychoanalysis true?

And would you believe that one of us is actually a practicing psychologist? You get two guesses as to which one of us that is and the first one doesn't count ;)

So go ahead - analyze some more hotshot - thrill me with your acumen ;)
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>>694694478
>>offended at racism
As I'm sure you are, but only when its against your race.

>Bait or back to redit.
Neither

>You fucking nigger.
Yup, racist confirmed
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>>694694674
>Found the sjw tumblr user. Spam scat porn.
Are you 12?
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I'm voting for the Libertarian platform of Gary Johnson and William Weld this November and here are a few reasons why:

Both Johnson and Weld are two-term Republican Governors that served in deeply Democratic states and were reelected by wider margins than their first. This alone tells me they are far more prepared for the Presidency than either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump neither of whom have served in executive office.
Johnson and Weld were able to accomplish a great deal with legislatures controlled by an opposition party. Johnson cut taxes and left the state with a budget surplus despite always building new roads and schools. His VP, Bill Weld, brought Massachusetts's unemployment from the highest of 11 industrialized states to the lowest during his tenure by similarly cutting taxes and balancing the budget. I think if either Trump or Clinton are elected, it will just be another 4 years of the President fighting with one half of Congress while nothing gets done.
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