Have you tried drugs?

I know that feel and listen to the most depressing music you can think of, sounds stupid but it will make you feel better.

hey whats up i feel kinda the same except i dont have a girlfriend. ive been feeling like shit the whole day again and yeah feelin ya

>>694431889
no, never one of those 'serious' stuff (since caffeine can also be classified as drugs). i could have easily tried marijuana when i was in 8th grade because one of my friends grew a lot of them and he even said he'll give some out to me for free but i never said yes. i kind of regret not having tried it at least a couple of times.

>>694432102
Don't listen to this guy.

However, literally forcing yourself to smile helps.

>>694432133
drugs only help you temporarily so you dont really need em, i take drugs like almost everything and they dont help shit

>>694431658
break up faggot you obviously don't like her

>>694432102
thanks but it's not really helping. trust me i've tried most of the things that people say that will help ward off depression. i've been dealing with it for more than 8 years now. as of matter of fact i was listening to simon and garfunkel's homeward bound just now. it doesn't make me feel any better but i still love the song.

>>694432133
One of my friends said that weed really helped him when he was depressed as fuck.

However, I was referring to anti depressives and stuff like that. Tried therapy?

>>694431658
Are you using you depression to hurt your girlfriend? I'm sure she sees you and wants to help but you won't let her in.

>>694432169
Literally fuck off m8 you dont kniw what you talking about, everyone I know with actual depression agrees you have to submerge yourself in it before you get through it, forcing yourself to smile sounds like something off of an american self help website. Fuck off

>>694432124
:( at least we have something in common.. cheer up man

>>694432210
it's not because i think it might help me; just that sometimes i regret not taking a chance and not having tried something new.

>>694432248
lol yeah i'll be sure to do that

>>694431658
Buffalo 66 was a dope fucking movie op, nice pic choice.

>>694432411
you can still try it, drugs are always available and you wont get addicted except if you really want to get addicted

>>694432279
ohhh yeah i went to a psychiatrist a couple of years back and took some anti depressives for a couple of months. i know that's not much but i didn't think that it was helping and i also didn't like the idea of being treated like a lunatic or some kind of crazy patient so i gave up drugs. also my parents started to see me like a fucked up person after i told them that i thought i needed to go to the hospital for help, so i guess i was kind of discouraged from that too.

>>694431658
Have you thought about making changes to your life that might not make you feel so lonely? What makes you feel alone? Lack of people caring about you? Wanting to be someone else in another situation?

>>694431658
Workout
Go on a drink
Read a book

>>694432288
Indeed, have you tried talking about it with your girlfriend?

>>694432341

The fuck are you talking about? You clearly know less than an amoeba.

Listen, smiling, even when you are sad, releases neurotransmitters related to happiness, because the body is used to releasing them when you smile. It's just a quirk of the body, I didn't say it was a cure.

Submerging yourself in it? Are you a complete fucking idiot? Depression is often caused by negative automatic thoughts and rumination contributes to that.

Introspection is good, but the difference between the two is difficult to distinguish.
Don't sit alone and wallow, even if it is tough, and I know it is, it is important to try to do the things you normally do. Like smiling, and being with friends. Also, talk with your friends about it, they might not be able to help, but it's cheaper than therapy.

>>694431658
i havent had sex in 7 years you whiny little faggot bitch

>>694432288
sadly yes i think i do hurt my girlfriend because of my depression a lot of times. i feel bad about it, i really do, and it's not like saying a couple of sorrys is going to make me forgive myself for what i've done to her in the past... but i don't know what to do. i know i love her i know that she's that one person that i care about most in the world (at least at the moment), but sometimes when i'm really depressed and i feel confused and i don't know what to do with my life or with anything anymore (i rarely fully know what i want to do but in a graver sense), i say mean things to her and tell her to leave me or things like that. i'd have to write for more than an hour to talk about all this so i'll just stop my rant here..

>>694432341
i'd have to agree with you more.

>>694432549
i know. it was like a diamond in the rough to me. i didn't know it was going to be that good but it turned out fantastic. had tears in my eyes during that scene.

>>694432718
The problem with most therapeutic drugs is that they take a while before they work. Though, don't take them if you don't like them.
However, everyone takes some form of medication, so don't think that makes you stand out. Also, it is illegal for anyone, whether companies or individuals to look at your mental health history if you don't want them to.

>>694432590
it's really hard to get marijuana where i live. at least i think? and besides i'm not really tempted to do it nowadays.

>>694433099
Look man, does it make sense that when you are sick you do things that make you more sick?

Let me answer that.

No

>>694433178
yeah it was cool too see gallo's character finally start to drop those barriers. and the strip club scene when Heart of the Sunrise by Yes starts playing.... maximum groove levels achieved

>>694433351
Dude great leap of logic but despite the fact its called a mental illness doesnt mean a dose of antibiotics clears it up, it is psychological and embracing it is in fact the first step to fixing any mental disorder. I'm an old bastard with a lot of experience with feeling like shit so please just trust me on this one.

>>694432778
i don't know why i feel lonely, that's part of the main point. i don't even know if this is what lonely is. i feel a hollow space inside me, like there's an emptiness that can never be filled. and i feel like i might have been born with that kind of emptiness. some times i feel more lonely than other times but even then i still feel this emptiness silently laying down inside me.
i don't know about wanting to be in someone else's situation though. it's not like i'm envious of someone or that there's something that i think will be the cure to all my problems; i don't know where the problem comes from and i don't know what the cure might be, or even if it exists in the first place.

>>694432843
well thank you for your shallow advice

>>694433578
Not talking about medication.

Embracing it is one thing. Sitting alone in your room listening to sad songs is just not the right way to go.

>>694433699
But im saying it really works, this isnt speculation, ive discussed it with many suffferers and have done it myself.

>>694432879
yes, she knows that i've been having hard times because of depression and she's always supportive of me. her always being beside me really helps sometimes, but apparently not today.

i think what he means is like being immersed in music, films or art to go through an emotional catharsis? i find that it kind of helps sometimes, but i think it's more of a temporary way of feeling better instead of actually handling the problem.

>>694432896
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Why not have some family time?

>>694433199
i found drugs too inhuman, if that makes sense. for me, depression hits home harder than a lot of other people, but like other people, i also feel happiness and a numerous other emotions. when i'm on drugs, i feel like i'm being forced to feel emotionless all the time. so i guess it does help not feeling THAT depressed, but it also kills my other emotions. i feel dumb and dead.

Honestly bro I feel you and to be honest we can not do much for you.. you need to open your eyes and start a new chapter, it takes time but you will make it <3

>>694433594
Maybe everyone is like that...or maybe you are looking to fill a hole that isn't there. Yea some people do fufilling stuff, but most people go to work, do what they want, go to sleep and do it again. Alot of people enjoy the small things and don't sweat existentialist crises. If you said there was nothing in this world that you enjoy id call you a lier.

>>694433546
i also liked the part where he can't stand still from the joy when buying a heart shaped cookie.

>>694433699

>This isn't speculation
>My friends and I say it works.
Literally speculation

It might just have passed by itself.

Listen man, the problem is that when you sit and ruminate about something, you start creating these negative automatic thought patterns. If you don't learn to break out of those, then the risk of a relapse increases alot. Because once you start feeling bad again, you don't know how to break out of those negative thoughts.

But if it helped you and your friends... I can't force you to stop

>>694434015
no family is not going to help. my family is one of the main reasons why my depression got worse so fast.

>>694434431
thanks i'll try

>>694434384
A lot of people say that.

And I hear that the US prescribe crazy amounts of anti depressives compared to other countries. But how about regular therapy?

>>694434449
i had similar thoughts like that too. maybe at the core, i'm no different from the other people who lead the so-called normal lives. maybe what i'm trying to do is something that can never be done, and all the other people know that instinctively or intellectually or whatever, and that's why they can go on living as if they're 'normal' human beings. maybe it could be that. i'm not sure. but i do enjoy the small things, and i have hobbies and things that i enjoy like listening to music, watching films, writing short stories or poems, or philosophy etc. but at the end of the day, i feel lost and lonely, and i feel like i don't belong anywhere in this world. i don't know why. i thought i knew why, but i don't think i do.

>>694434868
what do you mean regular therapy?

>>694435123

I think you are kinda hitting at it. But why are you looking for some answer? Some people blow themselves up in cafes looking for answers to their empty lives. I'm just as empty as everyone else. The concept of "normals" is disturbing, it sounds like you are separating yourself from the human race. You push away your GF? Are you sure you are not actively digging this hole in your life?

>>694435300
Like cognitive behavioural therapy. Interpersonal therapy. You know, sessions with a psychologist.

>>694434455
haha yeah and he buys one for that old dude and tells him not to eat it cause its for his wife.
i might be presumptuous but you interest in that movie could be a reflection of your mind atm.
like the desire for something new in your life, to make you happy again. even if you already have a gf, do something new together.
sounds gay but you know, whatever. truth is truth

>>694435965
maybe i am... maybe i am. thanks i'll have to think about that more. do you think that emptiness is itself full? in the sense that it occupies its own space by being empty?

>>694436004
i also tried that for a couple of months, but i never felt that i was actually being cared as a person with a psychiatrist or a psychologist. with my girlfriend, she doesn't really understand the state i'm usually in, but at least i can feel that she really genuinely cares about me and that fact itself is sometimes enough. maybe it's just me but i felt that the interaction that i had with psychiatrists or psychologists were not really human connections and it didn't really have an effect on me.

Hey right so I deal with depression as well, and it sounds similar to how yours is sounding. I dealt with it on my own for years, and it was tough tough tough. It ruined relationships, friend groups, family bonds, work, you name it. My degree is pretty much beyond recovery as a result of it. about 6 months ago I went into CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy) with a therapist for a few months and it helped massively. I'm by no means completely fine, I have my off days still but what it does is figure out the causes and reactions of your depression, and finds ways to combat them. For me, it was getting into a routine, getting active, and working on positive thoughts, as well as changing the people i hung out with. Look into it, OP

>>694436076
hm you might right. i'll think about that more as well. thanks

>>694436715
thanks. i'm curious about how you get along with the therapist. even after 6 months is the relationship still very business-like? one of the reasons why i couldn't bring myself to go see a therapist was that i didn't feel like he or she was genuinely trying to sympathize with me. i felt like they were trying to help me and distancing themselves from me at the same time.

>>694436234
I think you fill yourself up with whatever you serve yourself....self loathing, self sacrifice, self worth. Say someone is an adrenaline junkie and bungee jumps....they work all week and do that for themselves on the weekend. There is nothing that I do in my life that compares to that kind of rush...but it doesn't mean I need to do something that does to feel alive and fulfilled. Maybe I work all week, do nothing for myself then play 12 hours of video games and porn on the weekend. Not the most fufilling thing...but it felt kinda good. I shouldn't feel guilty about it, better than laying there and sulking.

>>694437813
well i did play don't starve for 10 hours straight yesterday so i guess i kind of know what that feels like. intellectually i think that you might be right, since i did have similar thoughts myself, but emotionally i can't say that i identify with what you say...