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Random bump

Bump for interest

Really? No interest at all? It's about what our whole existence is based on and no one gives a shit?

Also why don't they teach about this in school? Are they hiding the truth?

Bump for interest, have no idea what those are.

>>694270642
I think you're projecting to much

>>694270642
You're gonna have to explain yourself m8

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what the fuck do fractals have to do with anything but tripping? also yes, the universe is a simulation. i broke time and had it looping until i did something to progress it while in the hospital.

>>694271573
Probably too difficult for the lowlife hanging out here. Ignorance is bliss.. i guess?

Anyway. Yeah, as above so below. A lot of cultures have texts that talk about this. You need to get rid of the human made notion of "fractals" though, the universe is not made up of concepts or thoughts.

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>>694271966
Fractals (or the number phi) can be found in literally everything natural. And I mean EVERYTHING.
>clouds, trees, galaxies, every plant, every animal, the human body, cells
Fucking everything.

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>>694272281
and dmt can be found in every living thing. whoa dude!

>>694272281
Numbers are a construction of mankind's imagination. If you find them there it's because you put them there.

>>694272076
Really? I don't find it difficult to understand at all.

>You need to get rid of the human made notion of "fractals" though, the universe is not made up of concepts or thoughts.

What do you mean by that?

>>694270642
As a phd mathematician I can tell you you're thinking about this wrongly, completely wrongly, since fractals are infinitesimal and perfectly repeating whereas nothing in nature is that as there is a smallest particle

>>694270642
Pic is the surface of a Romanesco Cauliflower head. I don't think they get much business besides the college kids who wanna eat "trippy food"

>>694272407
Of course numbers themselves are a human concept but they can be used to describe natural occurring phenomenons. And this one phenomenon seems to be present in everything we know thus it is a huge mystery.

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>>694272625
>whereas nothing in nature is that as there is a smallest particle
what?

>>694272625
Obviously they aren't infinite but everything still shows the same self-similar pattern. Why is everything from living cells to galaxies formed or created the same way?

>>694272888
I think the post implies that nothing in nature is purely fractals as things get smaller in size. Atomic arrangements may look fractal, but four atoms can never make a phi ratio

>>694273046
Maybe because god exists

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>>694273046
HAHAHAHA

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>>694272441
Well, to atleast try and grasp the full meaning of it you have to spend a bit more thought on it than most people do, but whatever really.

You/OP said the universe is made up of fractals, a man made concept with a scientific basis. The nature of how fractals exist and play out in reality isn't something that can be fully comprehended I believe. We can understand some parts, but we live too short and we are still just overclocked apes. Saying "This shit right here is what the UNIVERSE is made up of" is a bit of a reach I think:)

But yeah. It's interesting. The layers of reality all exist within eachother and as I've heard somewhere- The dynamics of a an empire's rise and fall is the same as that of a pair of lovers.
In this fashion we can understand it.

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>>694272625
Do we know that there is a smallest particle? It could get infinitely smaller couldn't it?

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>>694273261
I don't think there is, they've found a new smallest particle multiple times and I doubt we're going to see the last in our lives. I don't thing anything smaller than subatomic may be useful for us, though

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>>694271573
Bro you do know pokeman go is out right? All the simple minded people are collecting em all

>>694273261
We used to think that the electron was the smallest particle, however, The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has conducted several studies with light-focused enhanced microscopes; they have confirmed your penis to be much smaller.

>>694273541
Kek. Good one I'm not even mad.

>>694272888
There is nothing infinitesimally small, as that is physically impossible.
>>694273046
most things don't exhibit that at all, some things do and they're very small scale
>>694273261
Physically impossible, regardless it's not self repeating even down to an atomic structure level, for any single object in the world, if you zoom in on any molecular structure it will not be the same. The whole idea that fractals are some mystical amazing thing is actually just funny as shit, they're just a self repeating set with an infinitesimal basis that are useful for considering things like neural networks as long as you only take specific levels of the fractal, e.g not down to an infinitesimal level.

>>694273460
Potentially not, but the smallest particle takes up finite space, not asymptotically 0, and furthermore let's just say it did to humour OP, if it did, well we've already found structures which are not fractals on any level, as in, almost every structure

>>694273240
I get what you mean but why do you think it's far fetched? Is there anything else that can be observed in everything we know? It's so strange to me that from the smallest to the biggest structures everything is somehow linked to fractals.

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ITT, OP just learnt about fractals in math class, and wants to sound like he is clever

I give this thread a 0/10

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>>694273876
Try random psychedelics from the internet and you WILL change your mind. See the truth.

>>694274003
They aren't, they literally just aren't lmao

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>>694273691
>as that is physically impossible
He says, forgetting that on both the smallest and largest known levels scale our understanding of physics (which are mostly based on Earth atmospheric and surface conditions) break down near entirely. It's why subatomics and galactic clusters are so mysterious right now.
Jesus, do you even baziga?

>>694273758
Slayer is the hardest metal

>>694274003
Because we are still a primate, just recently developing far enough to even try and science the shit out of these areas of reality and the universe. A homonid species declaring they have "solved" the universe? Really man?

>>694270642
Pi can't be found anywhere except on perfect circles

>>694274055
I've done a phd for 3 years, that's enough fucking up my brain to last a lifetime

>>694270642
"I" belive in a universal conciousness that each and everyone experiences differently
>do we all live in a simulation?
maby, there is a very good chance we will never find out. (Consider the following : humanity creates a Simulation on a Computer and the simulated starts developping a conciousness that creates another Simulation)>>694270642
>Is phi a message by "God"
"I" dont believe in a power like god, but it could be the "mathematical"system of the creator our simulation. With ours being binary for example
Its not that simple "I" know but its something to work with

>>694270642
Fractals are a meme.
Get your ass of /b and please stay the fuck away from /sci

>>694273691
>most things don't exhibit that at all
I'm pretty sure there are more things that show fractal patterns than there's things that don't
And even on a atomic scale there is fractal patterns. Small balls orbit bigger balls just like planets orbit suns.

>>694274175
There is no possible "smallest particle" because you can always cut something in half, you can always just move the decimal point in a number. Etc. That is true infinity

>>694274233
Is PhD even considered a psychadelic

>>694274175
No, "near entirely" is wrong, they break down to a very small level, near entirely is not correct, the gap between finite and infinitesimal is an unbridgable one, it is literally impossible for the size of objects to approach 0 asymptotically, in fact objects can't exist unless in certain qwark states, of which there are not infinite. Furthermore, let's assume they can be infinitesimal, we have literally reams of examples where the set is not self repeating, that is it is not a fractal set at all. This is funny to me as my undergraduate thesis was actually in fractal sets and using them as graph theory based neural networks, it literally doesn't work beyond taking a few levels of the set. And in nature almost nothing adopts this self repeating set idea, definitely not even down to a molecular level, so the OP is completely wrong

>>694273046
>Why is everything from living cells to galaxies formed or created the same way?
Because it's all made up of the same stuff in the same universe following the same laws of physics. It's why honeycombs are hexes. Hexes are a naturally efficient shape so life (bees) naturally evolved to use it. It's also why a huge hex can be seen in the swirling cloud patterns at Saturn nothern hemisphere. Same stuff, same rules, same results.

>>694274217
Pi =/= phi you idiot.

>>694274463
A. Not a fractal pattern. A fractal pattern is where literally every level is the same but smaller/larger scale.
B. Subatomic particles do not orbit each other in that way, you must have vaguely remembered something from HS physics, in which you were taught that electrons were orbitals, they aren't.
C. Even if some things are fractal based, almost 100% of things aren't, so the OP saying that everything is is completely wrong, which is the point I've been trying to make,.

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>>694270642
Are you implying I don't know my fractals you fucking cunt? I eat my atomic-O's every morning and sit under my homemade microwave-xray machine twice a day just so I can get all sub-atomic on pansies like you. My empty space will penetrate your empty space untill we are one.

>>694274664
They aren't, some things take the most optimal energy based shape, e.g. honeycombs, many things don't as they aren't a perfect system, and almost nothing on small scale appears similarly to what it does on a larger scale, ,maybe 0.000000000000000000000001% of things do, but even that's pushing it.

>>694274630
You seem to be focusing on the infinity of fractals and claim that almost nothing in nature shows that property. But almost everything in nature shows self similarity like fractals do. How is that not relevant just because it isn't infinite?

>>694274868
If subatomic articles don't orbit atoms what are they doing? Not trying to start an argument, just trying to learn something.
Also why do you think almost 100% of things aren't fractal based? I can think of more things fractal based than not.