start with green or white they are the best colors for beginners

>>693888126
which colors would be considered more advanced?

Red/Blue shenanigans are my favorite.

>>693888242
Black and Blue

>>693887591
Learn to draft if you want to have events that will not suck major dick with out an 800 buck deck.

get out of it

>>693888691
i recently did a draft and thought it was lame as shit. next time i'm just gonna save up and buy the box myself, i know it's pricey though

Play comanader very enjoyable!

>>693887591
the wizards of the coast website has some cool shit for local tourny and game nights.

>>693888242
as the other guy said black/blue. blue much more than black thought

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Play Yu-Gi-Oh! instead.

>>693888835
Buy box almost never recoups your costs. Buying singles works better 90% of the time. Draft lets you get the opens packs goodness and stable environment but if you are not used it sucks dick.

>read the fucking rules before you start playing
>also sit and watch people play
>i cannot stress this enough
>learn how the game works before you play
Magic is really fun in casual formats like EDH. You can build a cheap fun deck for like $25, or just buy a premade commander deck for ~$30. Just please learn the rules so you don't teach other people the wrong way to play. I spend half my time re-teaching people how combat and the stack works.

>>693888865
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu.
Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger
Arjun, The Shifting Flame.
All great generals.

If you want magic without the pricetag, try Epic, made by some of the same people.

Otherwise, infinite zombies. Do it.

On a realistic note, a really solid green ramp deck is fun.

I do. Get an online game and figure shit out there. Then but deck builders on Amazon. God speed bruv

>>693887591

To begin, buying "core sets" and or fat packs are ok, but avoid those and boosters once you get a base to play with.

If you're playing casual, meh.

If you want to do Friday night magic? Buy singles. It helps so you don't spend money on cards you don't need.

Join a forum like MTG Salvation and lurk the fuck out of it. Will help a LOT

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play Legacy
best format

>>693889358
>MTG Salvation
This. They have solid rulings on the weirdest interactions you will encounter.

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>>693889125

>>693889441
Quality tier 2.5 m8

>>693889441
what's legacy?

>>693887591
whatever you do dont play standard... huge waste of money

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>>693887591
Get some friends to play with. Game is boring as shit unless you go to events regularly.

magic or death niggas

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>>693887591

Personally I love green.

Mana on mana on mana. And then you get cards like (pic related) which gives you even more mana, and then you can get a card that literally turns your lands into playable creatures.

>>693887591
Quit while your ahead.
The shits expensive, may as well get into normie board/card games and play CasinoStone on your own.

>>693889713
it's where the guy with the biggest wallet wins

legacy combo

>>693889713
Legacy is a format with few card restrictions. It caters mostly to older players who have the card base or newer players with money to throw at cards. If you want casual, do EDH.

>>693888739
This. Shit is like heroin.

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>>693887591
if you play commander,buy this starter deck and use enter the battlefield effects... use dead eye navigator, pact of negation, force of will and misdirection and win easily

>>693889713
format that let's you play with all sets, although there is a banlist
>high power level
>dual land manabase
>spells better than creatures
>rare to find events unless you live in big area
>expensive as hell

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>>693887591
FNM- Friday Night Magic!

If you live in a small shit town they might not do this, but they're events held by card shops that promote playing against other players.

A TON of cringe but some good people show up.

Drafting is also pretty fun. You get boosters and play with what you get. Some faggots sneak in cards but ya know, niggers can't win unless they cheat.

Talking to shop owners or people who regularly show up will build your knowledge base on how to make an excellent deck or different modes you can play(Legacy, EDM)

>>693889125
Yu gi oh is shit now, they should've stopped adding new stuff after synchros.

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>>693889774
all that mana

commander grixis

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>>693890121
Getting an easy deck is stupid. I built my first deck and worked out the shit as I played with it.

>>693890332
grixis is terrible

You are 15 years late for Magic

>>693889774
play this fucker in french turn 3

>>693887591
Learn how to play with green and/or white.

Once you've been playing for a while and understand how everything works, ignore what everyone else says and just go with what feels like the most fun. Doesn't matter all that much if it's viable unless you're planning on competing. Pick a deck and roll with it.

Unless you're dumping a ton of cash into any format you play you are probably going to loose against most decks, regardless the format. People say you can play budget and have fun, but that doesn't mean you aren't going to lose most of the time.

It's just the way the game works.

Run Lantern Control - not the most competitive, but damn if its not fun to run

>>693887591
Blue is either gonna be your favorite or the color you hate the most. Your best bet is playing it with another color (I prefer white because control)

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Just don't. Its a lot of money if you get addicted and if you are half cool you end up having to hang out of really scrubby / gross dorks to get your fix.

Shit sucks.

You can play pauper on a budget pretty well. But, no official FNMs or anything.

>>693889441
>>693889713

Don't do this. It's the most expensive, Easily. Commander is expensive as well.

Casual Constructed is the tits IMO. Casual anything is. Commander is nice too

EDH is the shit.

>>693889125
yugioh is literally mtg for children

>>693889202
>read the fucking rules before you start playing
all the rules? or is there a starter guide?
telling someone to read all the rules is a surefire way to never get anybody new into magic

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>>693890528
Green for me.

>>693889125
quit when shaddolls came out and I don't regret it one bit tbh

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>>693890688
>most expensive
guess we're playing vintage guys

>>693890884
Most of the intro packs come with a basic rules guide. Basically, know the order of the steps, when you can do things, when you can't, how combat works, etc.

>>693890688
Vintage is the more expensive one. Legacy is cards not currently in rotation.

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play red

>>693891003
your are bad at magic. board presence means nothing to anyone who is not a retard

>>693887591
order a prerelease pack from your lgs and cry

>>693890607
i legit was worried about this

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>>693891003
My nigga

>>693891695
terrible card. this is the type of card that shows why red is the shittiest color in commander

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>>693891729
>one card
>is bad

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>>693891905
red is the chaotic neautral of mtg that is why i love

hey OP, my advice to you is to understand card advantage and resource.

you can find a lot of in depth articles online by more successful players than myself but it boils down to this:

card advantage is obviously having more cards than your opponent. When you play a spell that destroys an opponent's creature you do not increase card advantage, it remains neutral. (you spent a card, to destroy a card. you both just discarded one.) when you play a spell that destroys all creatures, if your opponent has 2+ creatures, that's advantage. (since you spent 1, to make your opponent spend 2.)

there's also things like Quality to take into account. if you spend a spell to kill three creatures, but they're all 1/1s that's not as good as saving your spell for another turn or two so that you can grab a 4/4 as well. even if it costs you some life, even killing one more creature for the card you had to use can be a huge difference.

this brings me to my next point: resource.

resource is multiple things: the cards in your hand, your battlefield, your graveyard, your deck, your life total.

being a good magic player means understanding the relationships between your resources. if your deck can abuse cards in the graveyard, then playing cards that discard from your deck is not actually depriving you of a resource as much as it is giving you resource. (yes there is a finite amount of cards in your deck but 2 cards out of a 60 card deck isn't nearly as impactful as potentially having TWO more cards you can now cast thru flashback, or resurrect from the dead.)

life is another resource and i used an example above. if you can afford to give away life to gain advantage, you should do it. but you have to be smart. know when you can give up life and when you need to give up cards/board state to protect it.

sorry that was long but once you understand the fundamentals, concepts like this are crucial.

best of luck!

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kamigawa killed magic :(

Will I get a gf if I start going to magic events?

>>693892307
used this on a 4v4 and wreked house in 1 turn

>>693891997
lets take a look
6 colorless, one green, 7 cmc,
>gives you 2/2's = to the # of forests you control
>forces you to play it in mono green to gain full potential
>2/2's are easily killed and come out to the battlefield at the same time, causes buffing effects such as door of destinies not to trigger
>sorcery speed summon, basically a shit tier creature card
> not even a creature card you can bounce and abuse to get infinite 2/2's
>kill yourself faggot.

>>693887591
One word: Slivers

Run a Blue/Black mill deck. They are pretty fun to play once you figure it out and you get the satisfaction of knowing that you will piss off everyone you play it with.

>>693892502
>4v4
How many days did the game last?

>>693892312
The real question is... Fetch lands in a mono color deck to thin your deck out?

>>693892638
You also won't win any games

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>>693892307
have you heard of bant? what is more chaotic than having infinite hp, infinite cards in hand, infinite counterspells, infinite mana, and infinite cyclonic rifts? learn to play casual scum

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ravnica

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Mono red vintage land destruction.
It's not that great of a deck, but it makes everyone want to punch me in the face, especially if I get a sol ring first turn

>>693892772
>fucking truth

>>693888835

dont buy a box, you're going to get 97% fucking garbage and 3% cards that you can actually sell, but which will be worth 1/5th of what you spent on the box. unless you get super lucky and open multiple expensive rares/mythics but that is unlikely and even if you do, you're likely to only break even or slightly profit. not worth the risk.

For $120 or whatever a box costs retail you can build anywhere from multiple casual decks, or a lot of very powerful cards.

for example if you play modern $120 can get you all of, or most of, the land base required to have the most efficient mana. you will not get anywhere NEAR that percentage of a completed modern deck by just buying a box.

standard is cheaper but cards rotate out so that $60 you spent on three planeswalkers can't be used in standard tournaments anymore in about 1.5-2 years.

ie = standard is short term cheap but you lose money on investment

modern has a higher start-up cost but cards will maintain value and usability for longer

>>693892867
>play vs mono red
>expect no land destruction
>an hero

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>>693892531
Protip: stop being a faggot and try to have fun playing a fucking card game

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>>693892791
I think America is more chaotic.

>>693887591
Avoid modern like the plauge. Way too expensive and full of neck beard elitists

>>693892758

if the only purpose of fetch lands is to thin your deck out, NO.

testing has shown there is virtually zero effect of 'thinning your deck out'.

however, paying life is definitely a noticeable consequence.

if there are other reasons for fetchlands, then yes by all means. if you're running grim lavamancer, or tarmogoyf, or some other 'graveyard matters' thing, run fetches. if you are using effects that stack the top of your deck and you don't like what you see and want to reshuffle, fetches can be good too.

don't ever run fetches to thin though. not worth the $, not worth the life.

>>693892312
so basically play with 5-10 more cards than the usual 60?

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I want to build a skeleton deck just because I hate myself

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>>693893053
Protip: When losing is fun for you, continue with your pathetic autistic attitude

>When you can't even win at a fucking card game you know you are a failure

>>693892942
>For $120 or whatever a box costs retail
Do you live in Thailand or something? Boxes cost around $90. Good advice though. I only broke even with the last few sets because I pulled some expeditions and immediately sold them.

>tcg player for singles
>or ebay if you're a complete faggot

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>>693893288
>have big hands
>can shuffle 20000 card deck

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>>693887591
Kozmo is a pretty hot deck right now
Also no matter what anybody tells you:MST does negate
>Anyone who tells you otherwise is a nigger

>>693893054
>Chaos
>Winning

Choose one

>>693893412
Having fun is an autistic attitude?
God damn I want to die

>>693893412
I almost never win at magic, but I usually have fun. Isn't that the point of playing a game?

>>693893288

no you always want exactly 60 (for constructed) it maximizes your chance of drawing your best cards consistently.

>>693893410
2 spooky 4 life

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>>693887591
Dont be a faggot and play Magic.

Rakdos (red/black) player here. I love aggro and field control. But honestly those concepts can be found in most color combos in some way. Find your style and the colors will follow. Keep in mind that the colors change their effects from time to time.

Also with style, pick a category: spells or creature heavy. I really like vampire tribe too. In case you were wondering.

>>693893415

well that's retail price after tax in my town, not sure how much boxes are elsewhere. i dont buy them so im out of the loop. last time i checked online it was like $105 but then s/h so meh

>>693893668
See>>693891897

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>>693893054
also if you want true chaos, run 5 color walkers, put in 600-700 $ in lands, God tier counterspells, doubling season, and this card.

>>693893506

It's fun in casual commander multiplayer.

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>>693893641
*rattles*

New to mtg, I play with a 92% black/ 8% white deck, win 70% of the time.

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>>693889125

As having played both, Yugioh has more deck options, has more overall playable cards unless the only mtg you play is casual.

In every way shape and form is Yugioh able to be more tactical, customized, fun, any thing you can think of.

While I play Mtg and Yugioh, those who wanna cry about new things should just play oldschool decks like I do and whip the new gen.

Rocking a Life Wyvern deck and can take on almost any other deck.

>>693893608
Winning is fun when you don't have to spend money to buy more cards. playing for free while winning is fun for anyone who is not an idiot

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>>693893861
>put in 600-700 $ in lands
Nigger my car didn't cost this much.

>>693893595
>having fun
You like losing to autists and kids don't you faggot

>>693894218
>You like losing to autists and kids
Who else plays magic?

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>>693893858
See
>>693891003

Tokens don't enter the graveyard, buddy. If you think I'm worried about MY creatures in the graveyard? Nah.

I started as a green player. I like Green. I am a Timmy and my name is actually Tim. I still play green sometimes, but my friends decks just have more answers to my threats

>>693893861
So if that gets used on my only instant card, I mill out my entire deck and lose?

>>693894057
this, go play FNM win FNM get packs, use packs to draft get more packs, build better deck for fnm.

here ya go for prices of the "best" decks and card lists

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>>693894218
No, I enjoy playing a fucking game you moron.

>>693894429
tokens do hit the graveyard when they die, its what causes death triggers. They just go poof after hitting it.

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>>693894159
>play until you figure out how the fuck to win
>make cheap deck that wins(hint, here is where the fun starts)
>save your credit from winning tournaments
>make any fun deck you want, with your winnings saved upin the shop of your choice

just be patient. you will get good lands if you save up for them

Yes.

I played when I was 18.
I quit playing when I was 19.

It was the stupidest game I ever played.
So don't get into it.

>>693894429

He'd get the life, but there's still tons of other cheap cards to answer a big dumb green monster that doesn't have haste, trample, hexproof, etc.

>>693894218

But you're proud you can beat autists and kids? A real shiny trophy in the ol' case, that.

>>693894352
>college age card sharks
>you either beat them or join them faggot
Magic is a war, and if you think war is fun, you are one of the autists/kids

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The most underrated card in the game. 9/10 world tournament decks have 4 lhanowar elves.

>>693894630

You know what I was trying to say.

>>693894871
what's a "world tournament" deck?

>>693894015
Holy fucking shit, that is the most stupid fucking thing I've read regarding both of these TCG's

No shitstain, MTG has many game formats such as legacy, modern, standard, cubes, EDH/Commander, Casual, etc.

Nothing has more customization then having many different formats of one TCG to choose from.

>>693894464
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper

>>693894855
>college age
>not kids

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>>693894441
no it just gets countered and shuffles into the deck. You use it on something like a brainstorm and hit into a dig through time / treasure cruise, or trade a shit tier planeswalker into something like this

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>>693894871

I fucking love mana dorks. Shame to see Elves go

I have multiple playsets of BoP, Sylvan Caryatid, etc

>>693894871
>underrated
>everyone uses it
I don't think you know what that means

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>>693894824
My trophy is my collection, and yes I am proud i beat them. They are the scum of the magic community and I will abuse them until the leave

>>693895099
It doesn't get countered, it gets exiled.

>>693895018
Mtg world championship? 2015 was three days winner took $50.000

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>>693895314
it gets exiled from the stack faggot, and it never resolves. it is synonomous with countering you fucking scrub

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>>693895303
Beating people until they stop playing.
Fuck you're a shit person
>welcum 2 forchan

>>693895246
Great contribution to the conversation glad to have you aboard

>>693895379
>was three days
Realistically it takes all your time to prepare for a tournament well enough to win that much. You're better off getting a job and playing magic on the side.

>>693895508
>getting exiled
>going to the graveyard
>synonymous

>>693895600
Dude.. You're wasting your breath of course it's not profit what the actual fuck

>>693895528
>I don't only beat them I have a group that meets up and targets certain people to quit the shops. Blacks, spics, high school drop outs,whiny kids, the homeless, etc

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>>693895303
>scum of the magic community

Yeah, it's those OTHER guys that are autistic...

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>>693894824
Chill dude. You're talking to some fat old neckbeard who thinks he's the smartest person in the room when magic cards start going.

That's when you know someone is just a cunt. They don't want to pass on knowledge to younger people so the game lives.

>>693895822
Love the sarcasm

ferguson

>>693895379
and which of those decks was running llanowar elves?

>>693895696
>does the spell resolve?
>yes?
>no?
>it does not get permanently exiled, read the nigger
> not all counterspells throw shit into the graveyard
>counterspell is used a blanket term
>Quit magic now, so you don't lose more money to people like me

>>693896157
WotC confirmed for racism

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>>693895850
>3895850 ▶
>>>693895303 (You)
Scum and proud of it

Don't get into it. You'll spend a lot of money really fast, and then end up not playing as much as you thought.

>>693887591
play commander (AKA EDH)

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>>693896280

>best card game

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>>693895961
> Acquiring target

>>693887591
Hi, Martin. ;)

>>693888865
ive got a brago, king eternal that hasnt lost yet out of about 12 games... i went half retard on it.. its a fun general

>>693887591
I can't make friends with anyone. Not even with the nerds at my school. When I tried starting to play this game, I got really confused because there was a lot to keep track of at once. Everyone in the game got annoyed with me and eventually I quit and left. I hate people, fuck you Brenda my name's not that funny so don't name it after fucking weed.

>>693896577
Brago is a competitive general, what combos do you use with him, and how do you cheat him into play so you get around all forms of resistance to go infinite

>>693890337
good for you

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Tromokratis is best commander

>>693891885
It's true. I gave up going to local shops because at best you will play 2-3 rounds with one chill dude who maybe works in engineering or some shit, the rest of the regulars will be autists and actual children (or both) and you won't even get good games against them because they will play like robots or ragequit after you outsmart them

Unless you're playing regularly with some friends, just play hearthstone for the "strategy card game" fix

>>693891729
lol ezuri in EDH as commander.. board presence wins.. undefeated

>>693889125
>Expensive decks: the game
Fuck that shit.

>>693897046
Mr. Teacher Oshiete no imi ka wo zore da

Kimi zo oru o du so na mi todo ima so imi ka getza wodora

>>693890337
Ok, but what is your win percentage in commander tournaments?

>>693897502
I thought the same
>went against a black deck
>had blood barron
>eathersnap
>some other counter remover shit
>shit ton of tutors and board wipes

>>693887591
hand control is field control.
when you totally dominate both, they can't do shit.
lots of rage quit.
blue is the most advanced color.

pay attention to synergy and combos.
if you going in to win tournaments, pay attention to pro tour deck lists and build your own flavor of them.

>>693887591
OP, i suggest buying cards on ebay. Also MTG Online is just as fun.

>>693887591
Dont

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>>693897657
I play with friends and occasionally at fnm.
I don't play commander much either

>>693892607
100% this.. slivers

>>693887591
learn the rules!
learn the rules that the judges learn.
learn how to judge rules like the judges.

>>693898193
fuck that, allies.

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Turn 1 Shenanigans

>>693887591
It's expensive. Very expensive. Unreasonably expensive. If you don't have a lot of extra cash just play videogames, they're wayyyyy cheaper in the long run, even if you buy new consoles and games as soon as they come out.

>>693896190
He's right though? When you talk competitive, you don't use the term "countered" when dealing with spells that exile spells from the stack. Instead you state the card used such as "Time Stopped" or "Mindbreak trapped".

>>693898193
>>693892607
Counterpoint: fuck you

>>693898052
>if you dont play in a competitive enviroment, then dont act like you know what you are talking about.
>your buddies are stupid enough to let you play you shit tier deck without disruption, so you think you can win a game
>the children i let play at the shops near me could beat without a starting hand(mulligan down to 1)

>>693898269
Also have fun and be smart with your money

serious question. What is the most annoying, rage inducing deck out there.
I want one that will make people want to leap over the table and strangle me

Learn about the stack, and when abilities/spells are pushed onto it, and when they "resolve"

Aka applied computer science

>>693898532
Blue control

>>693898532
discard mill decks piss people off

>>693898532
Lantern control, in modern

>>693898532
There are a wide array of options for that
slivers and to a lesser degree allies piss me off personally

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>>693898433
>nice dubs
> Yes, i have to use the correct terminology while I play or i will get sharked by my buds and be terminated from the tournament
>such is my curse
>however
>on 4chan, with you pathetic kids who found some cards and found the corresponding basic lands to match the "little symbols" on the upper right of each card, I dont fucking care about the cemantics.
>eat shit and die faggot

>>693898532
Lantern Control in 1v1 modern.

playing casual? run chaotic decks that includes land destruction.

>>693898532
A super quick, low-cost Red deck with nothing but haste creatures

>>693898532

use this combo >>693898420 and get Iona, Shield of Emeria

>>693898532
Vintage: bomberman (?) or the deck
Legacy: miracles or the deck
Modern: 8racks (imo)
Commander: hermit Druid or imperial animar
Standard: idk, shit format, Eldrazi planes walker combo

>>693898956
Jesus mana burn chaps my ass

>>693887591
My advice is to share that time machine you have that travels back to 1996

>>693899073
poop out inona turn 2 with exploration and elvish piper

>>693898913
What? it really just sounds like you're butthurt because you tried giving shit to someone else but can't take it when someone gives you shit.

it's either summer or you're just a faggot.

Thanks for checks

Started playing this week, in my first pack I got Terra Stomper and it's still my strongest creature.

>>693895175
I miss those little shits. My first deck and still my favorite was green hydra devo. Watching new players get visibly disheartened as you use dorks to ramp into playing around with nykthos and voyaging satyr to have more mana than you can use nearly every turn while you drop fatties like heroes bane, mistcutters, or vastwoods.

>>693899267
>If I was not butthurt i would not play magic

Make sure to read thoroughly. x2 Every single word and meaning can be crucial.

>>693898532
Turbo-fog

>>693887591
i got back into it recently, play standard unless you wanna spend a ton of money upfront to be any good in modern or commander and probably still get shit on.

3 Words anon
>Red Deck Wins

>>693899727
3 words
>You
>are
>bad

make a black blue zombie deck

Play EDH Commander.

>>693893053
>not primordial hydra
>your hydra is shit
>get gud

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Play commander, it's easily the most fun and casual format, it can also be just as expensive as you want it to be. How it works is you choose a single legendary creature to be your "commander" and you set it aside and can cast it even if it died by paying 2 more mana per death, and you can only play cards in the commander's colors. You play 99 cards excluding your commander and you can only play 1 of any non basic land card. If you want a better/more complete explanation, check here: http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php. Pic related is my commander

>>693896778
i have a no infinite rule for myself
just a lot of hexproof, unblockable, removal and instant speed return to my hand.. swiftfoot boots, etc.. no real win condition, but i dont think ive taken more than 4 damage in a game.. its fucked.. perigrine drake is my favorite, along with plaineswalkers... you blink them to reset their counters, and use a second ability

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>>693900906
>implying I don't run every hydra

>>693897721
eldrazi monument and counters bruh

>>693901288
run only primordial cause why the fuck not

>>693898532

modern lantern control for budget, vintage shops for money, or legacy stasis for unplayable pile of garbage

Just get kiki jiki mirror breaker and pestermite. Instant win.

>>693898532
A Yugioh deck. Kuriboh with Fairy Meteor Crush is a 300/200 with trample.

lookup mtggoldfish on youtube -- it's a great way to learn strategy, etc.

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Shits expensive, my gf wanted to learn but I got her into Hearthstone.

>>693887591
go for blue/black, or pure white, or red green, black green only if the card says wither or "fuck shit up"