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I am a PhD candidate at La Trobe University studying how online discussions about moral, social and political issues might have an effect on peoples’ views, attitudes and beliefs. I am focusing exclusively on 4chan, its users, and the views that are expressed on its boards (pic related, this went over reasonably well on /pol/).

>Do you think spending time on 4chan altered your perspectives?

>If this prospect interests (or irritates) you, then you may find completing my anonymous questionnaire vaguely entertaining.

I have set up a website [OPhere.net] which has all the project details, a dedicated email address to contact me, and a link to the anonymous online questionnaire. I am hoping to organise some one-on-one interviews as well, so if you would prefer to skip the prompts and just tell me your views, please do not hesitate to contact me.

This research has been granted approval by the La Trobe University Human Ethics Committee. Reference No: E16-027

>TL;DR: PhD student wants to hear your views on various social, political and moral issues.
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>>693408205
Shameless self-bump. No takers?
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good to know that La Trobe has worthless degree programs
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>>693408571
You know the uni?
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>>693408571
That and what's so worthless about studying 4chan?
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>>693408205
Go fuck yourself.
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>>693409042
For what reason?
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You'll never get any units that mean anything, 4chan is an unquantifiable, ever-changing morass of temporary content with no identities. It's not a reliable source of any type of data because by the time you refer to it as a source of data that data will have changed. /pol/'s actual view on politics is not definable and constantly fought over, that's what that board is.

Yet I suppose it's undeniable that this is the anonymous Internet in it's purest available form, this is the birthplace of very real stand alone complexes. Stand alone complexes, however, have no originator that could be discovered or quantified, no center, no reaction site. There's nothing for you here but chaos.
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>>693410126
It's not an attempt at defining 4chan, it's more about seeing if there is any serious link between the perspectives of the anon and the content on the site.
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>>693410126
And besides, there is a lot of consistency despite the ephemerality, anonymity and chaos. This place has a history and a culture.
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fuck you op and your over achieving complex to gain some modicum of self worth by thinking you are doing "revolutionary research". No matter how hard you try your mom will never approve of you.
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>>693410917
TBH I really just wanted mix what I do for fun with what I do professionally. Do something you love and never work a day etc.?
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>>693410511
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>693411349
Exactly! But behind art and fiction is an author, and they have reasons for doing what they do.
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>>693411563
You're looking in the wrong place.
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>>693408205
You gonna get memed, lad.
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>>693411775

I really don't think so. I am surprised at how few fucks are being given here.
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>>693410511

You're implying a discontinuity between anon and his content, this probably does not exist in any meaningful way. If you're looking to prove if 4chan causes "rightward" political leanings, sure, but only because the nature of 4chan promotes forbidden speech. This development I think has to do much with the interactions between liberal culture and conservative culture in the wider sphere of the real world. Vox wrote an excellent article called "The smug style of American liberalism" that outlines an evolution of liberal culture in which they find their counterparts to be unbearable, uneducated hicks as a cottage industry of anti-conservative humor pelts them from afar. In the same vein conservatives want to essentially "excommunicate" the liberal for his disrespect, his carelessness and his failure to love his country. 4chan seems to lean rightward because the right can only be loud in private, liberals have them in what amounts to the social "smoking section" as more and more "humor" becomes "proof" they're stupid. Meanwhile, Obama gets nowhere in 8 years of attempted bi-partisanship, people blame the tea party, but really it was the demand of the entire "right" they blockade everything because things are just that bad between us now. 4chan reflects this, that's why it's so vicious and strange politically.
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>>693411775
That's okay with me anon.
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>>693411997
Cheers man, this is some solid insight. Would you be willing to try the questionnaire? I have no doubt that you would have a lot of answers to my questions...
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>>693411997
Why can you people never, ever shut the fuck up about your feuds in any context, Jesus fucking a monkey Krishna nunchucks.
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>>693412359
You're that faggot who's perpetually doing a "baseball comic" aren't you?
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4chan doesn't cause right wing leanings. If you were on 4chan before 2008 you'd know this. Rather, it is a culture based on rejecting of what is now called "normie" culture. When Bush was president, the majority of posters seemed to think conservatives were idiots. However, the racism has shown to persist no matter what current counterculture leaning the average poster has.
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>>693412658
OP here. I seriously have no idea what you are referring to.

>>693412702

This is what I mean, there's a history and a culture. I hope you take a look at the survey anon.
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>>693412702
>normie
Fuck off /r9k/. You are the blogging newfag cancer.
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>>693413144
Did you miss the quotes that emphasize it's not a word I would normally use?
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Well, I tried. Imma lurk until this thread dies, so if anyone can be fucked even looking at the survey I will be here.
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>>693413418
That's no excuse for using it.
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>>693413531
It's all over 4chan, not just /r9k/...
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>>693413513
I'm replying, OP. If nothing else you can use it to show how lazy and apathetic the average user is. It's probably why most of us are still here.
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>>693413513
You shouldn't be trying to prove that 4chan effects the way people think anyway. Then even more people will try using it for that. Like that episode of Murphy Brown where they interview people in the cafe during an election. You are a destructive element.
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>>693408205
Nobody else seems to understand the question, but here's my answer:
No. 4chan doesn't make me more racist or homophobic or anti - anything.

4 chan is anonymous, people can say or do what they want without repercussions, people can pretend to be whoever they want, everyone here is more racist, homophobic, bi - curious and sicker in the head than they are irl, I doubt very many people here would post any of 'this shit' on facebook without fear of destroying their street cred.

We're just here for the lulz, it's somewhere to laugh at racist jokes, read made-up stories of incest and rape and not get found out by your peers
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>>693413645
Go fuck yourself, newfag.
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>>693413787
Thanks anon, I really appreciate it. Let me know if there are any problems with the survey.
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mayte.. your university are full of illuminatis who help other cult members to cheat and pass.


I suggest you get the fuck out of Australia, mayte. As most of them are worshiping Satan (Akadawa) in his end of times human form.

Am serious, if you want proof just focus on school of medical science and Yandy Liang (student)..

Not to mention the creepy statue of Satan and other naked people around him down building 51 I think.

Am serious man. Just get the fuck out of Australia. 7 years there seen nothing but hell. Crazy people who worship AntiChrist who pay them $ stolen from tax payers money deposited straight into their bank account.

And they really think he's God.. I mean come on anyone can learn Solomon Magic and rape few women who got lots of Quarts energy to accumulate all that much of energy right?

These Kabbalah people never left me any privacy, AFP breaking into my house... RMIT dropping Swanston ST wall on my way while driving on the road, barely passing it, they threw Kangaroo for me to crash into down 1470 Eltham RD. They did so much.

BTW.. head to "Victorian Motorcycle Wreckers" and ask Kenny if he is still interested if coming to Sharjah and molest UAE Children sponsored by Sharjah Ruler.

Please tell him to fuck off from UAE as we are sick from Australians "friends of Sharjah Ruler" coming to our country since 70s and abducting our children molesting them then returning them injected with memory loss drugs or "duub duuub duuub" memory loss spell. With left fingers ( IIII_) pointed...

am serious. just get the fuck out quickly. They will try to inject you with HIV or HepC also. Given that Mazaher was allowed to access the lap.

What's worse? hmmmmm I think girls only schools who don't wear underwear claiming Satan comes and fuck them. Yuk... for fuck sake.

But one thing I like in Australia. Asians.. they are so hot specially who look like Kei Arai.
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>>693413909
That's the thing though. Is it all just for the lulz? You have never wondered if someone has interpreted your sarcasm as real?
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>>693408205
Oh, we all congregate here starting off with opposing normie viewpoints just to challenge our perspectives! It's totally not a counterculture community that people who hate people like you go to. I hope you die in a carfire newfag
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>>693410126
what chaos? there is nothing but the same old shit posted here every day. the same threads with the same content posted and reposted ad infinitum
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>>693413909
Most of that is true, but I'd beg to differ on the opinions of 4channers. Most of us are to some degree racist, hating whatever else you want to list, but at least on /b/, you'll get called a faggot for not being racist in a crowd of racists. Once you see the amount of threads that had been posted daily(which have died down now), it seemed strange to not be unironically racist if you wanted to be in the "4chan norm".

With that said though, most of the things on /b/ are for the lulz, and that's why we stay here

>>693413513
Already answered the survey OP
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>>693414323
>sarcasm
How do you get into a PHD program without basic reading comprehension?
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>>693414450
Yet we keep coming back for that same bullshit.
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>>693408205
Do you think that the questions posed on your website might be biased, on the basis that you're a big faggot?
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>>693414567
>4chan norm
That's the stupidest shit I've read all day, and I graded papers for a high school lit class.
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>>693414567
OP here. Thanks man, I look forward to reading it!
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>>693414567
If this is the kind of faggot who answers your survey, you can't trust the data. Good, fuck you OP.
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>>693414450
It used to be different.
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>>693408205
No, 4chan hasn't altered me...but I was 40 when I started lurking here (now 50).

I would say it would have a negative effect on minors who are exposed to things they wouldn't or shouldn't see until they're older. Then again, I'm speaking as a parent that closely monitored (and blocking) what my son and step-daughter were doing online. The Internet is not a good babysitter.
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>>693414780
They are designed to respond to bias and adapt accordingly. That's why I included 'other' options everywhere.
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>>693414786
I felt stupid writing it, but it's true. There is a mentality to 4chan, and certain things are considered okay to post and not okay to post. For example, you will get berated for posting unironic feminist threads.
>>693414877
So you're saying somebody who has used 4chan for years can't be trusted because it's not your opinion
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Still taking the survey OP but I'd like to point out a trend I've noticed. Racism and homophobia on 4chan used to just be about making a joke about "others," but it seems as computers become easier to use more conservatives have found their way online. Anyways what I was going to point out is how interesting I've always thought the use of "fag" and "faggot" on here is. It used to almost be a term of endearment (we're all just a bunch of fags - be it newfags or oldfags. Or OP is always a faggot) back in the 2000s when using "gay" to mean stupid was socially acceptable. It wasn't necessarily directed at someone's sexuality but used to tie us together. However, now it seems to mostly be used by actual homophobes.
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>>693414958
Assuming you have the time, I would really like to hear more about your experiences. 10 years worth of lurking... you would have an interesting perspective.
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>>693415206
Thanks anon. I have observed much the same (hence the questions).

I wonder about the use of 'fag/faggot' too, and I have read a lot of academic writing that just assumes its all banter, but no one ever actually asks the fucking users.
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>>693415263
I can't tonight...flight home in the am. Perhaps tomorrow evening.
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>>693415158
Berated anonymously on the internet. Oh noes.
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>>693415686
Fair enough man, the website/questionnaire will still be there :)
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>>693412359

I might. Hm, how new are you? Another thing to understand is we seem to be being censored by a liberal moderation base, this has drastically affected the culture and causes the deletion of some content. Things weren't always this way, we got taken over when someone named Nick Denton who's niece threatened to kill herself during our raid on Tumblr used his power and influence to taint this place. There is a considerable disaspora to other, relatively non-censored sites the names of which are tellingly blocked from even being posted. "Our system thinks your post is spam" it will say, try it yourself.
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>>693415158
I've been here longer than you. Your opinion is wrong. And retarded.
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>>693415553
The users just call you a faggot. Because you're a faggot.
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>>693415846
OP here. Been lurking for about 6 years. There was some discussion of this in the thread I started on /pol/ too... definitely worth looking into further. Cheers.
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>>693415206
Which is really odd if you think about the sexual attitudes here. Traps and gays are pretty well accepted here. Hell, last night someone found gay porn on a good friend's computer...and was freaked out. OP was saying he couldn't be friends with a homosexual and got ripped by most everyone in the thread.

The racism though....that is more real. It's like Stormfront set up a branch on /b/
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>>693415846
Fuck off back to /qa/ with your war against the mods.
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>>693416213
>accepted
The term is "fapped to". You don't invite a hooker to the country club.
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>>693416213
I actually had a question about traps in an earlier draft of the survey. Kinda regret removing it now...
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>>693416341
So you're saying that everyone that faps is in denial.

The thread last night was a perfect example. Tons of threads about straights and bisexuals sharing gay experiences.

Yes, there is always a few critics...but most are accepting.
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>OP here.

Just had a look at the survey - thank you to the anons who had a go. Greatly appreciated!
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>>693416136

It's true. Mutiply 4chan by 2 and look there, that's the primary diaspora but there's definitely more. A lot of 4chan's older users left, frankly, I keep watching /b/ for the same reason you're studying it, it's an important site of memetic "emergence" and, well, just plain addictive. I've uh...been here since 2005, I was referred directely into /d/ by a SomethingAwful forum friend. I'd never seen so many dicks in places they don't belong. Certainly, this place has change, we hated bush-era conservatism with a passion, but now that the liberal and conservative cultures have genuinely diverged this place is a genuine battleground.

>>693416244

Oh please, you know I'm right. Moot sold this place to Mook to get back at those assholes. Mook is the only reason we can post fucking anything. Mook is a good fucking guy.
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>>693416213
I think it's interesting that trap threads used to be bait and switch. You'd post a passable trap and then reveal that they had a penis after half an hour or so. I've always wondered if that affected the sexuality of posters and if that's why there are so many more strictly porn trap threads now, or if people are just more open about their sexuality now.


Also good job hiding your Facebook picture OP but you may want to hide your relationship status to strangers.
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>>693416068
And how exactly are you able to make that assessment?
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>>693417065
Also isn't being engaged for 6 years a long time?
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>>693416972
Such shallow, transparent lies.
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>>693416440
Since we know that sexuality is more fluid than originally thought.. seems like a lot of men are experimenting with it....being aroused by feminine men. That isn't to say they'll act on it, but it's an interesting phenomena here.
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>>693408205
Aside from making me a bit more callous, giving me a set of typographical conventions to use only one one specific website, causing me to stay up late a miss a few classes, and making me a faggot, 4chan hasn't affected me at all.
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Get fucked you intellectual cunt. You're what's wrong with the world, fuck off and try get offended somewhere else.
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>>693417065
The first trap threads were just anime threads about trap characters, which inevitably included porn.
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>>693417348
Can't tell which parts of this are hyperbole, sarcasm or truth
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>>693417349
Replyng
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>>693417349
Also you're a nigger
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I did your thingy OP
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>>693417461
For a website that appears to be primarily populated by people with a tertiary education there is a surprising amount of anti-intellectual bullshit floating around.
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>>693417312
>we know that
You decided it, to justify your perversion. You shouldn't have to justify it. What's wrong with just being a pervert?
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>>693417105
It's not an assessment. It's the way it is.

4chan operates on a set of rules put together in the early-mid 2000s called the Rules of the Internet. Some are written, others are unwritten. A written rule would be, for example, OP is always a faggot. It's irrelevant what OP's sexuality is, because by the rules if one is OP, one is a faggot. An unwritten rule would be something like "you don't put quotation marks around greentext" - it's just something that shows you're new.

I'm not exactly sure how, but fag eventually became the term for 4chan user in general, with variants for different types, ie oldfag, newfag, tripfag, or summerfag. Additionally, since the board is anonymous, if you want to distinguish yourself, it's common to name yourself <something distinctive>fag. For example, I'm Jeeperfag or Musketfag depending on context.
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>>693417589
lurk moar
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>>693417589
Neither am I, and I posted it.
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>>693408205
Never heard of La Trobe.

Clearly, your shit-tier university is meaningless.

Tl;dr - go fuck yourself faggot. Do your own research. Put some work and effort so that meaningless scrap you'll get, dubbing you "doctor", servers for something other than toilet paper.
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>>693417951
OP here.

Fair play - OP is always a faggot.
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>>693418056
>wut
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>>693417928
First, I don't have to justify anything. ..there's tons of research on the issue...Google it yourself.

Secondly, traps don't excite me. I'm bi, if I'm in wanting a cock mode, I jack off to men fucking. I'm just not in denial about what I am.
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>>693418056
It's a real place, it's just not in the US.

Damn Aussies, first they take over shitposting, now they want to examine the site. It's all just wetwork man, they're casing the joint for when they pull the big heist.
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Just for the sake of conversation, you are aware of the small body of academic work that exists on topics to do with 4chan... right?
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>>693417289

It's possible to be 30 and use a computer, I know, mindblowing. Shouldn't I be married or something???? Fucking kids.
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>>693418437
Get this non Aussie fuck out of here quick
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>>693418562
It's almost a shame there are no flags next to posts on /b/
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>>693418379
Scientific facts have no part in your motivation or decision making process going into deciding to call sexuality fluid. You want to be congratulated on what you fap to, and place yourself above other perverts. Go to hell.
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>>693414323
There's a disclaimer
>Only a fool would take... blah blah blah
The stories here are works of fiction, everyone claims it happened to them this week, till the oldfag posts an earlier copypasta
I didn't mention sarcasm, so not sure where your point lies, but people will do as they will. I've never been racist, I still laugh at the stereotype nigger hate threads, but I'm not gonna start telling nigger jokes to my friends, it's not acceptable irl.
/b/ is the place to say and post things you wouldn't say or post to your friends, it's a place to share weird shit and not get judged,
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>>693418559
I'm 3 years older than you.
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>>693418092
Yup. Honestly I think this place is more or less positive, once you're cool with desensitization to porn. Especially nowadays with the gore, CP, and raid threads more or less gone, it's really just a community of nerdy perverts who share porn, stories, and advice. Honestly language is the biggest thing I've found change from the site - words like faggot or nigger are common and expected here even if you'd never say either IRL, and after using them several times over the course of a night, you start having to catch yourself before you say them during the day. But I at least don't mean any harm by it, and I doubt most others do too - I'm pretty sure most of the racism on 4chan is hugely exaggerated, and I know for sure that the homophobia on the site is purely superficial (most of 4chan is at least a little bi, so yeah...).

Really, language is the biggest thing I've seen change thanks to /b/. That and sleep schedules (and sexual preferences, but that's not what your study is about).

Also, I'm well aware this is probably b8, but eh, whatever. Got nothing better to do than explain some of the way the site works to a newfag.
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>>693419007

>/b/ is the place to say and post things you wouldn't say or post to your friends, it's a place to share weird shit and not get judged.

Wouldn't this mean a lot of people are expressing their actual views then?
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>>693419007
You can tell jokes about the word nigger irl. You just can't tell jokes about darkies if you aren't one. Which is fine. We're all niggerfaggots here.
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>>693419203
Nah. Stuff gets exaggerated. Haven't you ever listened to old dudes talk about fishing stories? It's basically the same as 4chan. The fish get bigger because people are trying to one-up each other in a very limited amount of time before they have to return to people who don't want to hear it.
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>>693419135
OP here

I reckon aspects of this are true, but it really bugs me that no one has taken the time to find out by asking the actual users. Seriously, check out what has been written on 4chan. It is almost exclusively based on analyzing the posts.
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>>693419203
It's like you have no conception of the art of trolling. You should have used reddit for your faggotry.
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>>693418884
Methinks you protest too much. Tons of research...deny all you want while you fap to traps.

Also, I don't believe in hell...but I'm sure it's comforting to your simple mind to believe in heaven, hell, Santa, and the Easter Bunny.
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>>693419438
That may well prove to be the case, and if so then that's fine. Do you think it is the same on other boards though?
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>>693419055

Okay, then, who was Saber and what did he do for the cause of lolicons on 4chan? What happened? Tell me the story, old one.
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>>693419463
Well, then I guess you're doing the Lord's work. Or Moot's work. Or Boxxy's work. Or whoever the hell the Queen is this week.
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>>693419463
I've read some of it. They don't even fact check their timelines. Junk science, basically.
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>>693419588
No idea, I really don't spend any time on other boards.
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>>693408205
fake as shit
>Latrobe is one word
>town in pa
>fuck off summerfriend
>where they used to make rolling rock
>33
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>>693419701
Very true. And they seem to think this site is run by some organization and not just shitposting individuals.
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>>693419463
>it really bugs me that no one has taken the time to find out by asking the actual users.
Fuck you. Don't study 4chan, don't ask 4chan, don't fucking post if you aren't gonna play along. Lurk moar.
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>>693419643
Sure as fuck not doing Moot's work. Something seems very dodgy about working for Google after building an anonymous image board. Well, copying one anyway.
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>>693419738
It's also a university in Melbourne, Australia.
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>>693419807
'Hivemind' comes up a lot...
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>>693419923
Yeah, Moot can die. I just wasn't sure who to sub into the expression, I haven't paid attention in a long time.
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>>693408205
self report is the least reliable of sources and it will only be worse with the self reports coming from 4 chan users
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>>693420070
Hardly. Do they actually fucking read the site? Half of it is porn and the other half is arguing.
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>>693419593
She j-j-j-jammed it in, because as a British man, she needed semen to live. This depressed Atari Dumbledore so much that she retired from killing pedophiles indefinitely.
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>>693420170
Hive mind is just supposed to be a meme posted whenever two posters make similar posts at the same time
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>>693420140
Yeah, self-reporting error is a thing, but there is really no research method that doesn't come with a bunch of drawbacks. I am conducting interviews as well to try and cross-check where possible. That and I get to have a nice chat with anons.
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>>693420031
>Australia
Oh. So it's just a joke study that no one will read. Good.
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>>693420170
It's hard to tell. A lot of it seems to have good intentions, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have literally taken everything at face value.
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>>693420335
Ah. I'm tired and don't recall seeing it, I was thinking the media was calling us the pornographic Borg.
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>>693420547
Believe it or not it really is my PhD research topic. Human research ethics approval and everything.
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>>693420606
Considering that a few years ago they were talking about "the infamous hacker known as 4chan," and wanting to talk to "the leader of Anonymous," I'd say they definitely take everything at face value. Or less.
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>>693420387
Google's browser fingerprinting in recaptcha and automatic text analysis AI have us all identified and grouped into automatically derived demographics based on what we say on 4chan and how we say it. Or anywhere that uses google services, really.
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>>693420817
I used those exact examples when proposing the project! Oh Fox news, you never fail to amuse.
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>>693420820
Well, even if I could get access to that data, I doubt I would use it, since that shit strikes me as morally dubious.
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>>693420994
It's great, isn't it? Lol.
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>>693420191

WELL I CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T LAUGH YOU GODDAMN PORKSLOPE.

>>693419807

This. It's funny, this guy is right to be interested in the ignored "haunted" gold mine where most internet culture is actually emanating from. I really couldn't give him a way to quantify it, though, if the survey gets popular at all people will just stack the survey, I do hope he knows that. He may as well have done a thesis on box jellyfish.
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>>693421163
I would like to say that I hope my research helps to reduce that kind of bullshit, but I really don't think mainstream media read academic work.
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>>693408205
Quintessentially this board is young-middle aged white dudes, that typically grow up losers. I guess because of this "oldfags" turned this shithole into their own cool club where regular people get told to fuck off because they havent browsed this shit for years. The only accepted behavior on here is racist, sexist, smug comments. You get told to "lurk moar" until you're as desensitized to strange porn and gore and faggots threatening to kill themselves, as everyone else is.
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>>693421391
>OP here

Very much expecting some serious fuckery on the questionnaire, but so far anons seem to have taken it seriously. Which I am grateful for.
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>>693421655
Was this your own experience? Or are you speaking as an oldfag?
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>>693421728
There are examples ITT of people fucking with your survey already. You don't seem to have what it takes to undertake this research.
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What the actual fuck happened? Did this thread just suddenly die?
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>>693408205
Answered survey. Bumping.

Will email you later, OP.
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>>693421437
So you want an even broader audience still to come to 4chan and shit the place up yet worse. You are the reason it sucks now. Die in a fire.
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>>693421891
Ive been using 4chan periodically since 2009, dont think anyone would consider that oldfag.
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>>693422178
>OP here,
Much appreciated, look forward to hearing from you anon!
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>>693422257
What exactly do you think I am going to do with my research?
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>>693421891
You can't tell lies from truth by the sentence construction, but software can. You're dumber than a computer, coasting on your meat privilege.
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>>693422516
Publish it. For that, you should die.
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>>693422401
Answered survey as well, will send an email too.
-Jeeper/musketfag
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>>693422353
So your saying that you play the required character when on /b/?
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>>693422632
>implying anyone gives a fuck about PhD theses
>implying you will even remember this thread in 2-3 years time when I finish the bloody thing.
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>>693422689
Stop leading the subject. If you're gonna spoil the data that much, just make something up.
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>>693422637
Awesome, thanks! You can expect a response shortly after this thread dies. lol.
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>>693422924
You have a point. That was a blatant leading question. I must be getting tired.
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>>693422812
>implying
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>>693422689
Yeah I guess. Im aware of how ridiculous the unwritten rules are here, but even I cant help but to feel superior in a minor way, to people that are obviously new. This board is mostly just a cycle, and once youve seen the cycle enough, you understand the culture and what not, and then it kinda just makes you feel at home to return. Thats why we all complain about how shitty is but usually come back.
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>>693422812
The internet nevar forgets.
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>>693423245
Also true
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>>693423241
So you primarily come back because it's familiar?
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>>693423241
Basically this. The rules are the rules and we're all pathetic enough to insult people who don't follow them, even though we have no idea why we do follow them. If a psychologist wanted, they could have a field day on here. But they'd have to lurk a long time in order to get decent data.
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>>693423245
At least she gave a time stamp. Nowadays that seems to be the hard part and not the tits.
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>>693423706
I don't think any amount of lurking will really give you much insight into the users. So much contextual interference, and the ability to troll etc.
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>>693423645
That and conveniently flowing fresh porn.
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I am also open to suggestions for better ways to get /b/ users to visit the site/ consider doing the survey.
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How many people, instead of marking 'bisexual', will write something like "straight but I'd have sex with a trap"?

>liking traps doesn't make you gay
>r-right?
>I'M NOT SAYING I DID
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>>693424439
Sorry bud. /b/ isn't the place to survery. You have to watch it play out and try your best to understand. The nature of /b/ is to not give a shit about serious inquiries and fuck around so we can giggle a little bit
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>>693417349
fa q
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>>693424804
I might have to just accept this. Still, I am optimistic that /b/ will be at least as willing as /pol/ to participate (albeit reluctantly)
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>>693408622
never heard of it, what country is it in, Belarus or something?
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>>693424791
I have seen some pretty funny responses man. All part of the charm.
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>>693424963
Australia
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>>693424947
/pol/ takes the internet seriously.
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>>693425638
Lol, this is true, but there are a lot of /b/ users... I mean a lot. One would think out of that many people at least a few will be vaguely interested.
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I'm gayer than I am black.
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Is it just me, or is /b/ a bit slow right now?
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>>693424947

as long as you're careful to explain this can't be a representative survey (because self-selection, you know enough statistics to know that right?), you can help the illuminating responses shine through once the media picks it up
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>>693414318
Copypasta: Paranoid Ausbong Edition
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>>693418437
Oh shit. Better tighten up security.
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>>693426512
I don't think its possible to do a representative survey. There does not seem to be any reliable measure of how many people use each board, not to mention how frequently. I will have to spend a lot of time providing caveats.
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>>693426512
So pick and choose responses to suit your promotional needs. Very scientific.
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>OP here
Just checked the questionnaire page - anons are still completing the questionnaire. Thank you anons.
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>>693414586
1) Do you know how much a school makes off of a PhD student?
2) Do you know how rigorous a liberal arts PhD program is?
3) Do you know how valid peer reviewed research is, based off of your answers to 1 and 2?
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>>693408205
niggers
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I can't help but respect the methodological critiques, but I am getting the impression that the majority are not keen on social scientific research.
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>>693424439
How would that be done. If anything, i see it as impossible since the intrests here are so diverse.
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>>693427757
No, not really. >>693427757, though, i cant say much other than that.
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>>693427801
The questionnaire is designed to measure (or at least indicate) the diversity of opinion. All the topics are themes every /b/ user will be familiar with.
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>>693427946
Why is that? Pretty diverse range of people on here, why do they so frequently agree that social scientific research is shit?
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>>693426855

yes, that's actually exactly what I'm saying

it's just a doctoral thesis, even niggers can get one

I mean fucking consider our student here is just going to write some bullshit about le 4chan by interpolating our responses with some other hoity-toity

3:2 odds he plans on namedropping Althusser
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>>693427011
Completing the questionnaire right now
Maybe it changes in the last questions but you ask too much questions about 4chan as a whole
Board culture is incredibly important here, I'm not the same poster on /b/ and on /wg/
I feel like this survey is asking about /pol/ more than the others boards
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>>693408205
Holy shit OP, instead of asking stupid questions (and more in summer wtf is wrong with you), lurk more

Nobody's opinions change en /b/ as you need to be a fool to take seriously anything said here. This is just a place to say whatever crap rounds your mind. The content may depend on a lot of factors, between those the timezone, the time of the year, if anything relevant happened, etc.

PS: The CP and the gore was to keep fools away, now there's only gay threads, fur threads, "I'm 15 and my life sucks", and several other crap posted by those fools.
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>>693428174
Funny you should say that. /pol/ said the exact inverse. Its a fair point though, I am tempted to redesign it to suit individual boards.

If I did though, what questions should I be asking?
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>>693428174
Forgot to say, thanks for doing the questionnaire!!
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>>693428127
It more of a "nobody gives a shit what you do" kind of thing the way i see it. Also, it may be as someone said above. Things here always change, so it wont really do you any good research on 4chan and say it is exactly how it seems, as it may have changed completely by the time you return.
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>>693420750
Slow year for pseudoscience at LaTrobe I suppose.

If you need a vignette for your dissertation, you can say that some faggot on the Internet felt the need to insult you for getting a PhD in SJWology.
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>>693428127
Also the mention that not everyone is the same, after all, this is an anonymous image board, you may see one person once, or never.
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>>693428583
Your probably right Anon. Yeah, they call it the 'moving target' problem in academic literature on topics about the internet. Well, I guess this is a longitudinal study by default, so I will get to watch the changes as they unfold. Hell, maybe there's a pattern to it.
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>>693422516
Stepping stone to tenureship?

You can keep conducting bunk studies and start writing bogus books on your bogus findings. And get paid for it. That seems like the only reason to do what you do.
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>>693428738
Ahh, this makes more sense. The assumption that sociologist = SJW.
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>>693429036
No tenure in Australia. It is notoriously difficult to earn a decent wage as an academic. I do it because I'm interested.
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>>693426818

>Using postgraduate vocabulary to give shit research a frame of positivity
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>>693414786
Please give some examples of the retarded shit you have seen Teacheranon
I must know
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>>693408571
I started lurking when I was relatively young and I think it has on one hand desensitised me in a lot of ways but on the other in retrospect I think it's really allowed me to assess situations a lot more accuratley because there is no social obligation or anything on here. I have liberal socialistic veiws which are VERY contradictory to my conservative mother and father in large part because of the attatudes on this board.The idea that ;chan makes you a bad person or negatively affects you in any big way is a fallacy I think. People with high moral ethics avoid this sight based on preconsived ideals meaning the majority of us are morally bankrupt ( which in no way is a complaint, those guys make the best threads) which is why it gets a bad wrap. Also Latrobe sucks.
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>>693428327
At the very least, next to every choice in "which board do you frequeny?" I would have added a text box for people to say Why

As for /pol/ I can give you my version of their history either by text or Skype
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>>693429143
Huh. Tenure is my main gripe with colleges/universities in the states. Maybe higher education has some validity in Australia.
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>>693429675
That is a brilliant idea, I am going to have a look and see if I can integrate it (google forms is not super flexible). Also, would love to here it anon - email is on the website.
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>>693428972
Yeah, i think someone pointed out that its more of a cycle. Good luck Anon. Although, some things may stay the same here. One good example is never-ending flow of memes.
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>>693408205
Hey Op, I did your thing
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>>693429908
Depends on what you do with your education in my experience. If you don't learn skills with any particular direction you will likely have difficulty finding a job. The quality of university education in Aus varies dramatically by department.
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>>693430337
>OP here

Cheers anon, much obliged.
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>>693430131
I'm the guy who sent the mail with Robotor 9001 as the object
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If you don't reply to this your mother will die in her sleep tonight. No immunity posts of any kind will circumvent this.
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>>693430819
Well then
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>>693430656
>OP here

Message received, cheers anon :). I will email you this evening after the thread has died. Is that cool with you?
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>>693431114
Your evening is my morning m8
I'm on CET time currently
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>>693431301
No worries, I will reply momentarily.
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>>693431430
np bro
Just remember, everything is just my opinion and can be countered
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>>693431628
Understood. Looking forward to a solid chat.
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Out of curiosity, how many /b/ users do you think would need to complete the questionnaire before it would be in the ball-park of representative? Hypothetically speaking, I don't think the figure is achievable.
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Fine, did the survey. You'll probably know which one is me.

I tried to make this point, mostly; survive this place or your ideas aren't jack shit.
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>>693433872
Thanks Anon.
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>>693408205
i did your shitty survey reeee
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>>693434003
Cheers Anon. Don't suppose you would be willing to tell me what aspects of it you found shitty? (or was it just the whole thing in general?)
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>>693433985

Might email you. But as I tried to point out before, this place is a morass, despite it's appearance of consistency I think you'll be ultimately disappointed. This really is the birthplace of stand alone complexes, these phenomena have no center. If you're expecting to reveal that 4chan is full of racist white people you'll be disappointed to discover it was never that simple.
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>>693434234
would have liked "slightly agree". there were lots of statements that have a grain of truth in them but saying "mostly agree" seems too strong.
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>>693434692
Hmm, did you end up using the 'other' option to answer? I will definitely consider increasing the range of possible answers to questions. 5 scale might be too restrictive.
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>fill the survey out as loch ness Monster like every fucking survey I do

Fucking leech doesn't even have gift cards for us. I hope you fail with your phd
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>>693434988
I did.
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>>693434635
Well this is why I am so keen on interviews. Gives me a chance to find out the different ways that people have experienced /b/ and 4chan. I have never assumed that all 4chan users are the same or that they necessarily reflect what appears on the boards. It's what got me into the project in the first place.
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>>693417349
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>>693436057
You've activated my trap card
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>>693420750
Wow, approval from a gang of fat middle aged fucks who make you change random pointless shit to make themselves look useful while not batting an overweight eyelid at the meaningless "contributions" you arbitrarily wrote about your own study so you could stroke your own pathetic shrivelled ego just like you're doing in this thread tonight.

Way to go, you fucking waste of a brain faggot.
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>>693435185

Considering it. Though I have to say the 4chan event that change my politics the most was Gamergate, I was a first-hand witness to both how much the media was willing to tell lies about us knowing we couldn't really fight back and the pro-liberal strongarm that followed. I used to be liberal, they changed all that, they told the tales about how they came for "atheism" first, it all seems so obviously aimed at white males. As does your survey, so I think you should research "critical theory" because that's what is driving most liberal opinion now despite being a cult-tier, racist theory.

Also consider being spidermanned an honor, he's the face of indignant moral outrage on /b/ these days. It means you're doing something.
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>>693437023
>OP here
Well, I would be keen to discuss your experiences of GG and media clusterfucks in general. Hmm, the survey was not intentionally oriented at white males, but I see your point...

As for the spideys? I do indeed feel honored :)
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I just compiled your questionnaire, nigger
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>>693408205
Get a real degree and stop wasting grant money on dumb bullshit, faggot.
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>>693411997
> 4chan
> right-wing
> retard detected

> probably just newfag who thinks 4chan is right wing because trump

4chan is as left leaning as it gets in socialist countries. The whole fact of us all having an equal voice here despite our socio-economic situations. Thats equalitarianism. Not really what right-wingers try to push in the usa.

Ethically: 4chan constantly posts incest, furry, shota, loli, trap, gay, black women, asian women, hentei. These are never ending. Show this to a conservative and he would die. Moreover, 4chan isnt actually racist or misogynistic. This has been well explained in the past, its just vocabulary. Most people on this board believe in egalitarianism which stems from the way this board is as an anonymous cesspool.

Tl:dr theres nothing right wing or conservative about 4chan. This anon is 12 and gay. Hes also retarded and doesnt understand politics nor 4chan.
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>>693438124

I see no socialism in 4chan. More like libertarianism/anarchism.
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>>693438021
Cheers Anon!
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>>693438408
Wait till you read it, nignog
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>>693438359
Social libertarianism and socialism is the same because socialism tends to a self governing body once communism is fully instituted. This is what we have. We had a ruler put down a few arbitrary rules and then ran with it to create our own ungoverned system.

But there is no way you can say 4chan is right wing. People whobare right wing and on here are just closet homosexuals looking for an escape.

Every other thread is left wing.
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