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>>693252136
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>>693251886
This was a good thread

>>693252653
/good thread

>>693251886
/thread

>>693251886
Fbpb

>>693252653
/good thread

>>693251695
Yes
#AbortWhiteBoys

>>693252653
/good thread

>>693251695
Hell no... if they were, the would not need to look for oppression in their life with a metaphorical magnifying glass and would not have the privilege to scream and holler about it.

>>693251695
Nope they just make shit up to get free shit like niggers.

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>>693251695
>why do so many feminists have fishmouth syndrome
Observations about why feminists are so deformed looking:

1) They're almost all fat. Not fat in a stuff-face-all-day-every-day sort of way, just fat in an I've-come-to-accept-my-body sort of way. Fat acceptance is the symptom, feminism is the disease.
2) The herd mentality led them to all dye their hair and/or get the bull dyke analog of Buddy Holly glasses. They spend too much time with one another and not around pretty girls, who they hate due to deep rooted insecurity, jealousy and resentment (despite the refrain of body acceptance).
3) They're all pale for their respective races, including the darker skinned girls. These are the female equivalent of neckbeads; too much time spent on Jezebel and feminist forums, not enough time exposed to sunlight. Too much sun ages the skin but modest exposure to sunlight gives the skin a healthy glow.
4) Their eyes betray bad intentions. I'm reminded of a line from Fight Club: "She's a predator posing as a house pet." You can see serious mental illness oozing out of their every pore, smile or no smile.
5) Danger signalling is more obvious in the 21st century. Women have always been mentally ill, emotionally unstable creatures but they're better now than ever before at signalling the danger imminent to anyone who crosses their path. Everything about these women screams "STAY AWAY!" Pic related.

While these observations address the principle of the question, they're not definitive. A concise, definitive answer to the question is simply "They're deformed because they're not only allowed to be deformed but are celebrated for their deformity."

ITT: Men's Rights Advocates Prove Themselves Immune To Their Own Irony. (Details at eleven.)

>>693251695
Like the loons you posted say they are? No. This isn't to say there are no matters of inequality that remain to be resolved but in order for progress to be made women need to acknowledge that whatever you may call the social establishment (eg Patriarchy) is also oppresive of men. Men are to a large extent reduced to their material success, burdened and denied in many of the same dimensions that many feminists seek to elevate women out of and generally seen as interchangeable and disposable, derided as oppresors when most often they're as much victims as you could pose women to be.

IMHO it is true many areas of inequality do remain for women, but looking at it as a zero sum game in which men must be made to yield is counterproductive and self defeating. Those who fight for the rights of women need to look beyond the liberation of women and into the advancement of men as well, and not merely as reflection of what some ideologues imagine is best for women but in terms that are fair and dignified and small boys are already being treated as potentially dangerous animals...

To some extent, yes, women still aren't fully equal. However, it's nowhere near the level that these retarded cunts claim it is, so I'm gonna say no.

>>693253465
Lets hear to what extent women don't have equal rights?

>>693253222
...and that does not result in small boys being treated... Man, it's late...

>>693253637
Oh they have equal rights, they just lack the thick skin and perserverance of men. That's why they can never truly be equal: They generally don't understand how the world works.

>>693253162
MRAs are as bad as radical feminists...

>>693253222
Small boys, much like pit bull terriers, are exactly as dangerous as those who raise them.

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>>693251695
1. There is a gender system

Males and females are socialized into masculinities and femininities. Masculine and feminine behavior is not simply determined by biology.

2. The gender system is damaging

Masculinities and femininities can be damaging and dehumanizing to both males and females.

3. Women are oppressed

Women have suffered various types of systematic mistreatment throughout history, and continue to do so in the present. This mistreatment is unjust. If it can be called “oppression,” then women suffer gender oppression.

4. Sexism exists

Sexism—hateful, contemptuous, bigoted, or discriminatory attitudes based on sex—is real. Sexism can be institutionalized socially and politically. The feminist identification and critique of misogyny has mitigated it to a degree, though institutionalized misogyny still exists.

5. Males have unjust advantages

Males have some systematic advantages over females that they do not have a right to.

6. Marginalization of the experience of women

Prior to feminism, the experience of women was marginalized in academic and scientific disciplines, and in public discourse.

7. Sexuality involves power dynamics

Under the gender system at least, sexuality is intertwined with power dynamics. E.g. male-dominant, female-submissive, and male-active, female-passive. These power dynamics are not limited to heterosexuality. The link between power dynamics and sexuality can be damaging to people.

8. There is something wrong with pornography

Pornography can be dehumanizing toward both its users and towards its participants. Even if pornography can be defended on legal grounds, these liberal arguments doesn’t protect it from moral critique.

9. There is intersectionality of oppression

Gender oppression and oppression based on race, sexual orientation, or class, can combine multiplicatively (and sometime supramultiplicatively) into oppression that is more than the sum of its parts.

>>693253637
Women will not have equal rights to men until they dominate society for the same length of time that men did. And by dominate I mean get whatever they want with no consequence as reparations for something or another because sexism.

Oppressed with success, maybe

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>>693254040
This is the essence of ignorance

>>693254040
That's like allowing the jews to kill a bunch of germans for revenge. It fixes nothing.

>>693251886
A bit late to the party but
>/thread

>>693253969
Pop a few watermelons out your urethra and raise them to be stellar adults before you say women are thin skinned and lack "perserverance(sic.)"

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>>693251695
I don't know if you're serious, but they don't have to wear trash bags over their faces like the Middle East, and they aren't subjugated to genial mutilation like Africa. They can vote, they get paid the same as men (despite popular belief), and they have the freedom to choose to live their entire lives bitching about how they think men control everything.

>>693254040
>as reparations for something or another because sexism

how are you assholes not seeing this? i understood you /b/rother even i these retards thought you were serious

>>693253996
Nice bait... It would be comforting to assume you're as stupid as to believe the members of your own species are your natural enemies, what's left? Solanas' lesbian utopia?

I happen to own a pit bull btw, didn't choose the race just gave a chance to a stray that otherwise would be dead now, she was almost in the bones when we took HER in. SHE is a very loving and gentle creature as it turns out...

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>>693254402

Except single mothers are detrimental to a child's health and well-being.
A woman can't survive in a competitive environment, that's why she's thin skinned. It has nothing to do with false analogies. Nice knighting though, I hope your neckbeard grows into a full one someday ;)

>>693254662
(re: Your pit bull anecdote.) My point, exactly.

>>693254402
>Pop a few watermelons out your urethra
>urethra

You first, also a nut kick is more painful on a pain scale than child birth.

>raise them to be stellar adults

Just because you got knocked up by a nigger doesnt mean men dont know what it means to raise a child.

>>693254749
now im not that guy who thinks that going through something theyve been doing for millions of years makes them tough, but the reason women are weak willed (in general, of course there are exceptions) is because thats how theyve been raised. we teach our daughters that they dont need to be as good as men, because theyre women, so of course they won't be. but of course women dont want to see girls go through the harsh treatment boys can get, so it won't fix itself

What is reality?

>>693254749
Dan Quayle? Is that you?

>>693254031
I bet a million dollars that you're a straight, white, cis male.


Black, bisexual, cis female here. I'm an MRA, all of the things you have said are lies. Kill yourself, inhuman scum.

>>693255131
video games

>>693255100
>women dont want to see girls go through the harsh treatment boys can get, so it won't fix itself

Hence the SJW movement in the western world to prevent anyone from experiencing reality. Cant rise up the ranks? Bring the top crashing down.

>>693255210
>female here
tgtfo

>>693254999
A single nutkick hurts more than labor lasting for 12 to 36 (or more) hours? Really, now?
Tell me more about the miracles of childbirth.

>>693255210
Tits or get the fuck out

I for one, fully support modern Feminism. As a result I hope to get my dick wet a few times. If I am unfortunate enough to have a son, I will teach him the same but to such an extreme that he will not want to have sex with girls out of guilt. I will do this because fuck him for wanting to bang young hot pieces of ass that I cant get.

>>693255522
see, thids is prof of rap cultrue :/
stop being an oppressive shitlrod and supproto whomens rights!!!!!

>>693255100
You are touching upon an important point here: How we treat girls and boys differently. I honestly believe that women can get along with men just fine, and can be just as tough, but I don't think the "We give birth" argument is valid because it doesn't concern how we act towards one another. Men get drafted, women go to war, it's not an equal analogy.
The problem with modern day feminism is that it has its root in a victim mentality, that women should be treated differently and be coddled, and that is something they're raised to do, I completely agree on that, and I think the only way to truly make men and women equal is to not coddle them the way we do.
However, this has a lot to do with biology, and that's why it's so hard.

Women on the internet get a fair share of stupid shit thrown at them (Get back in the kitchen kek) and such, and while I hate to see that, that is the shit men get all the time, we just learn not to take it personally because we're taught not to.

I know plenty of strong, fun women and the one thing they all have in common is a biting wit and a logical mind that can fire back instead of retreating to a safe space if someone's being mean. These millennials lack that, and that's why we have this discussion to begin with.

And while I'm at it: If you want respect, earn it. Don't demand it, earn it.

>>693252653
Good thread!

>>693255895
*womyns

>>693255895

Shhhh I still do not see a picture of your chocolate chips

>>693254031

>Rhetorics

But then again, is the best you can get from a feminist.

>>693255210
by claiming that you are a MRA, you do acknowledge norms created by sexes, which you try and fight against, which makes you a feminist by definition.

lel

white women in the western world are by FAR the least "oppressed"

>>693251886
/thread

>>693255822

B-but anon, how can you fuck smelly landwhales??!!

>>693256015
*Wyverns

>>693256190
Just drill a new hole, duh

>>693256093
i hate you dipshits so much quit with the bullshit do you not know what the prefix FEM means well it has to do with FEMALE

>>693255543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJeuK1Pl2bQ

TLDW - pain is objective and we dont want to piss off those pussies with pussies, so we will call it a tie.

>>693254031
>Males have unjust advantages
In the western world name a single one

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>>693256254
Damn straight, been awhile since ive heard that word

>>693251695
The fact that they have the opportunity to bitch and moan on a public stage means they're not actually repressed

>>693255543
Becausr after they recover from childbirth many women say to themselves "hey I want to do that again"

Guys never say that after a kick to the nuts, except the freako perverts.

>>693256307
ouu ouu can i try is being mutilated an unjust advantage

seriously i fucking hate these idiots they know nothing about the world around them and are more childish then actual fucking children

>>693256254
Wyverns?! Are you implying 3rd Wave Feminism is a Welsh concept?! I may have to take offense with that, very poetically of course.

>>693255543
alright this is the best thing i could find, probably because anyone that tries to put facts to "anti-feminist" shit is labelled sexist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJeuK1Pl2bQ
let me sum it up, SHIT HURTS, EVERYONE FEELS PAIN, MUCH OW

>>693256401
Nah, thats not true. They are not oppressed because they are women, they are oppressed in exactly the same way men are. Both can bitch and moan on a public stage but that doesnt change the fact that we are all sheep.

>>693256436
(Assuming you're the person I replied to previously:) Sorry, which of your earlier points are you proving there? that women aren't thick skinned, or that they can't stick it out through hard things?

>>693251695
No, most of them are basically the female counterpart of /r9k/.They are angry at the world because no one wants them, so they lash out

Then there are the clever ones like Sarkesian and Quin, who i suspect don't really give two shits about feminism, they just happen to earn a shitload of money by fooling the tumblr plebs

>>693253066
Second from right... who is she? Any nudes?

>>693251695
Yes they are. Everyone is oppressed; so no they aren't

>>693256436
>>693256886
maybe i can clear something up here, when a woman is going through labor, the brain releases a buttload of endorphins. i can not even express how fucking swamped their brain gets telling them that its a good thing its absurd

>>693256886
The one that I quoted dipshit

>>693256886
>which of your earlier points are you proving there? that women aren't thick skinned, or that they can't stick it out through hard things

All three. The two you asked and the third being that women are retarded and unable to follow a conversation that isnt about them specifically as an individual as you demonstrated with your question.

>>693256614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LE32Riyugg
guy shoots himself in the leg and walks off more agitated than in pain, yet, should he get kicked in the nuts, he would be completely immobilized by the pure pain. So to figure out which is worse, we need to shoot a woman in the leg and see how she reacts.
/shitpostoftheday

>>693257244
So you're either not the same person who said "women have thin skins," etc, or you're completely missing the double standard you've set up there.

>>693251695
this is a thread to start in /pol/, friend

can we point out the elephant in the room you know the one crushing everybody to fucking death
if any stupid bitchy feminist says women are oppressed i have but 3 words for them
male
genital
MUTILATION

>>693257501
heh. cute. I bet you're a hit on the dance floor, too.

>>693257763
for real, people dont even fucking take the systematic mutilation seriously i for one am fucking appalled. imagine if i tried to cut the lips off a baby girls vagina, i would go to jail

>>693257763
Boo.
Fucking.
HOO.

It's supposed to make it last longer in bed. (Though, obviously, it failed in your case.)

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>>693257919
what makes it even worse is the people who do the same to women in Africa and Egypt have the same "reasons" for doing the fucking shit

with shit like it looks nicer or she will thank me or no man would ever want her like that and then when you point this out to circ fetish freaks they turn tail and run

>>693258074
poor quality bait

>>693258125
(See? This thread is positively dripping with Irony. I for one am having so much fun!)

>>693254985
what is your point if you care to spell it out? That boys should be raised without the influence of men? I made it a point to concede we don't have full equality, I also pointed out that without addressing men's issues (and I'm not MRA BTW) equality could never be achieved. In order for women to integrate as full equals they must also renounce their part in the oppresion of men, not simply tilt the power dynamic in their way.

>>693251695
White women are the most advantaged. Ironic they're the most vocal at being a victim.

>>693258074
oh nice strawman did you use hay or arts and crafts supplies oh and ad hominem to boot wonderful

seriously shut up your making yourself look like a dammed fool and are only furthering my point

oh and go trying to say the same about fgm watch as the angry mob comes to burn you to fucking cinders

>>693255210
Why would an MRA use the term "cis"? I think you overreached...

>>693258311
Aww come on- that was calamari! That's great bait if you're going after cuttlefish or shaved eels...

>>693251695
Fuck no. The biggest difference is more like a 2 cent pay gap and if anything women get more right over rape cases, child support and whatever the fuck else

>>693256093
Feminism doesn't have a monopoly on gender equality.

>>693258588
literally, and i mean literally, any time it comes to punishments women get off easier, and i challenge anyone to prove me wrong.

They all have fish mouth syndrome because breathing through your mouth prevents air flowing through your brain properly thus making you retarded.

>>693258459
Strawman? Don't you mean Half-A-Straw-Man?

That was a straight up troll, anyway. Dude, just be thankful that you weren't experimented on like us poor government goon babies in the 70s, and thank whatever Gods you have your damn dicks are still there at all.

>>693256663
Correct, we are all sheep - however, that is irrelevant

To be truly oppressed, they would have no voice

In other words, you wouldn't even know they existed

>>693254402
I dont see many stellar adults coming out anytime soon. Just some kids that are plenty stupid.

>>693258910
Nah, thats an outdated myth used to perpetuate the illusion of freedom. Its better to let the sheep bleep from the mountaintop about BS and let them get a small win from time to time to feel like they have power than take away the illusion that they have no power whatsoever.

>>693255919
>fun women

>>693258873
i won't thank anything for shit i will fight till this is gone or im dead

>>693259038
I don't know if that's entirely fair. Perhaps the stellar ones just don't show up on the 'chan?

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>>693258322
What am I suppose to see?

>>693259325
1000000% this

>>693251695
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBGU_VTHEJA

Stay woke, fam

>>693259287
it is a tiny piece of loose skin, for goffsake. Is it really worth dying over? I mean, if it is, that's cool and all, just can't say as I particularly miss my foreskin. I don't get phantom pain for it or anything. Sure, I never got to star in "Uncut Boys 14: Full Throttle," but life is just like that.

>>693251695
In the way my girlfriend was declined a job interview because she recently gave birth, yes there is inequality and oppression.

In the way these trolls scream they have the right to be, no they are not oppressed.

>>693259658
Ten bucks says Seth got paid more than Amy for that shit storm. I will only pay out 7 bucks if you are a bitch but you will pay me 13 if I win.

>>693259892
>declined a job interview

No, she wasnt declined. She didnt earn it and without an interview you have no fucking reason to claim to know why and any potential employer would never know she was a new mother. If she put "hurr de hurr, Im a new mother hire me and give me maternity leave" they she didnt get called because shes a fucking obvious leach.

>>693259892
how would the employer even know she had a new kid?
>>693259854
we should probably cut off noses and ears too, pinky toes, nipples on men, and im sure we can think of more unnecessary parts

>>693254031
>supramultiplicatively

That word doesn't mean what you think it means. Nice bait though.

>>693260335
Pretty sure you're using a slippery slope/false equivalency style hyperbole there. Not terribly convincing. I do agree it is troubling that we (as the Abrahamic West, not We as in you and me,) feel unnecessary elective surgery w/o consent is ever a good idea. However, it really is just a flap of skin with an incidental attachment to the Seat of All Manly Power. If it was anywhere else on the body, would this seriously even be an issue?
(Also, just asking out of pure curiosity, this isn't an anti-Semitic thing, right?)

>>693254031
Therefore, go into the kitchen and make us a sandwich.

>>693259892
The way to resolve this scenario is, as some European countries have done, to grant fathers paternal leave. If you're as likely to have an employee taking time for family regardless of gender you disapear the incentive to discriminate. Arguably, and this may have ocured in your friend's case, some may feel women with children will not be as comited to their job as men. That requires cultural change however, not only in the sense that you need to educate employers but you need to stop investing women's self image so heavily on motherhood. Having said that while this is discrimination it isn't quite the same as talking about the sort of opression women experience in Muslim countries, it makes you sound ridiculously conceited to talk about this in such terms. You can be denied a job interview for any number of insanely unfair reasons. Some affect men, a previous suicide atempt, which men are statistically much more exposed to, can lock you out of any number of positions. Would you consider that opression? Because it certainly is discrimination.

>>693260976
it desensitizes the head of the penis for no reason, causes severe pain to an infant, and serves no real purpose anymore. have you ever been uncomfortable because your head was rubbing against your underwear or pants? thats not supposed to happen

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>>693261260
(That last part touches on the realm of perceptions and preconceptions of 'mental fitness,' and is a seriously messy and polarizing topic, easily as contentious as feminist issues, and is likely the more difficult nut to crack in the long run.)

>>693251886
/thread

Hey. Let me explain the situation in a nutshell:

>human beings have bodies
>bodies happen to differ
>sex is the most extreme difference dividing humanity into two sets, a male and female one
>culture springs into being, based on concrete circumstances, therefore deeply based in this primal truth of biological difference
>the west goes idiotic somewhere during the renaissance ultimatively resulting in french revolution and all these humanrights ideologies
>humanity drifts further and further from biological facts
>switches language for reality, creates concept of 'gender' (which is a purely lingusitics concept)
>whines about how 'genders' (which are nonexistant) are equal
>...but let us observe another couple of facts:
>since male is the active principle, one who rules and governs it is excusively his fault women went mad
>women are tender beings and should be dealt with accordingly
>all of you faggots who hate women do so because you're 30 old faggots who live with their parents, not your fault

>whoever is being agressive to women is as anti-biologically biased as the feminists

>thus spake anon

>>693261895
>thus spake anon

Stopped reading your retarded rant there

>>693261572
but I don't get it caught in zippers. There are trade-offs in everything.
Also, you're fixating on your wang and the wangs of others, instead of the broader ideas of invasiveness and lack of consent.

>>693262038
lol you sure showed him reading until the end

>>693251695
None of this matters. Just avoid the people that you don't like.

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>>693260976
>I like to sound reasonable at first talking about logical fallacies.
>then I like to try and indirectly imply that you are a racist at the end.
>much smart
>such changing hearts and minds

>>693262065
ive gotten my dick stuck in zippers a few times
lack of consent isnt the problem because people perceive it as a medical procedure, that is being done to help prevent infection. as long as it can be rationalized as "good" for the child consent is never the problem

>>693262116
i was told segregation is bad

>>693261895
-what the fuck did I just read? More importantly, WHY?

I'm glad I popped in to see the first bit of this thread.

>>693251695
no middle class white women are the most privileged group on the entire planet

>>693253066

Not even gonna lie, I'm pretty fucking content with that explination. Nicertainly logic /b/ro

>>693262237
>lack of consent isnt the problem because people perceive it as a medical procedure

>lack of nigger slaves isnt the problem because people perceive it as normal. *southerners pre civil war

>as long as it can be rationalized as "good" consent is never the problem

Do I seriously have to explain the problem with this?

>>693261895
samefag speaks:

>to conclude the matter:
>feminism is a feral impulse for true natural treatment of women gone horribly wrong (have you ever noticed the fact that women can almost never express what is their problem, or do so with your, male help?)

>every ideology that negates biological facts is doomed to fail, so will feminism

>treat women like a true alpha should for her and your own health

>>693262554
>lack of *consent of nigger slaves

>>693262554
because its a fucking infant you moron. you will never convince anyone that an infant is capable of informed consent on any topic

>>693262307
I fail to see where I've been unclear, do try to explain

>>693262208
Yeah, I actually meant that question straight up. You never know in here. If I had been implying, I would have done it as a separate post, like any respectable troll. Anyone reading that into it can work that out with their own conscience; none of my biz what you think if you don't tell me.

>>693262655
>because its a fucking nigger you moron. you will never convince anyone that a nigger is capable of informed consent on any topic

mkay, pol may agree with you

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>>693262554
I like this guy, uses partial quotes, cherrypicks and changes the subject and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>693252707
lold

>>693258074
As long as it's done early it does nothing, good or ill. Dozens of studies show this. You guys are faggots.

>>693251695
nope they just say it for attention

>>693262739
and now youre not even trying

>>693254031
tell this to your ovary cists and disbalanced hormones (in case you're femanon)

in case you are a regular anon, I would like to point out that you sir are a grand faggot

>>693261734
Here's the thing, you do have to crack that nut if you want to achieve full equality. The system's carrot for men is largely access to intimacy and partnership with women. A succesful man can practically have any woman he wants, a deadbeat is doomed to loneliness and involuntary celibacy. women don't have to make money to prove they're responsible suitable partners, much less to have sex. And men live in social isolation, unlike women who do build emotional support networks more easily and do not get so heavily penalized for displays of emotion. It's all intertwined, women's liberation in the West has for the most part reached those objectives it can acomplish without changing the system's fundamentals. And rewriting those mores can't be done with the sole benefit of women as a purpose. Feminism must go from an image of equality that takes man as a standard, that is to acquire for women the same advantages and privileges as men, and move into creating a new standard that's acceptable for all human beings. Equality in which men remain burdened is no equality, and this has become aparent in some small areas of society. The bias against men in child custody cases is a visible example but there are others, and it is this tone deafness that has created a backlash against feminism that does not come from traditionalists or social conservatives. MGTOWs and MRAs, while despicable, are only the other side of the coin to the man hating rad feminism.

>>693258255
Female circumcision is nothing like male circumcision. To make them equitable you would have to cut off the whole dick, or just the "hood" of the clit.

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>>693262554
So what you are saying is black people are children? not adults?

>>693262847
oh it DOESNT expose the head of the penis, slowly depriving sensitivity?

>>693251886
/thread

>>693262655
did you ever pause to consider that might be part of my point? You know, circumcision in many non-Western cultures is done as a right of passage upon maturity. It's an honor to get your thingy cut up. Proves you can take anything.

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>>693262038
Kek, gg anon.

>>693251886
Triggered

>>693263046
gehste hin, neger?

>>693263039
>non-western
yea thats not what we're talking about
if your point is we should let the kids wait until they can make the decision on their own i agree with you 100%
and im saying the problem is people view it as a medical procedure, so they dont feel bad making that decision for their kids, same as getting vaccines

>>693261572
Ther "desensitization" is undone by puberty. There is a reason cutfags last the same in bed. The body makes up for it. Remember sexual pleasure =/= sensitivity. If it did rubbing you cheek would be a much better way to fap. And when it comes to the brain it doesn't gaf. Scans have shown that people who can obtain pure mental orgasms experience the same pleasure as "physical" organisms.

>>693263255
I have something better to do, than watching the fishmouth people circlejerk themselves.

>>693263263
sounds like you are an anti vaxxer aka mentally retarded

>>693262796
Thanks /b/ro

>>693262869
Seriously? Im TWD (trolling while drunk) but I thought that was the best comment I made in this thread. The non trolling point was that people have the right to make their own decisions and that infants are to be protected, not having lifelong consequences forced on them through those who should protect them using slavery as hyperbole.

>>693262969
(Well, according to the founding fathers, he'd be 3/5ths right...)

>>693263481
you know full well that isnt what i said or meant

>>693263039
No sane adult who's had a Western education will willingly subject himself to circumcision as an adult. The only examples are generally extreme (eg conversion to Judaism) as an uncut man myself I find the practice of mutilation, given it's absolutely unnecessary and does have effects (most importantly desensitization of the glans) as absolutely barbaric. The practice has it's roots in the West in trying to prevent masturbation, not hygiene.

>>693262981
Not unless you traverse the wild tundra without any pants. And honestly the head was never my most pleasurable part of my dick (I'm un-cut, but I prefer the area just below the head and the base)

>>693263514
comparing an unneeded medical treatment to vaccination, sounds like it retard

>>693254402
Urethra? Agh

>>693263407
i agree that a large portion of sexual pleasure is mental, but it definitely is not all of it, or people wouldn't mind wearing condoms

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>>693254402
you've given birth through your urethra? that's incredible.

>>693257201
Can you explain how everyone's oppressed in western society?

>>693253066
some nice parallels here, even if bait

>>693263642
only white men are oppressed in western society, due to women and brown people pretty simple sis

>>693251886
/thread

>>693263464
haste angst, neger?

>>693258125
I never understood why arguing is a bad thing, anywhere.

>>693261895
>>693262561

>P.S. feminists are simply misguided beings lost in their fictive world of grammar

>>693263536
now i want to get something out of the way now, ive been cut since birth, you havent, so neither of us knows what the other is feeling. what i can say with certainty is there are parts of my head that are less sensitive than others, and have been my entire life. i know that throughout my life i have had problems with my dick rubbing against my jeans, one time to the point i went to the doctor and they essentially told me to stop whining and it would pass.

>>693251886
/thread

>>693263631
(I said urethra because men don't have vajayjays, doofus. Do try to keep up.)

>>693263577
im saying people view it as if it was a vaccination, you know something needed for the health of your child

>>693263642
>cant keep money earned as a birth right
>cant own land, only rent and it will be taken by force if rent is not payed
>must follow laws that the ruling class doesnt

>>693263611
That because they compare it to their "best". Just like food to a baby. If you give them something good, they now hate most baby food. Same reason if you get cut later in life you are fucked. The best is always the best to your brain when it comes to pleasure. That's why when you have a male whether you choose to get him cut or not at birth you are basically choosing for him either way.

>>693263983
(the urethra is nowhere near as elastic as the cervix, doofus. do try to keep up)

>>693251886
/slicedbread

>>693258684
You're preaching to the choir mate. Well maybe not now summer is open us

>>693263928
My head also has sensitive/not sensitive parts. The downside is the really sensitive parts don't feel good. They just make me feel like I have to piss or something, I don't really know how to describe it. It kinda hurts I guess.

>>693258684
But when it comes to pleasure, men always get off easier so its a fair trade right?

>>693264065
i understand what youre saying, and it seems to me like we can agree the procedure is unnecessary and should not be done at birth. is that the case?

>>693258345
what feminists need to renounce is the pussy pass. but no, instead they want to close all the women's prisons and put more men in jail. for equality, lol.

>>693264114
...Not that anon, but did you really compare a urethra to a vagina?

>>693264245
i wouldn't say so you have to listen to them talk and have opinions pretty fucking difficult imo.

>>693264221
well im definitely not the right one to talk about it being oversensitive, i love being overstimulated right after climax, but you seem like a cool dude, enjoy your hoodie

>>693263642
I can (not samefag).

It is fairly simple.This is a likely scenario:

What have you been doing in your life up to now? Let us suppose you're under thirty. You spent 12 - 16 years in a nonfunctional education system, possibly without learning any true skill to survive. Most of jobs that are available to you make you spend most of your waking hours working for some minimum, SELLING your PRECIOUS time, which is also running out (death is imminent), for money to buy food to be able to work more. This disables you to truly take care of your possible family one day. You make some kids, then you and your wife go working for whole days, thus being forced to give your children to some state care (kindergarten then school and such), disabling you to ever spend time with them. Yes, you are opressed and you are opressing your offspring, unintentionaly.

>>693264297
to show how dumb they were, if you look at the quotes they started it>>693254402

>>693254402
you are aware that vag's are biologically designed and purpose made to give birth right?

popping a watermelon out of a urethra is clearly unnatural and not the intended use of a urethral.

Stop trying to act like giving birth is some unnatural, "omg this never happens and only I have to suffer this horrible, unknowable pain". Its not cruel and unusual. Its not a crazy torture technique. Giving birth is the most natural and normal thing on the planet.

Trying to act like youre tough because your body does what its designed to do

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>>693251695
Not really.

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I first encountered Tumblr-esque feminism in my first year of middle school and it depressed the fuck out of me. But then I realized I didn't feel oppressed until the books TOLD me to feel oppressed, and I got the fuck over it. I think seriously believing radical feminism as an adult requires you to be paranoid or depressed to a degree where your view of the world has been completely warped. So they annoy the fuck out of me, and drown out the more reasonable arguments for men's/women's rights, but I can't help but feel a little sorry for them at the same time.

>>693263983
men don't have vaginas? so your analogy was as shit as the rest of your thinking.

>>693264114
But men don't have a cervix, and therefore it is not a useful tool for male visualization. Sure, I grossly oversimplified it. This is 4chan, after all. The fact remains, men (myself included) are never going to feel what it is like to have a child come out of their body, and therefore should not diminish the experience for some silly rhetoric gain or one-upmanship.

>>693264253
I think if done, it should only be done at birth. It has very few upsides (slightly less risk of STIs and if you would have had a medical problem that would have required it to be removed you are saved) however it also has downsides (they can fuck it up, maybe a bit less pleasure). Overall it doesn't really matter imo if you get it or not. It won't really change things in the long run. So, in a convoluted way, I am saying it is more or less unnecessary. Also I forgot to say this in the last post but I do agree that physical stimulation is important. Though I don't know how to have mental orgasms so my opinion may be bias.

>>693264421
Bullshit, we just need a $15 min wage and unemployment equal or greater than that and we can all fly on private jets, own yachts, eat steak and lobster and put our 27 kids through college. This is a basic human right.

>>693264594
i understand, noone should try to diminish the pain of another person, regardless of amount of pain or gender. you should see someone in pain, recognize "oh shit theyre in pain" and do what you can to help them. in this case giving birth, in a hospital, with painkillers, is about as much help as we can give

>>693264359
Thanks anon, enjoy your kink. I think /gif/ had a thread on it involving japs. May still be up.

>>693259892
>Employer exercising to hire whom ever the fuck he wants.
>Muh oppression.

I always decline females between the age of 30 and 40 because it costs me more to pay them when they are away for maternity leave and find a replacement. It is also unpredictable creating extra costs. Do you even capitalism bro?

>>693264639
okay we can definitely agree its not needed. can we then agree then cutting off pieces of a baby for no reason is bad?

>>693264457
Good point.

>>693264749
awww yeaa, they have that one with regularity

>>693264594
And women, like yourself even if you self identify only will never know the the feeling of being drafted into a war and dying.

>>693264473
Strawman harder. Seriously. I have a pretty good idea you know exactly what I was going for with my analogy, and are quite literally 'cock-blocking' like a fiend in a vain attempt to make my Jimmies rustle. (Sorry to disappoint; they are quite chill.)

>>693264861
taking a shit is a better analogy.
imagine taking the biggest shit of your life, so big it tears your ass. so big that doctors will inject drugs directly into your spine and give you months off of work.

>>693264594
and feminists don't diminish male suffering "for some silly rhetoric gain" almost incessantly? There are dozens of internet vendors selling "male tears" products right now as a direct result of men finally pointing out that it's not all skittles and beer being a man. where is the equivalent male coffee mug that won't get somebody fired?

>>693254031
Low quality bait.

>>693264848
1) sorry to disappoint, but I'm male, and
2) Selective Service is already reviewing the draft question for women, so don't bet on it.

>>693264801
For no reason, yes. But like I said there are some minor reasons. And due to how undeveloped the brain is no real psychological consequences are had despite the lack of a sympathetic nervous system. But if there were no upsides, or major downsides, I would agree 100% that it should be illegal. So cutting off a finger for example would be bad. Or a toe. Or eyelid. Etc. But making it so they can't grow hair on their legs or something wouldn't really matter.

>>693259892
"girlfriend" gave birth, well son there is your problem women giving birth to bastards is more than enough reason not to hire them they can't seem to follow through with commitment and being unmarried have a greater likelyhood of having to leave or not show up to work due to lack of a spouse to take care of children, single mothers are gross and women who have children outside of marriage are what produced this generation of shit tier men and retard(read as muslim) tier women.

>>693264705
See? You need some 'wages' to pass kids through the 'college'. Surreal. You will die one day, knowing you spent your whole life working for some 'wages' for 'colleges' and to buy food filled with antibiotics and pesticides. Perhaps you will think yourself happy and content? Yes, we are opressed.

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Goring does not approve of this bitch

In a way, yes. But not how they make it out to be. There are better problems in this world they could be putting their time into

> ITT: one anon made a comment about women being thin-skinned because of their misconception of how the world works and then some fat autistic fag pretending to be a femanon goes full retard over: muh childbirth=thick skinned and men can't understand the pain, even though that has nothing to do with anything and just needs an excuse to put brackets in every fucking post. Also in the thread is some actual intellectual conversation.

TL;DR: Thread should've died at the first /thread

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>>693263902
>zero accountability due to anony moose
>you can make points and people can just ignore them straight up or just fuck off, and you can re-enter a debate completely off course from the beginning, avoiding things you don't want to address.
>nobody on /b/ argues in good faith
>dick swinging is as valid as any formally laid out point
>most likely a troll
>no information to be gained about opposition >no strengthening of your argument through debate
and
>more likely misinformation gained about opposition to an idea you may hold.
>false sense of strength of your argument when all you did was fight strawmen and phantom trolls.

tl;dr nothing to learn about a topic through "arguing" on /b/

If you except all those things, sure argue on /b/ and have fun, but never for a second think that an argument on /b/ validates anything.

Better just to troll with bullshit and half-logic for lulz. Points are dumb.

>>693265138
http://www.circumcision.org/benefits.htm
this says it alot better than i can in one post

>>693264775
See? That is where all goes wrong. We do not respect basic facts of life, and the most basic is biology.

But yes, employers do have the right to accept or refuse whomever they want to.

This whole culture is the problem, where people grow up in deep disrespect for life, feminist or not.

>>693265503
stop imposing your warped world views on decent human beings kike shill

There's no real systemic oppression of women in our society. Individual oppression? Absolutely. There will always be. The problem comes when a small business owner doesn't hire women or something and suddenly it's proof of some huge conspiracy to oppress all women in all jobs everywhere. I know plenty of very successful women. They realize life doesn't hand you everything. Getting passed up for a promotion or opportunity isn't a product of gender, it's a product of whether you not you can kiss as much ass as everyone else. Boo hoo. Equality means everyone's life sucks.

>>693264457
Dude, if you're lonely and just want to talk, I'm here for ya. You don't have to do the tsundere personal attack flag route. I'm easy!
(Also, it's obvious to any simpleton that I was quoting >>693253969, who misspelled perseverance.)

>>693265587
in the same way single mothers don't respect life by bringing children into a world where they can not be properly raised and cared for.

>>693263896
Nö, wenig Zeit, gehst du hin?

>>693254304
tbh plenty of problems wil be fixd if we kill all jews

>>693263983
>vajayjays
Kys

>>693251886
/toast

>>693265586
UTIs aren't the main thing they are for, and don't go to a 3rd world doc. But that's not the point. The point is there are benefits, but they are only minor (don't need to clean as often for example). On the flip side, unless you are a retard, the risks/downsides are also almost nil (assuming its done young). In the end it doesn't matter. It's a very minor thing. Get one for your kid if you want, don't if you don't. It really makes no difference. There are no good arguments for or against it.

>>693265587
We already got too many humans on this planet anyway and I, as an employer, have the inalienable right to hire or not hire whomever I want, because it is my business. Employees get compensated for their work and therefore there is no slave relations (as some moronic marxists imply).

>>693251886
good post

>>693251695
Fuck no. If anything, they are the oppressors.

>>693251695
No, if they really were they tell the guy to fuck off and not post about it on twitter like a fucking attention whore they are.

>>693265853
>kys
Kill yourself.

>>693265853
"Vajayjays" gets me a 'kill yourself?' in /b/?

>laughs himself half to death

>>693263697
Yeah I was just asking incase you were full red pill. There's seeing how feminism is bad and there's full conspiratard

>>693265978
kys

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>>693253162

>>693265745

That is another problem, truly, also a cultural one. We make people think they can't do without sex and then wonder how come women give birth to children into such a world. INB4 condompills whining.

It isn't impossible to take care of female workers, and I personally believe it is ones truly ethical employers duty. It only means getting a yacht a year or two later. Big deal.

>>693265890
if there are no good arguments for it, thats the best argument against it i can think of. in what world is it okay to see someone mutilating children and just go "eh, dont see why not"

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>>693265978
>kys
>Kill yourself.
don't be hater.

>>693266069
Doubling down on newfagatory is one way to go I suppose...

>>693266098
It is impossible to take care of them when you look at the alternative of hiring an employee that doesn't pump out babies and ask for the gubments monies

>>693264015
I'd agree with those points. Wouldn't really call that oppression though

>>693265781
oh my fucking god.. this can't be true

>>693266098
>take care of female workers with kids through unearned money
>still pay male workers shit while requiring them to send half their income to females who cant be bothered to work

>equality

>>693265965
The irony is that non-oppressed landwhales bitch and moan whereas normal chicks aren't afraid to say fuck off
They choose to roll down the path of oppression

>>693266053
Nigga you been eating the fucking cheerios out of shillary's ass haven't you calm down on the roll nigga and suck a fat cock

>>693266268
she probably just got married after highschool

>>693266202
kys