do it pussy

>>693163790
do it with a sword or knife, prove even more of a point

>>693163790
Take a muzzleloader and try to kill as many people as possible. That is the type of weapon used when the gun laws were made.

Anyways I don't get why so many people really care about how Amerijews kill each other as long as noone starts this shit in Europe I don't mind.

>>693164063
This

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>>693164063
>prove even more of a point

>>693164411
heh

>>693164411
Lick my chili ring, Carlos

>>693163790
I think you meant to say "assult weapon." An "assault rifile" requires select-fire, which is usually illegal in the United States. For example, an AR-15 is not an assault rifle, because it only shoots semi-automatic.

>>693164063
This.

>plus you could do much more damage with a truck filled with explosives, than any type of gun could do.

>>693163790
Bitch please, by the time you start shooting everyone will be running and you wouldnt be able to hit anything right just by luck, i doubt you could make 5 headshots after the first

go out in the woods, cut some wood to make a bow and a bunch of arrows.

>>693163790
Use your fists pussy

>>693164955
as if it was that easy

>>693163790
There already have been mass shootings with bolt rifles.

And pistols would be better. The VA Tech (old US record) shooter only used pistols. The Orlando shooter only had pistols for most of the shooting (AR jammed).

>>693164063
There was a mass murder with machetes in China a few years ago. I think 29 people were killed.

>>693164204
Have you forgotten about Brevik and the massive shootings in Paris?

>>693164950

This.

>>693166085
It doesn't count if the government does it

>>693164950
Unless he goes to a gay bar, traps a ton of people in there, and shoots them one by one. He would only need a knife for back up if charged.

>>693164950
That's why they have training.
>not OP

>>693166180
Ha

>>693166180
What? It was Muslims you peabrain.

>>693166161

2 events in wildly different countries, over years VS hundreds of mass shootings just THIS YEAR in 1 country. Lol you amerilards are funny when you try to be smart.

>>693165807
It's not that hard. Do like 30 minutes of research on DIY bows and arrows.

>>693165970
Yeah, 32 dead. 2 pistols. Hundreds of round of ammo.

>>693166485
>hundreds

That's counting nigger gang shootings you fucking retard.

And you need multiple countries to compare Europe to a country the size of US you fucking shitbrained faggot.

>>693166487
except for the fact that i'm a woodworker
you won't make a bow like that with green wood
have you made one yourself?

>>693166485
Holy shit you are stupid.

>>693164950
Shitty shitty bait

>>693166161
You absolutely miss the point. It is not impossible to get guns here but just a lot harder. That criminals will allways get guns is out of question but people that are mentally not stable (eg. columbine) won't get them unless they really plan their shit and even than chances of getting caught meanwhile are a lot higher than in the US.

My point is that US law are outdated and need replacement in my opinion.

>>693167253
And opinion discarded
Go pay your tv license, be careful what you write on social media, and maintain your royalty peasant

you would get destroyed

>>693167109
Bait. But still true

>>693164204
>Amerijews
>European countries don't even want to be a part of Europe.
>Cucked beyond belief by the BBC brainwashing schemes

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>>693164063
Happened in Sweden this spring, Some beta /pol/ guy wen't on a stabbing spree in a daycare dressed as a hybrid between Darth Vader and an SS commando. He managed to kill 3 or something I think.

>>693167253
I didn't mention my personal beliefs at all. I would support some added measures in US background checks; however, an assault rifle ban is illogical and a silly place to start. Pistols are just as capable of piling up large body counts in close quarters with unarmored targets. So mass shootings by assholes who want to kill people regardless of how they accomplish it shouldn't be what we use as examples to influence our gun laws.

>>693166706
You're right, Europa as a continent has more citizens than the US and still lower gun related homicides.

>>693167618
Not really. Let us ignore he mentioned headshots and talk about bolt actions.
>the moment you start firing people will scatter
True, but unlike a .223, any bolt action in a higher caliber will be able to pass through multiple people and have a longer range. Bolt actions are also good at making you concealed. The only noise comes out of the barrel, this makes your location harder to be identified. So instead of rolling into the club, you can post up outside and pick people off for quite awhile.

>>693164863
Because everybody knows, you need full auto or burst fire to classify as an assault rifle. Fucking idiot

Use a flintlock

>>693167848
Pretty much this. You end up playing whack-a-mole and given how hard it is to pass any gun laws, you're in for an uphill battle after each new weapon du jour shows up after a mass shooting.

>>693168305
Yes you do. Otherwise it is a modern sporting rifle

>>693167515
Why so hostile when someone points out a flaw in an argument. I did not say guns should be banned I just sayed the laws are very old and should be somewhat renewed if that is a word.

I am not necessarily a supporter of paying TV licesnse but at the moment the programs I get for my money are nice. In Germany you can write whatever the fuck you want on social media and you will be flamed just as much as in the US (eg. third wave feminism). When your posts are deleted from FB for example that has nothing to do with European laws but with the companies faggotry. Only thing forbidden here is acting against the country which applies for America as well.

>>693163790
Nice Kar98

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>acquire crossbow w/ scope
> go to a park where there aren't too many people
>hide somewhere
>Start picking people of that are kind of isolated
>You may have to change Position
Good luck anon

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>>693167986

>>693166824
Yessir. All you need is STRIPS of wood, tied together for the bow.

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>>693163790
Your accuracy in call of Duty isn't reflective of how well your aim is in real life. Quite being a Wow World at War fag.

>>693168656
>german
>freedom
Pick one m8, germany is so fucked when it comes to personal liberties

>>693168132
Seeing from that point, maybe you could kill more for the fact that you could stay hidden longer. But an assault rifle would make a lot more kills per minute don't you agree?

Also captcha asked for sandviches

>>693169197
They're a lot better than they used to be.

>>693168887
Doesn't provide evidence to your point, burger. He said as a sheer number, not per million. Brevik alone pretty much alone caused the Norway number

>>693168846
Or just do it over an extended period.

There's no reason these autist mass murders wouldn't just switch to more of a serial killer style if we made laws preventing them from doing it en masse.

More of a DC sniper situation.

>>693168656
>Why so hostile
Welcome to the internet, where everybody hate eachother for every single mistake

>>693163790

youd have to be extremely well praticed to accurately fire a bolt action WW2 era rifle at anything above 15 RPM

you'll probably kill 3 people at most before the potential victims realise what youre armed with and beat the shit outta you while you fumble with a new clip

do it with a pump action shotty or pistol instead

>>693169434
You don't have a very strong grasp on statistics or mathematics in general do you?

>>693168887
France and Belgium both were attacked by ISIS. Norway by a right wing extremist.
I am surprised that the USA ranks comparably low here. Still Countries with high gun regulation laws like Germany and England rank below the US.

What counts as mass shooting here?

>>693169218
I dont agree, because hitting a target does equal to a kill especially when shooting .223. That bullet is likely to maim not kill, if it was a different caliber i might agree that a semi auto would do more damge. Look at omar, kill 49 wounded about that many as well.

>>693168846
Crossbows make a lot of noise, this ain't no video game

>>693169798
In America? Like three people getting shot, so gang violence gets lumped in

>>693164950
This
Why don't people see one guy fucking shooting and bum rush him but literally just hide in fear even though it would take like 5 people to just grab him and hold him

>>693164932
>not just splitting atoms of molecules

>>693169798
I believe, a crowded area with civillians would be the minimum required

>>693163790
Want to really impress me? Do it with a blunderbuss

>>693169825
Yeah that seems about right.
Now thinking about that maybe bombs would be way more efficient

>>693169714
Semi-auto rifles and pistols still need magazine changes, that didn't give anyone an opportunity to stop the shooters using those weapons. He could just have two bolt action rifles (a second only used if someome charges when changing mags on the first), or even just have a knife or bayonet for that situation.

I'm not purposely giving ideas BTW just pointing out how it is possible. I'm probably on some watch list now.

>>693164863
I think you meant a semi-auto rifle. Not an assault weapon. Assault weapon is a term the government made to make the guns sound 'dangerous'

>>693170014
>not collapsing a star on itself

>>693169901
Compared to a gun, in a crowded (usually loud) area, no it doesnt make that much of a noise.

>>693169197
Only things I can think of we are not allowed to do is buy guns without a license. We can drink beer earlier drive as fast as we want. Give some examples to proofe your point fag.

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>>693170294
>not dividing by zero

>>693168305
Look up the definition of an assault rifle. BY DEFINITION, it must contain select-fire.

"Assault weapon" is another story.

>>693168560
Ikr.

>>693170237
Honestly, yes. In omar's case, what he shouldve done was block off all but one exit, and set fire to the place and shoot people as they run out. Than have explosives for when the cops come.

>>693163790
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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>>693163790
OP, the media and the Jews will cover it up. They will say,

'My suspect in question was reported by the ________ Police Dept that he was using a Mosin Nagant, Jim. The police tell me this is one of the most inexpensive ASSAULT RIFLES you can buy. The gun has a bolt action which ensures reliability to destroy your target, can fire up to 10,000 rounds per minute, and it is just coming in Jim...

Jim...

He bough the assault gunner at a gun show using the gun show loop-hole Jim. Even tho he had every reason as an american to buy it in a manner that does exist, we as CNN want to be in never-land forever, fuck Trump he is a nazi, cry to Obama, bring down the cultural fabrics of the West, boost the Marxist agenda, preach globalization and acceptance of niggers that want to rape our women and blow up our airports, and finally file for free shit because you are too lazy to work.

Back to the Weather, Jim.'

'Thanks Heather'

That's how that would happen but over the course of four or five days because money and Jews.

>>693169990
Cause at the time of the shooting everything is a mess few people usually spot the shooter and everybody think they can save themselves.

>>693169798
It doesn't matter who does the attacking anon.

But the US numbers are massively inflated by black gang violence. If we excluded black shooters the US would be significantly lower.

>>693170279
I used the term assault weapon because the government uses that term. That doesn't change the fact that it's different than "assault rifle."

>>693169990
In a time of panic people usually dont make rational decisions

>>693169983
And you think gang violence shouldn't be counted?

>>693163790
They'll just lie and say you used an assault rifle... kinda like Sandy Hook.

>>693170273
This is /b/ everybody here is already on a watchlist

>>693170422
>̟͇̰͚̘̭̯̬̣͒̊̇̔͘͘͢͡͞ͅŅ̸̣̜̱̦͕̲͎̣͓̰̗̗̬͓̌ͦ̆͛ͮ̆̔̋͌͊ͯ͂ͯ͘͞͡ͅo͊̇̓͊ͦͬ͆ͯ́̈́̒̈́̓ͧ̓҉̡̭͕̹͍̥̮͓̻̣̦͕̤̫̱̭͇͞tͬ̂ͪ̉̀ͧ̊ͯ̓̓͛ͣ̊͆̇̑̑̑͡҉̼͉̥̰͟ ͥͪ̊̅̋͑͏̨̬̯̣͘͟ẗ́͛͒͗͞҉҉̧̞̟͔̠͉̘̼̳̙̞̼y̵̨̛̳̬̳̦̣̳̮̲̙̍ͯ̊̀̇́̔̓ͪ̍͂ͯͧ̀̽ͧ̚͠ͅi̛̹̟̟̥͔̝͎̇̽͑̀̈́ͬ̉̂̎̈́ͫͣͦͦ͛̎ͣ́̔̀͟͡͝n̽ͮͧ̍͊ͪ͐ͩ̒̈ͮͪ́͏̠͈̺̞̫̬͖̗̮̺̺̙̖͙͠ĝ̨͕̤̤̟̖̝͔͎̩͓̓̇ͮ̄͋ͭͬ̍̅͝͞͠ͅ ̉̅̄ͫ̾͛̅ͦ̌ͯ̅͘̕҉͎̝̦͓ͅb̵̳̹͚͕̣͍̍̈ͧ̌̃̐ͪ̊ͤͯ̒̈́̆́́u̴̡ͥ̎̅͗͛͛͒̄̿ͩ̎̌ͧ̎ͣ͒̚͘͡҉̪͖̬͚͍̘̖̰̯̗̦̪ͅt̏̑̇̒̽́̊̊ͦ̄҉̴̟̪̬̮̰̭͈̝̩͇͓͘͝t͛̒͊̋̅͗ͩͧ͌̎̓̃̔́͊͞͏̢̫̞͍̱̣̙͍̖̹̳̤̠͢ͅe̢͓̩̹͖͕̦̹̦͎͚ͤ̓ͨ͐ͫ̅̔̎͂̓̃ͧ̅͐͜͢r̬̻͕͉̻͙͔̬̬͍̙̺͈̩ͦ͋̀̑̃͋̅̄̓ͤͨ̔ͥ̀̌̓ͪͫ͡ͅ ̨͛ͩͣ̿ͨ̔ͦ͛͏̰͇̯̪͖̰̪̖͈̬̰͉̝ṱ̴̴̻̬̘̰͍̳̲̻̝͖̹͍̒̆́̃̐̂̃̄̈̒ͤͤͧ̐͆̿̚ͅȍ̷͕͇͚̻̲͈̰͕͙̞͔͉̯̼̜̹͐͗̉̀̔͡ͅà̡̺̦̺̟͙͈̫͙̜̝̫̳̮̹ͤ̊̆͑̄͂̄̊͛́̚͝ͅͅsͬ̽̓ͧ̈́͑̑́̾̈̀̇ͭ͐ͤͮ҉̶̵̮͔̦͉͍̙̫̠͍͘͘ͅt̷̢̛̹̗͖͓̯̯͎͖͇̝͚̞̰̪͎̤̥ͤͪͫ̂̎̒̇͆̏ͩͣ͛ͥͫ ̴̸̨̲̮̖̖̫͎̞̘̱̰͖̫̯̓̊ͥͫͯ̆͆ͥ̇̉̚͜ͅt̷̵̷̡͕̯̯͓͚͍͕̥̜̱͖̗̳ͩ̅́ͯ͑̀̅ͦơ̸̵̮̞̲̦̤͈͉̬̻̹̼̖̠̜͔̏̄̎͆ͅ ͦ͊͛̀҉̣̖͓̻̻͇͓̹͢a̶̴̷͔̺͖͎̭̺̰̥̙̠̗͛̿ͭ͑ͯͭ̀̀͡ ̛̺͕̭͈̗͉̠͑ͫ̑̾̆͛̽ͫ̏̇͂ͥ̀̕͢͢ͅͅcͨͣͫ̓҉͚̬͔̱̳̺̬̹̥̪̫̮͖̻̬a̶̧̨͖͉͇̤̮̳̳ͥͯ̅̊̔̀ͭ̐͗̇ͮ͒͝ẗ̷́̇̑͋̉̄ͬ̾̊̈́ͬ̌̎̾͌̎̍̅̀̚҉̬̠̠̪͇̝s̶̸̢̤̪̭̬͔̹ͦ̔͂ͪͨ̇͗ͯ͂͑̊́͠ ̸̴̓̽͛͆ͪ̃̉̏͐̄ͣ̄ͤ̚̚͠҉͎̘̯̬̙̠̪̼͈͟b̋͌̐ͨ͐̊ͦͦͭ̊ͯ̃̾̐̓͋̈́̂͠͏̧̧͚̲̫̺̣̼̞̙̞̱̲̻͔̲̣̻̬͖̲͜a̵̸̭̭͉͉͔ͤͦ͌̒̅̄͑̆̔ͦ̈́ͣ̕ͅç̹͙̹̤͙̍ͣ̈́̌ͪ͜͢ͅ

>>693170598
Yea, this

Plus u can no scope them and then MLG will sponsor you.

̵̨̛̳̬̳̦̣̳̮̲̙ͯ̊̀̇́̔̓ͪ̍͂ͯͧ̀̽ͧ̚͠ͅi̛̹̟̟̥͔̝͎̇̽͑̀̈́ͬ̉̂̎̈́ͫͣͦͦ͛̎ͣ́̔̀͟͡͝n̽ͮͧ̍͊ͪ͐ͩ̒̈ͮͪ́͏̠͈̺̞̫̬͖̗̮̺̺̙̖͙͠ĝ̨͕̤̤̟̖̝͔͎̩͓̓̇ͮ̄͋ͭͬ̍̅͝͞͠ͅ ̉̅̄ͫ̾͛̅ͦ̌ͯ̅͘̕҉͎̝̦͓ͅb̵̳̹͚͕̣͍̍̈ͧ̌̃̐ͪ̊ͤͯ̒̈́̆́́u̴̡ͥ̎̅͗͛͛͒̄̿ͩ̎̌ͧ̎ͣ͒̚͘͡҉̪͖̬͚͍̘̖̰̯̗̦̪ͅt̏̑̇̒̽́̊̊ͦ̄҉̴̟̪̬̮̰̭͈̝̩͇͓͘͝t͛̒͊̋̅͗ͩͧ͌̎̓̃̔́͊͞͏̢̫̞͍̱̣̙͍̖̹̳̤̠͢ͅe̢͓̩̹͖͕̦̹̦͎͚ͤ̓ͨ͐ͫ̅̔̎͂̓̃ͧ̅͐͜͢r̬̻͕͉̻͙͔̬̬͍̙̺͈̩ͦ͋̀̑̃͋̅̄̓ͤͨ̔ͥ̀̌̓ͪͫ͡ͅ ̨͛ͩͣ̿ͨ̔ͦ͛͏̰͇̯̪͖̰̪̖͈̬̰͉̝ṱ̴̴̻̬̘̰͍̳̲̻̝͖̹͍̒̆́̃̐̂̃̄̈̒ͤͤͧ̐͆̿̚ͅȍ̷͕͇͚̻̲͈̰͕͙̞͔͉̯̼̜̹͐͗̉̀̔͡ͅà̡̺̦̺̟͙͈̫͙̜̝̫̳̮̹ͤ̊̆͑̄͂̄̊͛́̚͝ͅͅsͬ̽̓ͧ̈́͑̑́̾̈̀̇ͭ͐ͤͮ҉̶̵̮͔̦͉͍̙̫̠͍͘͘ͅt̷̢̛̹̗͖͓̯̯͎͖͇̝͚̞̰̪͎̤̥ͤͪͫ̂̎̒̇͆̏ͩͣ͛ͥͫ ̴̸̨̲̮̖̖̫͎̞̘̱̰͖̫̯̓̊ͥͫͯ̆͆ͥ̇̉̚͜ͅt̷̵̷̡͕̯̯͓͚͍͕̥̜̱͖̗̳ͩ̅́ͯ͑̀̅ͦơ̸̵̮̞̲̦̤͈͉̬̻̹̼̖̠̜͔̏̄̎͆ͅ ͦ͊͛̀҉̣̖͓̻̻͇͓̹͢a̶̴̷͔̺͖͎̭̺̰̥̙̠̗͛̿ͭ͑ͯͭ̀̀͡ ̛̺͕̭͈̗͉̠͑ͫ̑̾̆͛̽ͫ̏̇͂ͥ̀̕͢͢ͅͅcͨͣͫ̓҉͚̬͔̱̳̺̬̹̥̪̫̮͖̻̬a̶̧̨͖͉͇̤̮̳̳ͥͯ̅̊̔̀ͭ̐͗̇ͮ͒͝ẗ̷́̇̑͋̉̄ͬ̾̊̈́ͬ̌̎̾͌̎̍̅̀̚҉̬̠̠̪͇̝s̶̸̢̤̪̭̬͔̹ͦ̔͂ͪͨ̇͗ͯ͂͑̊́͠

>>693170408
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/16/germany-prosecuting-satirist-mocks-freedom-speech
http://www.wsj.com/articles/german-police-detain-400-protesters-at-afd-convention-1462013325
Also anything to do with bilderburg

>>693170967
>please hang up and try again

>>693164863
Don't forget that "AR" stands for armilite rifle not assault rifle

>>693170273
That's very thought-out...

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>>693170599
Now sports

>>693170715
That's illegally acquired firearms. A nigger shooting three other niggers because they are in a different gang with a glock he bought for 90 bucks illegally doesn't count, no.

>>693170273

yes they require magazine changes, but until that time you can fire 8-31 shots without having to break your aim or move your hands other than squeezing the trigger. and the reloading action is press the mag release, slot the new mag, pull the slide/charging handle. you dont have to manually eject the last casing and insert each new round individually

having 2 bolt action rifles would mean having the other slung across your back, youd have to take it off and shoulder it again, bear in mind WW2 era rifles were heavy and fairly long. the bayonet would be only good for one stab, same with the knife if a group of people have committed to rushing at you

>>693166325
Don't forget that with his master plan nobody died till 3 hours after it started

>>693171734
90 bucks? i need to move to america

>>693171953
Illegally. As in, buying one from a nigger in a traphouse.

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>>>/k/

>>693171295
>first article
Böhmermann does not mock on freedom of speech but kinda overextends it (he was sued by president Erdogan). If people say something I consider stupid (eg. spreading fascist ideology) I can say that and that is what he does. People wouldn't watch his show if they didn't share his opinion.
>second one
I can not fully read it without subscribing but I was arrested once as well and I can tell you that this is usually rightfull. Those protestors probably tried to block a street which is minor lawbreaking.
>bilderburg
I am not quite sure how this applies to the topic and I am to lazy to read much more about Bilderburg.

>>693170715
Do you feel it is just to compare 49 nightclub goers to 5 gangbangers?

>>693171734
So if guns were regulated don't you think it would be more difficult to actually get an illegal gun? Like if the shops were controlled better. I've seen several shops that get their guns 'stolen' and than just ship them of to Europe for example. They don't sell ammo though...

>>693170599
does it hurt being such a conspiracy dipshit?

>>693163790
i've had this idea with a knife, and i'll wear a shirt that says "gun control wouldn't have saved them"

i'm a pretty athletic guy, on a college campus i could get 8 or 9 people before i get gunned down i think.

in an elementary school i think i could do in a whole classroom with a fire extinguisher and a machete

>>693172792
Well you could also beat the kids to death with your fists. I don't think this argument can be applied to kids as they wouldn't stop you with a Panzerfaust either.

>>693166706
>>693166897
Salty?

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I recomend a S&W TRR8 .
It's a 8 shot .357magnum revolver that can be reloaded relativly fast via moonclips given that you have the practice.Get some good hollow points like Federal HST's so you don't have to shoot people twice. That way you can probably rack up a solid bodycount.
If you choose this gun the cucks can't blame :
>high Cap mags
>asault weapons
>semi auto guns
>detachable mags
>threaded barrels
>muzzle devices
>barrel schrouds
>collapsible/foldabe stocks

>>693173341
>hypothetical
>educational purposes

>>693170367
Damn that's autismatic
You're drawing out scenarios for crossbow killing sprees like it's your happy place. crossbows make noise. And it wouldn't take much time for someone to hear a shot from close by. and don't come at me with range what-ifs... and it wouldn't take long for someone to detect the path of impact, or start noticing people are dying like some silly zombie apocalypse all around and scatter. Plus if it's a public area, authorities are likely on duty close by. And no matter how crazy we wanna roleplay here, there is no way you're going to keep going if the police catch onto the crossbow killing spree and start fanning the area. you ghillie suit isn't going to protect you forever.

Just buy a scope and silencer for a semi automatic and like 100 or so rounds. Find a bird's nest. Imagine the sound of the shots somewhat similar to a quick backspace.

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>>693163790
No shit but it is a hell of a lot easier for police to deal with someone who can shoot 5 bullets a minute vs 30 bullets a minute.

If you really don't understand, you really are retarded.

>>693174174
but if people weren't meany poopoo heads than murder wouldn't even exist in the first place anon
you aren't being proactive enough. YOU are part of the problem

>>693174366
Yeah!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

>>693174174
TRIGGERED! REEEEE!!!!!!!

>>693167747

>european countries dont want to be part of europe

are you retarded? why do you think there is so much chaos in Britain over the Brexit? It is incredible how you people post, but are so completely clueless about actual current events that I am amazed you can even form complete sentences.

>>693168846
that would last about 30 seconds.

amazing how you fucking kids think this is a video game where you can just sneak around and no one will pay noticed to the man carrying a crossbow.

>>693169792
Considering that Norway at the time had about 3.5 million people, and Brevik killed 250~ I would say that he was pretty much right on.

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>>693174174
Anon, accuracy is key here. Not to mention personal pleasure.
The sound and kick of bolt action rifles? The POI? It's just beautiful.
You aren't spending ludicrous amounts of money on some over priced steel and low grade ammunition.
You're killing with a historic, work of art - most likely. Brass, iron, and wood.
>classy as fuck? yeah

>>693174552
As a person that lives in Europe, I can tell you that you should probably suck my dick.

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>>693163790
English Longbow

I think it would be kind of cool to see somebody do a mass killing with a traditional warbow. Those can easily kill with a single hit.

And the idea of banning bows is hilarious.

>>693171295
>people break a law
>people go to jail for it

>muhhh personal freedoms huurrr durrrrr durrrrrrrr

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>>693173503
yeah, we get it

>>693175416
>laughing like a child

>>693164863
really?? that is interesting because neither the oxford english dictionary nor mirram websters dictionary makes NO mention of selectable fire. In fact, they both say automatic OR semiautomatic rifle.

so it seems like you just pulled that out of your ass to try to help support your point but why should I expect someone defending assault rifles to use logic or know what words actually mean.

>>693173613
Suppressors are NFA items and verry reguated. You need to get your fingerprints taken and wait a couple of months before you get one. When you get caught they will get banned in an instant and we want to avoid that. Furthermore you need to consider that you need Subsonic ammo that is still effective like .300blk or .458socom which will probably get banned too since it is designed to be subsonic and only and an assassin needs stuff like that, right?

>>693169798
"Mass Shooting" is not a defined term. That's why you see so many different numbers on it.

Obama's gun study defined it as.

"The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons."

78 mass shootings in 30 years.

http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1#R1
Then you have retarded anti-gun groups that list any incident where more than 1 person is shot as a "mass shooting". They say there have already been like 200 mass shootings in 1016 already.

>>693170554
how about you try looking it up because you are completely full of shit retard.

see>>693176163

>>693171514
>assault rifle 15

>>693172400
Not the guy you replied to but that guy was charged by I other country with a crime and merkel said she's just gonna ship him over there. FOR CALLING HIM A GOATFUCKER!!!!! You have no freedom of speech. Deal with it

>>693163790
someone did it with a pump shotgun

>>693176163
>Using websters to define a gun type.

Talk to any actual gun hbbyist and they all hate the term "assault rifle". It is a term made up by politicians and media personalities who are totally outside the sport/hobby/tradition of firearms.

I've grown up around firearms my entire life, own a AR-15 and many other guns and I cannot honestly tell you what an "assault rifle" is.

I can tell you what a semi-automatic carbine with a removable box magazine is.

>>693176163
Seriously? Resorting to dictionary definitions like a retared feminazi?

>>693176163
Y'know, this is an interesting reaction to a point I've been trying to make for a long time. I'm against guns in general, but I know a fuckton about them because if you can't speak the language that pro-gun people speak, you'll be dismissed out of hand as an idiot. And, to be fair, I think they have that right. For example, when that moron brought a snowball into Congress so he could be all, "hurr durr snow still exists global warming is a lie," everyone who understands even a modicum of science and environmental science rolled their eyes and dismissed his argument.

Now, if we, as anti-gun advocates, misuse the words used to describe guns, gun people will dismiss us as being uninformed (which I've found most anti-gun advocates to be). So, if you're going to talk a lot about being anti-gun but have no hope of even getting pro-gun people to listen, you're not even preaching to the choir--you're screaming at the choir. It's masturbatory.

To this particular strand of conversation, "assault rifle" isn't a term used by gun people. It's basically a made-up word for political/law writing purposes and has no practical use. "Automatic" and "semi-automatic" are useful and specific terms, but... why are you insulting what's a pretty innocuous comment? No one's ever been shamed into changing sides on gun control, and your aggressiveness isn't justified on the otherwise quite weak point you're trying to make (primarily weak because dictionaries don't define words, they document usage of words).

You've got a great cause you stand for--I stand for it, too! But be the best advocate you can be.

>>693176163
if i assault someone with a "hunting rifle" is it not now an assault rifle?
also define "hunting rifle"
also fuck a cactus moron

>>693176808
>calling someone out for using a dictionary to define a word
>ignoring that it isnt only websters that defines assault rifles this way.

wow. So i guess I shouldnt bother with you because for someone to think they know what a word means more so than every noteworthy dictionary is a level of retarded that I have no interest in dealing with.

>>693177214
>calling someone out for defining a word using the resource that defines words

Yea you have achieved a special level of retarded now. I guess down means up to you and left is right.

>>693172761
Does it hurt being in the dark?

>>693177539
Then stop replying? Replying is a form of dealing with this this level of retarded. If we're too retarded to be dealt with, go away.

>>693163790

Son, Charles Whitman killed 14 and wounded 32 in 90 minutes with a bolt-action Remington. Learn to history, m'kay?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

>>693177399
We are most likely on the same side. But don't give an inch to anti-gunners over things like "hunting" The 2nd amendment says nothing about hunting. Agreeing that anything is "just for hunting" is letting them ignore the "shall not be infringed" part that they are trampling on.

They want to win inch by inch. Give them nothing.

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>>693176183
So WHY wouldn't you just become an assassin?
Start a business of picking off corrupt 1% shit heads. Surely 'radical' environmentalist groups or others would pay a pretty penny for someone to off those oil pumping, clear cutting foresters and energy plant waste dumpers?

Start off small, taking out drug lord competitors or gang leaders; maybe a few convicted criminals that might get away with some serious crime. Or work for the gangs and drug lords by taking out competitors and informants just getting out of prison, etc.

You could cooperate with fake identity professionals or whatever, and some ex-CIA/FBI or military suppliers. Get the hook up over time. Serious gear and equipment. Just turn your blood thirst into a cash business.
Who knows, next you'll be killing Communist leaders and war lords in foreign countries.

>>693163790
good luck

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>>693177790
yeah, back before swat teams were a thing

he was shooting people for over an hour

>>693175510
>eurocucks never understand
Remember islam is peaceful

>>693173613
>Taking this thread serious
>Autist

>>693177835
>We are most likely on the same side
I really doubt that. I believe in one gun law and one gun law only. can you say the same?

>>693177380
The thing about this is I am in no way "anti-gun". I have no problem with guns. I have no problem with jo shmo owning a pistol or a shotgun or a hunting rifle. But just like how it isnt legal to own an RPG or a M1 Tank, high capacity rifles should not be legal to own for private owners.

And you have to realize, they absolutely would use assault rifle to define an AR-15. The reason they wont now, is because they dont want them banned. So they will do these mental gymnastics and change the meanings of words just to get their way like petty little children. Thats why I have more of a problem with the retards that make up the pro-gun lobby than I do with guns themselves.

>>693177539
How about you refer to actual figures in the firearms world. Companies that have built guns for 100+ years. People that dedicate their careers to using and understanding guns.

Why not look at their opinions about "assault rifles".

Do you do to some political activist lawyer for medical advice? Why go to them for firearms expertise about gun types and classification?

Watch this video. I trust people like this when it comes to guns. Not some sleezy lawyer in a suit who has never even shot one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATeti5GmI8

>>693169149
I made a crossbow with wooden stock and leaf springs from an antique wagon
try that

>>693177399
as i said before, look up the word retard.

stop making up definitions to words that are already defined.

>>693178296
You can own a tank in America

>>693177539
Feminsim is about equality look at the dictionary

>>693177767
there is no we..... look at the replies. It is just you and one other retard who are denying the dictionary definition.

>>693177380
Why don't you like guns?
Genuinely interested.
Even been shooting?

>>693178178
>thinking im european
>still thinks he isnt the retard

>>693178396
>words that are already defined
they are not though... at least not without serious arbitration
buy a gun in AZ that is totally 100% legal.. buy the same gun with a threaded barrel in CA and it is now an "assault weapon" 100% illegal

you explain to me the difference that isn't including pointless legislation written by bureaucrats who don't understand any of it. I will wait

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>>693164681
Sounds hot

>>693178317
so should i listen to an electrician about what an outlet is called?

no because it is called an outlet. He can have whatever term he wants to use but that doesnt change the fact that it is an outlet.

And if you really arent under the impression that they have changed their definition of assault rifles to maintain their sales, you are completely retarded or brainwashed.

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>>693178396
>le its in the dictionary
>look at websters
>im sorry no definition
>pic related

>>693164204
They had premade cartridges for muzzleloaders from the very beginning. It just wasn't popular too expensive and not as reliable, I would imagine.

>>693178663
>says hate speech
>is american
>gets away with it
Ahh, enjoy the freedo.

>>693178408
not an operational one.

You can have the vehicle however the cannon and weapon based hardware will NOT be in it.

>>693178501
And autism is about ignoring the definitions to words to help suit your needs

>>693179229
Yet you can make your own shells? What is your point?

>>693166325

Whenever you hear of a knife attack in china, its a muslim.

>>693179357
See>>693179010

>>693178767
is there a dictionary entry for the word???? dont worry, ill wait while you check...

back? ok ill take your apology now.

>>693168887
brevik single handedly put norway there

>>693178396
You are the same as a feminazi going around and telling people that feminism is about equality because the dictionary says so. Reality doesn't confirmed to a fucking dictionary, retard. Have you ever consider that a dictionary might be wrong or havs an agenda like the media?

>>693164950
Just go to a really open place where people are spread out, a beach would be perfect, and snipe people as fast as you can lee harvey oswald style.

>>693179010
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle

are you done speaking now?

>>693176163
https://www.britannica.com/technology/assault-rifle

"Assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle#cite_note-BritanicaDef-1

"An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

http://gunfax.com/aw.htm
"US Army intelligence document FSTC-CW-07-03-70, November 1970". Gunfax.com. Retrieved 2012-08-26.

"Assault rifles are short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."

Both Encyclopedias say it must be select-fire in order to be an Assault Rifle. Of course, I could pretend that yellow = blue and orange = yellow, but that doesn't make it so. Do your reserach before opening your mouth.

>>693179534
No there isnt
See>>693179010

>>693178221

>>693176183
>>693173613
>singling me out
>bully

>>693163790
> impying you'd even kill anyone
> implying you wouldn't be arrested before you even got set up
> implying if you even got kills in that anyone would give a shit

>>693179534
unless you are going to redefine infringement (which I know that you will) you can't argue that every single gun "law" that exists isn't directly contradicting the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

sorry but you are wrong kiddo. maybe next time you will be on the right side of the constitution.. and not a terrorist who hates freedom.
also four question marks is unnecessary and tacky.

>>693178994
>And if you really arent under the impression that they have changed their definition of assault rifles to maintain their sales, you are completely retarded or brainwashed.

There never was an assault rifle term you fuckwit

A bunch of media and politicians made it up and they still can't even define what it is and where you draw the line between an "assault rifle" and every single firearm.

>>693179418
and you can convert a legal AK47 to a fully automatic one. Then you get arrested when you get caught.

Ignoring laws doesnt mean they dont exist moron

>>693179588
so despite that i said nothing about feminism or women at all, im a feminazi....

goood logic. Yu moust bee sooo smarterest then i

>>693179697
yea see the replies retard

>>693163790
>>693164063
Do it with your fists, prove even more of a point

>>693179229
I'm pretty sure you can own destructive devices like cannons. It just takes paperwork and approval much like owning a fully automatic. Law enforcement knows who you are and where it is kept.

>>693179655
Haha not really because an ar 15 wasnt designed by the military. Learn definitions asshole. We done speaking now? Yeah, mmmk

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hey /b/ post for me some good video materials from this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
I just find out theyre using Czech weaponery and want to see how its work then

>>693163790
Use a blunderbuss with a bayonet.

>be my dad pre jizzing in my mom
>out at the bar with some chick
>disgruntled guy with a gun bursts in and starts shooting
>multiple patrons bum rush and beat him with fists feet and pool cues
Only victim was my dads dates buttcheek.

The real problem isn't guns, weapons, or mental fuckups, it is the average fight or flight response.
Trying to outrun or hide from bullets is illogical and only leads to more deaths meaning less alternative targets and the chaos they provide.

>>693179850
Exactly. Criminals gonna crim so why punish none criminals?

>>693179797
and unless you are going to actually read the bill of rights and understand the 2nd amendment, you will remain ignorant as you are now.

The second amendment pertains to the formation of state militias. And it is absolutely within the right of the government to decide what weapons those militias can own.

Learn your fucking bill of rights before you start trying to speak again.

>>693177399

not the same guy

A firearm has to meet three criteria in order to be classified as an Assault rifle.

1. able to accept detachable magazines.

2. fires an intermediate cartridge.

3. Has to have selective fire. (semi auto, full auto, 3 round burst etc.)

The Armalite Rifle model 15 (AR-15) doesn't fill number 2 or 3. It fires .223 or 5.56mm rounds which is slightly larger then a .22 cartridge making this a weapon that fires relatively small bullets. The main differences being length of projectile and size of casing. It has two selector settings, safe and fire (semi auto).

Basically, the "Assault Rifle" that the media likes to yell and scream about doesn't exist. Any civilian in the US who wants to own a legitimate assault rifle legally has to pay out the ass to do so.

>>693163790
Better yet: musket.

>>693166325
Why a gay bar homo

10 points to whoever can name the gun in OP's image

>>693168742
That's an Arisaka Type 99

Kar98s have a different assembly at the back end of the bolt.

>>693179802
except there is a line. Just because you are too retarded to read the definition of assault rifle and just because you keep saying that the definition is wrong, doesnt make you right.

the definition is the definition no matter how many times you faggots sit there and cry about how "hurr durrr its not what it means hurr durrr".

Guess what, it is what it means because thats what a definition is. Just because you dont like it, doesnt make it not 100 percent, defined.

>>693180324
>and unless you are going to actually read the bill of rights and understand the 2nd amendment, you will remain ignorant as you are now.
"a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
I didn't have to look it up... and I understand it just fine thanks.

Tell me what national government existed at the time that you are conflating it with? nope
>>693180360
SHALL N-

>>693180360
5.56 mm is an intermediate cartridge

>>693180113
>not using your feet

>>693180559
that was quick. second question, can you tell me what was most often carved into these rifles, as well as the caliber of their ammunition?

>>693177790
Good old Charlie! One of my favourites!

>>693180312
>>693179850

Converted guns are very rare. The ATF has stated this many times.

>>693180116
No a private owner can not legally own an RPG no matter how much you "think" you may be right except in extenuating circumstances. And guess what, I would be fine with assault rifles if you had to go through those hoops to get one. Would you be fine going through those hoops?

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>>693180630
>not using your teeth

>>693180935
>Would you be fine going through those hoops?
no because that is infringement and I live in a free state. sorry you hate freedom

>>693180935
FFL here, you CAN actually get a tax stamp and go through a background investigation to own a functional RPG. Getting the ammunition is not something you can do easily though.

>>693180207
It is a military design that was repurposed for private owners. That would be like saying a civic isnt a civic because it is an si.

>>693180627
Ok yeah that's true but it's still no larger than a .22, which both a pistol and rilfe cartridge. It's a bastard round if i've ever saw one.

>>693180312
ok by that logic, lets just make murder legal. Criminals are gonna crim so what is the point to having any laws in place?

>>693178994
There were mag fed intermediate caliber semi auto rifles by Winchester (for civilian sale) long before WW1 (1905 if I remember correctly). The term Sturmgewehr (Assault rifle) was invented by Hitler in the 1940's to make the Stg44/MP44 sound scarier for propaganda reasons. The Stg44 was the first intermediate caliber mag fed FULL AUTO rifle. The history book beats the dictionary.

>>693164063
>point

>>693181072
>still doesnt understand the 2nd amendment

That is probably the saddest thing is how few of you actually know what the entire 2nd amendment says as oppose to just the first line.

>>693163999
Listen to trips

>>693180935
I said cannon, not RPG

I don't believe in the term assault rifle. I already go through hoops to get one. I pass a background check and I pay tax on it. What more do you want?

Terrorist watch list? OK who decides who is on it? How do you appeal it if you want off? You expect me to agree that the government can just ban people at will from owning guns with no definition of what puts you on the list and no way to appeal? That's ridiculous.

>>693181132
right and would you be fine going through those hoops to get an AR15? I would be fine if that was how difficult it was to get an assault rifle but something tells me you wouldnt be.

>>693164204
Oy vey

>>693167848
Well put - emotional, knee-jerk reactions (like Dems sitting down on Congress floor) are largely empty, red-herring gestures that are implausible and polarize the issue, making any attempt at reasonable debate/action virtually impossible.

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>>693181014
>not using your butt cheeks

>>693181562
No, thats absolutely ridiculous. I'd prefer if states would follow the laws we have now. Mental Health records need to be centralized at the FBI if you demand the fbi do a background check, and citizens and ffls need to be able to go straight to the FBI for a NICS check, no more of this "state is the point of contact" bullshit that creates unnecessary paperwork and headaches.

>>693181373
how does ANY of this disprove the definition? You just said a couple random pointless things that have nothing to do with the fact that a word is defined. Faggot used to mean a lot of other things but now it just means you and a bundle of sticks.

I couldnt care two shits about what words used to mean or were intended to mean. The word means what it means no matter how much mental gymnastic BS you faggots try.

>>693181430
why do you think you are the only one who understands what the 2nd amendment "really means"? why do you think yourself so superior when you really truly are NOT? you must be a lot of fun at all those parties you get invited to....

the 2nd amendment is very clear in its intentions and only evil thought controllers like yourself think that you can force others to interpret the meaning the same as you. guess what it has been 240 years and it is still there... guess not everyone sees it the way that you do you fucking genius

>>693181443
again NO. Not without lots of paperwork and being on file with state and federal government.

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>>693181583
Why not also go for well made pipe bombs? Herd people into rooms using your bolt action rifle. Make them face the wall and light a pipe bomb and run the fuck away.

>>693163790
You should use a fucking bomb to prove firearms aren't necessary, and you should make a shitload of grenades to make people WISH you'd come at them with a gun.

Frags be comprehensive, namsayin?

>>693181817
so if you arent fine doing it, why are you even bringing up that in certain circumstances you can own an RPG. Do you even listen to yourself when you speak?

>>693182132
>Not without lots of paperwork and being on file with state and federal government.

And I originally said

>It just takes paperwork and approval much like owning a fully automatic. Law enforcement knows who you are and where it is kept.

So why the fuck are you arguing with me?

>>693182017
when did I say I was the only one? There are tons of people. Just none of them appear to be in this thread besides me.

You really need to learn how to read.

>>693182017
ok tell me the 2nd amendment then.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToyVkqPW7Y

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>>693164063

>Run into a crowded place with few or no exits
>Bayonet 3 people before the lot knows what's even happening
>Fire round shot into the crowd, easily penetrating another 3, who are now horribly injured if not dead because of the destructive force of a .50 minié ball
>Bayonet any bystanders, pulling your muzzle loaded pistol when someone tries anything
>Fire it anyway, killing at least another one
>The space is now filled with a thick smokescreen - ma says smokeless powder is the devil's cocaine
>Finish the rest of the now terrified and disoriented crowd with cold steel
>Perish once the constables enter or the crowd realises you cannot fire your weapons without half a minute of reloading
>Clutch your regimental colours as you drift away, knowing you have done the Lord's work

>>693182322
because as I said, I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT FOR ASSAULT RIFLES.

Clearly you wouldnt. So why are you bringing it up if is not something you would be ok with?

>>693182405
>Just none of them appear to be in this thread besides me.
>i am not superior just superior to YOU
kek okay kiddo

you really need to learn how to freedom. all this kissing ass to the state won't help you in the end. believe it or not i love law and order... i don't love infringement and i especially don't like pussy whiners like yourself who think that their opinions outweigh others freedom

nice try though

>>693163790
Whats name so i can look you up when you do it. Also where you gonna shoot?

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>>693182156
http://bnrg.cs.berkeley.edu/~randy/Courses/CS39K.S13/anarchistcookbook2000.pdf

You can also find a few CIA sabotage handbooks in PDF format somewhere around here.
Don't go knocking these recipes if you haven't tried them yet.

>>693182493
a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

there you go baby

>>693182662
You can spout as much meaningless bullshit like "hurr durr you hate freedom because i said so" like you right wing retards seem to love to do.

That doesnt change the facts. The second amendment pertains to well maintained MILITIAS you retard.

>>693182647
Kek

Honestly though the source of criticism of the second amendment starts and ends with Islam.

>>693172742
They are regulated already. There are millions of illegal guns already floating around and no amount of legislation will make them magically disappear.

Rape being illegal doesn't stop rapists from raping, for example.

>>693182312
I am not happy with doing it, that does not mean other people cannot do it. I do not make the laws, just follow them.

>>693165970
>AR jammed
whowouldathought?

>>693182945
I love how "right wing retards" get associated with the last three words "shall not be in fringed" and the "left wing cucks" get associated with the first three words "(a) well regulated militia"

it's like poetry. either way you won't change my mind or any other anon's mind and you are still shitting on the constitution which makes you a humongous faggot by the way

>>693182773
yes and now describe point by point what it means. And dont forget that m word there.

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>>693167837
"Swedish school killer posed for this photo MIDWAY through murder spree: 'Right-wing' fanatic put arm round pupil who thought bloody sword was a prank... then carried on his rampage"

the absolute madman

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>>693182647
You. I fucking like you.

>>693163790
Fuck, if you want to make a point,
use illegal, homemade guns for the mass shooting
or a bunch of pencils....
be creativ

>>693183268
it means that the people have the right to bear arms, it doesn't say that they are **required** to be in a militia it says that the people.. which at the time these words were written was generally referring to the people.. as no federal entity or federal army existed yet.

>>693169990
The chance of survival is higher the further away you are from the gunman. Plus nobody is going to sacrifice their lives for strangers especially faggots.

>>693170701
>running towards gunman
>rational
The only rational solution would be to carry your own gun.

>>693163999
Now you have to

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>>693182200
>frags
>fragments
If you're looking to disperse lethal content in multiple directions I recommend poison. Ammonia and Chlorine you know? Lock some doors. But that's if you're inside with little ventilation.
If you're outdoors you want something like fire. Projectile flames, like that crazy gnome guy in Project X. Something simpler can be made with a water gun and flammable liquid with a light source attached to the barrel.

Then, grenades if you're looking to really cause some serious damage plus scorching.
>honorable mention - nail bomb

>>693163790
Please deliver, OP. Just practice first so you can really get them. Best case scenario in a gun free zone (school, polling place, etc)

>>693183252
see thats what you dont get. Left wing cucks as you so intelligently put it, look at the whole thing. Why do you think we ignore the first part? We don't.

However in the same ruling where the SCOTUS ruled that it pertains to all citizens, they also ruled it was not absolute. The right to regulate militias gives the government the right to regulate the weapons used by those militias. Hence why we can ban fully automatic rifles and machine guns.

>>693183963
You can get pretty much any weapon if you have enough money.

Hell ou can legally buy a flamethrower or a Vietnam era minigun if you have a couple hundred thousand to throw around.

>>693183963
>Left wing cucks as you so intelligently put it, look at the whole thing.
no they completely minimize the whole thing unto the first couple words "well regulated militia" conflate that with "muh gubbermint" than they use that as an argument to effectively ignore the rest of the parts about the "Free STATE" and the "right of the PEOPLE, to keep and bear arms" and the SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED part

nice try though pal
i hope you don't cry again tonight because you will wake up tomorrow and guns are "still a thing" i means it's 2016 cmon seriously OMG cmon

>>693183721
no shit. You dont seem to know what the word militia means either. Militias by definition are not a country's standing army, but are made up by the citizens in time of crisis.

Do you even speak English or is it a second language for you? Not to mention being completely ignorant about how the second amendment came to pertain to all citizens in the first place.

>>693166161
Breivik did it with legally acquired guns. The government has further restricted people's access to guns.

Besides, that was the only mass killing in Norway since 1945; that's 66 years.

Stop using this example, it only shows your ignorance.

>>693172742
It would increase the price, making the sellers more money and in turn making more sellers who want to make money. The same thing happens when a big load of cocaine is confiscated. The price goes for a while making the sellers more money, people without money see the sellers make money and start to sell. Demand increases, supply increases, price decreases and more drugs flood the streets causing more violence.

>>693163790
Orrrrr, you could target a night club, but instead of shooting, set fire to the entrances and exits (so they can't escape) and let the place burn to the ground.