Like 6 new rec states are getting voted on in November i think. It'll be here soon man.

>>693162266
Any Jews on new york?

>>693162598
Shit lol I meant news* any news on new york?

>>693161869
Idfk, this shouldn't even be a debate any more...

>>693161869
it is legal...
oh wait HAHAHAHA be jelly

>>693162266
Is ga one?

>>693163191
Yeah WA here high five.
Jk our laws on concentrates are causing them to sky rocket in price.

>>693161869
conservatives??? hurr durr drugs are bad mkay

uk here

tory government

>>693164025
didnt most of the WA medical facilities get shut down recently?

>>693161869
Fucking bible belt won't get it for ages yet.>>693162266

the police/prisons still need it illegal to pad their incarceration kdr

>>693164235
That or converting to retail yeah we are eliminating medical and just making it all rec use.

>>693164941
thats retarded imo. forcing the elderly and crippled to pay the same, overblown, tax-heavy rate as any third rate high school stoner is just laughably money hungry

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>>693161869
The fact that we're trying to use the same system that made it illegal instead of every one collectively ignoring the system and just do whats good.

Its fucking retarded

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>>693161869
Why the fuck it should be legal in the first place is a better question. Legality will just ruin weed and make it another shitty mass-produced product that's made as cheap and fast as possible. Just look at the Netherlands, the weed there is so shit that it's not even worth buying, and there are not dealers around because it's already legal and sold in stores. Fuck off, you stoner piece of shit.

>>693166317
Forgot to add.
Mfw im stoned right now from the shit i grow myself, and I live in an apartment

>>693165709
Oh dude I hate it. If I got to retail and want an edible the strongest I can get is 100mg and it's is 80 bucks it's robbery.
And concentrate labs are shutting down too because of the legal carry limit on it is like half a ounce I think? So the ones left in the game are jacking up prices and I'm out hear 55 bucks for a gram of it.
I mean I get 20 dollar eighths but the quality is subpar for a strain with a name.

The majority of people in this country have an iq around 80.

>>693166525
This.

>>693166582
any tips on growing? Im always nervous af about getting caught

>why isn't this thing that surely doesnt completely fuck you up and is the number 1 gateway drug legal yet?
Get your head out of your ass.
Alcohol shouldn't be legal either.

>>693161869
Bureaucracy, be patient stoner.

>>693167532
b8

Years of stigma and beaurocratic nonsense can't disappear overnight my man.

>>693167532
everything should be legal you baiting faggot.

You're all a bunch of degenerate drug addicts.

>>693167532
/thread

The only sane person on this entire thread of degenerate stoners.

The only reason weed is a gateway drug is because when your local cartel is out they have other shit available. Fucking drug war.

SUGAR IS THE GATEWAY DRUG FAGGOT!

>>693168195
And you have nothing better to do than shit post.

>>693168195

Says the fat sugar addicted faggot from his shit tier cum stained keyboard.

>>693161869
Republicans

Profits

>>693162656
*any news on jew york

>>693161869
All the people locked up in prisons for marijuana, image the back lash if the government put their hands up and said "yeah it should never been made illegal"

Think of all those lives ruined by jail time, fines, forced rehab etc. It's all terribly fucked, not to even mention the billions and billions of dollars people make AND spend on keeping marijuana illegal.

The feds. Fuck them.

>>693168936
Why should the prisoners be a problem? They broke the law, they went to jail and they'll stay in jail. It doesn't matter if the law changed after they went to prison, they still broke the law and now they have to face the consequences. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

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>>693167035
Theres no trick to the paranoia.
Just act as if it doesn't exist..
No actually.. Don't act..
Be like it doesn't exist at all.

Never had an issue with the po po growing wise.
And I was never caught when i had someone on me(never even hid the stuff most of the time it was in my pockets) because I am always straight forward like theres nothing wrong...because there isn't.

Don't have any tips really..I don't have or use any extra gizmos.
I have a really nice balcony, and alot of other vegetables growing around it so its pretty hidden.
Since Im on the 3rd floor, theres always a slight breeze, so the smell isn't a problem.
Nice deep pot, lotta dirt, compost and some organic fertilizer for your minerals other needs.
I don't make a science of it, never had a sick plant, nothing attacked it in terms of bugs.
Well.. Expect my dogs, they tried to eat it when it was still very early in vegetation.

It is important however to trim the plant from the braches that just take up space and energy. That takes practice but can be found on the net.

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>>693169699
But that's just not how it works bud. They would get released retard. All drugs should be legal. Everyone just look at fucking Portugal!

>>693170174
Decriminilized does not equal legal retard.

>>693166525
Are you a fucking moron? I feel it'll end up the way alcohol is. Homebrews/ local brews still exist. And just like alcohol you'd probably be able to buy higher concentrates. Worse comes to worse you can at least grow that dank shit yourself without getting slammed in jail. You're an idiot kys

>>693168195
Okay, and? What did you expect to find? Kill yourself

>>693170174
No, they wouldn't, you fucking idiot. If you commit a crime, you're obligated to serve the sentence that you're given no matter what. Whether or not something stops being a crime is irrelevant. It's the same reason why Mein Kampf isn't banned in Germany, there were no anti-Nazi laws when it was made.

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>>693166525
remember all those times that you were sold 2 grams instead of 3?

I think we need it legal

>>693161869
does anyone know what county is legal to plan in california?

>>693167532
>doesn't fuck you up
>not a gateway drug
Carry on

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>>693171102
Your thinking is part of the problem, you fucking dinosaur

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>>693171102
That's why where I live in California they released people for possession after it was legalized.

>>693170026
I used to grow vegies, and what I learnd online weed is like growing tomatoes, is that true ?

Tobacco is the gateway drug

>>693161869

Weed culture.

"Legal"

Until the US removes cannabis from being scheduled, none of this schedule 2 BS. All of this legal and medical marijuana is just a ploy.

Employers can still fire/not hire you because its still techincally illegal, regardless of state.

You can have your kids taken away by CPS, regardless of legal state or medical card.

Any "legalization" is just a distraction from the main goal. Remove it from the scheduled drugs completly.

Sell tax and regulate like alcohol.

And if you are a hippie faggot who doesnt want "big pharma" or goverment to control the weed. Dude STFU you uneducated burnt out non voting POS. You can get high regardless.

>>693163191
>jelly
Is this suddenly a middle school classroom?

>>693171131
>remember all those times that you were sold 2 grams instead of 3?
No, because I don't buy from niggers. If it becomes legal, manufacturers will lower the THC to almost nothing in order to make people buy more of it and it will end up being more expensive than if it was still illegal. This has already happened in the Netherlands, don't repeat the mistake.

>>693166525
Then grow your own faggot. No ones gonna force you to smoke shit weed.

And if your scared of government rules over taxing you, then keep it to yourself and dont try to be drug kingpin

>>693166595
As a Washington fag who likes to medicate once in a while, I find Washington's mj laws ridiculous.

>>693166525
I just got back from Amsterdam yesterday and the weed is fucking amazing and cheap. It's refreshing compared to places where it's illegal.

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>>693171923
Welll, weed does require more effort in terms of nutrition and sunlight.
Every living thing on earth wants to eat it before it starts to stink.

I guess the tomatoes are the closest in comparison, but require way less care

>>693172693
So because bud light is shit beer? That means all beer in the US is shit? There os no other option?

Yea there will be a company mass producing shit (just like any other tangible shit in the world) but no one is gonna force you to buy it. There will always be a market for high grade weed and there will always be people to fill that market.

>>693172693
If it becomes legal, the government will make every effort to get smokers to buy taxed weed instead of dodgy dealer weed, so they will put the prices way down. This is why your alcoholic drinks are so cheap and so easily accessible, whilst still containing good amounts of alcohol.

>>693161869
Which states are getting legalization votes?

>>693171923
Not really unless u want shitty weed.
>find good strains
>feed nutes
>use good soil
>manage phone soil and water
Pretty much watch it grow once u know what ur doing

>>693166525
Quite the oppisite dude.

You get higher thc content in commercial grade stuff.

>>693173460
While still allowing people to legally brew beer/wine at home, if thats what they prefer

>>693161869

There is more money to be made from weed as an illegal drug.

-simple black market economics
-pain treatment and pain pharm
-prison industry
-law enforcement
-legal services

Also, cannabis as a crop threatens multiple industries relating to fuel, food, and textiles.

>>693163437
Nah. We are making progress though.
A THC product is available legally for I think 8 diseases in Ga.

>>693172975
Then you've either only smoked shitty garbage weed or never smoked before at all. Every single illegal weed I've bought has been better than that shit in Amsterdam.

>>693173533
California for one. Though its fucking pointless I have exactly 7 fucking connects with good bud whom I can buy from at a moments notice. The whole legalization thin was big to me in hs but now and it was pretty hard to find some on the account no one wanted to sell some kid bud. Now though 4 years later it's not the same.

>>693162598
Lots of them from what I hear.

>>693166525
actually the weed in amsterdam is super high quality.
literally everything i've smoked there was awesome.
and i get my shit from people who grow it themselves at home, so it's not some street dealer quality that i'm used to.

>>693173672
Because cannabis as a crop is simply better. Are you implying that we should keep the better thing illegal, just so that we can carry on using the shittier things?

>>693173591
You don't because the sellers would lose money then. It's the same reason why McDonald's hamburgers are garbage. When weed is legal, you can product as much as you want without worrying about getting caught instead of making small amounts of good weed. So of course it's going to become mass produced trash.

>>693172822
I do to price you pay for legal weed I guess?
It's all profits to them.

>>693164025
WA here too.
Does that mean I can sell my killer 3X rinsed oil made from 190 proof Everclear to dispensaries here? I grow my own weed, so I don't go to dispensaries.

>>693164235
No.

>>693164235
Yeah, but they haven't yet forbid us from growing our own medical yet.
>in b4 Protip: They Will!

>>693166525
Weed in Colorado is pretty good and not very expensive.

Seriously tho, any news on NY recreational use?

This state (and city, nyc) is full of liberal sjw cucks

>>693170650
Just because you can still make it, doesn't mean alcoholism and drug addiction won't go down, you fucking retard. How typical, the retarded stoner can't come up with a reasonable argument. That's what addiction does to you.

Moralist faggots who're too blind to see that the War on Drugs is a fucking failure. Particularly the religious zealots who cry about "muh moral degeneracy!!1!1!1".

Not to mention the whores of big pharma who enjoy pushing poison down our throats.

>>693176240
How much is weed there for a dime

>>693176328
So..
>alcoholism and drug addiction will go down

Thats a good thing so why are you complaining?

>>693165709
That's why I did not vote for legalization / regulation. Only brings government and big business into our personal business. They'll even stop me from growing my own for medicinal use, like I have for 10 years, soon.

>>693175579
I mean yes but I'm sure you need a license and pass some regulation check but of you have the means and a way now is the best time.

>>693161869
gonna be legal in california and canada soon and after that i think it will spread faster

>>693177215
Cali? now snoop dog can smoke legally.

>>693172741
Not worth going through all that effort just to smoke some nice weed and not even make any money from it. Telling people to do it themselves when they complain about something is fucking retarded. That's like telling someone who thinks a movie sucks, "Well, why not you make a better one yourself then?" Or someone who has a problem with Obama, "Well, why don't you become president then?". Shut the fuck up, you fucking moron.

>>693172975
Well I live in Scotland, it's alright but it's worse than Amsterdam. It's double value over there compared to here at least, sometimes triple. Plus the quality is better.

If it was legal everywhere, I really doubt your prediction would be anywhere near accurate.

>>693161869
Pharmaceutical companies with too much power

>>693164489
Louisiana is getting medical, that's a huge step forward for the south as well as the rest of the country.

>>693175579
Also forgot to add if the said despensary is operating in federal laws you would need to get each batch analyzed st a lab for thc content.

My advice find a small mom and pop type place and make friends with the owner I know of a few places that kinda bend the rules so to speak.

>>693177406
for >>693173715

>>693170650
The alcohol argument is true. You can drink Beck's, or you can go for the sweet, tasty, lovely product of a small brewery. Both have their place and their customers. It's okay.

>>693176687
Complain about what? All I said was that alcoholism and drug addiction will go down if alcohol and weed is illegal, which is a reason why they should be.

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>>693166525
of course there will be mass produced shitty weed, but there'll also be high quality shit for people that wanna spend more money

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But it is?

Just got a $40 dollar quarter today of Northern Lights here in Denver.

>>693173401
Good point.

>>693164206
*cuckservatives

>>693177965
>>The alcohol argument is true. You can drink Beck's, or you can go for the sweet, tasty, lovely product of a small brewery.

Except cannabis currently where legal is regulated so tightly that barely a few places can even grow/sell it.

I've heard that in some parts of California they only hand out a handful of permits for dispensaries to sell, and the ones that get picked had bribed their way to get their permits.

>>693177999
Trips of truth

There will be a gap in the market for top grade cannabis, and people will be willing to pay more for higher quality.

>>693176861
WA fag here. I hate our laws too, but think Oregon's law is much better. Not perfect, but at least anyone can grow their own, which big business and the WA State Legislature is about ready to prohibit soon here, even for medical patients

>>693166754
>Niggers

>>693177999
>but there'll also be high quality shit for people that wanna spend more money
Exactly, and that high quality weed will be more expensive than the stuff you could have bought on the streets illegally just like I said. Weed will just end up costing more, legality is a mistake and stoners who advocate it are idiots who are punching themselves in the head.

>>693176996
If I...
>need a license and
to...
>pass some regulation check...
No Thank You m8!

I just grow my own medical and make my own oil, and Everclear is expensive, so I was hoping to share the joy, for a small profit

>>693168195
Life's a bitch and then you die, that's why I get high.

I'm broken and drugs are my glue.

>>693178924
not everyone has the comfort of "not buying from niggers" like you, many people want to get high but don't want to go thru the trouble of getting it, i think its still an overall better decision to make it legal. not for you obviously since you have no problems buying weed.

>>693178924
Where are you getting the idea that regulated cannabis will be more expensive than street cannabis from please

>>693174043
You're an idiot. Amsterdam "weed" is cancer-tier.

international treaties, blatant social ignorance/religious beliefs, government law efforcement funding at federal, state, county, city level and corporate corrections system lobbying....to name a few. also, california had poor system in place to truly reap its benefits unlike colorado which gained valuable insight how to best reverse illegality of marijuana.

to be fair to california's legalization it was truly revolutional for its time.

>>693178544
Hmm well, that sounds like a shitty system indeed. But then, if only a small handful of producers have a license, concurrency is strong and that may hold those few back from producing generic low quality stuff because there is no monopoly, and each of them needs to stand out in some way to keep their customers. If there were only 5 brands of Wodka in the world, I don't think there would be more than one generic brand. And they'd probably not have a market share that'd push the other 4 out of business because you always have quite an amount of people willing to pay for quality.

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>>693168195

>>693177649
Ahhh, I see!
Good idee!
I thankee m8y!

>>693179512
because taxes, strict safety requirements, limited amount of permits granted, and other countless regulations drive the price up compared to someone growing illegally without such regulations and using his years-old network of distribution and transportation.

>>693171131
I fucking love that poggo picture
you are 10/10 sir or madam

>>693179512
It won't, only actual good weed that's worth buying will.

>>693176405
1 gram for ten dollar normally. Up to 18 a gram in REC shops

>>693179512
Good question. For all countries where they decriminalized or legalized it, prices are lower than those of your average street dealer. That's necessary to initially compete with them.

>>693172693
or you can grow it yourself

>>693180285
>For all countries where they decriminalized or legalized it, prices are lower than those of your average street dealer.

European countries aren't very comparable to the United States with 50 different sets of laws to regulate legalization, and with some of the largest drug cartels in the world providing some of the cheapest and most amount of product in the world.

>>693180285
That's what happens in the beginning, after that they'll try to get as much money as possible by making cheap shitweed until it's impossible to get actual good weed without paying a shitload of money.

>>693178924
This is SOOO True!
WA State is the proof!
That's why I did not vote for legalization / regulation / taxation / higher price fixation.
People still mostly buy it from dealers in my city rather than go to dispensaries and get ripped off. Street prices are better, and the quality is, as always, fantastic! Gotta love the Northwest!

>>693180572
see
>>693177381

>>693180096
But then they can grow and sell in bulk, in far greater quantities than what a small cannabis growing gang could dream of. Producing in bulk means fewer costs.

Also what this dood said >>693180285

>>693180096
This.

>>693180903
>a small cannabis growing gang could dream of.

I don't think you understand how incredibly huge the cartels are in Mexico.

>Also what this dood said
In states that have legalized it, the prices are higher than street dealers. Individual states are "legalizing" it and placing extreme limitations and regulations on the very few people who are permitted to grow and sell.

>>693180772
This.

>>693181271
i dont think you understand the production of the emerald triangle.

>>693164206
This.

>>693181538
I don't friend, I'm ignorant on a lot of these matters.

Care to expand on this?

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This.

>pic related

>>693181833
Not the anon you are replying to, but...
Don't you even Internet?

>>693167532
>Alcohol shouldn't be legal either.

Citation needed. Also note that the experiment was made and it backfired badly. You can't be too young and stupid to know how Prohibition worked out.

Hmm. Strike that last sentence, this is 4chan after all.

>>693181833
>>693182988
Now, now...
Your dubs have been checked.
Now go smoke a joint.

>>693183169
69 speaks truth here.

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Canadian here, REALLY hoping the government doesn't fuck up legalization. They've already talked about limited THC percentage, which could mean no concentrates.

Also they want to be "as safe as possible" when they legalize, which might mean no edibles cause of children, and no home growing as it can be easily used to sell to the black market.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LIBERAL GOVERNMENT MAKE ME LOVE YOU AGAIN.

Inb4
>it was just a campaign promise

Nah mate fuck off, it's going to happen.

>>693173300
thats pretty interesting, maybe niggas meant to try eat that shit yuo

>>693161869
WI here. It's taking a long time because every time the damn bill makes it to Walker's desk, he pretty much tears it up and throws it in the trash. Hell, the fucker is planning to institute welfare and unemployment benefit drug tests. Until the guy gets voted out, it becomes legal on the federal level, or if he changes his mind (unlikely), pot legalization will take a very long time to come into effect.

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THIS THREAD HAS INSPIRED ME TO GET SMOKAN

time to fire up the old pax 2

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i can't grow a seed. It's illegal for me to cultivate a plant. A naturally occurring biological entity. The world is a very fucked up place. By the way I grow a digitalis or a belladonna or a datura , all deadly poisons in the correct dosage, in my garden

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tobacco and alcohol companies pay a lot to keep it illegal.

>>693184512
What a story mark

>>693166525
Like

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>>693180187
You're welcome, poggo for life x