fuck, its hard to maintain a thread or gain traction

Anyone else here enjoy pulling stray cat's legs off?

>>692941699
I never really saw a point to torture. A biology lesson maybe?

>>692941699
Nope

You guys may like this band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBvRMH0n6Qc

>>692941699
Yes of course and then jacking off using their soft fur and eye goo. You edgy fuck

>>692941844
A good band!

>>692941699
psychopaths =/= sociopaths

faggot

I used to think I was a narcissist

>>692941900
The one is my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOfNTwmDXY

>>692940257
>Get in here fellow edgies.

>>692942174
I read this in my research of sociopaths.

"even if they put on a mask of being an upstanding moral citizen, usually have a secret hobby or interest in something dark or evil. They may listen to dark music such as death metal"

>>692940257
When did you realise you are one?

>>692942277
I just lack empathy really.

>>692942301
well, for a while I thought I was a narcissist. then after some research I realized that they require attention and admiration. I dont, which caused me to keep looking for what I am.

>>692942300
Secret dark hobby... Well fuck I have a few.

Is there a sort of diagnostic I can go for?

More holocaust black metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoI0p8wN0Jg

>>692943120
like a criteria to fall under to be considered sociopathic?

Mainly lack of empathy. Showing little emotion. The ability to easily move on from relationships is common.

>>692943468
also a lack of remorse or guilt, and being a great liar

>>692942428
You didn't ask me, nevertheless I will tell you (that might be making me a narcissist instead of a sociopath). When I was younger I came to a conclusion, while having a conversation with my philosophy lecturer, that our greatest blessing and our greatest curse is the same thing - we (human beings) cannot be satisfied, we always want more, we harm others to get more for ourselves. Then I started noticing pretty much everyone is like that. That's why I hate us all. If I could, I would erase us from earth.

>inb4 kill yourself, I would if it would make everyone else die and stop harming other species.

>>692943468
Ahh not me then. I find I have zero empathy for some things then one little thing triggers me (usually something I can relate to) and I'll suddenly feel a ton of empathy.

I'm good at hiding emotions and i do find it easy to stop talking to people provided they're not part of my "bff" group, who i've known for 10+ years.

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S O C I O P A T H I S M F A T U R I NG:
K V L T LAME BANE

>>692943759
I hold a certain respect for misanthropy.

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If you faggots weren't diagnosed with ASPD, chances are you're just an edgy teen or tween.

>>692943907
Why would I want to tell the world about my condition. The fuckers will store that information of me and Ill be discovered.

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>>692943907
Lmao rite.

>>692943907
Special needs, yeah that may actually be me. I press my middle finger into my hand to make sure im not in a dream (it would go through my hand if i was dreaming) and I swipe my hand across empty chairs to verify that they are infact empty.

>>692943866
all of this is a spectrum as well. certain individuals are more sociopathic than others.

I just don't feel emotions like other people nor do I understand them very well. I like being alone and because of my lack of empathy towards people and emotions, I make very rational decisions. Am I a sociopath?

>>692943995
The fuck are you doing in this thread then

>>692944119
you likely are

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>>692944119
Maybe autism?

>>692944167
havin some fun

>>692941699
Kill yourself young man

>>692941699

1) learn what a sociopath is
2) stop pretending to be an edgelord

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reporting in

excited for the new finally fantasy bc the characters are aklmost as dark as me

>>692944110
I think I'm schizo more than anything. Like I said about swiping my hand across chairs the make sure they're empty (even though i can fucking see)

I havn't done anything violent so i dont want medical help, but i feel its getting worse :(

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>>692944260

>>692944286
someone who gets it

>>692944310
I would consider the pros and cons of being public about that and receiving treatment.

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psychopath checking in

Being a sociopath is made difficult by edgy preteens.

>>692944226
I have nearly no symptoms of being autistic, maybe a little bit of aspergers is in me, but I really don't think so

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>Mfw anons believe they are sociopaths.

>>692944472
neat, dont you lack fear? or is that something else

I started suspecting something about myself when I was arguing with family, wondering why people don't just grow some balls and stop feeling angry/sad/nervous. I told them it's easy to just stop feeling the emotions once you know their cause and stop letting them influence your decisions.
They told me 'no, it's not that easy, regular people can't just do that'.

>>692944564
hey man, this is a cool little thread we got here

>>692944594
yeah, I really think I expect too much from people regarding an emotional switch

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>>692944589
I fear one thing...

>>692944594
You should read Thee Psychick Bible. It's written by the founder of Throbbing Gristle. :). I found it to be interesting to say the least.

>>692941699

Sociopaths would see little to no point in such an action. Above most everything else, we're very pragmatic people (the inability to feel that "higher" range of emotions will do that.) Logic and practicality reign in the routine of our lives. To that end, most of us will eventually find ourselves getting good at pretending to have emotional responses so we don't make our coworkers uneasy around us, which would be potentially problematic and therefore something to avoid.

Here's a good way to know if you're a sociopath: have you ever spent time in front of a mirror practicing facial expressions and "acting out" how you'll respond to simple social interactions, such as someone asking you advice at work or recommending a place to eat?

>>692944690

My two possible conclusions were:

I am normal and everyone else is just an emotional pussy
or
Everyone else is normal and I have sociopathic tendencies.

If being a sociopath is being able to turn off your emotions whenever you want, then yes, definitely, I am. Any time I'm not piss-drunk, I can turn those fuckers off like a switch.
...And then people wonder why I feel superior all the time.

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>>692940257
Theres more brains in that guy then the entire north american continent combined.
Too bad he killed all those people though.

>>692944904
Ive heard of sociopaths becoming intoxicated and temporarily being normal people (as normal as a drunk person can be)

>>692944428
The main con is that I'm sort of the "Smart one" in my family (im half retarded imo) I wouldn't want them finding. I've checked a chair infront of them once then sat down to remove suspicion (even though I was on my way to the kitchen)

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>>692945012
good luck dealing with that shit

>>692944857

Agreed. I studied and practiced human body language until people started treating me like I was normal. If only they knew...

>>692944993
Yeach, it's pretty much like that. My emotions are automatically repressed 95% of the time, so that when I need to rage or cry or feel romantic I have to get wasted alone in my room and expose myself to the right images/music/video/etc. On one hand, feel powerful when I'm sober, on the other hand, to feel the need to e.g. cry and be literally unable to kind of sucks.

>>692945142
Thankyou anon. To this point I have no idea if it was one or several of you i've been talking to.. I vote /b/ gets id's like /pol/

>>692945196
So you have all of this repressed energy and no medium to transfer it. I myself can switch my emotions on and off, although it can be difficult to turn them back on.

>>692945320
Seems like there are 2 other people besides us here with a real understanding of the thread.

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>>692945389
Being 14 must be great for you.
Dw anon, you'll grow out of that power trip eventually

>>692945534
same

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>>692945196
>My emotions are automatically repressed 95% of the time, so that when I need to rage or cry or feel romantic

Psychiatrist here. You're not a sociopath, at best you may have some form of Asperger because autists often lack of empathy. I suggest you to read the DSM-V, at least you could circlejerk better on the Internet with your edgy friends pretending you're dark dudes. A sociopath isn't defined by his lack of empathy.

>>692945471
Seems about right, this is actually the first time i've mentioned the chair shit.

people like >>692941699 are really annoying, they're the reason people get called edgelords for talking about this type of thing

>>692945739
OP here
lmao

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>>692945739
This nigger is mine

>>692945764
egdefags made it near impossible for awareness about this to exist. I also dislike all of the biased "victims" spreading propaganda of us due to past experience.

Im glad we're talking about important shit in this thread. Not trivial bullshit

>>692945905
The thing is that you're not a sociopath. You're looking for an identity, something to define yourself. You want to be special, you are the litteral example of the "snowflake".

>>692945905
Have you noticed it's mostly weebs who fetishise mental illness? (Sorry if you watch anime :p)

>>692946061
>important shit in this thread. Not trivial bullshit
>/b/

Pick one, you glorious delusional cum gurgler

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>>692945739

I've read the DSM-V and the DSM-IV. Neither are very clear on what constitutes a sociopath, or a psychopath. Hell, they haven't even figured out what being borderline or antisocial really involve. And I don't think anything I said can be reduced to having no empathy. In fact, needing to 'rage or cry or feel romantic' would imply the opposite.
Moreover, this has been, to my pleasant surprise, one of the least 'edgy' threads I've read in a while, so kindly eat a dick.

>>692946183
honestly, I dont care about recognition, I just want to know who I am so I can better myself based on other's experiences.

>>692946211
Now that I think about it, thats kinda accurate.

"the cold, dead stare of the sociopath as he looks at me makes me shudder"

Awe, dont be like that, I dont bite

>>692943759
stop harming other species.

i cringed.

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>>692943759
Native americans had a name for that.
Wetiko

The haters are just jealous of what would constitute them as somewhat special among billions of alike people. Who gives a fuck about that though, Im interested in the psychological aspects.

>>692945739
too and to
you nailed it.
where did you go to school?

>>692946312
I suppose it's hard to catigorise mental illnesses as you only have symptoms to work with considering we know fuck all about our own brains.

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>>692946851
Are you 5?
Calling someobe out for a typo on the internet just proves what an assburger autist you are

>>692946282
Then I suggest you to read more, because sociopathy and psychopathy are regrouped in antisocial personality disorder. Sociopathy is considered to be caused by the social environment (the sociopath didn't born like that), where psychopathy is considered to be genetical.

Though, you could re-read your post to see that you're just doing dialectic, not rhetoric. In fact, you're not even responding to me, you're just saying that these books are shit and that you never said that sociopaths were defined by their lack of empathy. In a nutshell, you have nothing to say.

Try harder

>>692947034
Ill be 5 if you want me two bb

>>692947034
someobe

>>692946972
thats pretty interesting, as Ive noticed I used to be a normal guy during childhood

>>692947034
I think "too and to" is a saying such as "bang on" meaning "that is correct.

>>692944119
You just perfectly described me

>>692947190
right on man

are we evil?

>>692947377
And the reward for the biggest generalisation ever goes to...

Mostly, no. I know I'm not :)

>>692945389
What switch do you use?
Like what brand
how clicky is it?

>>692947444
well, Ive heard many people characterize evil as simply lacking empathy or being apathetic to humanity

>>692947537
some piece of shit I got off a hardware store :(

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>>692947084

That's just my point. They keep changing the definitions of these conditions and changing the requirements for a person to be included therein, so referencing these works as if they're the ultimate authority makes you a dumb twat. Psychology in general if a constantly-changing stream of iffy bullshit, which is partly why a thread like this is interesting. Or WAS interesting, until knobs like you showed up and started dropping buzzwords like 'edgy' and 'autist'.

I'm not even going to mention your abysmal level of English. Oh, wait, I just did.
Try harder and fuck off while you're at it. We're trying to have an interesting discussion here.

>>692947564
Oh right I just read the thread title again. I was treating this thread as mental illness general tbh.

>>692947629
Yes to all of this. Every website I read has a different definition of a sociopath which is why it makes more sense to think of it as a spectrum.

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>>692947660
oh nice

>>692940257
What's the name for somebody that doesn't feel the need to harm others but doesn't care about their wellbeing either?

>>692947802

Rather than try to assign labels to ourselves, it's more useful to just think of it in terms of 'how am I different from the accepted norm, if at all, and what does that mean for me?' My experience has suggested I share the same types of emotions with other people (I still get mad, and sad, and lonely, etc) but have a much greater level of control over their expression and influence on my actions. Maybe I'm a sociopath or something similar, or maybe I'm just surrounded by emotionally unstable fucktwigs. What's important is how this knowledge affects people's perception of me, and how I can use that to my advantage.

>>692948105
I would say that unempathetic would be a start. We arent necessarily malicious though.

>>692948109
Finding labels could lead me to sources of information which could be used to learn more about how Im percieved by our culture.

Probably have some kind of antisocial personality disorder.
Things I did for fun in my life

>forcing girls to strip in kindergarden
>tricking people in beeing a good kid by standing up for the bullied people yet using them as sex slaves
>trying to have sex with my mother and both of my cousins
>trying to have sex with animals
>forcing people to watch me having sex with her sisters
>commiting varios crimes during childhood from stealing to fire raising
>always use my look as "the nice guy" to get away with anything
>always causing massive trouble and anxiety to the people who hung around me
>killing a few animals
>broke up with a sucidial girl and then bulling her after that she commited suicide
>I feel pride in anything i ever do and talk superior about it
>also I'm a self loving bastard who perfectly mimics emotions
>always try to get myself and others into dangerous situations
>people who fall for my tricks deserve it
>everything is about control and people are only there to fulfill my desires

If you don't care that everything I do is fake and only serves my purpose I'm a pretty cool guy to hang around with.

>>692947629
The study of human mind is complex and our definitions often change, that's right. As you said, no one can really define a sociopath. That's the biggest problem with mental illnesses : if you know enough about them, you can fake them. If I couldn't already get Xanax with my job, I could just fake schyzophrenia. As a result, there's now young men, in quest of identity, that define themselves as sociopath to feel more special than others. Then, they come to Internet to find other special snowflakes to circlejerk with. I'm not even using buzzwords, but you have to call a cat a cat : nobody here knows anything about psychiatry. Too, you're just proving that you don't understand anything because "autist" wasn't intended to be used as an insult. There's different levels of autism, and Asperger is one of them.

That's right, my english is just good enough to shitpost on 4chan. Maybe you know french as good as I do, too ? I don't think so.

Let's take a look at your "interesting discussion"
>>692947377
>>692947249
>>692946312

>>692948559
youre my kinda guy! I feel the same about people deserving it if theyre so easily manipulated

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>>692948648
a piece of paper from your stick-up-the-ass, prestigious college means jack shit

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>>692948559
SEXUAL RAMPAGE

>>692949042
That's true, but at least I spent 7 years to get this paper while your only knowledge comes from Wikipedia.

>>692948326

I suppose that's true, just be careful of labels, especially in disciplines like psychology.

If you want to know what your culture thinks about stuff, just watch movies, read books. Anything in which 'reality' is depicted gives you a great idea of what people think.

Look at a character you know you're supposed to dislike. Why are you supposed to dislike him? The writers are trying to make you respond emotionally to certain character traits, even though this character doesn't actually exist and/or hasn't actually affected you personally.

Cultures are weird.


>>692948648

You're accusing me of defining myself as a sociopath just to feel special. Actually, the thread is about us wondering what a sociopath is and whether we qualify. We're generally not needy enough that we need that ego boost - we're on /b/. There is no ego. We're trying to have a discussion, not throw insults around like you are. Which of us are the bigger people?
Also, none of those three posts you quoted are my posts, and they do a very bad job at representing the entire discussion.

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>>692948648
pic related

>>692949231
>>692948648
OP here
yeah, 2 of those posts were mine

>>692949212
Ive done extensive research and scanned the shit out of the internet, which tbh, probably comes from the same sources that taught you

>>692949231
I don't accuse anyone. I'm saying that your only knowledge about sociopathy is what you think it is and your personal experience. Most people in this thread start from the fact that they're "sociopaths" and search elements in their lives that could prove that ("I have no emotions", "I killed a cat once").

Ego even exists on /b/, where we're all anonymous. The difference is that they're not trying to convince the others, but themselves. The ego resides here.

>>692948559

I'd say you're an asshole. I generally only fuck people's lives up on a personal basis if I feel they deserve it. Maybe they did something to me, maybe I just feel like my actions will sort of restore a little bit of balance in the universe.
Killing animals for no reason doesn't sit well with me. I kill certain bugs because they breed in the wrong place, or they bite, or they get into my stuff, but I'd never kill a dog or cat, for instance, unless it was killing me or mine.

I sort of feel where you're coming from with some of that, but I'd argue I'm a bit more... balanced. My actions are defined by logic, not emotions, your actions seem defined by simple unnatural madness and emotions (pride being the most evident).
Have you considered smoking weed?

>>692949702
listen man, Im just trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with me

HOLY SHIT IS THIS A CRINGE THREAD?

>sociopath
>wants to hang out and talk to people

Sure edgelord.

>>692948848
thanks. Good trick is to let people talk and then swiftly change the topic or throw in a random comment. Pigs can't look up, because they don't have a neck. Then it's time to repeat the story back to them as if the story they just told you was yours to create sympathy. Always look at their body language, if they use their hands a lot try to ignore them and look for other things. Don't use the death stare like I do always try to remember to blink during conversations.

>>692949543
Then, if you have the same knowledge as me, why can't you just pass the same grades as I did and make a shit-ton of money ? :^)

I don't know how it is in USA, but where I am private doctors are very well paid (I know some who make 8000€/month).

>>692949979
death stare can be pretty hilarious though

>>692950053
damn, good point

>>692949947
OP here
I honestly like that 4chan has a sense of humor

>>692949212

>7 years
>Still shitpost for no reason and talk like a twat
>mfw

>>692949702
Now I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing or why, aside from justifying your insults.

>>692949979
I get the feeling interacting with morons has made you think you're a bit more superhuman than you actually are. I suspect that more people just think you're fucking weird than think you're a creepy genius. And I theorize that you're not quite as smart as you think you are.

I know very little, of course.

I try my best to make people like me, and think I'm normal, because they way people think about me directly influences how they behave towards me. Getting people to like your projected personality for your own benefit while hiding your true disdain and boredom is, I'd argue, a much more useful form of manipulation.

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>>692950355

Yeah, yeah, forgot image, shut up.

>>692949723
Don't really like weed more of an speed / cocaine kind of guy. I just don't like it when people don't behave like I want them to. If they do so they deserve a punishment which is based on my opinion and not on what they did.

>>692950440

Not sure I follow.
Hypothetical: you meet a girl, she doesn't immediately infuriate you, but you want to fuck her and she isn't into it because she has a boyfriend she plans to marry. I assume that qualifies as 'not behaving like you want her to', right? So what do you do about it?

I wish I had more sociopathic friends. It seems like we always get along and find common ground since we're beyond the ability to manipulate each other.

>>692942174
The drum machine kills it completely unfortunately. Otherwise really nice. While you're at it the bass should have stood out a lot more.

>>692950355
The thing is that I don't know what I want. I'm basically nobody without somebody to interact with and my manipulation is more like a reflex. Sometimes I can control it but most of the times it happens without my knowledge, I just know when to use certain words and gestures which most of the times get me what I want. Also if I look in the mirror I get the feeling like I don't know the person infront of it-

>>692950648
Currently have two girls of this kind. Basically I try to get them to break up with their bf or try to get them drunk then use some sort of emotional leverage to fuck them. If the sex is enjoyable then I will continue with them otherwise they get dumped.

>>692940257
I have not been diagnosed with anything except depression, but experience some of the traits of a sociopath. I however do not define myself as that, since I feel empathy towards other people. Remember that some of these traits are not necessarily bad, the practicality of things are needed in a world of completely emotionally controlled sheep. You balance it out, you show the world what the fuck it has become.

>>692943866
This is basically me!

>>692951450
Practicality makes a world of difference

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Most people in the music industry are sociopaths and had prior knowledge of 911

>>692951931
Im in the music industry and knew 9/11 would happen

>>692951254

I feel the opposite way. I know myself well, I know what I want because I think about stuff a lot to myself, I carefully plan my body language as much as I can...

On the other hand, if presented with that same hypothetical, I manipulate the girl until she likes me or hates her bf enough or is drunk enough to let me fuck her, I guess pretty much like you would. Good to know sex-drive supersedes socio/psychopathic tendencies.

Actually got a spoken-for workfriend the right kind of drunk a while back, first action in a while. She started moving on me, I pretended to try and stop her so that it would make me look like less of a manipulative asshole in hindsight, ended up eating her pussy for an hour or so before we had to go home. Thought for a very short while whether or not I regretted it even a little bit (she obviously did very much so later on since she's in love with bf), definitely not. Would do again in a heartbeat. We're still on speaking/friend terms because I played it cool, which means I might have another shot some day. I can identify many points in that night where guilt, or love, or impulsiveness would have screwed me in the longer run.

I wonder if the difference between sociopath and simply immoral is the lack of guilt?

Hmm, food for thought.

Most people in silicon valley are sociopaths. The former chef of Google went on to beat his wife and claim that he was the Chef to the Grateful Dead. People are nutz.

>>692952040
How many sociopathic jews are in the music industry? Too many too count.

>>692952587
Im all 4,918 of them

>>692952110
I also do know myself yet only the things I did or others did to me. I simply don't say that thing xyz was good or bad. I make them part of my story and depending on how I want to tell the story I change stuff. I just get the most fun out of everything. I only feel bad when other people tell me I done something wrong but only for the time I think it's needed to feel bad after that I just make fun of them. A lot of people want to punch me but no one does it so I just keep doing crazy shit and laugh people in the face :D

>>692952714
You're just like any other human being on this planet, newfriend

>>692952961
you arent familiar with 4chan lingo are you? Welcome to /b/

>>692953051
I smell butthurt

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Rolling for prime numbers.

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>>692953234
Rolling for real numbers.

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>>692953326
Dubs?

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>>692953405
Hm rolling for a portion of pi.
Huh my captcha was pies.

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>>692953532
This is fun.>>692953532

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>>692953721
Did i kill the thread?

>>692953965
OP here
I guess people sorta lost interest

>>692941699
yeah that is a psychopath aka piece of shit.

>>692953532
nice

>>692954057
Yea.
Gonna use yo thread as a launching pad now. >>692954444

>>692954318
>>692954333

>>692954394
Whoo! 'Merica!

>>692954318
ok