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UNPOPULAR OPINION THREAD

All genders other than male and female are bullshit. They do not exist and whoever says they do is because deep psychological issues or because they are sheeple that "don't want to offend" anyone and can't fucking think.

Also, there is NO evidence as to the existence of additional genders other than "because i feel like -whatever-.
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>UNPOPULAR OPINION
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>>692754871
are you 12
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>>692754871
>pic related

>>692755054
please tell me you're not this retarded

>inb4 I've been trolled twice by just making this post
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>>692754871
>unpopular
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>>692754871
Having kids is trashy. Like, niggerish, or trailer park. There is literally nothing trashier looking than a pregnant bitch or parents with young children.
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is it an opinion if its true?
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>>692755333
alrighty then
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>>692754871
what about people who are biologically different? Like they look male but feel female because they have strictly female hormones?
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>>692755557
>off by two
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>>692755672
all because I use legacy captcha and hit a bracket by mistake
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>>692755650
>strictly female hormones
You realize nobody has strictly female OR male hormones, right? Men have estrogen, and women have testosterone. People just have different balances of hormones.
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>>692754871
the enviroment can go fuck itself,
if a tree needs to be chopped down in order to benefit someone, why should i care?
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>>692754871
But I'm a lesbian who wants to become a man trapped in a man's body, you can't understand my pain...
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>>692755873
You got it backwards, friendo.
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>>692754871
if female is XX and male is XY then all males are half female anyway and males are the genetic mutation so argueably female is the only gender and testosterone is the abnomaly
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>>692754871
That is not an opinion.

It also is not "unpopular"
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what about intersex?
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>>692757534
>>>/tumblr/
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>>692757534
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I don't believe a man is trapped in a womans body or a woman is trapped in a mans body. Fucking bullshit. You're just kinda a jock or a feminine dude. If you want to get a sex change go for it but don't feed me that "I'm trapped pity me" shit
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This thread sucks let me help

>millennials are the saviors of society

>sugar tastes awful

>metal is just rock

>if you do drugs once you are fucked for life

>runescape is the greatest game of all time

>cars shouldn't be allowed on the road

>religion should be illegal

>drawthreads are worse than ponythreads
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>>692756142
hes saying men and women have both, and saying men have estrogen and women have testosterone, implying that they aren't solely in possession of their genders primary hormones
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>>692756142
He's saying people have both, "friendo".
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I'm pro-abortion. Not pro-choice, pro-abortion. Pregnant women should need to pass a test to get a license to give birth. This test would include basic questions like "Are you in a relationship or just a dumb slut? Are you employed? Is the father employed? Have you ever been convicted of a violent crime? Are you a high school graduate? Are you currently on drugs? Are you an alcoholic?"

Then both parents should have to pass an IQ test where 100 is pass and everything below is a fail. This would mean a lot less black and hispanic babies, but I could live with that.
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New opinion
This new pokemon just looks like fucking falcor the fuck dragon
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>>692754871
how is that unpopular ?
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>>692755209
no, i'm not
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>>692759252
They do have both are u cooked?.. Still only two genders but if u think ppl don't have both look into it
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>>692759176
Runescape is pretty cool though
And I really wish cars would get the fuck of my roads
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>>692756251
yeah because fuck science and evolution, right?
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>>692760062
biker hipster fag detected
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cunt
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>>692760147
Did you know that all men are created female?
Hence the nips
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>>692759259
this
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Democracy, equality and human rights are bullshit.
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>>692760320
yeah but testosterone is not abnormal you cuck
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>>692759259
that's eugenics bro
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>Retards are inferior and should be treated as such.
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>>692760268
Truck driver actually. I want them biker fags off my roads too
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>>692760432
That was the first anon
And he said being male would be the abnormality as in a mutation
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>>692760514
Yeah, but it's the good kind, breh. The kind that doesn't involve gassing large droves on undesired adults or even sterilizing unfit parents since some people currently unfit to reproduce may one day get their shit together (getting off of drugs, etc.).
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>>692754871
There is not a single person on this planet who would not be better off dead.
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>>692760320
That's because the Y doesn't start producing someone into male until later in pregnancy.

That's like calling adults mutations of babies.
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>>692760808
So kys?
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>>692754871
Opinion:

females are stupid and annoying. everything the do is someway driven by sex and libido. they only think about sex.

the cutest ones have always seen other guys crawling in the mud for them, so those girls eventually became pretentious, uninteresting, terrible at sex, unfunny; even the smart ones.

If a girl gets a lil bunch of power, she will make everything to get more and will abuse it to exploit males around her because muh male oppression.

women always have been and will always be inferior, genetically designed to prepare food, clean home, getting fucked when male's back. Oh yea, and they can sing. Did you ever noticed how many girls want to be a singer ? And how shitty it is, generally ?

this century is marked by the raise of women, but they will fall soon. because we will not let them do, /bros
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>>692754871
i just wanna say that I get why you have that first opinion, but there are actually 7 discernable sexes in humans. Meaning, there are 7 chromosomal kerotypes, 2 of which are typical male and female (XY and XX respectively). The other 5 kerotypes don't necessarily result in deformation or retardation either. You could be one of those and not even know it. Hell, you could be biologically female and not even know it because of androgen sensitivity. And vice versa.
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>>692760959
I wish. I can't make myself pull the trigger. It's like it's against my programming. I've tried.
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>>692761003
Have you been on tumblr again anon?
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>>692760978
Popular opinion
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>>692760978
This is what everyone knows but never wants to say.

Get some better friends anon
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>>692761141
Just jump silly faghot. Tall building, bridge, into traffic. Anything will work
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>>692760787
In that case I present to you the question of what are the unborn child's rights, what if they had a bright future revolutionizing the world but instead got the ol' aborty cuz it's sporty and free
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>>692760787
Eugenics is better when getting rid of degenerates right now than in 200 years when they have made the gene pool even worse.
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>>692761141
have you tried getting better instead of worse
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>>692761558
You ever tried to do it? It's pretty hard tbh.
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>>692761695
wat?
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>>692761517
how could this be related to the quality of my friends ?
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pussy bitch fuck
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>>692754871
that's a pretty popular opinion on here m80, it's also been the prevailing opinion in the US for all but the last 10-20 years or so and is still that way pretty much everywhere outside europe and the us

lurk moar
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>>692761794
>There is not a single person on this planet who would not be better off dead
If this wasn't you don't reply
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Anal sex for a straight male should be more mainstream. Nothing is better than a screaming orgasm with a plug in your ass.

I mean seriously the prostate is in your ass for fucks sake.
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>>692761872
That was me but I'm confused.
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>>692754871

Nice troll, but for those nodding their head:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome#Variations

I don't however think the various combinations of chromosomes explain the level of crazy that I see from some trans people.
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>>692761285
no but i've read a book once or twice. I'm just saying that it isn't an opinion, it is a fact. An opinion would be that it is a disgusting fact.
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>>692761617
You give me the impression of someone who has never taken time to acquaint himself with any argument against his position, ever. This is such an unlettered anti-abortion argument that it's hardly worth the time to respond.

>Unborn
>Child
Pick one.

You're either a child or a lump of cells in the shape of a humanoid. Most abortions aren't even what most people think of as fetuses--they're zygotes; formless balls of tissue with no consciousness. No one is being murdered because there's no person to murder.

>what if they had a bright future revolutionizing the world
They don't. We know who ends up in prison (nignogs from single mothers, children of white trash alcoholics etc.) and we know we don't need more of them running around.

>>692761652
Fine. Just sterilize them at age 11 if they score under 100 on an IQ test. But no need to kill them outright since they can still perform unskilled labor and thereby serve some purpose.
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>>692761831
because your friends either are vapid bitches, or they hang around vapid bitches.
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>>692762028
I'm confused about your confusion honestly it was a pretty simple text exchange so why don't you explain what you're confused about instead of asking "what" this time
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>>692762163

Ah, so being retarded is a gender.

It all makes sense now.
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>>692754871
completely agree with u, it's no so unpopular.
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>>692762391
You think I have a position, cute.
So what you're saying is that babies develop consciousness when they're born.

Now what were you saying about not taking the time to form a coherent thought.... have you been born yet? kek
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>>692762736
>have you tried getting better instead of worse
This question made no sense nigger.
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>>692762568
I'm surrounded by feminists, yes. I know anti feminist girls as well.
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>>692762391
What about sterilizing people full of hatred too, that's also an unwanted trait in society.
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>>692755333
Wow I can't believe how wrong your trips are.
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>>692763284
Trashy ass breeding cuck detected.
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>>692762391
Not him but not necessarily. We evolved hatred as an emotion for a reason, it's been advantageous.
Most westerners just hate themselves nowadays.
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>>692763455
You're right to remove your genetics from society
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>>692762391
ignore>>692763687
that was meant for>>692763190
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>>692763699
Meanwhile, you'll be doubling yours up by impregnating your sister, eh?
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>>692763131
It's obviously easier to go downhill than uphill.
So you've tried killing yourself.
What you haven't tried, I can tell by your absolute astounding confusion, is getting better instead of worse.
>There is not a single person on this planet who would not be better off dead
That's dumb, we are life, what we do is live.
You can wake up tomorrow feeling shittier than you did today and it would just be another bad choice you made.
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anyone who produces genetically fucked up children should BOTH be IMMEDIATELY made sterile, and their sperm/egg become illegal as such to prevent further spread. Like if you have one normal kid, then go for another and it ends up downsy, snip snip motherfuckers.

similarly, people who can function properly (lets just say they inherited some genetically sideways disease that dooms them around age 30) should be made sterile with similar / same conditions.
It would take awhile and be hard to do, but im pretty sure all civilized countries could handle it at this point in time, and it would do nothing but help humanity. Do you have any idea what a drain these "people" are on us? fuck.
Also, legalize human experimentation. morals/ethics/etc be damned, we're not gonna make progress by trying not to hurt peoples feelings. we experiment on every other animal, why the fuck not ourselves? Theres prisoners, and im sure there'd be volunteers.
..whew that was longer than i thought
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>>692763687
>>692763786
It wasn't a serious question but one to poke holes in anon's toilet paper argument.

Obviously nobody should be sterilized.
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>>692764214
Oh. No, tbh the effort that would require is just fucking exhausting.
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>>692763796
I don't have a sister.
Was that your whole argument?
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>>692763076
>So what you're saying is that babies develop consciousness when they're born.
Logial fallacy: strawman. Nothing in my post suggests this. I said the majority of abortions are first trimester, when "babies" aren't babies but zygotes. Pic related. No brain means no consciousness.

>Now what were you saying about not taking the time to form a coherent thought.... have you been born yet?
Logical fallacy: Argumentum ad hominem. Rather than present a counterargument, you present a personal attack in place of argument.
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I think nudity shouldnt be such a taboo thing, just a social norrm. there is no point in basic human anatomy being shameful/evil/etc, it's not a secret
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Forgot pic of zygote.

Here's your "conscious baby", anon.
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>>692764362
That is essentially the point
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>>692764430
My argument was that your redneck garbage and so is your family. Also have fun being cucked and not being in control of your own life anymore because of those larvae of yours
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>>692764537
>strawman
You're using that wrong.
>Argumentum ad hominem
That too.
I hope you don't intend to argue this way the entire time, nobody has time for autism.
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>>692764537
You're not wrong, but take that logical fallacy faggotry back to plebit with you.
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>>692764286
I'm >>692759259 and I agree with 99% of this.

Eugenics is the only hope we have as a species. We need to take it seriously.
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>>692755873
Fuck me, common sense and subject knowledge, on /b
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>>692764537
you literally didn't present a counterargument
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>>692765017
Get out while you can xD LEEELEE
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Ok here's a few opinions of my own.
> medical science is ruining humans by taking away evolutionary trend that supports survival. Instead it allows weakness to breed
> welfare should be banned, if you can't work you should starve and die. Bet those fags would find jobs or make work real quick.
> religion is an opiate for the masses designed for control of people over the ages and God is not real.
> not every terrorist attack is a false flag
> some races are less equal and more savage than others.
> we should let Syria, Iraq and the Middle East continue to be at war; cause... more dead Arabs.
> if fags wanna fag, who gives a fuck, leave em be..
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>>692761558
Do a flip
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>>692764537

>I said the majority of abortions are first trimester
>>Unborn
>>Child
>Pick one
lies
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>>692764286
>>692764993

I thought I was the only one! Also a fan of Eugenics, unfortunately it will never work in our sort of democratic libertarian society. We are dooming humanity by not forcing genetic process. We have the tools, we have all the knowledge to use them, but we value individuals rights rather than the future of society. So it goes. If you guys havent read Huxley's "Brave New World", I would recommend it.
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>>692765180
So much edge distilled into a single post. I bet nobody ever fucks with you IRL eh anon?
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>>692764982
>>692764633
>>692764537


I disagree, he's wrong, any life regardless of consciousness is still life.

What you're saying about abortion - of zygotes - is simply that it is easier to do.
That doesn't make it not murder.
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>>692754871
>unpopular
People who buy into /b/ or /pol/ memes are retarded and should kill themselves
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>>692765430

It won't work because it weakens a species.

Also brave new world was a warning against eugenics. Wow.
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>>692765476
Fuck off faggot
Bet momma lets you suck her titties still
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>>692765532
That's not unpopular
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>>692765034
True. I just clarified my position, which had been deliberately distorted to weaken my original argument. In other words, I pointed out a strawman attempt.

>>692765253
That's not a contradiction. The majority of pregnancies aborted are zygotes, not even what most people think of as a fetus. AND there's no such thing as an unborn child; you're a living, breathing child or you're not.
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>>692765180
Hello national socialist
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>>692765638
No need for that anon, we're all frenimies here
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>>692765511
Life? Sure. Life with any meaning? Absolutely not.
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>>692765666
>666
deviltrips
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>>692755209
Not an argument
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>>692759176
>god I hope so
>strange but ok
>can't argue with that
>kinda extreme but I see what you mean
>no
>are you autistic
>*tips fedora*
>it's all cancer to me
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>>692754871
OP is a spoiled brat without real problems
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>>692754871
>physical violence is unacceptable unless a last resort to survive
>apathetic people are lacking and do not belong in modern society/need mental help
>self harm is not a problem as long as it is non lethal
>Buddhism is the only acceptable religion to pursue
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>>692765666
Trips don't lie.
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>>692765592
>It weakens a species
Weakens them to what exactly?
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>>692765699
Checked
You obviously can't read though or have no idea
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>>692765832
Neither is this
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>>692765941
>apathetic people are lacking and do not belong..
explain?
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>>692765666
It wasn't a strawman devilman see
>>692765253

Oh, you did see it.

But now you're contradicting yourself twice, how can this be?

Oh fuck me this is confusing.

I won't bother, it's alright. I dare not get called a strawman again.
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>>692765761
But anon, your life has no meaning
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>>692766155
Apathy is a quality in our society that is harmful. Persistent apathy should be treated as a mental illness.
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Goat milk is not only more healthy and nutritious than regular milk, but it tastes better
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>>692765430
>unfortunately it will never work in our sort of democratic libertarian society
Indeed. It would only work if people were educated--or more accurately, indoctrinated--from birth in the benefits so that it eventually became 100% voluntary.

>we value individuals rights rather than the future of society.
Exactly. The western world will be a victim of the multiculturalism meme, as well. We're letting low IQ people into the first world and we're getting rape game playing refugees as a result. The rapefugees ironically enough will probably win the genetic war because they aren't inhibited by things like a conscience; they spread their genes forcefully without even considering the consequences while we sit on our thumbs, terrified of offending western liberals by actually wresting control of the ship called humanity.

>If you guys havent read Huxley's "Brave New World", I would recommend it.
It's on my reading list. You should check out Mutation Planet by Barrington Bayley while we're at it. Despite being written in '70s, it touches on a variety of topics you've written about extensively on this blog. Basically, it's about a group of scientists (from different alien races, including humans) exploring a planet where a nigh-supreme being inhibits evolution by slowing mutation with a genetic mist; the only things that are allowed to happen on this alien world are the things he decides will not interfere with his genetic interests. It also briefly examines the naivete of multiculturalism jingoists who naively assume everyone has the same agenda by presenting a parable of sorts when the scientists all have different reactions to the de facto god of this planet.

I highly recommend it. It's a very short story and you can read it online here:
http://weirdfictionreview.com/2015/06/mutation-planet/
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>>692765977
Without genetic diversity a species can not overcome disease and changes in enviornment, see banana trees for instance.

Bred to perfection, each a clone of the other, and any kind of new disease wipes out the whole crop.

You can't breed people without them becoming weak over time.
Just look at the British.
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>>692766452
Apathy about what? Apathy about politics? Apathy about being social? Apathy towards entertainment news or celebrities? There are a ton of things that people should be apathetic about.
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>>692766321
>It wasn't a strawman devilman see
>Oh, you did see it.
You're responding to two different people, genius.

The second post was responded to by me in my next post: >>692765666 Catch up, huh?
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I think tumblr is a nice website and the hate it gets is unwarranted. The userbase that everyone gets so up in arms about (whatever sjw shit) is 90% internet boogeyman and most are average people.
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>>692766669
How can slavery be 100% voluntary lol
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>>692766407
I agree
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>>692766758
Apathy towards your fellow man. There are things to be apathetic about, but the well being of our peers should not be one of those things.
To look at somebody and say "I don't care about you or your existence" is unhealthy, both to the one who things in that manner and to the people around them.
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>>692766825
Not really
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>>692766944
Yeah well I hate people. Including you.
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>>692767098
That's gay
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>>692766669
Edit: I actually copypasta'd that last paragraph from an email to a blogger, which is why it says "you've written extensively on your blog."

But it applies to this discussion. Just wanted to clarify why I mentioned a blog.
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>>692767098
Don't ever let that edge dull my friend.
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>>692766694
Popular misconceptions is that species evolve or change because they need to change to adapt to shifting environmental demands; biologists refer to this fallacy as teleology. In fact, more than 99 percent of all species that ever lived are extinct, so clearly there is no requirement that species always adapt successfully. As the fossil record demonstrates, extinction is a perfectly natural--and indeed quite common--response to changing environmental conditions. When species do evolve, it is not out of need but rather because their populations contain organisms with variants of traits that offer a reproductive advantage in a changing environment.
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>>692754871
OP deep down inside I completely agree 100% with you. I pretend to go with the notion that there are multiple genders because I have a friend who is transgender but honestly, I think it's all bullshit. She became a man, she has always had fucked up issues, she always got on the band wagon when it came to being emo, scremo, goth, a cutter, and all that shit. I believe it is a mental disorder and that people just want attention. I'll never admit IRL though as I don't want to be shunned by everyone for having a different opinion then theirs.
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>>692767170
Just a side note
If you think IQ means anything you're literally wearing a fedora
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I agree with OP.
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>>692766880
You're lost at sea if you think the discussion is about slavery.
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>>692766694
Your banana analogy doesn't hold water. Bananas are all virtually clones of a closely related parent plant, the trees as such are very susceptible to infection. The history of bananas is quite interesting actually but I don't think culling the crop of reproductive humans would have as big of an impact as you suggest on our fragility.

Think, just 5000 years ago our population was much much smaller and inbreeding was routine. Humans have persisted and managed to advance. And we're not arbitrarily picking who reproduces. It would be based on IQ and mental and physical fitness and health
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>>692755333
Dude i agree with this so much.
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>>692767353
So true anon
Just wait when trans becomes mainstream they'll find something new to be a minority
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>>692767247
Do a barrel roll
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>>692767320
Agreed
So I'm not sure what that has to do with eugenics being good
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>>692767437
Eugenics is slavery
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I think that people should be "allowed" to take the law into their own hands, depending upon the circumstance. Such as; if someone rapes and kills your child, you should be allowed proper vengeance. That is only an extreme example though. There are other "lesser" crimes, some not even classified as "crimes", that warrant this. It will save money in the courts, lawyers, and give the victims closure.
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>>692766944
Why should anyone care about everyone else? What so you are interested in every single person you meet? Why? Get a life dude, nobody wants you to be interested in them
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>>692767478
Now that's a strawman lol

Also IQ is garbage nonsense, everybody knows that
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>>692767581
Just means that there is no ultimate organism.
We might want a "stronger" species but what we want might not be what is best in the long run.
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>>692754871
Men often have problems with hygiene. They smell bad, are dirty, have dirty and wrinkled clothes.

Men lack patience and often make rushed but wrong decisions. Maybe that's why if the leader is male, he needs assistants to fix his shit

Men are weak to female's appearance. If female looks good, they will try to do anything to make her like them and that's pathetic.

Men are incapable of raising child or taking care of another human being. They are too careless.

Men are lead by hormones and only goal in their life is to have sex, which is, again, pathetic.

Men are weak to pain and illnesses. When they are ill or injured, they can't do anything and want to be taken care of.

Men have no deeper thoughts or emotions besides their instincts, so they are like animals. Like monkeys, far from human level

I could go on and on
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>>692767354
>If you think IQ means anything
It does mean something. It's not the end-all, be-all but it explains certain things. Low IQ, for instance, is closely associated with violent crime. Prisons are full of low IQ people from low IQ ancestors.

Intelligence was an evolutionary response to demanding environments. People from warm climates such as Africa evolved high testosterone levels instead of intelligence because they didn't need a lot of intelligence to survive; they just needed to be physically strong to win land wars between tribes and breed like rabbits in response to malaria. This definitely explains why so many sub-Saharan Africans are aggressive, warlike people who rarely develop technology, instead preferring to fight, rape, enslave and kill one another (including ethnic cleansing).

>>692767816
>Also IQ is garbage nonsense, everybody knows that
Not so. See above. People with higher IQ are far less likely to commit violent crimes.
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>>692767478
>Your banana analogy doesn't hold water.
I'll have you know bananas contain plenty of water
>Bananas are all virtually clones of a closely related parent plant
True
>the trees as such are very susceptible to infection
As was said in the post
>The history of bananas is quite interesting actually
Thanks for that input
> I don't think culling the crop of reproductive humans would have as big of an impact as you suggest on our fragility
You've completely lost me here

>Think, just 5000 years ago our population was much much smaller and inbreeding was routine. Humans have persisted and managed to advance. And we're not arbitrarily picking who reproduces. It would be based on IQ and mental and physical fitness and health
If random breeding was good enough then, it's good enough now, the proof is in the pudding.
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>>692768026

Agreed but switch all genders and I still agree.
People are flawed in general.
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>>692768026
Oh fuck
Yep this is gonna be unpopular
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You can't ever convince someone to do something

"Transgender is bad" will get you nowhere
Beating the shit out of someone will get you nowhere

The only way is to mindgame them to the right path, or to kill them.
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>>692767749
The ability to care about others and see things from their point of view is extremely important. That's how we build with one another and relate.
Apathy does nothing but tear those things down.
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>>692767816
>strawman
>Without genetic diversity a species can not overcome disease and changes in enviornment

Sterilizing people with genetic diseases can only positively impact mans genetic diversity. You do realize humans have about 25,000 genes, and genetic disease probably makes up less than 1% of that. It's not a strawman, I'm addressing your point. You are wrong.
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>>692756251
Yes testosterone is the abnomoly and being male is a genetic mutation. Go fkin killurself u 16 year old summer cancer
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>>692768172
Excellent post. All true. Read the 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene, if you haven't already. It gives great examples of all of this in effect.
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>>692768034
>Low IQ, for instance, is closely associated with violent crime
So is poverty, water quality, social services, food education and healthcare, etc etc etc

>Prisons are full of low IQ people from low IQ ancestors
That seems like an opinion

>People with higher IQ are far less likely to commit violent crimes
What is corruption, what is manipulation, what is theft... these "nonviolent" crimes have costs far reaching and may very well impact those "low IQ" peoples' decisions.

>Intelligence was an evolutionary response to demanding environments. People from warm climates such as Africa evolved high testosterone levels instead of intelligence because they didn't need a lot of intelligence to survive; they just needed to be physically strong to win land wars between tribes and breed like rabbits in response to malaria. This definitely explains why so many sub-Saharan Africans are aggressive, warlike people who rarely develop technology, instead preferring to fight, rape, enslave and kill one another (including ethnic cleansing).
This is classic eugenics talk which, since I'm arguing against, doesn't need to be broken down. I say it's complete bollocks.
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>>692764286
Not all genetic diseases are hereditary. I don't think (I'm not a biologist so I don't know) that this would be as effective as your hope.

Second, what are you proposing we experiment on humans? We already do, we just try things on animals first to avoid wasting humans.
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Scientific facts no matter what other peoples opinions are are facts in the end. OP. What you state is a scientific fact. It isn't an unpopular opinion. It is a delusion that has been pushed on society because of radical ideology.
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>>692767816
>Also IQ is garbage nonsense, everybody knows that
Your continued reiteration of the idea that IQ means nothing--almost chanting it like a mantra--suggests to me that you probably took an IQ test at some point in your life, fared poorly and promptly concluded "This IQ stuff is all a joke!"

You scoring poorly on an IQ test doesn't mean IQ is a joke; it means you're stupid. Do humanity a favor and sterilize yourself, genetic trash.
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>>692768280
That literally means less genetic diversity, and I'm not whoever you think I am
>lower the gene pool
>more good genes

how even do you think
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read a book
save a life
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>>692754871
I agree there are only 2 genders but there is actually a medical condition that causes people to be transeggual
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>>692768280
>Sterilizing people with genetic diseases can only positively impact mans genetic diversity.
Truth.

People need to get over this Butterfly effect indoctrination. We are not all interconnected and essential to the good of humanity; some of us are a blessing and some of us are a burden.
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>>692754871
all white girls look the same. Can't tell difference between ass, tits and body most of the time.
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>>692768708
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>>692765180
>Ok here's a few opinions of my own.
>> medical science is ruining humans by taking away evolutionary trend that supports survival. Instead it allows weakness to breed

This fucking genius wants to send us back to the goddamn stone age. Why don't we feed all of the intelligent, extremely specialized scientists, engineers, and shit to saber toothed tigers? Survival of the fittest isn't necessarily the best idea if the smart people that advance the human race don't possess the fitness needed to survive.
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>>692768207
>ability to care
>see things from their point of view
These aren't mutually exclusive statements.

>How we build with one another and relate
Caring for other people isn't why advances are made. It's self-preservation and competition.

Imagine you have two teams. One is made up of people who want to do right by everybody in the group, and another of people who aren't concerned about each other and just want to get the task done for self-interest. The apathetic team will be able to speak freely, hash out ideas and achieve compromise without having to tiptoe around anyone's feelings in the group. Someone has a shit idea, everyone says "That's a shit idea, move on to the next". In a group of people who are concerned for each other everyone feels they must hear each others opinion out. That's why we are living in a bureaucratic nightmare of a society. People are too concerned about everyone's feelings and can't think objectively. I strongly disagree that apathy is a bad trait or is damaging to society. If you are so needy that you need everyone around you to care about you, that is your problem and I think the world would be better without so many sensitive people
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>>692768708

Who the fuck even talks like this
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>>692766694
>Just look at the brits
I kek'd
But wait there's more, after brexit they will have more chances at fucking their relatives
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>>692768939
You're definitely a burden
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>>692755333

YES!
Be a good goy and don't reproduce if you're a healthy, white male above average intelligence!
There are enough fleshlights for all of you!
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I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *** retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding
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"Kill anyone with a low IQ"
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>>692769165

People who have a decent grasp of the English language.
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>>692755333
Without procreating the human race woul...


I hate the internet
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>>692769330
You're wrong about that friendo
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>>692769330
You may think you are smart.
But I am smarter.
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>The Force Awakens > A New Hope
>Sodom is a meh tier Thrash band
>Black Metal > Death Metal
>The Darth Bane Trilogy > Star Wars Original Trilogy
>Cruel and unusual punishment should be brought back
>Morbid Angel > Death
>True equality doesn't and will never exist because all people are not equal
>Kylo Ren will most likely be held in higher regard than Vader by the time the ST ends
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>>692768504
Not the guy who wrote it, but the part that you say is complete bollocks is historically accurate. Maybe you don't think the evolutionary aspect of it is, but people are very touchy about how we classify modern man as a single species, yet when you study zoology and species classification its quite odd that we are the exception in how vague we define our species. Darwin himself was called a racist for his separation of the races but I believe it is true. Its an interesting topic that can't be dismissed as "bollocks" just because it may offend people. It's worth reading about. And I dare you to compare it to other classification schemes for other families in the animal kingdom.
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Who's to say people who believe in eugenics are smart themselves?
I mean you all seem pretty fucking stupid to me, especially for arguing in favor of something that's widely dismissed as anti-science.
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>>692767641
Regardless of the absurdity of your idea, how would it save money? You need people to regulate and enforce this shit or you'll have guys revenge murdering someone over bumping into them accidentally.
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>>692768708
Not the person you are arguing against. I scored extremely high on a psychologist administered IQ test. I scored in the 99th percentile in perceptual reasoning index, specifically in visual puzzles, and concept formation as well. Unfortunately, I am a diagnosed autistic and I scored extremely low in a few areas as well. From what I understood during the testing and talking with the psychologist, IQ testing does a pretty decent job as measuring ones intelligence but it doesn't mean a whole lot in a practical standpoint. I mean, I have very specific talents, but so far I have found no real world value with them. Sure, I agree with you, IQ is a great way to measure ones intelligence, but it also doesn't mean success in the real world.
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>>692754871
>unpopular

this is a very popular and correct opinion
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>>692769552
It's not historically accurate though, eugenicists just say it is, classically.
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>>692768588
Genetic diseases are all hereditary. Not "experiment on humans". Sterilize humans who have undesirable traits so they can't reproduce.
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>>692769552
We are one race... that's basic anthropology 101
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>>692754871
That's not an unpopular opinion. It's actually very popular.
The fact that you think it's unpopular shows that you pay a lot of attention to the retards that support such stupidity (which makes you think such opinions are truly held by the majority of the population) and/or the media really is generally biased towards the regressive, far left.
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>>692760407

Thanks.
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>>692768708
IQ literally does mean nothing - there aren't even standards for testing it
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>>692769697

That will be a bloody war.
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>>692769470
>dat edge
how does it feel to be a fucking meme?
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IQ tests have proven niggers are inferior.
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>>692769165
People more intelligent than you.

>>692769056
>>692769326
>>692769400
>Can't win argument; must spam fedoras
Find some traffic. Play in it.

Thanks,
Management

>>692769647
>IQ is a great way to measure ones intelligence, but it also doesn't mean success in the real world.
I certainly agree with this. It's most obvious when you consider the fact that people like the Kardashians are worth hundreds of millions while people with PhDs are forced to accept jobs as janitors. (And I do give the Kardashians for being a lot smarter than the characters they play on TV).
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>>692769866
>>692760407
Someone was bullied in school
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>>692768786
>positively impact genetic diversity
taking out undesirable traits. My meme degree is in biochem. I think you are underestimating the scale of the human gene pool. I'm not going to go back and forth on this issue. If eugenics had any negative implications, they would be entirely social and not genetic.
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>>692769891
You go on 4chan. You're a meme in your own right as well
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>>692768034
I just don't think killing/sterilization is something that should be based off an IQ test. IQ tests are just like any other tests you write. Sometimes you do better than other times. What if someone has a bad day and does bad on their test? Also, you can practice for IQ tests, which in my opinion is contrary to IQ being set in stone and dictated by genetics.
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>>692769938
You... fedora'd your own fucking post?
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>>692769891
>insulting people for being edgy on 4chan while being edgy on 4chan
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>>692770071
It's called irony, Tyrone.
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>>692769938
It's alright, eugenics has always been dismissed as lunacy.

You can try to argue with an anon - and lose - or read a book maybe, I don't know.
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>>692769985
stop triggering me you shitlord.
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>>692769963
You are no one to comprehend what's desirable and what's not.
Taking out anything lowers the available amount, understand?

If I have 3 apples

And I eat 1 apple

That doesn't mean I have 4 fucking apples you god damned idiot

>My meme degree is in biochem
>f eugenics had any negative implications, they would be entirely social and not genetic

Better work on those grades son
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>>692770132
Yeah, not in the sense you think
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>>692754871
Funny. Most ppl in finland seems to agree with you in this matter. You should move here.
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>>692769938
Yeah, I saw that all too often when I worked for the government. There were people with Masters and PHDs working GS 5 and 6 positions (30k to 32k a year) while highschool drop outs who served our country were quickly promoted to 100k+ a year upper management positions because, "America". Don't get me wrong, I have respect for those who served our country but I don't have respect for the idiots they become and the power they hold within our government due to preferential hiring.
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>>692763076

This is the reason we need abortion. I feel dumber after reading this pretentious pile of shit.
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>>692769938
You desperately need a reality check

Congratulations, you belong in the unpopular opinion thread on 4chan
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>>692768708
Really? I can't exactly prove it to you over the internet, but I took multiple IQ tests (for school applications, counselling, and in order to get accelerated classes at my high school). My scores were above average, but the amount of variation from test to test was somewhat worrisome if people are to be sterilized based on it.
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>>692770434
Can't get trolled if the 'troll' is sincere /b/ro
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>>692769697
I was responding to his other point of legalizing human experimentation.
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>>692770449
Check a mirror
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>>692770515
Unless you are given a 3+ hour long IQ test by a qualified psychiatrist or psychologist, you are doing it wrong. Those tests were not IQ tests (the school ones). They were placement tests.
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For anyone not up to speed
The Eugenics movement began as part of a desire to eliminate "genetically inferior" groups. In the US, it was heavily supported by rich white men (Rockefeller, etc). This went along with the heavy immigration restrictions seen in the first part of the 20th century.

The idea of preventing any more "unfit" people from being born was widely supported. For example, in Connecticut in 1896 they forbade anyone who was "epileptic, imbecile or feeble-minded" from marrying from fear of passing along those traits. Basically, you were fit if you were "socially mobile", but since the upper & middle classes were primarily white people, this reinforced the idea that the white race was the most genetically fit.

For a time 30 states had compulsory sterilization laws in effect, that were targeted in large part against the mentally retarded (termed 'imbeciles'). The Nazis used the 'success' of forced sterilization in California (where it was practiced the most) as proof that such a thing would be feasible in Nazi Germany.

There were at least 2000 forced sterilizations performed on poor black women without their consent or knowledge. Many other groups were targeted, like Native American women.

Eugenics was heavily aligned with euthanasia, or "mercy killings" of "defectives"

In light of the atrocities committed by the Nazis, who as you mentioned were huge proponents of eugenics, public opinion in the United States towards the idea pretty much soured, whereas the majority of (white) US citizens had previously supported the idea.
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>>692759259
I'm with you up to the part where you assume whites do much better... ok nigger would do much worse and africa would be cleansed in a few years. Asians would own us all though.
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>>692754871
Nothing is binary in nature. There are apparent males and females, but chemical composition can vary. Males can generate female hormones and vice-versa. No single human is 100% Male or female, and for the most of the population the opposite gender is completely unexpressed. Other example is the LGBT population, where the gender is crossing the 50% mark of own gender to the opposite. You're a little gay inside, yourself.

tl;dr: gender is not binary, plz die. Or, you know, educate yourself.
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>>692770755

We are currently able to detect many early genetic anomalies in utero, and parents have the choice to end their pregnancy or not. But what constitutes a disease? Are Autism spectrim disorders diseases? Should anyone with Autism be culled from the genetic pool? Who gets to decide that? If you have scoliosis but are otherwise healthy, are you too unfit, too far from perfect, to be allowed to pass on your genes? This paragraph is clearly just speculative, but it's something that I think you should think about in regards to eugenics.
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>>692770651
its fake either way bro
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>>692764892

>unable to counter-argument

Congratulations retard. As much as you think you're the smart one here, you are looking like a quadraplegic pedophile with downs syndrome compared to your peer.
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>>692769727
No. We are multiple races. We derive from several intermediaries of hominids, into Homo Sapiens, a single species. But what I am arguing is not based on anthropology, but rather taxonomy. When you look at a finch from one part of the world that evolved over a few hundred years and has slightly different markings, and a different song and subtle differences in features, in taxonomy it would be a different species of finch. Darwin tried to do the same with humans. It makes sense, Classify humans the same way you classify the rest of the animal kingdom. Homo Sapiens that evolved in Eurasia clearly have different features than those from Africa or the Americas. I'm arguing the taxonomy is wrong, and the only reason is wrong is people are sensitive about semantics. As shakespear said: "Would a rose by any other name.." People shouldn't be offended by calling different races a different species based on physical differences. However I think if you do that you must seperate the historical species from the species which we are becoming as diversity impacts reproduction. People think humans aren't evolving because we are abstracting our own taxonomy.
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>>692770862
I completely agree bro. Now lets chug some natty light and play some beer pong, right bro?
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>>692770900
You're reading super early into the thread, and getting super mad about it too.
That anon is long gone anyway
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>>692770807
You sound like a tumblr faggot, there are men and women - that's it. Also you are straight or gay; all that other stuff is bullshit for the mentally ill.
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>>692754871
There are more than two sexes (intersexuality!) and gender is a social construct, so there can be as many genders as you want to have.
Educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
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>>692770901
Wrong
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>>692770955
That sounds pretty gay bro
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>>692770755

And the world is a much better place now. yup.
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>>692769697
Genetic diseases are not always hereditary. In the original post I replied to, down syndrome was mentioned. People without down syndrome give birth to children with it. How is that hereditary? If you had ever taken a biology course you would understand how mutation works.
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>>692771037
Getting better every year
People used to drill holes in eachothers heads
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>>692770798
>Asians would own us all though.
No, Askenazi Jews would own us all with their superior IQs.

https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/06/08/the-highest-iq-in-each-race/

But here's the thing--they already do. They just do a fantastic job of blending in to the background. And it works. They get unsuspecting saps >>692770755 like to decry the evils of rich white men like Rockefeller to distract you from what's really going in the world.
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>>692770996
Your wrong
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eugenics are bad because racism is bad mmkaaay
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>>692770983
Actually, educate yourself instead. Lets not use wikipedia for fucks sake and lets see what the American College of Pediatricians has to say shall we?
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children
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>>692769095
> thread called "unpopular opinions"
> faggot responds to unpopular opinions by getting his jimmies rustled
Fucking newfag
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>>692771183

I'll flush that paranoid nonsense down the toilet where it belongs, thanks.

First eugenics and now jews. Great conversation 4chan. I tip my fedora to you.
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>>692770833

Wouldn't the objective be to eliminate the genetic anomalies? Unfortunately emotions get in the way.
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>>692771298
Are you replying again because he didn't reply the first time?
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>>692770539
Which one?
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>>692754871
Correct.
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>>692770901
Biologically we are one species though. Argue about semantics and labelling all you want, as long as interracial breeding produces fertile offspring, they are still separate races, not species.
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>>692771339
With... science, not forced abortions. My god. There is no god. I'm in hell right now.
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>>692766452
So because you have no control over your emotions, and watching people on the other side of the world not getting to eat sandwiches makes your pussy-ass mangina cry, those of us who would rather care about the ones we love should suffer.

Seriously fucking kill yourself, you poor excuse of a human being. And take your entire genepool with you.
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>>692771364
Apparently all of us
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>>692770901
Illogical
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>>692755650

That still means there are only two genders you twat
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