Suck it up

stop being a bitch

>>692652655
Switch to coke zero....

No more sugary drinks

Water or Zero drinks, diet drinks

Count em callories

>>692652655
Crack is a more effective when dealing with appetite. Try that instead. Or have you ever seen a fat person who consumed crack?

>>692652946
Reasonable but useless advice.

If I could just "suck it up" i'd just do it.

I wouldn't be asking for advice If I could do that man

Walk, run, stay active, do what you're doing.
Grains are okay, they're an important part of your diet.
Meat is good to cut out, especially red meat.
I eat beans like every other meal because they're protein bombs and just taste fantastic on anything.
Smoking will increase your metabolism but fuck you over in the long run, that's your call. You need to be able to breathe. Same goes for coffee.
Aerobic exercise. It sucks, it's the worst, but it is your bestest bestest friend and the more you do the less it will feel like holy evaporated hell.
Good luck, it's hard work but worth it all the way.

>>692653231
>Coke zero
>Insuline
>Fat fuck getting fatter

Don't listen to idiots op. Crack is the most effective medication to deal with adipositas

>>692652655
Force yourself not to eat. After a couple days you'll adjust and it will be easier

Just go for a run its not hard plug ur head phones in and run for 15-20 minutes and try to push your self if you need to stop then stop but you won't get better unless you try and fail

>>692652655
>so that I'm not wheezing and dying while I work.
>smoking cigarettes
...

>>692653231
I don't drink any type of soda at all.

Water and orange juice is about all I touch, and as for counting calories.

I've started doing that just recently, I'll keep it up

>>692652655

>A MILE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

walking a mile on flat concrete is literally fucking nothing

try jogging 10 miles up a steep hill

>pack is two weeks old
Smoke more, eat less.
When you get the craving to eat for "taste", go for a drive and smoke instead.
Or just have some self control you fucking fatty.

>>692652655
>>>/fit/

>>692652655
>started smoking
>started up a jogging routine

Pick one, you fat retard.

>>692652655
Eat lots of carrageenan, in fact buy it in concentrated bulk and drink the shit. Hope it gives you major colitis problems that force you to starve and shit yourself nearly to death.

I lost 70lbs in 2 months and wound up in the hospital before I realized it was carrageenan fucking me up.

>>692652655
i have different problem, cant get any weight
190cm/73kg

>>692653421
>>so that I'm not wheezing and dying while I work.
>>smoking cigarettes

I know i'm crazy right? But as far as I can tell i've not had any changes in breathing whatsoever since I started smoking, not like i'm gonna light up when I'm at work or on a run.

>>692652655
Make sure you work out, and stay active. Replace eating with make going to the gym, or on a walk if you are a cheap basted like me. Also, I lost about 60lbs because I pretty m7ch just replaced food with coffee (I usually drink black deathwish espresso) and found it pretty easy to quit my overeating. Once you slow down your consumption, it becomes easier to eat less as you don't have as much desire to eat. You will also like more healthy food with more flavour than that gross greasy garbage you probably eat now.

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>>692652655
Hike mountains. 2 hour hikes. 3 days a week. Fucking lose weight.

if you can get it....try amfetamines like speed
you'll lose your apetite for atleast a day at a time and it's cheap as fack

>>692652655
Smoking is way more worse for you than obesity, and is super addictive as well. Combining the two together guarantees a very premature death. You could literally have a heart attack in your 20's combining the two.

>>692653445

Here's a few tips...

Stop drinking juice. It's loaded with sugar and not nearly as healthy as eating fruit.

Eggs are very filling and relatively low calorie.

It's much easier to not eat calories than it is to exercise them off.

At 280, you need to keep going after losing 40 pounds.

Try out an app called my fitness pal, links with Map my run, Map my walk, and Map my ride. Record what you eat religiously, exercise daily, ???, profit.

I've lost nearly 5 pounds a week for the last six weeks. Your goal is a bit unrealistic, though. You'd have to eat very little and work out a ton. Settle for 20 or 25 lbs.

>>692653794

Yeah I know, I'm planning on getting down into the 180s or so, it's just I want to get down some so work isn't so rough for me.

It's just a start is all.

Can do on the juice though.

>>692653445
Orange juice is extremely sugary, and has a lot of calories. Almost as much as sofa. I'd recommend avoiding juices.

crack-cocaine

I went from 300 to 210 by eating less. Have you tried that? People don't get to 280 from eating normally. I got on a high protein low carb diet that helped me lose a shit ton of weight.

>>692652655
i'd suggest lifting more than cardio, the more muscle you have the faster you burn fat.

you can buy a fuckton of chicken eggs/legs/thighs for nothing, just cook and eat those when you're peckish. and yeah avoid bread/grains/soda/etc.

"Less grains and meat"

What is your logic in doing this? Because it sounds healthy?

HIIT + ketogenic diet + intermittent fasting = tried and true fat loss method

>>692652655
Dude, drink fuckloads of water.
I don't care if you hate the taste, but if you make yourself drink at LEAST 1.5L a day of pure water, (and not many other liquids, since we don't want your kidneys cicling through 4L of stuff a day) for two months I ASSURE you you'll have avoided eating tons of shit, which will in turn have made you lose a lot of weight.

It's just water. Buy a big bottle and be sure to fill it up in the morning, drink gradually, and have it depleted by night. Every night. You can do it, OP.

>>692654000
all of you faggots giving actual advice instead of checking my trips. fuck this faggot thread

>>692653884
To clarify, I was able to maintain this rate of loss because I'm considerably larger than you.

>>692653481
Not op but what is this post supposed to even mean? Are you saying you think a 280 pound man with little to no exercise routine is just going to be able to run up a steep hill for 10 miles?

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>>692652655
Hey fatty mc fatty - drink water - make sure you're hydrated. When you feel the urge to smoke - drink some water, it'll help get your mind off it. When you feel you want to eat between meals - drink some water - it'll give your stomach the feeling of being full.

Also - don't eat preprocessed and canned shit - it'll top you off for a bit, but you'll usually feel hungry again after an hour. Eat plenty of fruits and veg - keep some bananas and oranges around for healthy snacks.

>>692652655

Low carb works well for short term weight loss, like what you're trying to do. I'm not convinced it's healthy to follow for extended periods, but it does help obese people get their insulin resistance under control and shed fat. The quick early water weight loss is a good motivator as well, because you can shed about 10 pounds the first week. Just know that it's water weight, not fat loss.

>>692654268
What a sad little life you must have.

>>692652655

Find weight clinics in your area that advertises phentermine as one of their weight mgmt plans.

On phentermine, I lost 1-2lbs a day. Makes you have ZERO appetite. Had to force myself to eat some days.

If you do it, stay away from caffeine and drink 64oz+ of water per day.

>>692654054
While that's good generally, in OP's case since he is wheezing at work and all, I think cardio could be good for him as far as health goes, since chances are his cardiovascular system isn't at peak. Don't want a heart attack in five years or anything.

>>692652655
Amphetamines and painkillers. You won't care about eating at all for days at a time. Dropped 100 lbs in a year on this program from 240-135.sure you'll be a junkie but you'll be skinny and get all that party girl pussy and die sooner, which I think is a win-win for everyone, you fat sack of shit

>>692654373
skinny, sad and pathetic tyvm. seriously though, fuck yourself for giving actual advice like a faggot

You're going to constantly feel hungry for a month or two while you cut down on foods. There is nothing you can do about it. Nothing. It will get better after your body adapts to eating less. Just continue eating less and staying away from sugar. Also, keep up the jog. And stop smoking you retarded fuck.

Head over to /r/keto . Lots of useless people posting but read the faqs in the side panel. Went from 297lb to 198 and still losing weight. Easy mode dieting no exercise required

>>692652655

I heard avocado was really good for diet. I used to eat 1 avocado / day for about 2 weeks (even if i'm not really fat) and I lost 10 pounds without doing anything.

Eating avocado will have incredible benefits on you.

+it's really good in a salad.

cut out sugars and carbs and youll do it no prob

>>692652655
>you can't out-train a shit diet
>burn more calories than you consume
>you need to know around how many calories you're consuming. You should only be eatting 1800/day.
>STAY AWAY FROM CARBS. (pasta, white bread, etc.)
>EAT MEAT, and good fats
>Lift heavy (if you have weights or a gym membership), be consistent

By the way, jogging a mile isn't really going to do shit for you trying to loose weight. I mean, I don't know how inactive you are, but you really need to be more concentrated on time rather than distance.

>>692652655

So, first off you colossal retard, quit smoking. "I don't want to be wheezing at work, so I'll just take up smoking" Brilliant.

Eat goddamn vegetables. Just a fuckload of veggies. Vegetables are cheap as hell, taste pretty good, make you poop right, and have almost no calories.

The lie spread in America is that fresh food is expensive and fast food is cheap. Absolute bullshit. People are lazy as fuck and vegetables "taste bad" so people buy McDonald's and are hungry and hour later.

A one pound bag of mixed frozen vegetables is a 1.79 at my local supermarket. Any kind of mixed vegetables you like. That whole pound of food has 150 calories.

Throw in a bit of brown rice (more fiber, more filling) and stir fry the veggies in a bit of sesame oil (does the same thing as other oils but adds a lovely "Asian" flavor) then top with hot sauce for more flavor.

Vegetables. Eat vegetables. No more sodas, none. Water is vastly better. Learn to appreciate black coffee, or coffee with just a bit of milk or cream, no sugar.

Snack time? Carrots. Don't eat three pounds of them at once, your stomach will hurt and you will shit nothing but carrots. It's weird. Zuchinni or cucumber slices, bell-pepper strips. Un-buttered popcorn. Great TV or movie watching snack and low calorie. Gives your mouth something to do.

Before you eat something ask:

Is this made with mostly sugar? (Soda, juices)

Has a primitive society used this food as a staple in their society to stave off literal starvation? (Potatoes, bread, cheese)

Does this only taste good because lf the fats and oils used in it? (Anything fried, burgers, chips)

Then don't eat those things.

>>692652655
Drink a lot of water. Like 100 OZ a day. When Ur hungry down a bottle of water. That will kill a lot of your appetite

best advice i can give to someone losing weight:
don't confuse thirst for hunger. if you get in your daily water dose, you don't crave soda, you just won't drink it.
secondly, fiber is what makes you feel full. this is why it's bad to skip breakfast because this is usually the time when you get fiber.
you will be surprised at how full you feel with moderate amounts of fiber.

>>692654252

>at least 1.5L

That's not even the minimum recommended daily water intake

>don't want kidneys cycling 4L

Your kidneys function better with higher water intake. You should be drinking at least 3-4 liters per day if sedentary. Up to 6-8 L if very active or sweating a lot

>>692653336
What's the deal with Coffee?

>>692652655
Workout more, lift not just cardio, you won't lose as much weight because muscle weighs more than fat but it will help you lose more fat overall and make you look better. I've lost 45 lbs quickly before but you're not gonna do it in 2 months it took me about 3 and I worked out at least four times a week and ate about 1500 calories or less per day

>>692652655
Ketogenic diet op.

The hardest part about a diet for an overweight person is breaking the food addiction. You need to retrain yourself tothink of food in a utilitarian fashion instead of using emotion. By emotion I mean the thought of "what sounds good?" That is eating with emotion. Once you break that cycle it is much much easier to lose weight and the ketogenic diet will do it for you.

>>692652655
>so that I'm not wheezing and dying while I work
>I started smoking
nice b8

>>692652655
Literally eat 150 grams of carbs or less per day. That's it. That's literally all there is to it.

>>692652655

Try to fast completely at least one day a week. A lot of people choose Monday because it's a good opportunity to get over any weekend binging that might have taken place.
Fasting is seriously an amazing thing for the body.

My other half had been trying to lose weight for YEARS with very little success, regardless of diet or exercise.. When they started fasting once a week, weight started dropping off.

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>>692652655
Most people follow what's called a grazing diet schedule. This means they eat a little bit all day (snacking between meals). Limit yourself to only eating the last 6-8 hours per day. It's called intermittent schedule fasting or something. I lost about 15 lbs in a month using that and cycling about 20 miles a week, which isn't much

>>692654492
/thread

>>692655132

>other half
>when they
>they

I think I found the homo

>>692652655
>I started smoking as an attempt to cut back on my apatite,


So, basically, you are worried about being a fatass who might die of heart conditions. In an attempt to avoid that, you start poisoning your body with carcinogens and you have an obvious learning disability to boot.

Okay. I'm cool with all of that.

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OP here; I have a lot of you fucks thinking i'm some greasy dribbling neck beard that lives off fast food.

I can't blame you for thinking that, but the weight i've put on is from a lot of years of my youth being spent at a desk, hiding from a lot of shit, I don't eat healthy, but i'm not going out buying fast food and stuffing my gullet with ice cream and doughnuts.

Really appreciate all the advice though

As for the smoking bit, I'll think on quitting, probably end up tossing this pack out in a day or two, tastes shitty and stale.

Really appreciate the advice i've gotten though, next time i'll go to /fit/ and let them rip me a new one.

do hard drugs, you wont want to eat when youre on meth or cocaine

>>692655309

Would you prefer a trophy, or just a good ol' fashioned thumbs up?

>>692652655
TL:dr
Eat less, move more.

>>692652655
stop fucking eating

>>692655449
I mean.... you're not wrong. I just can't decide if that's worse for him....

>>692653276
fucking pussy im coming off methadone cold turkey and your a fat fuck that cant stop eating and you say its hard go fuck yourself

>>692655438

You can't really burn enough calories by "moving" to make up for overeating. We're talking 2 hours of swimming for a large fry.

Exercise has a lot of positive benefits, but if you're interested in losing weight you literally only have to eat less.

Look up the calories in your snack food. Look up the time spent running it would take to burn it.

Realize it's 2-4 hours.

Eat less.

>>692655438
At meals, drink a bit of water in between mouthfuls of food. Also fresh (or fast frozen )fruit/veg is better than canned but bear in mind that fruits full of fructose (sugar). Ive heard that before about avocados being okay though. More activity - jog to store every day instead of every other day. Or try alternating running hard as you can then walking a bit, then running. Really running.

>>692652655
hey OP can i see your foot?
also did you post last night?

>>692652655
Isn't losing that much weight over such a short period of time unhealthy anyways?

Either way, I guess just deal with it. I don't know much about losing weight because I've been stuck skinnyfagging for all my life.

Smoke pot?

yawn - smoking won't help.

how tall are you? I'll assume about 6'0 and have had little training before.

1. get your diet straight - you can literally get tables on how much shit there is in products It seems complicated but it is REALLY simple.
2. find a diet plan, that is supposed for weight loss. It states protein and carbs you need daily.
3. prepare foods and STRICTLY follow your nutrient regime.
4. Take up sports - do basic - running, bench press, squats, deadlifts, biceps curls. nothing more. Do it 5x a week for 1 hour every day.
5. continue till the result is achieved.

remember - CONSISTENCY is the key. you must do it no matter what.
I personally struggled with bodybuilding - I liftend and lifted and became stronger but almost no more muscular at all.
So I had to majorly adjust how often and how consistent I lift and eat. I ate when I felt (so not that much) and lifted about 2-4 times a week with inconsistent sleeping and heavyness.
Once I had all that in check I grew incredibly in muscle in literally 2-3 weeks - started lifitng 4x week really heavy, lots of rest, lots of lean food. .
Same goes for weightloss.

smoking won't help.

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>>692656225
Nope, and here's a picture of my disgusting long toenails

Gonna go cut them after I shower.

>>692656499
Just noticed the hair on the pillow too, god I'm classy

Eat clen, tren hard, anavar give up

Take 10,000mg of arginine first thing when you wake up and right before bed on an empty stomach. Go full on Atkins diet to get the carbs to under 20 grams a day. Get exercise and drink plenty of water and enough fiber to keep from getting constipated. Try biking or swimming to save your joints the hammering they'll take from jogging.

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>>692656499
there's your problem.

you are unkept. careless, have bad grooming habits.
That's why you are fat.
If you have bad (even disgusting) habits in one sphere of life, there is a huge chance you have bad habits in others. If you can't fucking do basic grooming, you probably haven't learned basic eating.

I started at 300. Now I am at 264. It was very simple OP. Limit sugar to 7gm per meal and cards 150 per day. The food choices are endless. Sugar and carbs are what make you fat.

>>692656499

you are a disgusting piece of shit

Two months is not long enough. Not without some pretty serious work or drugs. I have lost 44 pounds (I started at 220) it took me 4 months. I did it with no drugs except for nicotine.

Your going to have to really put the fucking work in. Also fuck your shitty expectation, its going to take way more time than you currently expect. Also your going to have to deal with what ever shitty faggot mental issues you have that got you that fat in the first place.

>>692656807

Tis' true, I am an unkempt monster.

I never shave, I never shower, I am literlaly a ball of sweat and death oder.

obviously because I don't clip my toenails every day is the reason i'm a fat fuck.

Thank you for your wisdom.

>>692656016
I'm coming off H cold turkey rn how goes it bro

first post in this thread can't be bothered to go through it all but this is guaranteed and has other benefits too...

Go to your doc, get diagnosed with ADHD (do some research on how to be plausible with this, but it's not hard)

Ritalin / Adderall whatever you get put on is a MASSIVE fat burner and huge appetite supressant.

So, as well as making you a laser-like focused beam of energy on whatever you do, you will never snack again and you'll burn off whatever fat you do put in your body.

But whatever. Stay fat if you want. I don't care. Bye.

>>692656854
THIS

>>692656724
Anderson silva?

>>692653507
Not op but evening on fit is an asshole

>>692657228
wut?

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>>692657025
>obviously because I don't clip my toenails every day is the reason i'm a fat fuck.

yes, that is exactly what I am saying.

>>692652655
Lol youre not gonna lose any weight AND get addicted to cigs.

Retard you deserve it.

>>692657038

it's tough i was on 115mg methadone a day for 4 1/2 yrs. i was on heroin for 4 years before that and tried everything to get clean but couldnt at that point, ended up going on methadone and that got me clean from heroin but methadone is harder to come off than heroin. now im determined to get off everything. i wish i just cold turkeyed off the H though. oh well, better late than never.

>>692652655
I sort of get this "addiction" that you have and I feel that you need to practice with self-control. You have to overcome yourself mentally and realize if your habit persists, you'll die an obese man. Some people are okay with that (no they're not), but I can tell you that eating relatively healthy and working out are to your benefits when placed in certain unsuspected circumstances. JUST DO IT. Easier said then done, of course, but man. I been on 4chan since 2008. It was then that I went on to /fit/ and met Zyzz. He was hated then by some, and is hated now by most, but unless you met him, you'd never understand him. He motivated me and other friends to change, and so, I did. If some skinny fucking pixie stick like myself can become nearly shredded, so can you. Be a sick cunt, brah. Get shredded! Good luck.

Just don't fucking eat that much.
wtf is wrong with you?

hey you know what also helps not eating?
tapeworms.
and cancer.

>>692653374
Consumption of coke zero has no insulin-related effects that are confirmed by the literature in any measure. It literally has no calories, why the fuck would it even trigger an insulin response in the body. It contains fucking aspartame. We've been using aspartame as a sweetener for almost 100 years now, you'd think if it caused an insulin release, we might have seen it (hint: we haven't).

>>692652655
go to /fit/ and read the sticky.

>>692652655
The mistake most people teying to lose weight make is thinking exercise is the primary thing that makes you lose weight.

Exercising is about 10-20% of the weight loss you'll get. Dont get me wrong, it has many health benefits, too many to list here but the primary force is diet.

For soneone that works out hard 4 days a week, your natural metabolism and calories burned digesting food is 80-90% of your daily calorie burning.

In fact, some people go backwards because of exercise. They feel more hungry and think they "earned" a cheat meal. One greasy piece of pizza defeats an entire exercise session.

Personal trainers will tell you this. Focus about 80% on weight lifting because it increases your resting metabolism all day every day. 20% on high intensity interval training (sprint for 30 meters, walk for 100, repeat 10 times). That burns insane amounts of calories.

However, focus mostly on eating. No carbs after 6pm, carbs in the morning to fuel your day. Lots of healthy protein, lots of fiber to make you feel full. Soon, your stomach will shrink and you wont be able to eat a lot in one sitting. Eat 6 small meals a day to keep the metabolism burning.

This is the only post you need. Godspeed fatty.

>>692656016
Oh just wait dude. I came off methadone 2 months ago (lofexidine detox) and now I can't stop eating. Fucking hungry ALL THE TIME. I never put weight on before in my life and now I'm having to count fucking calories.

Good luck with what youre doing though.

>>692652655
Use the fucking standard metrics

>>692656807
>because being clean is definitely what gets you fit, not going to the gym regularly...

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All you need to do is buy a permanent buttplug and let the food fill you up.

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>>692652655
BRO JUST GET PRESCRIBED AN AMPHETAMINE OR AMPHETAMINE DERIVATIVE AND YOU WILL SAVE SO MUCH MONEY AND NOT GET LUNG AND ASS CANCER


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>>692652655
>eat less food
>do more physical exercise
>eat healthier food
>drink a lot more water
>don't smoke, vape instead (as much as I hate myself telling someone to be a fag and vape)
You'll lose pounds by the dozen doing these simple things

>>692658358
it is not the causality, but it is obvious correlation.

he doesn't like to clean his body, hence he probably doesn't like to work on it as well.
>>692657356

>>692658157
He speaks truth. While I was never fat, I never could get muscle, though I lifted a lot and became really, really strong.
Once I started eating properly I boomed.

Eating is definitely the most important factor in weightloss and as important as lfiting in musclegain.

>>692658169
really? methadone made me gain weight if anything. everyone always complains about the gaining weight part thats on methadone

how and whyd you come off methadone? didnt expect anyone else to be on that crap here

>>692658501
>obvious correlation.
bullshit. I see no reason why cleaning oneself has anything to do with how much 'willpower' someone has, if that's the argument you're trying to make. Otherwise you're literally just trying to link cleanliness with fitness, which is a patently fallacious argument.

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>>692653236
The old mayor of Toronto

>>692653374
Can confirm. Have done crack before.

>>692658398
completely uninterested in fat loosing, but I am an academic and want to experiment with adderall or ritalin.
Is it easy to get subscription? It is basically meth after all..
I imagine I could bribe the medic, but is it easy to get normally? Or by faking adhd?

>>692653236

>rob ford

>>692658940
>medic
>subscription
>bribes
Confirmed shit tier country

>>692652655
Hi fatass.
It's all about sugar and simple white carbs, just cut all that shit out, and move more. No sweetners either, that shits poison too. Lots of protein, fruit and veg, Don't worry about zero fat, don't count calories, just eat well and move more, 10k steps or more a day.
Drink a pint of water with a double shot of apple cider vinegar in before breakfast. Sounds gross but isn't bad and boosts your metabolism.
Good luck Anon.

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>>692653636
You're a fucking moron. Smoking will affect your lungs long before it affects your metabolism. You don't need a cigarette in your mouth to start losing your breath. The education system has failed you spectacularly if you think your wheeze will get BETTER with smoke in your lungs.
I've lost three people in my life SO FAR to cigarettes. Two more are currently dying from it. All because they had the same mentality you do. Somehow you're all special and it won't do any of the bad things to you.
Stop while you have a chance. Don't be my grandfather, who said he could quit whenever he wanted while he was on his death bed. Or my aunt, whose symptoms appeared overnight and she was dead within a year and a half. Or my dad's wife who drives us all crazy with her constant coughing and $150 inhalers putting them in the poor house.
On the plus side, chemo dropped my dad from 250lbs to 100 over the course of a year. Shame he got it all back when they stopped pumping him with radiation.

>>692652655
Eat healthy and less, start running, do push-ups, do jumping jacks, literally sweat, drink water as the only liquid, ignore milk, ignore sweets, but DO get calories, otherwise you die off.

Destroying your computer is also optional, if you dare.

Masturbate, or get blue balls.

>>692652655
Start fasting. Stop being weak.

Or stay weak, that's your call.

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>>692658157
Holy shit dude you've basically just distilled /fit/ into a few sentences. You're a bro, anon, keep up the good work

>>692652655
>kill self
>be in ground
>decomposition
>you're getting lighter!

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>>692658818
grooming takes
1. will power, since grooming de facto is not a necessity to survive (just as being slim)
2. an aesthetic outlook on life (which fat people also lack)

these two are pretty closely correlated.

ALSO - just for the Op's sake - even if he'd be a well groomed fatso it would be 100x times better already.
Stop putting twigs in his fucking wheels.

>>692659181
>dont count calories
Weight loss is simple; burn more than you absorb. Sure cutting sugars and carbs helps, but youre making it more complex than need be

>>692659077
Yeah,I'm in the US and is a shithole

>>692653481
when youre 280 pounds yeah it is you dense sack of shit

>>692658717
I never put weight on with the methadone.Was on h, then methadone and h both, then methadone alone for 7 years. Just figured i wad getting older, and thought if I don't get off it now i never will, had the chance to do a lofexidine detox so i did it. Have tried coming off both have and methadone cold, failed multiple times, lofexidine really made a difference for me.

>>692652655
Smoking does decrease apetite and relieves anxiety. The problem is it can get out of hand fast and actually prevent weight loss by turning you more sedentary. Having said that and not being judgemental, the only long term smokers who do control their habit are those that don't smoke daily so that is ideally what you would aim for. Being realistic, as you'll get cravings for food daily, you've got to time your smoking so it's only a few a day, say less than a handful... You can try weed to try and zxone out exercise and then tobacco (say a couple of cigarrettes) only when the cravings get really bad...

Don't consume any drinks besides water. No refined sugar, no refined carbs. Try to avoid dairy and meat as good as possible. Stop smoking its not helping. It'll just lead you in an addiction. Thats how I lost 10 kg in 1 month.

>>692659077
yep.

I also barely hear of ritalin and aderall, while it is definitely known here.

>>692659437
Calories in calories out is a failed mantra, it assumes a 1000 calories of donuts is the same as 1000 calories of vegetables.. which is clearly retarded..

>>692659441
no it isn't you cuckhole, if you dont like it, an hero and get the fuck out

>>692652655
Alright fam, I lost a lot of fat and gained muscle mass by doing this:
Ate 1/3 of what I usually eat and haven't ate anything sweet. Listen while you cut on your food you HAVE to train. Running won't get you much, I've tried for a month, didn't help me much. You have to workout. It WILL help your body to become stronger, Trust me, I cut down my belly and ass in half. But remember, eat less, no candy and anything sweet (besides fruit ofc) and train a lot. It will be hell first month, but you'll get used to it ;)

>>692659690
ya sure.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

>Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds

>>692659510
>lofexidine

interesting. never heard of that drug. is it like vivitrol?

>>692659690

i found the fatty

>>692659626
It is the same dumbass. Only difference is nutrition of each. If you eat 1000 calories of anything, you need to burn more than 1000 calories.
Nutrition wise, yes vegies trump

>>692659426
the fallacious argument you're making it to say since he MAY lack the willpower to groom properly (we don't know why OP is disgusting- seriously please cut your toenails OP it hurts), he CANT have it to work out. And that simply doesn't follow. And the notion that fat people lack "an aesthetic outlook on life," is hilarious prejudicial. Fat and thin people can be just as schlubby, I fail to see how one's weight can effect one's sense of fashion (other than to perhaps preclude one from certain styles, but that's not particularly reflective upon a person's "aesthetic outlook on life.")

>>692659832
What is diabeetus?
The retard is strong in you..

>>692659690

ever heard of thermodynamics?

or physics?

>>692652655
Take it seriously and cleanse.
Then stick to a vegi diet with little to no meat and very little carbs (Celery, carrots).
You can just about eat as many celery sticks as you want throughout the day, just go easy on dressing and shit.

As for meals and stuff, get some weight watchers chicken or some shit, not that fatty Giant Eagle chicken.

Your appetite will fix itself once you get used to it, but the hardest part is the first week or two.

No matter what anybody tells you, physical activity is important but it alone won't help you lose any weight. I lost 30 pounds in the past 3 weeks and all i've done is sit on my ass, eat celery and go to work every once in awhile.

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>>692659690
you have no idea what you're talking about please stop

>>692652655
Go get some advice from Tyler1

http://themilitarydiet.com/military-diet-plan/

use this you can lose up to ten pounds in a week, I tried it and it worked

>>692659983
>diabetes
>weight-loss
Pick one you colossal faggot

>>692659983
see >>692660059 and >>692660112

>>692653231

Don't listen to this stupid fuck. The artifical sweetener's in "diet" drinks actually increase your appetite. Stop drinking soda, period, it's is quite literally liquid candy.

Drink lots of water. A good way of curbing your appetite is to eat sunflower seeds. It helps with the oral fixation and wanting to taste something.

>go all out, get type 2 diabetes
>Get invokana or metformin
>Start diet
>Shit and piss out 40 pounds
>Workout alongside it to lose excess skin and build muscle
It's unconventional but I KNOW the whole "im working and nothing changing" aspect is aids so use those medicines to guarantee loss

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more carbs, less food overall, and more endurance workouts. you can do it

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>>692660157
See
>>692660087
Let me guess you like your large pizza cut into 8 pieces because 12 pieces is just too much?

>>692659690
just like a ton of bricks are heavier than a ton of feathers

ex dee

>>692652655
> go to /fit, they can help you.
>smoking is a greater hazard for your health than being overweight. Dont pick it up. Its hell. (trust me i know)

>>692660087
This is bullshit, fast and exercise is the way

>>692660431
Aint that the truth

>>692659901
>>692659911
>>692660028
>>692660059
>>692660112
>>692660157

Diet tips from autistic teenagers.
Winning at life OP, these guys will look after you.

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>>692652655
Literally all weight loss/gain is decided by one thing:
>calories in
>calories out
Want to gain weight? Put in more calories.
Want to lose weight? Put in less calories.
This isn't rocket science you fat fuck. Smoking isn't going to help, especially if you're barely smoking anyway.

>>692660087
What's with the ice cream? And wtf kind of meal do you make from tuna and half a banana?

>>692660213
>The artifical sweetener's in "diet" drinks actually increase your appetite.
[citation needed]

It's just fucking aspartame they use to flavor sugar-free sodas, not goddamn poison. Aspartame does not increase one's appetite, we have over 50 years of studies confirming that. idk where people get this ridiculous idea from.

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IS DIARRHEA MANDATORY FOR WORKING OUT?

Start taking adderall

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>>692653481
You dumb son of a bitch.

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>>692660553
Can you seriously not comprehend the mistake you made?
>inb4 pic related

>>692654252

This is largely bullshit. Hunger and thirst are two entirely separate mechanisms managed by the brain. Not only will water not alleviate hunger, but it is passed out of the stomach extremely quickly, so not even the bloated feeling in your stomach lasts.

I know this sounds like a dumbass idea and it probably is, but just stop eating in general for like 2-3 days a week. Not in a row though, space them out so you don't die, but your body will quickly start eating the fat to keep you alive so, it might work.

>>692660431
false, obesity is worse

obesity and smoking however is a killer combo...

protip; smoking for over 25 years a pack a day roughly increases your chances for getting cancer by 2.5 to 5% on average

obesity over a 30 bmi however cuts down 10% of your life

>>692652655
Get into alcohol and shrooms

>>692659962
whatever.

be dirty and fat, I really don't care enough to read all that.

>>692652655
SS + Gomad

>>692660803
Eh, kinda. The body is pretty amazing and it will slow down your metabolism, the best way is to occasionally fast
If he doesnt eat for a period of time longer than like a day, it could actually make weight loss worse

>>692660733
In some cases one can confuse thirst for hunger, so drinking enough water can help to alleviate some minor aspects of overeating. Otherwise, you're completely right. It can also help with the oral fixation (drink water instead of eating shit to have something in your mouth).

>>692658157
>>692658677
>>692659370
Also, quit drinking if you can. Limit to once a week or once every few weeks. Only to be social.

I was working out like a beast and had a clean diet but got shitfaced 2 or 3 times a week and saw little progress. Empty calories that make you want to eat more empty calories and be lethargic.

Basically, the replies in this post is the end of this thread. Nothing else needs to be said.

>>692659835
Shitno, vivitrol is slow release naltrexone, an opiate blocker. LofexIdine is a drug that was originally prescribed for hypertension then it was discovered that it reduces noradrenaline production, and it's that effect that helps with opiate detox. For me, whenever I tried coming off shit cold, it was the slowing down of time that made it impossible for me - like when youre slicing hours up into quarters and telling yourself you won't look at the clock again until at least 15 mins have passed, do that 4 timeso and that's a whole hour you've lived through and won't have to live through again, and then you look at the clock and realise that what you really believed was15- 20 mins gone by was actually only FOUR FUCKING MINUTES and what should take 3-5 days in realtime is actually going to feel like 15 to 20 days in subjective time...

Anyway, lofexidine made it so I came off it in real time. 15 minutes went by in 15 minutes. And for me, that made it doable.

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>>692652655
In order of importance you fat fuck
1) Calories in calories out, start tracking, use myfitnesspal, you should be at a 500 calorie deficit
2) Hit the gym and lift heavy weights
3) count your macros
4)get on top of your micro nutrients or any deficiencies you might have
5) go to the doc get bloodowork done and ask for advice.
4

>>692652655
Cocaine makes you not hungry at all. You could go without food till you die on coke.

>>692660891
tl;dr your best argument is logically fallacious and you're too lazy to maybe why you're wrong.

>>692660805
smoking actually has a greater impact on life expectancy, sourced via the REGARDS study which I work on doing data analysis. It's close though, I think obesity was in the 10-12% decrease range, and smoking was 13-15% (those numbers might be a bit off)

>>692661416
> too lazy to maybe why you're wrong.
to read* (I CAN SPEAK ENGLISH I SWEAR)

Be poor. I'm trying to support myself on less than 500 a month and I only have money for like ramen and hologna sammiches and shit, right now I have $2.15 to last me til next Friday.

Eventually you get so sick of the same food you start skipping meals and drinking water since you don't have money for soda or shit. I'm a fat fuck but I've dropped about 20 pounds in the last couple of months on the poverty diet.

>>692652655
two things:
1) Soylent. Replace all of your meals with a soylent shake. 400 Calories and enough nutrients. 3 a day is 1200 calories, enough to have energy, not too much to get fat from.
2) Couch to 5K. Sets up a gradual routine that you can customize to some extent so you can get some good running in.

really the name of the game is willpower. suck it up bitch

kys nobody likes a fat loser

>>692652655
Eat the same thing every day. Or at least every week. You'll get tired of food and if you're preoccupied with something else you won't mind skipping a meal. Just don't overdo it on the rebound the next meal. That's what happened when I joined the military because chow hall.

Stop eating bread.

The greener the better

Drink a glass of water before every meal and you'll eat less.

Eat a fruit as a snak between breakfast and lunch

Eat a vegtable as a snak between lunch and dinner.

Fruit for midnight snack.

>>692661014

Sunflower seeds work best for this. Any time there is something tasty in your mouth you don't feel the hunger in your stomach. Sunflower seeds take so much time to extract from the hull and have so little calorie value though that the net calorie intake is next to zero.

>>692661977
And it's 70% DIET and 30% Exercise

>>692659835
Oh hey are you in the states? Cause I just realised lofexidine is not yet licensed for the USA, though apparently the FDA are currently running clinical trials. There's another, similar drug called clonidine that should be available in the US.

>>692662069
Absolutely, but I run into this problem with sunflower seeds and other similar nuts - they're most often sold salted and roasted in oil. That turns them into basically slightly better chips.

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>>692661190
oh yeah and ignore people telling you to "STOP EATING HURR" MAKE SURE YOU EAT DURR"
Remember it's calories in calories out- right now don't worry about anything else, just eat less

>>692662274
almost any amphetamine will have similar appetite-supressing effects. Bur long term use (read: dozens of years) can cause psychosis.

Oh, and for those guys who were recommending cocaine, 2 problems:
1) Expensive af (especially after time)
2) can kill you - each time you dose with cocaine there is an (admittedly small) chance of going into cardiac arrest. Risk exacerbated if you have underlying heart conditions, and since OP is fat and we don't know how old he is, this might be the case.

But coke sure as hell will suppress your hunger

Eat healthy, exercise

Literally all you need to do

You can take an idiot to information but you can't make him think..

"The theory that the number of calories you consume vs. calories you expend determines your weight is false. In reality, the equation is far more complicated than that, due to the fact that human beings are incredibly complicated biological machines. If you take more than a moment to contemplate the notion that a unit of energy as simplistic as the calorie can precisely determine the makeup of your body, you’ll realise just how absurd conventional thinking is.

In reality, the way that different types of food influence the chemical reactions within our body has a huge impact...."
http://healthyenough.net/calorie-counting/

Former fatty mcbutterpants here.
Went from 335 to 202 in 11 months.
Will power has a lot to do with it. No other way around it. But practically, spend your time in a gym and in the kitchen. In the gym- lift. Develop a lifting routine that you find fun so it doesn't become monotonious. After weights, do some form of cardio intervals for 30 mins. Lifting burns off calories and carbs you have in your system and by the time you do cardio, you're burning all day reserves.

Kitchen- protein. Your body eats muscle for fuel before it eats fat. To keep muscle and to build muscle you need protein. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn. Sad but true.
Eat foods like the way youd find in nature. The farthest it looks from fresh out of nature, the probably worse it is for you. (pizza, cake, pastries..don't find that shit in the,forest running around).
White meats. Grilled chicken, turkey, tuna, salmon. Non fat dairy cottage cheese, yogury, cheese and milk. Egg whites.lots of water. Complex carbs sweet potatoes brown rice..lots more but that's a start good luck kid. Nothing tastes as good as being fit feels.

>>692663944
what routine did/do you use?

BTW, about the rice, I just read this article that said basmati was the best rice, followed by brown, and long-grain white. The worst being short-grain (in terms of the proportion of complex to simple carbs).

>>692662274
that's probally it then i am in the states. i've used clonidine before during detox/rehabs but don't have any prescribed to me. it does help though.

>>692662361

I only eat Big's sunflower seeds. They are roasted but there's no oil and dusted with salt which has 0 calories. The salt isn't great but as long as you keep up the water intake the effect on your body is minimal.

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>>692652655
Pretty much the same situation here. I vut back on the beer. For sure putch the cigs as they are counter productive. Just try and cut down on calories. Eat fresh fruits and veggies and chicken and rice and shit. Cut back on calories. Getting up and exercising you are half way there OP. Cut out or cut back on energy drinks and pop and shit.

>>692653231
This

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>>692652655
>pallman
>waton conchetumare

>>692658940
Yeah dude get subscribed to adderall

Lmfao

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>>692653377
This also. I am a fat but lost weight a few times and currently for the last time. First few days suck ass. Then its easy.

>>692654680
>>692652655

This

Also, becoming a smoker while trying to adapt to a jogging routine is going to fuck you up. All the process you'd make with jogging would be reversed by smoking. Cut out the cigarettes.

>>692664507
I hope you get through it okay. I have the utmost respect for people who manage to do it cold.

>>692652655
Ketose diet

>>692664411
As far as what type rice, don't get too wrapped up in that stuff it'll drive ya nuts. If you plan on being in competitive bodybuilding, learn up then. Moving from fat apron and rolls to solid with roadmap like veins doesn't have much to do with types of rice.

I did a 5 day split. Monday is chest (internationally i think lol) Tuesday is back, Wednesday is shoulders, Thursday legs and Friday arms and core. Weekends rest.
4 different exercises of 8-12 reps on that body part always followed by 20-30 mins of cardio.
Remember, you're focusing on changing, but losing mass. Mostly everyone else in the gym is focusing on "gettin dem gainz".

Do the exercise correctly. Don't even begin to think about weight on the bar. The temptation is there to try to be a powerlifter right away, but this MUST be about becoming healthy or itll never stuck.

Let that be a motivational tool. Get healthy, then lift for life. Use all that shit life gave you of being fat, being made fun of, the girl that dissed you, someone close to you dying, whatever...use it as hate to fuel your intensity.

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>>692652655
Sex

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>>692666510
Oh, I know. Thanks though. Just thought I'd share that bit about basmati cause I hate brown rice, lol. So not all white rice is terrible.

I've been lifting for like 3 months now. I'm just starting to hit plateaus. Otherwise shits good. I just want to be prepared for when just slaving away at the same weight won't work anymore. So far so good though.

and like I said, thanks for the advice.

>>692666510
also I'm not OP, lol.

>>692653231
Don't drink any sort of diet shit. It's terrible for you. Didn't help you lose weight and increases risk of diabetes. Just drink water.

>>692660614
Look it up then. And sort of sugar fake or real increases appetite.

If you are really interested in loosing weight you shoudl watch forks over knives!

>>692652655
theres this shit called soylent. get the 2.0 version if you can. Complete nutrition 400 calories a bottles. Trade out a couple meals for these and eat a good healthy meal at the end of the day.

>>692668116
I have looked it up. Multiple reviews of the literature concluded that there was no significant link between aspartame and any sort appetite stimulus. The only thing aspartame is reported as causing is a nocebo effect, if anything.

Just do the 1000 calories a day diet, you will lose 1 to 2 pounds a week. If you eat even less you will lose more. It sounds extreme at first, but with your current body weight you can afford a couple weeks of starvation.

>>692667558
Oh ok sorry man haha. Hard to tell anon from anon. Yeah there's so much frickin info in fitness it's head spinning for newbies. If I knew then what I know now, itd be intimidating to try to learn before I start. But, you're never done learning.

Long answer, no, I've never heard of basmati being better than brown rice. I'll have to check it out some time.
I've pretty much narrowed food groups to colors to keep things simple. Of course I cheat, of course this isn't all inclusive but it's a decent start:
All meat is white and grilled (turkey, chicken, fish)
All pasta is brown
All veggies are green

Non color rules: only fruit is grapefruit or pineapple and only in the am, all dairy is non fat and allowable.

I know those aren't all there is to know
I know that that list is nearly impossible to keep down 100% of the time. Make a cheat,day once a week or vary it by eating a whole pineapple in the am..whatever you feel you need, do it. But if you strive for that diet you'll succeed.

There are some crunching sounds at the back of my mind about "hrrrgh... appetite suppressant... there are chinese herbs that do that... maybe gynostemma (jiao gu lan)... Mormon Tea (American ephedra)... actual ephedra... hoodia gordonii..." but the only safe one on the list is gynostemma, which can be made into tea, and I do not know if it is very effective. Aside from that, since your appetite is big, put it to good use - at each meal, first eat a small amount of jerky or other protein with fat, then get a fuck ton of vegetables, prepare them plainly in salad and steamed/blanched, and eat as much as you can of them at every meal BEFORE you get to the other stuff. That way you should fool your body into eating less bad stuff and less calories. And the other stuff should be completely without sugar, dairy, alcohol, soy, white carbs, and processed anything. You'd do well to check out www.anabolicmen.com for guidelines to boosting testosterone and muscle.

just start doing speed. lost 20 lbs on it

Oh, and this is going to sound strange, but eating more fat and protein may help. Whenever you get a craving for sugar or carbs, eat some jerky or something similar instead.

>>692654000
Witnessed

Gluten is a bitch, do not eat it. I also forgot - KEEP INTAKE OF CAFFEINE HIGH. Be it black coffee throughout the day or green tea (whose antioxidants are great to burn fat but which also lowers testosterone), it boosts your metabolism. I'd go for 3-5 cups of either, or both.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcommand2.htm

Best info I could give to anybody right there for real. One main thing is count your calories even if you half ass it. Make sure your carb and protein intake are about even so that you produce more insulin. And eat like 7 small meals a day like lots of light snacks to keep your metabolism up.

>>692654846

Coffee is perfectly fine. It is definitely addictive. Don't get me wrong, you can and WILL get addicted to it. Caffeine headaches amd other withdrawal symptoms suck.

However, caffeine does provide a nice "pick me up" throughout the day. Coffee is warm and has a taste to it so it can help to curb hunger and pick up your mood. Although it is addictive it is so shockingly plentiful that even soldiers in combat zones from WW2 to Vietnam and other just horrid, bloody terrible places still had coffee or tea. It's ability to keep a person sharper and a little happier has made it a prime staple of militaries the world over.

If you want absolutely no addictions or vices, stay away from it. But it has little no no negative health consequences if used in moderation even over long periods of time.

However, do not consume caffeine before a strenuous cardio activity, it raises body temperature and makes you feel like shit while running.

Another thing about metabolism and boosting it is that you cannot sit for more than 30 minutes. Get up and walk around at least every 30 minutes... maybe get one of those step-counting things as an app or whatever. Every bit of incidental exercise counts, and the easiest way for your body to lose the weight it needs to is for you to walk a lot. Ditch the car. I'd aim for 3-4 hours per day of straight walking, plus whatever workout you want.

>>692670057
>Gluten is a bitch, do not eat it.

Food fad faggots are retarded.

I was a hobo once. I hitchhiked across the country and had about a million health issues. All told I was carrying around 70 pounds or so and walking about 7 hours a day, eating whatever shit I could find at gas stations and whatnot. By the time I arrived at my destination, my digestive tract told me to go fuck myself, but I felt and looked healthier than I had been in years. Lots of aerobic and anaerobic exercise, mane. Hot damn.

Chug water. Eat 4-5 Meals a day, but smaller portions. When you get hungry, go eat one of your meals. Meal prep your shit out so you're not tempted to cheat, and also so you can't make the excuse "i didn't have anything to eat so i had to eat shit food / fast food. don't smoke, trading one craving for another is retarded. You want to get healthy, so you start trying to curb your hunger cravings, but start smoking so you can get a different type of craving and thus make yourself not healthy??? That makes no sense

1) Water
2) Eat enough that you have no cravings. Less per meal, more meals a day.
3) Look up 16/8 and how to. 16 hours of fasting, with 8 hours of eating times.
4) Drink more water.
5) Drink coffee
6) healthy fats are good for you, lots of almonds and shit
7) Stop smoking
8) Chug Water.

Stop eating bread, pasta, or other high carb foods. Eating carbs will make you hungry again in an hour. Cut out sugar as well. Once your body stops relying on carbs and empty calories for energy, it will enter keytosis and start using fat for energy. Meats are okay to eat. Pretty much just eat meat and veg. And drink a shit load of water. Oh an minimal salt intake.

>>692652655
Try Xenical or Redotex
Xenical works great you can see the grease when you take a shit like oil, but it can fuck up your stomach if you drink alcohol, you would be all calm then shit stains will come out and you need to wipe is really embarrassing.
And Redotex you lose a lot of weight but you can get a rebounce.
There is also Lasix but you need to drink plenty of water this absorbs the water you`re retaining.
You can go to a No Faggot Sauna or do a Sauna in your bathroom but leave a little window open or you can die in there.
also try Cholal it is for cleaning the toxins from your liver I don`t think you need prescription for that or go to a herb chink store and buy Silmarina it is to clean the liver and toxins real awesome diahrrea.

Do the slow carb diet. I've been doing it since March 1st and lost probably over 40lbs since then, I've stopped keeping track because all the results I'm getting are physical (muscle gain). It's from the "4 hour body" book by Tim Ferris. You can find a PDF of it or find info online. Google it

Essentially 6 days out of the week, all you eat is protein, vegetables, and legumes, and the seventh day is a cheat day.

>>692652655
Not smoking for once
Why on earth would you start to smoke if you already find it difficult to run