I'm a Muslim ask me anything. Don't forget just like Christians we don't
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
I'm a Muslim ask me anything.
Don't forget just like Christians we don't need to be praying all day long to be Muslims. We also sin, therefore, by inevitably sinning we can still be Muslims.
I'll reply to trolls within reason.
>>691842896
do you masturbate? how often? what do you think about when you do it?
>>691842896
how many people did you beheaded?
>>691842896
Vanessa A. H. is a Muslim?
>>691842896
Religion is fucking bullshit and a cancer to humanity.
>>691843359
Usually daily unless I am very busy. Usually, I watch porn or I think of past experiences.
>>691843610
0
>>691843629
No she is half Filipino (Catholic) and half Irish.
>>691843987
How many people you plan to behead in your lifetime?
>>691843987
what kind of porn do you like?
do you like asian girls?
>>691843987
What past experiences have you had?
Tell us in detail.
>>691843987
You like Asian and Filipino girl, hell I already like you!
>>691842896
How do you deal with all the contradictions in the quran?
>>691843905
Religion is simply a form of philosophy. It provides tools to make certain facets of life easier to overcome. It helps many people go through many hardships and become at peace.
In the right hands it can make people better versions of themselves, in the wrong hands it can cause violence.
>>691844157
0
>>691844158
All kinds but mainly only amateur. Almost all of my past relationships have been with asians.
What do you usually watch?
>>691842896
-why are there so many extremists in muslim culture? (not saying you are one=
do you think women need to wear hijab if so why?
do fou find cartoons of ur prophet offensive and if you do do u defend the right for some one to post them anyways?
>>691844670
mostly amateur porn. pic related.
tell us about your relationships, the girls, how you'd have sex with them etc.
>>691844670
I am shocked, a person with common sense on / b /
>a date to remember 28.6.2016
>>691842896
Are all Muslims pedophiles or was Muhammad just kind of a sicko for banging that 8 year old wife of his?
How would your family react if you told them you wanted to marry an 8 year old?
>>691844670
Do you think beheading people is justified if they insult Islam?
hold off the porn faggots, he probably went to fap to it and forgot about us
>>691844670
Would you kill your sister if she fucked/marry catholic nigger and how would you behead her?
Did it hurt to get circumcised?
are you pro or against isis?
>>691844364
I've had quite a few but one that I particularly like is this one:
> Be on a 4 month trip in south east asia with some friends after we graduated
> My friends birthday 09/05 and my birthday is 10/05
> It's currently 08/05
> Nighttime, we are kind of tired we go to a club anyways.
> So many people everywhere, we then meet a few local girls
> We decide to go get a drink a bit furhter out so we can talk
> Start asking them all kinds of questions, theyre answering
> We're debating all kinds of stuff
> Girls are really cute, but still keeping are guard up, we don't knwo anything about them
> Short hair, super skinny, nice tattoos in discrete places she was showing me while everyone else wasnt looking
> I was getting interested
> She works part time selling clothes she designs and makes at a market
> Tell her we'll come check it out since we were going to that market tomorrow anyways
> We go back to the hostel
> She texts me at night all kinds of normal things
> Next day we go to the market, we see her
> She gets all excited that we actually followed through, I guess most people just make empty promises
> She takes us around the market, we get food, eat in her little shop
> Tasty as fuck
> Tell her approximately where we'll be that night to go out and that itll be our birthdays
> we show her IDs cause she doesnt believe us
> Cute as fuck
> Night time comes around
> We go out to eat, we go let loose a bit on soy cowboy
> I text her up tell her we should meet up and that we're heading back to the party street
> We get there, eat more pad thai (ate too much in thailand)
> She shows up
> We party it up, flirting whole time
> Not thinking too much of it
> Later on, my friends start going back to the hostel
> I hint to her that I have a ghetto shared room, so if she wants we can get a room
> She's kind of shy not too down but she agrees
> I get a room quick, wasn't as easy as I imagined lol
i want your opinion on this.
>>691842896
Are you aware that your god is just as non-existant as the christian god?
>>691846351
what about girls gets you horny?
tell us about you seducing them and having sex with them plz.
Own a knife?
>>691846824
Ankles
How can you follow a murdering warlord who married a 9 year old, advocated torture and raping one's slaves and death for any non believers, yet still claim to be a religion of peace and tolerance, the quran is a political conquest manual for fuck sake!
This is now an Asian girl thread.
Post Asian girls.
>>691847434
gtfo pornfag i want to hear him talk, not fap
>>691844364
>>691846351
> I let her take a shower and I run down to get some condoms and water at the nearest 7-11
> I get back and she's gone
> Jokes shes in the bed in her underwear
> I'm hard as all diamonds
> Asian girls are my fetish
> She has hot ass tattoos, I'm losing my mind
> Give her the water, take a quick shower (I was arab sweating the whole day in like 30 degrees with humidity weather)
> We're from the desert not the jungle
> Took less than a 2 minutes, I was diamonds, I couldnt focus
> Closed the lights
> Got on top of her
> It was a good night
> We're doing the whole normal thing
> Lots of foreplay, sex stop for foreplay then back to sex
> At one point, she brings me close and says I kind of like it very rough
> I like that too, but usually wait for relationships to get a bit wild
> I pull her hair a bit while were doggystyle
> We go back to missionary
> She said "I meant choke me"
> wtf.png
> I never tried this before, interested, so I go for it
> Very lightly at first, then a bit harder, I know she can't breath
> She's loving it
> She says "Slap me hard"
> I slap her, she laughs
> She slaps herself fucking hard, "like this!"
> I'm deathly scared that she wants to cry rape the next day so she wants some bruises to show the cops
> So I'm careful, I slap her with the inside of the hand to maximize contact area and not super hard.
> I was a bit nervous, but we went at it 3 times that night
> didnt sleep at all
> First time doing kinky shit
> AMAZING
> Left the room we rented at approx. 7am in a rush to get back to my hostel
> Had booked a bus with my friends at 9am to go to cambodia
> She walks me back, say bye
> Chat occasionally on Facebook
> Good memories.
Did you ever missed the ramadan?
>>691843905
So is /b/, yet here we are.
>>691847652
Answer the questions about your evil religion, fuck your stupid sex stories and taqqiya.
>>691847652
that's fucking awesome! any pics of her?
also tell us about your first time masturbating.
>>691842896
how can you say that you believe in something if you constantly do things that show a lack of faith, like doing things that work directly against the things written in the book that describes your religion
ITT kissing the ass of a carpet kissed LOL!
Op skips all the questions that have valid points about islam
>>691845951
How could it not?
>>691844670
>Religion is simply a form of philosophy
oh, so you don't actually believe moohamed flew to heaven on a winged horse? do you believe apostates should be put to death?
i'd ask similar questions of a christian too btw.. like do they actually believe in talking snakes and if they believe we should stone adulterers, "unruly children," and gays to death in the streets.
Arab here. Post moar porn.
>>691848667
Not everyone who follows a particular religion is a fundamentalist. I'm not OP, I just hate atheist fucktard edgelords like you. You give us a bad name.
>>691848667
Do you believe pedophillia, torture, murder, the death penalty for homosexuality, the beating of women etc is wrong, and if so how can Muhammad be the pinnacle of humanity?
>>691844369
Thanks, I like you too
>>691844538
I take from the Q'ran that which I need to make me a better person for myself and my environment.
>>691844824
I think women should dress the way in which they feel empowered. If a hijab brings a women comfort and self-confidence then it is a tool which betters her, she should be permitted to use that tool. Forcing someone to wear a hijab is un-Islamic in a sense.
I believe that people should be free to post anything that is not hate speech. However, I think it is foolish for someone to simply say or draw something for the sole intent to make people angry, justified or unjustified in their anger.
I do not find a drawing of the prophet to be hurtful to me because I understand the religion to be greater than that. I also understand that the person trying to anger us, is weak in his own way to go to such low levels to incite anger and retaliation.
However, retaliation like what happened at Charlie Hebdo attacks are way worse morally than a drawing of the prophet. Albeit, both being morally reprehensible.
>>691844980
Thanks, noted.
>>691845361
She was 9 years old when they were wed. In many cultures around the world marriage is not synonymous with sex. Just a few generations ago every culture (even European) had marriages happening as early as 13 years old.
Especially in cultures where arranged marriages exist, many children are wed at birth, this does not mean they start having sex. They are simply bind to each other for later years.
Not all Muslims are pedophiles, pedophilia exists among all groups of people.
>>691845504
No, nobody should be killed unless they pose an immediate threat to you or someone else. Self-defense. Beheading prisoners is not self-defense and is morally wrong.
>>691845618
I'm still here
>>691845695
No, my sister is free to marry/date whomever she pleases.
>>691845951
I was too young to remember. No real memories before the age of 5.
>>691846235
Against ISIS
>>691848976
Why the fuck are you defending the indefensible, do you think the man in Saudi Arabia gives a fuck what your faith is, he'll still stone you to death for witchcraft?
>>691849029
The Qu'ran, like the bible, is a wide amalgamation of religions anecdotes, written by many people, over a very wide geographical and temporal divide. Yes, many of those acts are praised in the Qu'ran. So are peace, love and charity. Just like the Bible.
>>691849281
The bible reformed the quran didn't, so you admit that Muhammad practiced "sinful" activities and wasn't perfect?
>>691849231
I'm defending the idea that there can be and is such a thing as religious moderation. A majority of Muslims are not fundamentalists, just like most Christians aren't. Am I defending the beliefs of radical Islam? Fuck no. It's abhorrent. But am I capable of recognizing the fact that not everyone's an unmovable zealot? Of course. Asshole.
>>691849520
>Ends as a sci-fi novel
Tell me how the Bible reformed.
>>691849700
Look at the statistics, it's not the tiny minority that you like to think it is idiot.
>>691849520
>>691849801
I'm not OP, btw
>>691849844
I never said tiny minority. There are more radical Muslims than there are radical Christians. That doesn't mean that a majority of Muslims are radical, though. And, frankly, I think that the ratio of radical Muslims has more to do with geopolitical history than religion itself.
>>691848976
>Not everyone who follows a particular religion is a fundamentalist.
you say that like it's fucking news. you're a dipshit.
>>691850088
Ah so you think all these terror cells have no basis in the quran? You are defending people who would have you convert or die.
According to your beliefs will i go to hell for believing Jesus Christ is the son of God?
>go to google based pudgens because reasons
>this is the first thing that pops up
god get me off this ride
>>691850194
But you implied that all Muslims believe in events like Muhammad's ascent to heaven. That would imply that they're all fundamentalist. Which they are not. Apparently, it's news to you. Dipshit.
>>691850275
bye bye, troll
>>691846417
Not that attractive, but still cute.
>>691846533
Muslims and Christians share the same God.
>>691846824
I'll expand on this in a bit.
>>691847027
Yes, I go fishing regularly.
>>691847134
Not quite, desensitization is a thing.
>>691847415
I already addressed the pedophile part.
Murderer: He lived in a time of war. He also did a lot of good things to change the way Arabs did war. He instituted through Sharia new rules that the Arab had to respect when perpetuating war, such as: no rape, no pillaging, no torture, treating prisoners with respect, freedom of religion for prisoners, and much more. Which is something the west only very recently made law through the Geneva convention.
Did he perpetuate war? Yes, however context is very important.
>>691847434
Please do, I encourage this
>>691847635
Let him, it's good motivation
>>691847920
Ramadan is right now. I don't understand the question.
>>691847982
Yup
>>691848025
I already addressed that religion in itself is neither evil nor violent. It's simply philosophy. It is for the interpreter to mold.
>>691848054
Let me go dig something up. First time masturbating was pretty young watching softcore porn on TV. I was just playing with the noodle and it happened. Wasn't exciting. I started doing it more and more afterwards.
>>691848061
There are many things in the books that I adhere too because they make me a much better person. However, like any human I have faults and I do sin, I do try to make these sins have very little negative impact such as watching porn or having sex. This is relatively harmless. I do try to be generous, helpful, kind, understanding, always there for people, I support people, encourage people, make people feel valued and loved. This is the essence of Islam. The 99 names of God describe the qualities we should mirror in our lives.
>>691848269
Wut...
>>691848378
I am getting to them. I only have 2 hands to type with.
>>691848637
Usually we can't remember.
>>691850194
Sir I'm afraid the cancer covers 40 percent of your lung we'll have to remove it or you'll die. Ah it's only a small part of it nevermind. That's the fucking logic here.
>>691850293
No.
>>691850589
Explain to me how a lung is realistically analogous to a massively wide group of humans.
>>691850589
>>691850849
and, no, it's not 40%. more like 15-20%.
>>691850578
There are literal commands in the quran to kill the unbelievers, Muhammad tortured a Jewish man for money and ordered the death of a poetess who dared criticise him, still think it's not inherently violent?
>>691850578
Moar Asians for you.
>>691850946
And in the Book of Genesis, God kills everyone on Earth. Stop pretending Christianity isn't just as pragmatically violent as Islam.
>>691850927
15-20% of about 1.6 billion is nearly 320 million, so no not a significant figure at all, I'm sure it's fine just to ignore them.
>>691848667
Nigga snakes do talk. Al Wilson know that http://youtu.be/Xd82HxYyHZg
You're a moderate man. Isis would so saw off your head with a butter knife. Bitch ass sand nigga
>>691848976
Those were valid questions you fucking idiot. If you don't believe these things, then you don't really believe in the religion.
"Philosophy" ya, stoning people to death in the street is some real deep "philosophy." Endorsing slavery, that's some really meaningful philosophy..
why does this drive you to murder?
>pic related
why does your religion of peace kill Gandhi (hindu of peace)?
why are muslims too stupid to convert to atheism with all that oppression?
>why cant muslims see how retarded teir religion is?
why do muslims hate women? some sort of faggots?
>>691851154
That's okay yo. God is Caucasian. Not some oil rig nig.
>>691851369
not op but this is the most stupid post posted so far
>>691851279
Firstly, I never said it's a philosophy. Again, I'm not OP. I can see the difference between philosophy and religion.
Secondly, your qualifier would disqualify most Christians from being Christian. Who the fuck are you to define religion for other people. You're just another /pol/fag fascist.
Why be muslim in 2016 honestly? Religion is a dated concept
>>691846417
sauce pls
>>691851794
Valid questions doesn't make them stupid just because you don't like them.
>>691848667
In Islam Mohammed was only a human, he was chosen by God to transmit his message, He did not fly to heaven on a real horse. It's metaphorical. Ask any Muslim.
I do not think apostates should be put to death. People should be free to believe whatever makes them stronger individuals.
>>691848900
It's coming
>>691848976
People seem to not realize this. Thanks for reminding them.
>>691849029
No, I do not think these things bear place in modern society, I have already addressed most of these. You are literally pulling out the smallest slimmer from a whole book.
Why do you dismiss all the good that religion can bring simply because it has a few shortcomings. Why throw away all your tools to become a greater person because you disagree with some of the verses.
May I add, the verses that address these points have less importance in the Q'ran than the ten commandments and the five pillars of islam. Therefore, start by following those principles and then move on to the next. Moreover, the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam trump all other parts of the Q'ran if they contradict.
>>691849231
Saudi Arabia is not a model for Islam. They are the complete opposites, sell-outs for corporate interests.
>>691849281
Exactly. The Q'ran is literally the third installment after the Torah and the Bible.
We have the exact same stories, with the exact same names. We believe in Jesus and his many actions.
>>691849520
The bible should not be reformed, the same way as the Q'ran should not be reformed. God does not stutter, that's why the Q'ran, the Bible and the Torah have the same message. To live in peace and harmony together. If you do violence in the name of religion, you yourself are a violent person.
>>691849700
People hold Muslims to a different standard. Those people lack common sense or logic.
>>691849801
It was revised by King James. It shouldn't have been, that was political and not spiritual in any sense.
>>691851835
It brings some people solace. I don't see a problem with it. The only issue I have with it are pushy evangelical folks.
Anon told me to look at this.
>>691849700
>>691848667
>I'm defending the idea that there can be and is such a thing as religious moderation. A majority of Muslims are not fundamentalists, just like most Christians aren't
and that's missing the point of my questions. i know plenty of perfectly nice "moderate" muslims and christians.. in fact most of the religious people i've ever known fit that description. my point is those people don't actually believe the shit in their religion.
>>691851826
What race is Islam exactly you buzzword using SJW retard?
>2016
>Doesn't know what racism is
>>691849138
>I take from the Q'ran that which I need to make me a better person for myself and my environment.
So basically, like Christians, you pick and choose the parts that make you feel good? Why not throw the whole thing out and choose a secular philosophy?
Do you think that religious belief is necessary for ethical behavior? If not, what's the point in having a religion at all?
>>691852041
Deluding yourself to bring solace? I rather people face harsh truths to be stronger imo.
>>691845361
didnt they get married when she was 5?
(consummate marriage?) then he returned when she was 9?
>>691852088
And I'm saying that it should be up to the believer to tailor their beliefs to what they believe. Fuck organized religion. Fuck clerics who tell you what to believe.
>>691852151
When the fuck did I call him a racist? I called him a fascist, faggot.
>>691852218
Not your decision, bro.
what would you do to this asian girl? go into detail.
>>691852088
But what about the snake
>>691851992
Then explain the calls to violent Jihad and why it literally says fight in the name of allah until all religion is for him, you're a liar my friend, every non muslim should know what taqqiya is and how they are encouraged to lie to further their religion.
>>691852435
You know what fuck it I'll concede that I misread that, my apologies but still I don't see how opposing a facist ideology which is completely against liberal principles makes one a facist?
>>691852519
0/10 would stone in public
>>691851826
Ya, i was talking about Christianity as much as Islam dumbshit. I'm not defining anyone's religion, just reading what's in their books..
>>691851794
>why does this drive you to murder?
>>pic related
hur dur this is stupid
>why does your religion of peace kill Gandhi (hindu of peace)?
gur... retarded. muslims murder hindus cuz multi gods derp
>why are muslims too stupid to convert to atheism with all that oppression?
>>why cant muslims see how retarded teir religion is?
derpy drp. we enjoy stoning gays and adultors praise be allah
>why do muslims hate women? some sort of faggots?
dur we cover women to prevent our own arouasl... black is less arousing than white. women are pigs blah blah
yeah pretty stupid... FUCKING ISLAM IS STUPID
op do you think trump should build a bunch of big ovens and cook up some Muslims?
>>691852944
kek
>>691853058
But you said that if someone doesn't unequivocally believe what's in their holy text, they don't truly belong that religion. That's giving parameters for what it means to be truly religious. Therefore, defining other people's religion.
>>691849844
Let's look at the statistics. Most Muslims don't care whatsoever about global politics or imposing their religion. They just want to live a peaceful life.
>>691850088
Of course, it is simply a time when the majority of Muslims are in a dis-favorable socio-economic context and as a result have less education.
>>691850194
It's news to way too many people.
>>691850275
Terror cells use Islam as an easy way to recruit uneducated people by making them rally around their common denominator, which is their religion.
Any well read Muslim will tell you that whatever any of these terrorists are doing is not Islamic.
More directly, these terrorists don't care about the religion. They just want money and power. In our eyes, as Muslims, we see them more as the mob . They sell opiates, hash, black market oil, people, sex slaves and weapons. This sounds a lot more like the mob than a group of people trying to preach philosophy.
>>691850293
I would not know. However, why be scared of going to hell for something so insignificant. The same way as I am very little concerned with going to hell for posting porno, you should not be worried about going to hell for thinking Jesus is God's son. Surely, God has bigger fish to fry considering all the evil that is done every day.
>>691850355
She's a 1/4 first nations. So it's her culture that she's celebrating.
>>691850589
I study breast cancer, we don;t remove the whole breast if you have a tumor. Why would you amputate if you didnt need to?
Bad example, try again.
>>691850946
Point out the verse with the Jewish man. I cannot believe this to be as you say it because Jews in the eyes of Q'ran are Gods chosen people. They are our brothers, Abraham's other son. Jews and Muslims have lived relativelly peacefully together until the end of WW1.
>>691851073
Nice.
>>691851154
But, all these parts are insignificant to your life so why dwell on them?
ITT: we post the most weirdo stuff who we used to fap. OP starts:
>>691852483
Obviously not, but it's still stupid to believe in a system with a bunch of dumb shit attached to it and something that is used to oppress people throughout the world because it makes some people "feel good".
Like the Orlando shooter, he may not have been a strict muslim, but his dad was and his homophobia was driven was by his religion, and he hated his son for it, and in turn his son hated himself and shot up niggers over it.
>>691853183
>saved to irony folder
organise an LGBT no islamophobia parade in syria
>>691853688
Found Obama
>dubs confirms
>>691853689
foar som reason felt compelled to save
>>691852212
Answer please.
>>691842896
Do you prefer smooth or crunchy peanut butter? I'll take my answer off the air, thanks
>>691853688
here's some real Malaysian Muslim pussy for you, what would you do to it?
Hi, guys I'm OP, I'm a muslim that cherry picks from the book and am trying to show off how moderate I am. Let's be real, I'm not a real muslim, that cares to do any of the basic 5 act pillars of islam.
Please see how moderate I am and ignore the fact that anyone can cherry pick this motherfucker and turn out to be a real good terrorist, fighting for Boku Haram in Africa and spanning to Syria for ISIS.
>>691842896
According to the leader of a mosque that I've talked to, men are allowed to marry a non-muslim but women are not. How do you feel about that and is it true? If he marries a non-muslim is it required she become a Muslim if she's, say, Jewish.
>>691854837
Fuck off fag
>>691853401
>It's news to way too many people.
fair enough. i do forget how many stupid people there are..
>>691853401
no, i said they don't really believe what's in their religion. they can be in whatever group they want and call themselves whatever they want and define their religion however they want. i am very happy they don't believe that shit. the world would be a dark and scary place if they all actually believed what was in their holy books.
>>691854837
>Implying people of all religions don't cherry pick
What's your point
>>691851992
“I have been made victorious through terror”. Bukhari 4:52.220
>>691854273
He's not going to answer because he wants to keep living his delusion of how he is "one of the good ones" and a "moderate"
>>691851181
Let's break it down. Firstly, what is an extremist in your perspective?
I can guarantee you that the number of extremists in Islam is insignificant. Like way closer to 1%. Trust me, i am Muslim.
If 320 million people wanted war, everyone would be dead.
>>691851249
They won't. ISIS does not represent my religion nor the way in which my religion should be practiced. I will not be silenced by them by means of terrorism.
>>691851279
We can discuss all these points, let's just focus and not throw the conversation all over.
Religion is philosophy. Not all parts of philosophy need be roses, it's up to the interpreter to use the parts that make him a better individual.
>>691851369
I've addressed your questions already. What joy does it bring you to disrespect someone else? What do you gain from hurting someone else?
Are you a happy person? If so, let others be happy in their way. There is no need for you to try willfully to make their lives harder by trying to provoke them.
>>691851455
God has no image as it was stated in the Torah. He told Moses, I am as I am.
Catholics misunderstood after their book was revised by fools throughout the years.
>>691851826
Religion is philosophy, all thought is philosophy. Religion is simply thought. I've studied this academically. I'm not just rambling.
>>691851835
I addressed this earlier, and the guy who responded to you is correct. I ask, why not let someone do as they please if it brings them strength?
>>691852088
Who is anyone to decide how a religion should be practiced. I practice my religion in the way it is described to be, therefore I am Muslim. Who is the judge.
Religion is ones struggle against his inner self, this is the meaning of jihad, which Islam is all about.
>>691842896
At what age did your parents enroll you in suicide bomber school? How old were you when they blew themselves up?
>>691853401
How can you be a faithful follower of a religion and reject it's divinely inspire texts? Either you have faith in the legitimacy of the texts or you don't. Half assed religious people who don't believe in their holey books are nothing but agnostics too pussy to let the world know that they think what they worship is bull shit. How can anyone call themselves a Christian while at the same time openly refuting God's word? It makes no sense. These people are Christian like homeopathy is a medical therapy. They claim to be something that, in practice, they are not, for personal, social or economic advantage
>>691855236
Aren't you the one saying terrorists aren't Islamic even though they get their verses that justify their terrorism from the same book that justifies you being a peaceful person?
>>691855601
THIS
>>691855236
My point is, saying he's a muslim has no meaning whatsoever, anyone can say he is not a muslim and they'd be right. A holy book like that came in its entirety, it was Timeless as their prophet said, meaning it is for all people in all times, but yet he cherry picks because he is the oh so moderate. Just abandoned the whole book you limp dick fuck
>>691855453
How can you claim that terrorism has no baces in the quran when there are a ridiculous amount of passages about killing the infidels?
>>691855453
>why not let someone do as they please if it brings them strength?
Because religion still holds humanity back and religion doesn't always stop with the follower. Religion always tries to push itself onto other people's lives.
>>691855453
When mo was asked which Jihad was the best Jihad, why then did he say the one that spills blood?
>>691854837
loook m8 if you believe in allah and sin, you aint muslim
you believe in god and sin you aint christian
your just a lazy religous believer
other words we dont give a fuck
>all our questions redundant
>>691856061
You can sin, sure, but DON'T CHERRY PICK
>>691855601
/thread
>>691852212
OP, stop sucking dicks and answer this post.
>>691855776
Fair enough
>>691855714
That wasn't me, I asked if he likes crunchy or smooth peanut butter
i used to be a muslim
nigga just let go...
>>691842896
What kind of grass should I plant in a high shade area?
>>691856061
If you believe you have a dad and you disobey him, you aren't his child.
Fucking pleb.
You can find strength and comfort in coming terms with reality instead of wasting your finite and singular existence trying to please fictional people. Believing in Harry Potter and Hogwarts can give people strength and comfort and help them deal with the suffering that is life, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be pointed out that they are deluding themselves not that there are ways to obtain and deal with these things without believing fantasy to be real.
>>691852212
Religion is not necessary for ethical behavior. Religion does provide some ethics but it also provides tools to make life easier. Tools that don't exist in any modern context.
For example, the human brain is known to like routine. Therefore, all religions have a sort of routine, whether you pray five times a day, before bed, or infront of an elders shrine. The end goal is peace of mind through routine.
This is only one of many examples.
>>691852218
There is no delusion. It's not ignoring the harsh truths, it's accepting them as realities and then using tools to overcome these hardships.
>>691852242
I addressed this already.
>>691852323
Agreed. Who is anyone to tell me how to practice my religion? I am my own being.
>>691852519
She's alright, I wouldn't mind meeting her.
>>691852547
I have no ulterior motive. I am simply sharing my views and beliefs.
Jihad in its definition is a personal struggle of one against his inner self. Something well described in Buddhism, its goal is to free your mind.
Jihad has been hijacked (pun intended) by terrorists as an easy buzzword for recruitment.
>>691852869
Islam was once a liberal ideology.
>>691853171
No, I prefer to remain at approx 32 degrees.
>>691853689
Already started with the pics if you havent noticed
>>691853749
That's wrong, that is the wrong use of religion. American laws had the same effect until last year on homosexual people. How do you think they feel knowing their desires, which dont affect anyone, are illegal? Still today, how do you think homosexuals in America feel as being different and outcast?
>>691853919
Obama is no longer a Muslim.
>>691854397
Crunchy for sandwiches, smooth for deserts.
>>691854547
Big fan, that looks really nice.
>>691854837
I abide by the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam, therefore I am Muslim. Simple.
>>691855949
Bullshit. Religion, Christianity in particular, has been pushed away and beaten severly for the past 50+ years or more. A single atheist can and has literally put a halt to decades of traditions in several towns and schools. Tim Tebow praying is offensive but Sam whatshisname being gay gets a presidental call.
Kys you idiot
>>691857188
Any positive effect religion can provide can be provided through non religious societies or social clubs that don't ask you to believe in fictional books or claim Devine authority which subverts your reason, ethics, and morals.
>>691857188
did you ever find pics of the girl you were talking about?
we need pics!!
>>691852519
Eat that pussy like it's my last meal.
>>691842896
Just because I'm telling you how much of a piece of shit you are and how you're fucking subhuman trash doesn't make me a troll.
By the way kill yourself faggot.
>>691857188
Being gay was never illegal in the US. You're talking about gay marriage which is a different issue. But a large chunk of homophobia stems from religion. Mainly from the Christians which used the Bible to shun the gays. In the MENA region, they use the Quran instead and many are killed over it.
>>691857504
Not in all areas of the US. And usually those things are unconstitutional anyways, doesn't matter if they are "tradition" or not. Like a teacher can't force their religion on students. Schools can't force religious things on students. People hate on Tim Tebow because he's shit and an attention whore. Literally the whole NFL is full of Christians who don't need to make a deal out of their Christianity.
The president making a call to a gay person is pretty dumb I agree.
>>691857188
does this picture of a chinese girl turn you on?
>>691857188
Oh really? so what do you call the prophet invasions? weren't they Jihad as well? or were they struggling internally? perhaps mentally lol.
>>691857188
>Religion is not necessary for ethical behavior. Religion does provide some ethics but it also provides tools to make life easier. Tools that don't exist in any modern context.
So basically you want something that gives you "inner peace". Why not try Zen Buddhism? Instead you chose a religion with a violent history and backwards/outdated laws which you don't agree with.
>>691857188
>I abide by the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam, therefore I am Muslim. Simple.
And the pillars of belief?
>>691842896
1) There's a meme going around that teaches people "Scientology is basically the same as Christianity, which is basically the same as Buddhism, etc. They all teach the same virtues." This seems like utterly ludicrous PC nonsense to me. But what do you think?
Specifically, if you had to rank the following religions from worst to best--in terms of virtues they teach and the violence or non-violence resulting from these teachings--where would you place Islam:
Christianity
Buddhism
Jainism
Judaism
Islam
2) What are the main differences between Muhammad and Jesus?
3) What are the main differences between Muhammad and Buddha?
4) What did Muhammad have in common with Genghis Khan?
5) Is it wrong to rape non-Muslim women? If so, how do you feel as a civilized Muslim about the droves of rapefugees going on rape sprees in western countries?
>>691857188
Would you fuck a Jewish girl if she begged you to?
>>691858884
No and I'm not even Muslim.
>>691859222
Then you're a faggot. Fag.
>>691858884
I never seen a good looking Jewish female, they all look like deformed middle easterners with that weird ass nose.
>>691855018
Culturally this is practiced, however it does not have very strong roots in Islam. Explicitly it says to only marry people who believe in God. This includes Jews and Christians, Muslims believe that Jews and Christians worship the same God.
In the historical context this was a way to dissuade people from getting married to people who lived wild. Without proper ethics.
In modern times, I think people should marry as they please. Religion does not give the entire basis of someones values.
>>691855355
This verse states that terror was brought onto their enemies. You have never felt fear in your life?
>>691855601
I respect the Q'ran in its entirety. An important part of accepting a text is to understand it, its context, its meaning and its intention.
You are right about the reasons people use religion. For politicians its social, for terrorists and dictators its economic. But, for individuals it's entirely personal. If a person can feel better by using the tools that his religion provides him why will you deny him that?
>>691855789
Becomes, there's even more verses about peace and equality. Verses about education and questioning the world. I don't see many Muslims doing the latter.
>>691855949
Why does it need to hold humanity back? It actually makes me progress in my professional life in ways I wouldn't progress without it.
If religion gets pushed into anyone's face, it is being practiced wrongly.
>>691856042
What verse please.
>>691856061
We all sin. It's inevitable. 99% humans can't live by the ideals of any philosophy. We are too weak as humans. We can't even respect laws, let alone philosophical and moral ideals.
>>691856373
I answered him.
>>691856847
Not an agricultural specialist.
>>691857105
I have already addressed this.
He ignored the Jewish girls question.
Confirmed. He hates Jews.
>>691859936
>But, for individuals it's entirely personal. If a person can feel better by using the tools that his religion provides him why will you deny him that?
It sounds like you're conceding that religion, at its best, is just a comforting opiate for the masses while acknowledging that at its worst is an extremely destructive political tool for demagogues.
So how about we just move on and get rid of it? We'll find opiates somewhere else. Preferably ones that don't involve killing infidels.
I'm currently looking for a wife. Roughly how many years of plow experience should a woman have before considering her for marriage?
>>691860160
and the chinese girl
>>691859936
How the hell do you find comfort and strength in something anyone can interpret the way they like, how can that ever be a life-leading solid belief?
>>691859996
She has a nose like pic related and I hate that.
I'd rate her a 7/10
>>691842896
are you a muslim because you actually believe that shit, or because your parents made you be one when you were growing up
>>691857576
Actually many of the tools that religion provides is unavailable in any other way. If it was so easily replaced explain why there are such high suicide rates, or depression and drug use. Humans are weak in the face of what is life. We need a backbone that modern science has yet to understand and engineer. The best we have right now is religion, so why not use it to make us stronger until something better exists.
>>691857713
Lol, there were too many people to replie to. Here is one
>>691857871
Not a question.
>>691858194
Actually sodomy was illegal in the USA and still is in many states. Google is your friend. You should also be aware of the laws of your won country.
>>691858416
Yes
>>691858549
I have studied religion in China actually. Zen Buddhism has many facets some which contain a lot of violence as well. However, religion once again is simply philosophy. It is a guide to many different ethical dillemas.
In Buddhism there's a lot of weird things by the way, depending on the sects they are weird in different ways. Have you ever seen the paintings on Tibetian Buddhist temples? Those are violent as fuck, but they represent our inner demons.
>>691858734
The pillar of belief is for God. Which i believe
>>691858745
There is no best, they are all simply philosophies. They all address the same core concepts and give ways to mend them.
Muslims believe every word Jesus said. We simply disagree with Christians about how Jesus was born and how Christians chose to remember his as an idol rather than for the words he spoke.
Very little difference between Buddha and Mohammed. Both wanted people to free the mind over the body.
Rape and pillage is forbidden in war as stated by Mohammed.
The fear of refugees over rape is ridiculous. Learn some stats. I thought you had some serious questions until this.
>>691858884
I have, it was a good time.
>>691851992
>Saudi Arabia is not a model for Islam
so in other words, you are a Shia muslim
>>691862086
>The pillar of belief is for God. Which i believe
No.
They're six.
God, his Angels, his books, his prophets, and fate, its good and evil.
You believe all of that?!
>>691860160
I answered you. I have slept with a jewish girl.
>>691860372
That's exactly what I am saying. Look at Darwin's teachings, it started off as an unbiased scientific discovery. Then it was used by people to justify colonialism, genocide and slavery. People make meaning out of whatever comes their way to reinforce the ideas in their head.
The real solution is not to abolish ideas. It's to adequately educate people such that they are able to properly understand and interpret ideas. That way killing infidels because one is poor becomes laughable to even the most distressed individual.
>>691860439
Ask Borat. I can't remember the quote.
>>691860704
I'm a huge fan of chinese girls, just not really that one.
>>691860791
Anyone can interpret anything in a bad way. See above for my example using Darwin's evolution.
>>691861297
My parents are quite agnostic, this is my belief.
>>691862086
You had sex with a Jew? How did that happen? Give us details. This is important.
>>691862800
>Anyone can interpret anything in a bad way. See above for my example using Darwin's evolution.
Sure, but some things are easily interpreted badly than others, that's why most terrorists are Islamic.
>>691862800
so you converted as an adult? its hard to imagine a kid becoming a muslim on his own with parents who arent
>>691862097
I am a Sunni Muslim. One of the five pillars of Islam is charing, where is Saudi Arabia's Dawa?
That is just the beginning, I can spend all day discrediting Saudi Arabia. They are a totalitarian regime, there as a puppet state for the USA. We as Westerners should stop funding that corrupt government.
>>691862730
No, it is only faith in God and the Prophet. I am Muslim believe me, if not Google it.
How many infidels have you killed?
>>691863254
I just did google, pillars of belief are six, according to Sunni Muslims.
You're cherry picking.
>>691863254
what's your view on racemixing? you'd mix with jews and chinese instead of arabs?
>>691863254
the saudis are the primary funders of a lot of radical terrorist groups including ISIS. where do you think those terrorists get their guns and weapons
>>691862086
>There is no best, they are all simply philosophies. They all address the same core concepts and give ways to mend them.
Completely incorrect. Jainism, for instance, teaches people that all sentient lives are sacred; stepping on an insect is a serious violation of this tenet. Islam, on the other hand, literally calls for the murder of apostates.
>Muslims believe every word Jesus said.
That doesn't answer the question. An honest answer would be one that addresses the differences in their character. Jesus taught his followers to love their neighbors, forgive trespasses and turn the other cheek. Muhammad was a warlord who led his followers on raids and eventually conquered the Arabian peninsula. It's extremely likely he would have attempted to conquer further had he lived long enough.
>Very little difference between Buddha and Mohammed. Both wanted people to free the mind over the body.
Except for the part where Muhammad was a land pirate who fucked little girls?
>Rape and pillage is forbidden in war as stated by Mohammed.
Then why are there passages in the Hadith where Muhammad allows his followers to rape captives because they may use whatever their right hand possesses?
>The fear of refugees over rape is ridiculous. Learn some stats.
Maybe you would like to learn some stats? Rape is out of control in European countries accepting large droves of immigrants from Muslim countries. Thank God we're not letting them into America.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne-is-every-day-europes-rape-epidemic/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d
http://www.allenbwest.com/ashleyedwardson/mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-why-sweden-is-now-rape-capital-of-the-west
posting moar Asians!
>>691842896
>OP) #
Do you enjoy sucking dick?
>>691863908
Alla cuckbar!
>>691862852
We were friends in university, studied together, went out a few times. She was actually Israeli. I am pretty pro-palestinian, so we would have a lot of heated debates. One night we were just hanging out on top of the hill where we live, we started making out and one thing led to another. Had her come over, put on a random movie and started hooking up. Was really passionate, I guess we had something for each other. As a joke after we finished I whispered, "Free Palestine". She just laughed. Unfortunately, she couldn't stay and we both knew this.
>>691863133
That's ridiculous. Let's be a bit more logical. Rather, I propose, the lack of economic opportunity and the excess of war in some Muslim majority countries have led to a perfect place for terrorism to strive.
600 years ago, Muslims would be the epitome of peace and knowledge. Ideas are ideas. Marxism is a good idea, when interpreted by psychopaths it leads to Pol Pot or Mao ZeDong.
>>691863203
Yeah around 17 I started getting really into morality and religion. I have studied Abrahamic religions in detail. Then I started looking into Eastern religions and I really liked their perspectives. So, I went to study a year in China at the same time I took chinese philosophy and eastern religion classes. Each religion has so much to offer.
>>691863287
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Asian eyes are a complete turn off for me, I don't understand how caucasians like it
>>691842896
Just from reading this thread I can tell you're not the usual Muslim. How do you respond to extremism and hate within your religion?
>>691864239
muslim guy fucked a jew and told her free palestine at the end.
you are the MAN.
>>691864239
>That's ridiculous. Let's be a bit more logical...
Sure, poverty and unrest can be seeds for terrorism, but then those terrorists would have chosen another flag to terrorize under right? But they chose Islam, as well as verses to justify it that you hear before every ISIS beheading.
>>691842896
I dont think i will ever trust a muslim. moderate or not. I just cant weve had enough
What do Muslims find funny? Are there Bedouin and sheep jokes? Who gets the lightbulbs and who gets the knock knock jokes? Do Qataris poke fun at Bahrainis, and vice versa?
>>691862086
she is a cutie!
any pictures of the jewish girl?
>>691864888
Qatari here, we make fun of the rural Qataris mostly. They just can't modernize themselves.
>>691863508
There isn't.
Shahada: Faith
Shahada is a declaration of faith and trust that professes that there is only one God (Allah) and that Muhammad is God's messenger.[10] It is a set statement normally recited in Arabic: lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāhu muḥammadun rasūlu-llāh (لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله) "There is no god but God (and) Muhammad is the messenger of God." It is essential to utter it to become a Muslim and to convert to Islam.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam
Reading is important. If you are unable to do so, believe someone when they tell you.
Regardless, the other things you stated are simply extensions of God.
>>691863758
Yeah, mix genetics lead to healthier offsprings. Sephardi Jews (non-European) and Muslims are racially identical. Therefore, I'd prefer an Asian women to have children with if we are simply talking about offsprings. Generally, I am happy to be with whoever brings me happiness and strength.
>>691863761
Agreed. That's why I cannot stand Saudi Arabia.
>>691863863
I do understand that you are opposed to changing your view no matter what. However let's discuss.
Let us only look at the first point because your other questions have no substance. If you really want to we can discuss them too afterwards.
The difference between philosophies:
I have a friend who is Jain from India. She has never intentionally killed an insect or any animal. We have discussed the difference between Islam and Jainism many times.
Jainism is an idealism that is beyond any possibility especially in a modern context. By turning your car on, you are damaging and harming the environment. Living your life by every teaching of Jainism, you will be unable to live, you will be forced to be a hermit. This is not sustainable. Therefore, people practice Jainism with moderation, the same way people can practice and religion with moderation.
cont.
>>691864239
are you even middle eastern ethnicity?
>>691865912
>>691865684
like race wise, just curious if you are even middle eastern, or just a non-arab who decided to become muslim. maybe that explains why you seem to be more tolerant and less militant towards non-practitioners of islam?
What do you think about non muslims using 'As-salaamu alaikum'? I know some of the more conservatives prefer only those of the faith use it.
>>691865684
but if you got a jew pregnant, the baby would be jewish. you could follow thru with that??
>>691866109
>>691865912
to expand, i think a lot of people from that region just hate america in general for political reasons and maybe even jealousy, regardless of religion. they just use religion as an excuse to act like criminals basically and indoctrinate people
SERIOUS QUESTION OP:
ARE YOU CIRCUMSIZED??? lol
>>691865684
Yes, I know the shahada, but that is the first pillar of Islam, not Belief(Iman).
Here it is you nigger, studied Islam my fucking ass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam#Six_pillars_of_iman
>>691865684
>The difference between philosophies:
You're missing the point completely by harping on how unrealistic it is to practice Jainism strictly.
On a fundamental level, Islam has always been about conquest and subjugating people who are seen as subordinates. You can criticize Jainism for being impractical all you want but it will only serve as a distraction from how abhorrent your religion is.
And by distraction, I mean it will distract you; it obviously doesn't distract anyone outside of your religion.
You do make a valid point that Jainism isn't realistic or sustainable. But you're missing the larger point that the IDEALS are much more noble than the ideals of Muhammad as an individual, who was obsessed with power and used violence to conquer and oppress. ISIS is just following his model.
>>691863863
It is for the reader to take the ideals and philosophies in and then use them to better his life.
You cannot pray and meditate as much as Jainism preaches.
Jainism is the equivalent to Dervish Islam.
An unattainable ideal of world peace and harmony, way way way further than Islam, Buddhism, Christianity and religions that adhere more to everyday life.
>>691864258
I'm a big fan. Especially during sex.
>>691864467
I am not a usual Muslim why? Because I do not fit into your cookie-cutter image of Muslims? Like every other Muslim, I hate extremists they are ruining the image of our religion. Because of them we are losing the ability to peacefully practice our religion.
>>691864484
Was a joke. She took it well. I have that personality, I can laugh at myself, that's partially why I am able to get into such heated debates.
>>691864566
I already addressed this. The terrorists want money and power, this is obvious to Muslim majority countries, but for some reason is inconceivable to Western nations.
As a means for the terrorists to get this power and money they need a militia. They use religion as a way to entice young uneducated Muslims to join them. They use the common denominator of the people to recruit with promises of brotherhood and glory.
>>691864878
You haven't given Muslims a chance. I'd go for wings and chill with you.
>>691864888
I'm from Morocco, and of course. There's so many jokes about the Arabs and the Berbers. Everyone pokes fun at everyone.
>>691865044
Yeah, she was crazy sexy in bed too. I'll try to get one of the Jewish girl after its getting heated right now. It takes time to blur it and all.
>>691842896
From your own experience do you think this is accurate?
I see it posted on 4chan and reddit all the time but I don't actually know any Muslims to ask if it's legit or just people exaggerating
>>691866848
OP this is the difference between islam and christianity. jesus didnt conquer people through violence or force, and actually let them kill him on purpose.
mohammad literally advocates slaying the non-believers if they refuse to convert or be subjugated, and advocated armed conquest of non-believers in order to spread the religion
do you not see that?
>>691842896
Why is violent extremism so much more prevalent in Islam?
>>691864566
I share this anon's thoughts.
>>691867046
>I already addressed this. The terrorists want money and power..
Sure, anything can sound worth-dying-for to the uneducated, but not for ISIS. ISIS has many very well educated people working for them, are those just mere militia? oh no they're not, they're fooled by the bullshit religion of Islam.
Something this dangerous should be banned everywhere, like Nazi Ban.
>>691867046
OP you dont sound like a terrorist, and if all muslims were as tolerant as you seem to be, there would probably be a lot more peace in the world. but i still think muslims like you need to go out of your way to try to sway or bring back the 'radicals'...i dont think killing people should be a tenet of any religion. and there is a significant percentage of muslims who are fine with killing people in the name of their religion
>>691867046
Criticisms of Jainism are not defenses of Islam; at best, they function as avenues of distraction. See my earlier post: >>691866848
>>691850578
>Muslims and Christians share the same God
Muslims and Christians share the same imaginary god.
FTFY
>>691868077>>691867046
Edit: I meant >>691867246
Damn it.
>>691865912
>>691866109
I am North-African. My exact ethnicity is hard to pinpoint. Statistically, we are Berbers, and this can be supported since my family usually have green eyes but very dark skin. I have white skin and green eyes. Most, Moroccans are also originally Hebrews. There is also the possibility to Portuguese or Spanish due to the conquests.
So nationality is Moroccan. Ethnicity is hard to know, I would like to do a DNA test.
You shouldn't judge Arabs though. Many people agree with exactly what I am saying. You just won't see these people because they are invisible in society. The news doesn't care about our opinions, they only care about terrorists.
>>691866271
Those are words, anyone is allowed to say it. It literally means "peace be upon you". Not all Arab speakers are Muslim, those people always use it, its like saying hello.
The people who told you only followers should use it are either trolling you or are really misguided in their beliefs.
>>691866304
Yes, regardless, my child will have the opportunity to choose his religion as he pleases. I will simply guide him in the way of morality and ethics without giving a name to anything. He will then be free to decide how to apply his ethics, through atheism, christianity, judaism, buddhism..
>>691866379
Very true.
>>691866619
Yes
>>691866649
I told you I agree with all of those.
>>691866848
I addressed this in the cont. you should have waited for my entire point before replying.
Mohammed did not oppress it is strictly forbidden under the rules of war brought forth by Mohammed to oppress any captured city. As he stated, the people are not your enemy.
>>691850578
>I already addressed that religion in itself is neither evil nor violent
Religion is not philosophy. It was supposed to turn into philosophy. Astrology morphed into Astronomy, Alchemy into Chemistry, and religion into philosophy - but just like others, some people got stuck on stupid.
Religions make claims about the world around us. Historical and scientific claims about the nature of death, the history of the world, etc.
Almost none of them are compatible with other beliefs.
Religious incompatibility, irreconcilability, and full on war, because of the differences in them.
Islam is not tolerant of other's beliefs.
>>691842896
Are you a cuck?
>>691844670
>Religion is simply a form of philosophy.
Your religious leaders are teaching you the wrong things if you think this.
>>691842896
Which Commandment is your favorite?
>>691868403
>I addressed this in the cont. you should have waited for my entire point before replying.
No, you didn't. Your continuation didn't address anything. It was just more criticisms of Jainism for being impractical (while completely missing the point--that Jains have fundamentally more noble ideals than Muslims in general and Muhammad in particular).
>Mohammed did not oppress
What was the Conquest of Khaybar? How did it end for the Jews?
>it is strictly forbidden under the rules of war brought forth by Mohammed to oppress any captured city.
This is simply bringing to light another major criticism of Muhammad--in addition to being a bloodthirsty conqueror and charlatan, he was an enormous hypocrite.
PENIS PENIS PENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>691842896
DID YOU KNOW: According to the actual core beliefs of Christianity you must...
1. Obey the every word of clergymen, as they speak only the Word of God. If your Father tells you to pull down your pants and whip out your willie, it is the will of God.
2. Treat your wife as property, and women as the property of their husbands. (Relatively loosely translated)
3. Keep holy the Sabbath.
4. Stone any woman speaking out of turn.
5. Stone anyone speaking against God or his word.
Source: 9 years in state's 2nd most prestigious Catholic school. 4 years leading Confirmation classes. Extra work during school as my Pastor was trying to get me to become one.
>>691868403
>I told you I agree with all of those.
No, you said they don't exist.
Anyways, since you will only claim I can't read or some shit, I'll be straight to my point simplified and just pass this repeated bullcrap.
I don't like you people, I have my reasons, I think your religion has roots of evil. The days will show that moderate or not cannot be trusted. You cannot make a human civil if that human wants to live like a barbaric ape of the early 14th century.
>>691842896
why are you so fucking stupid? just understand that ALL religion is made by human, for human. male human, to be more specific. how can you be so stupid not to see that?
>>691849138
> what happened at Charlie Hebdo attacks are way worse morally than a drawing of the prophet. Albeit, both being morally reprehensible.
Drawing the prophet is morally reprehensible to muslims. Your morals are imaginary and subjective to your religion.
Drawing the prophet Muhammad is an imaginary crime with real murder as a result, similar to burning witches.
>>691868403
You are not answering hard questions, merely cherry picking and backtracking when someone calls you on something.
One anon told you there were six pillars of islam according to sunni muslims, you maintained there were five, so he called you on it and you say you agreed with him? Where did you tell him that?
You have said several times that you have "addressed" people's questions, but you have not. You are starting to look dishonest.
>>691869124
so why do islamic countries enforce laws where they actually carry out those injustices like stoning women, but no christians do?
because christianity has a new testament dumbass. basically part 2 of the bible, that was written thousands of years later. you must have slept through your confirmation classes
the koran basically has the same lessons as the old testament, because they are basically the same abrahamic religion. the jewish torah and the old testament are practically the same book
>>691867129
I've seen this stat so many times and it's based on Shapiro's speech. It's a survey that was conducted without any proper context, it's statistical manipulation rather than fact.
If 584 million people wished death on non-believers you'd be fucked.
Moreover, how did they ask these questions? What language was used?
There's too many inaccuracies and unanswered questions about their research method to make this science.
>>691867358
I answered him.
>>691867604
"educated", obviously not if they are willing to commit evil. And this is a misconception, among Muslim countries ISIS is seen to a huge joke. The West has given more importance to ISIS than it ever should.
Hitler was an atheist and his followers were Christians. Does that make Christians and atheists monsters? No, it makes those individuals who perpetuated those acts to be monsters. How can you generalize something so illogical.
If I am not violent, how can being Muslim inherently make you violent?
>>691867652
Thanks i guess... It's not a significant percentage. The right-wing media is pushing this idea on Westerners but its ridiculous. There have been non-Muslims living in Muslim counties FOREVER. Muslims are minorites in China since the year 800, do you think they really want to kill all non-believers. It's such a stupid question, with a meaningless conclusion.
>>691867795
My point was: Jainism is the same as Dervish Islam. Two philosophies which exist but are not sustainable and have thus been left to the past.
Philosophy is a tool that we can use. Much like theoretical mathematics (dervish islam, jainism) and practical mathematics (islam, christianity, ...).
I return to my original point these are all philosophies, people are free to do with them as they please.
>>691868093
It is true that God does not have an image as is stated in the Torah and the Q'ran.
>>691842896
Do you believe that Islam needs a western influenced reform? I've always thought that fundamental Islam and sharia law seem to be anti western by nature, which contributes to all of the violence in the name of Allah that we see in media. Do you have a differing opinion?
As soon as people finally realize that morals and ethics are objective, and specifically deal with human and animal well-being, and reducing needless suffering the world will be a better place.
If your actions help humans thrive (here on earth) then they're moral.
It's pretty simple really, just don't cause needless suffering, and defend the weak.
There is no eternity. Life is short, so lets help each other be happy together.
>>691869661
>It is true that God does not have an image
It is true that god doesn't have a presence, exist, have power, listen to or answer prayers.
FTFY
>>691869661
>"educated", obviously not if they are willing to commit ...
You never seen someone who has a brain and was also a criminal?
Atheism is the state of no religion, you cannot generalize anything to atheists because it is not a religion to associate anything with in the first place.
Being muslim doesn't necessairly inherently make you violent, but it could, really easily and that is where the problem lies.
>>691869960
This is how we know that christianity does not have moral teachings, because Christianity teaches pacifism. Pacifism is morally reprehensible. Failing to defend the weak is monstrously bad, but yet the mythical jesus taught it.
>>691869661
kek, you sure are hilarious OP
>non-muslims living in muslim countries as second rate citizens, paying extra fines and taxes and subject to discrimination and injustice and arbitrary persecution and violence
fixed that for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Copts
http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2015/jul/27/where-in-the-world-is-it-worst-place-to-be-a-christian
>Somalia
>Islam is the state religion, and converting to another religion is illegal. The Islamist group al-Shabaab has stated that it wants to rid Somalia of all Christians, and people suspected of following the faith are likely to be killed on the spot. Many meet in secret, or don't meet at all, and cannot own Bibles.
>Afghanistan
>There are few Christian believers in Afghanistan, where Christianity is seen as a western religion. Those that exist must keep their faith secret or risk being rejected by their families, or even killed. There are no churches except for secret ones. While Afghan Christians are at greatest risk, foreigners are also in danger. In 2014, several Christian aid workers were killed in the country.
>Iran
>Islam is the official religion, and any ethnic Persian who converts to Christianity is considered apostate. Armenians and Assyrians living in Iran are allowed to practise Christianity, but are often treated as second-class citizens. Churches are monitored and raided by the government and at least 75 Christians were arrested in Iran last year.
>Pakistan
>Christians in Pakistan are often treated as second-class citizens. Christian women and children can be the targets of sexual abuse; blasphemy laws are abused to attack followers; and churches are monitored and sometimes attacked.
>Eritrea
>Christians are considered a threat to the ruling People's Front for Democracy and Justice. Many have had their houses attacked or been tortured, beaten and imprisoned.
basically all muslim countries ur life is at risk if you are chrstian
>>691869661
ISIS is seen as a joke? Enslaving people is a joke to you?
>>691870550
>basically in all muslim countries your life is at risk if you arent muslim
but not in america, or almost all western countries where islam is heavily tolerated.
do you not see the double standard OP? islam is intolerant, wake up and stop living in denial or sugar coating over messy reality
>>691870310
Islam is a like a huge pan of hot water. Every few days a bubble of hot water jumps out and burns and kills someone.
The world calls this terrorism. We will never defeat terrorism, because we cannot even name the problem. The problem that is the seething pot of Islam.
Islamic terror is so bad and so deadly and so ubiquitous, that the word "islamophobia" is not a real word.
ISLAM is the issue of our time, and it's not going away fast.
>>691869661
show me one muslim country where non-muslims, particularly christians, live freely and without fear of death or persecution
china is not a muslim country... by the way.
>>691842896
Hillary Or Trump?
Looks like OP got btfo
>>691869661
>I return to my original point these are all philosophies, people are free to do with them as they please.
At last, there it is; the hitherto unspecified crux of your argument: a conflation of religion and philosophy.
Your argument is fundamentally wrong at best, dishonest at worst. Religion is not just philosophy tinged with spirituality and it's a horrible mistake to present or refer to it as such.
Philosophy is, by definition, open to criticism. Philosophy is based on logic and logic is part and parcel of critical thinking. In many ways, philosophy is the opposite of religion. Religion cannot co-exist with rationality and philosophy cannot exist without it. If a philosophy purports to be above reproach, it is no longer a philosophy but a dogmatic system of self reinforcing--and frequently self contradicting--beliefs. In other words, it becomes a religion.
Religion purports to be--among other things--communication with the divine, complete with commandments from the divine. Islam in particular is notorious for being a religion that wants to position itself as the medium of communication between God and man, and in doing so, be above reproach: How dare you question the words of the prophet, you infidel? Draw a cartoon of him? Enjoy getting shot to death for this imagined offense.
Philosophy is about asking questions. Religion is dogmatic by definition; it thrives on telling people not to ask questions or think for themselves.
I wash my hands of this discussion.
>>691871111
>show me one muslim country where non-muslims, particularly christians, live freely and without fear of death or persecution
That is not a thing. Islam is not into tolerance or plural society. Islam is into Islam. I hope I answered your question.
Islam is the best religion, and will overtake the rest, and your governments will help us in our conquest. Thank you for religiously tolerant societies.
>>691870956
ITT: op is a hipster millenial muslim in denial about the reality of his religion.
hey OP, why dont you get a christian cross necklace and travel to any muslim country, and ask people on the street if they know where the nearest church is.
alternatively, walk around with a little turban and ask people randomly in the streets of america if they know where the nearest mosque is
do the second experiment first, you might not live through the first one
>>691871579
triggered
>>691871531
Like I said up there. Religion's natural course was to turn into philosophy, but many many people got stuck on stupid.
>>691871607
Are apostates innocent?
Are gay people innocent?
Ask an muslim these questions - see what you get for an answer.
>>691869661
Have fun being in denial about your religion like the rest of the "moderate" Muslims.
>>691871780
I agree with this. Christopher Hitchens was also fond of pointing out that religion is (or should be) to philosophy what alchemy is to chemistry.
RIP in peace, Hitch.
I miss that dude.
>>691871779
religious moderates help move islam into being the dominant religion.
Christian fundamentalists would not allow the advancement of islam.
Hindu fundamentalists would not allow Islam to grow.
We can all thank the moderates of the world for helping to spread Islam as Muhammad would want.
Peace and tolerance will yield more Islam. Again, thank you.
>>691868498
Philosophy existed before any presently practiced religion. Philosophy is simply the act of questioning what surrounds us. Everything is philosophy that's why the highest degree in all the fields you mentioned is a PhD (Philosophy Doctorate).
The holy text try to shed some light on science, kind of like an encyclopedia of its time. But, it does so in a way to spread a moral message.
Religions are compatible with one another. For example, you can be both Muslim and Buddhist.
>>691868809
You mean the years I studied philosophy, ethics and morality. Thanks for dispelling years of research with you ten minute train of thought.
>>691868864
There is one and only one God. He is as he is. Which is also the first pillar of Islam
>>691869040
Did you Google Dervish Islam. It is the same as Jainism in many ways. You should fully understand a reply before speaking.
I just read about that conquest, the only mention of oppression was when the city was taken the Jews had to pay half of their earnings in taxes (Dawa), whereas Muslims only paid 1/3. The actions of Mohammed are not all perfect in the eyes of Muslims. He was the Prophet and lived as he should in later years, but it was not until God spoke to him
>>691869124
Yes, I am aware. But, there is no need to adhere to these practices.
>>691869174
Well it's sad that you simply want to find reasons to fight rather than finding reasons to reconcile. I would have no problem being friends with you.
Everything you stated simply juggles in technicalities. No substance to be had.
>>691869245
It's not the drawing of the Prophet which I find immoral, it's the act of simply doing it to anger someone else.
>>691872205
He said "There will be time for silence when I'm dead" - RIP Hitch
>>691872026
no shit captain obvious, the point is they are intolerant
>>691842896
I've been told that Islam is all about brotherly love and understanding, and that the summit of that is watching borns film together to seal the love.
Would you say that is true, or you are a racist retarded man?
>>691872416
i have no problem with you being a muslim, as long as being a muslim means you arent out killing and persecuting non muslims. the problem is, most of your religion (the ones still in the middle east) are a very violent and intolerant people, and would probably kill/punish you for attempting to be tolerant towards non-muslims
>>691872416
>Religions are compatible with one another.
You're not really into intelligent thinking or discussion. Christianity is not compatible with Islam, just like Christianity and martyrdom is not compatible today.
Martyrdom and Islam go hand in hand and are exercised regularly.
If Hindus thought that Muhammad was special, they could simply make him another avatar of the faith, and join him to the other million gods they have. The same with Jesus.
Simply saying religions are compatible and demonstrating how muslims slaughter Christians is not particularly helpful to your argument.
Islam is telling us ad nauseam what they want, they aspire to do, what they would do if they could do it, and that is to kill every Jewish person.
Tell me how Islam and Judaism is compatible?
>>691871354
The funny thing is that stupid people are unable to realize when they've lost an argument, or even utterly embarrassed themselves in the process. It's even been scientifically proven.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-dunning-kruger-effect/3102360
OP got BTFO in the eyes of everyone else participating in this discussion, or even observing it. But to OP? It's just another day of being right about everything. Of only those non-believers weren't too blind to see!
That's the power of indoctrination and delusion.
>>691872416
>You mean the years I studied philosophy, ethics and morality.
The same amount of wasted time could be spent in a madrassas or getting a theology degree. It's the very definition of worthless study.
Did you allow religious leaders to teach you morals?
>>691872501
Not the guy you were responding to but you don't need to be a snide prick; he clearly understood your point and was agreeing with you.
>>691872607
>Islam is all about brotherly love and understanding
It's really about the spread of Islam through subjugation if necessary. It is about paradise and getting there to the virgins.
>>691869447
English is my third language so forgive me. Let me clarify. There are five pillars of Islam, only five. The first pillar is the pillar for belief. Within the pillar of belief, generally it's for the oneness of God and the Prophets. However, he is right that in association it also includes the angels and other things he stated. But these are simply an extension of the oneness of God.
And there aren't six pillars only five.
If you look earlier when I was replying to him, I said yes, I believe the angels, the word of God, the good within the world, the bad within the world and so on. Again these are simply extensions of the oneness of God.
>>691869564
Because they have yet to modernize. It'll be a long process. But, there are African nations in the same economical predicament as the Muslim countries which do the same. This is a problem with lack of education and opportunity rather than religion.
>>691869800
It does not need a western influence. It needs the exact opposite. It was a western influence that caused radicalism to become so popular. Remember Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan before USA intervened with their buddies Saudi Arabia?
Muslim countries need to progress, but on their own terms at their own pace. You cannot jump forward a whole civilization. Mao ZeDong tried and ended up killing 80 million people.
>>691869960
100% Agreed with everything this anon said.
>>691870206
I do not preoccupy myself much with questions without any answers. I'll ponder upon them but then move on knowing that it's answer will never exist.
>>691870550
Why do people tend to focus only on the negative. You literally picked the top 5 shit holes. How about: Morocco, Maldives, Kazhakstan, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Mali, Albania, Montenegro, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria (before this mess), Jordan, Sudan, Egypt.
Common violence is not the fault of a religion. It is a human problem. How is this so hard to understand?
>>691873370
I have never heard of that! Thank you, anon
>>691873726
>Common violence is not the fault of a religion
Meanwhile Islam racks up its 28,500th deadly jihad attack somewhere in the world.
Are apostates innocent?
Are homosexuals innocent?
Are aid workers and journalists innocent?
>>691873370
i still vote OP tests the tolerance of his religion by pretending to be christian and visiting a muslim country
put your money where your mouth is OP. '
>>691873726
are you literally saying sudan is an ideal example of a place where muslims are tolerant of christians?
and what is with your hardon for china? china is not a muslim country you dipshit
mali?? are you serious OP?
https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/stories/tag-blog-post/what-exactly-is-happening-to-christians-in-mali/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/20/africa/mali-shooting/
out of the ones you listed, he only countries where you wouldnt be unsafe as a christian are china and singapore, neither of which are muslim majority countries
turkey?? the country that a soccer stadium full of was literally booing at a moment of silence for the paris terror attack victims?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/paris-soccer-fans-turkey/
you are in denial
'common violence' against non-muslims seems to be particularly prevalent in muslim countries
>>691873721
And what are creative and fun ways to doing that? More important, which of them are more important than watching a borns film?
OP what denomination (if any) of Islam were you taught in?
What are the exact reasons why a Muslim woman can't marry a non-Muslim man?
Everyone here bitching about what the Qu'ran says needs to start posting verses, otherwise I'm just going to assume you're an ignorant redneck.
>>691870625
Way to take things out of context. Learn to read, this is my third language and I understand.
>>691870877
Ok guys DOTA time.
SOme of you guys will never not be racist, there's just no listening at times.
>>691873726
>>691877047
That dude was wrong anyway, it's according to the Shi'a that there are six, and the sixth is jihad, but that wasn't my point.
My point is that you are in denial about your religion, and are grasping for things to make it better. As other anons have stated, China isn't Muslim, why would you even put Sudan in the list, I thought you were picking countries that WEREN'T shitholes?
You are showing an ignorance for the world, and choosing to believe that Islam operates the way you think it should, like many Muslims tend to.
Later anon.
my religion suggest me to stop reading this thread. im a republician newsreporter from distant realm from darkness.
>>691877231
theres more Muslims in China than the Gulf
>>691842896
This hot muslim girl i was talking to didnt want a relationship or didnt want to fuck just because i was a different religion so she got with this ugly muslim dude, do all muslims go by this rule of relations with another religion?
>>691872416
OP to be fair, if someone threatens to murder you over a cartoon drawing, then making that drawing isn't "simply to anger someone else". There's a reason those drawings are made. They wanted the world to know how crazy these radicals are.
It's almost a civil duty actually. If someone is making death threats over a cartoon it's important to educate people about that, because that's just ridiculous.
>>691877620
And where, exactly, did you source that stat? Let's see it. I'm not even going to bother countering it, I just want to see what ridiculous source you drew that from.
Lebanese muslim girl (18-19 in pics)
>>691852151
SJW is a buzzword too, you hypocrite.
CliffsNotes: OP is a Muslim, says AMA, people ask tough questions, OP BTFO'd, runs away, plays vidya and masturbates to MLP
Just another day on /b/
>>691879176
nice. got any nudes?
>>691842896
Why don't you shitters publicly mock extremists for their ignorant behavior? Christians and non mock Westboro all the time
>>691879537
Most "moderate" Muslims are fucking pussies or are closet Islamists.
>>691879338
Got a few if interested, yea.
>>691879176
>>691880330
absolutely! moar!!
>>691880713
go on..
how do you know her?
>>691846533
(It's the same god for all monotheistic religions.)
>>691842896
Who is the mahdi?
>>691880857
Do you know her by any chance yourself?
>>691881231
nah i wish! any of her pussy or asshole?
in any case MOAR!
>>691881422
I'll see what I got.
>>691881649
thanks man. she's fucking hot! did you have sex with her?
>>691881886
Yea I did, and yea she was
>>691881993
tell us how it went down. did you cum inside her?
>>691842896
Why Vanessa Hudgens?
>>691879309
I answered all the posts, even if they weren't questions before I left.
Some people are unable to discuss, because they are already set in wanting to disagree rather than share ideas.
posted awhile back, here's some Malaysian Muslim ass for you all.
>>691882228
was pretty awesome. tight af. but no did not cum in her.
>>691883207
nice. any of her tits?
>>691842896
muslims can suck my traditional jewish circumcised cock.
>>691882516
Catholicfag here. I've seen you post before and I admire your patience when answering hostile questions. You're doing a great thing. Peace.
>>691883469
gtfo shlomo
>>691863863
>sentient lives are sacred
>an insect
Oops. Your prejudice -- and pride -- are showing.
Do you believe infidels should die?
>>691884863
i'm in love.
any more sexy shots of her?
