>>691792653
Sam.

Snape kills Dumbledore

>>691792653
someone with tagyrien (oh however they are spelled).

still thinking jon snow is the son of ned's sister with that son of the mad king (making him a relativ of that stomborn bitch)

>>691793263
*blood

>>691793171
die in hell faggot. why you spoiled my favorite anime

No one. They're going to move to a libertarian democracy.

>>691792653
Tyrion, best peacetime ruler

>>691792653
peter dinklage

It will never end!!

Night King

>>691792653
Danerys will die at the end with no heir Jon dies as well fighting the white walkers. Both are unfit for peacetime rule anyway.

Tyrion remarries Sansa unifying the kingdom and becomes king (since he is also of targarian birth).

>>691792653
Deez nuts

>>691792653
The hound

>>691792653
Brandon Stark

The jews

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Jughead

>>691793789
>You will never get to see Peter Dinklage struggle to climb up and sit on the Iron Throne.

Who is the actually rightful ruler anyway?

>>691793263
That would be because you're right. Top fan theory, and basically confirmed in the latest GoT episode flashback as Lyanna whispers to Ned that Robert would kill her son if he "found out", and then the closeup on her son switches to Jon.
Ned takes the fall for Jon by acting as though he's Jon's father, suffering the years of dishonor to keep him safe from his friend's wrath should he find out that Targaryan blood still lives.

>>691792653
> the ice king

>>691794339
targerians are the oldest know rightful heirs

>>691792653
George R. R. Martin

In a move straight out of The Dark Tower saga he will write himself into the plot as the dragon slayer. He will defeat Denarius' army and sit on the iron throne. He will not wear a crown. He will simply wear that stupid fucking hat.

>>691794339
The one with the biggest army

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>>691794019
id be happy with that ending.
just ANYTHING apart from fucking cuntface daenarys sittiing on the throne would make me happy. she needs to fucking die already or get raped up the asshole by some tribal niggers dick again.

>>691794315
...because he will use a step stool

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>>691794019
this actually makes a lot of sense.

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>>691794779

>>691794019
Tyrian is Targarian? When did that happen?

>>691794341
woah, didn't even know that, stuck at the end of season 5 here, i harbored that thought since season 1, glad to see that it could be the truth.

>>691794572
>>691794339
Wouldn't that make Jon snow the rightful heir?

Khalesei stormborn<

>>691795034
Yes, which is why people are arguing over theories.

>>691794984
The mad king cucked tywin

>>691795034
Snow is dayneris nephew so, no.

>>691794341
John's also a warg, so he can ride/control a dragon

Still waiting on Dany's 3rd betrayal (expecting it to come from Daario in the show)

>>691795034
Only if lyanna and Rheagar were married

>>691792653
I'd rather sit on a toilet.

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>>691795437
DanyXXXtyrion confirmed

Littlefinger marries dany after Reed outs Jon as a Targaryen.

Gendry.

>>691794225
Fuck bran

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Adam West

>>691795820
Jon is also a stark so no

>>691795904
I would if I could, he's adorable

>>691795972
Jon is not a stark, he's a bastard.

>>691792653
It's Not Real OP

>>691796232
If lyanna and Rheagar were married then he wasn't

>>691796232
"You are to me" said sansa who is only real stark (fuck bran) so he is stark now

>>691795972
Was going more for the "don't marry your nephew" line of reasoning.

>>691796382
They think bran is dead

>>691795820
Then Littlefinger takes Danny back to Baltimore. To rule the Negro throne.

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too busy fighting between themselves they will forget too long about the real threat, the white walkers only for the wall to be broken as bran crosses it leaving the north open to inasion, the armies of north and south and dothraki/danarys will all be fighting and BOOM in comes the knightking with an army of white walkers and zombies he will raise the dead from the battle that has been going on and the only hope for men will be bran warging a dragon, he instead tries to go back to warn people of what happens only to send the mad king mad returning to a battlefield wrecked only a few remain battling and retreating towards kings/queens landing as there dragons fly over the last sun of summer sets onto a black night where the last of the men form a defensive guard against the undead hordes, but its too late a fallen dragon is reawakened by the knight king and mans last trupm card is swiftly stomped out, a few nobes and fan favourites escape kingslanding only for the game of thrones to end with the knight king sitting on the throne and ramsays bastard being born amoung the salt and smoke (the one who was promised)

dum dum dd dum dum dd dum.

>>691796167
I would too if its shota bran
Present bran looks ayy lmao

>>691796471
They married brother and sister so...

>>691796617
Faggot

>>691796232
So was ramsay, but that didn't stop him from doing what he did. The north doesn't care about a royal proclamation of the name stark. They proclaimed him king in the north. I kek'd at little fingers face when they did.

>>691794339

That would be Aegon "Young Griff Targaryen. The still living (though thought dead) son of Raegar and Elia. You know the son that The mountain supposedly killed.

SAUCE:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegon_Targaryen_(son_of_Rhaegar)

Littlefinger finds out jon has targaryen blood ditch sansa poosi and marries jon instead to sit on the iron throne

>>691796954
Tell me how is he not dead?

>>691796954
Nobody gives a fuck about the book version this retard isn't in the show so nobody cares

>>691795260
Danny is the daughter of King Aerys and Raegar was his son. so wouldnt Jon, Raegar's son be next in line since women arent granted power unless everyone else is dead?

>>691796954
Hogwash. According to the New England Journal of Television. The correct ruler of the 7 kingdoms, is Hot Pie.

>>691796534
Didnt read lol

>>691794339
Cersei right now, by right of conquest

>>691797294
everyone else from her gen I guess

>>691797147

In the book he was smuggled out from Kings landing and replaced by some lowborn kid. All the info is in the link.

He was "supposed" to be introduced in S4/S5 but I fear that they cut him from the show which sucks because its a great story in itself.

>>691796800
but ramsey actually got the royal proclamation, and sure the north doesnt care, but the southerners might. technically wasnt ramsey a legitimate ruler despite being fucked in the head?

>>691797452
Smart money says Jamie kills Cersi, for killing Tommen.

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>>691792653

No one
The Iron Throne will be torn down at the end and a new throne will be erected to signify the new era to come.

>>691797294
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegon_Targaryen_(son_of_Rhaegar)

>>691795437
that was fucking brutal.
RIP in peace

>>691797606
Jaime sex cersei THEN kills cersei

>>691797639
No thrones. Westerns will eventually shift to a Democratic system.

>>691797550
Nobody but the lannisters would care and their hands are a bit full right now

>>691797743
Stop eet with the spoilers REEEEEEE

>>691794339
>Who is the actually rightful ruler anyway?

In the show at this point? Cersei. She was legally coronated since house Baratheon no longer exists.

In the books at this point? Stannis since he was Robert's rightful heir.

>>691794577
>that stupid hat
kek +1000 internets

>>691797606
True, but as of right now, she is the rightful heir, regardless of if the valonquar prophecy comes true or not.

>>691797967
Rightful ruler rather, not heir

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This guy.

>>691794339
It doesn't matter at this point.
Whoever can conquer everyone else is the rightful ruler now.

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>>691796617
+1

>>691798056
Idk who that is but im rooting for him

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>>691798223
He is the a Divine Creature.

>>691798194
This retard just saved a banner pic
This retard just saved a banner pic.

>>691797294
>so wouldnt Jon, Raegar's son be next in line since women arent granted power unless everyone else is dead?

No. Bastards have no rights to titles, lands and most importantly, the throne.

>>691797644
>Aegon VI
There's evidence to suggest he's a pretender who has been raised to believe he's Rheagar's offspring. Many (myself included) believe him to be a Blackfyre.

>>691797550
The only southerners that would care are the lanisters. But I don't think that's going to matter much later. Winter has come, no southern house, nor cersei herself, would ever be able to challenge his position with the north behind him.

>>691798409
>this retard took a second of his precious life to answer another cunt
how dead inside are you anon?

>>691795243
When did that fucking happen?

>>691795347
The Targs were known to practice polygamy and have multiple wifes. My money is that Sam in that giant library finds a record that R was married to L which makes J the legit heir to the throne and not a targ bastard. His claim is even more legit then Danys.

>>691792653
Me

>>691793007
agreed

>>691792653
OP will sit on a fat dick in the end.

>>691798899
It will be revealed in time

>>691798899

"According to Barristan Selmy, the Mad King lusted after Joanna. At the wedding of Tywin and Joanna, Aerys drunkenly japed about how it was a pity the First Night tradition was banned and took too many liberties during Joanna's bedding. Tywin was not amused, and that caused further friction between him and Aerys."

>>691792653
Shia Jew Buff

>>691798952
>The Targs were known to practice polygamy and have multiple wifes.

No, they practiced incest to maintain their family wealth. To my knowledge Maegor I was and Aegon V were the only Targaryens who were polygamists.

BUT tell me, how the fuck was varys on the boat in the ending scene? He left like 2 episodes ago and almost made the midget cry, then earlier in the episode hes in dorne. Suddenly hes on that boat with the whole squad? Can varys teleport?

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>>691792653
why spoops mcdoots ofcourse

>>691794339
Either Jon or Gendry

>>691792653
Little finger

>>691799418
So they practiced it then

>>691799440
A lot of time passed in between

>>691799440

Each episode often-times spam across several months, not all things happening at the same time and order.

>>691799418
>No, they practiced incest to maintain their family wealth

*to maintain genetic purity

Sorry, was thinking of real life monarchs there for a minute.

>>691799670
>>691799694
meh, makes no sense. He was in dorne in this episode, then later in the episode hes back. They goofed.

>>691799578
>So they practiced it then

No, they didn't. They were the only two (three. Forgot Aegon I) exceptions to a house that predominately practiced monogamy.

>>691799727

Well its probably a bit of both. It is said that in order to control their dragons they had to have a certain purity of Valyrian blood in their veins and since the Targaryens are the only know Valyrians around after the fall of Valyria, they had to keep it in the family.

>>691800065
So you agree they practiced it

>>691800047
Try not to think about it

Gendry is the king!

>>691800047

How do you know he was back? It is possible that they giant fleet shown in the end had already stopped by in Dorne and picked up reinforcements for the coming invasion. Infact, a few ships shown did have the sunspear symbol on their sails.

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>>691792653

It will be Little Finger last on the throne, only moments before the white walkers sac kings landing and lay waste to the red keep and the iron throne itself.

>>691800302
Thanks, This made a bit sense, So did Varys kill the old hag ?

>>691800447
this

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>>691799491

>>691800089
>Targaryens are the only know Valyrians around after the fall of Valyria

Not exactly. There are people in Lys who are of Valyrian descent. One or two of the Targaryen kings took Lyseni wives specifically for this reason.

>>691800153
>So you agree they practiced it

That they practiced monogamy, yes.

>>691800047

you've gotta realize months are passing in each episode. A season of the show is about 1.5 years

>>691800578
And they practiced polygamy based on your own posts

>>691800458

Olenna? Why would he? Highgarden is now allied with Dorne and Dany in order to exact revenge upon the Lannisters.

>>691793933
This, hopefully

>>691800578

I'm speaking of Westeros here. Not many Valyrians in Westeros, and fucking inside the family also keeps the wealth within the family.

>>691794019
How the fuck tyrone had targarian blood while we just confirmed that it was jon?

>>691800047
>meh, makes no sense.

Yes it does. >>691799670 and >>691799694 are correct. Varys met with the Sneks for his secret mission. Then brought them back to Mereen, and now sail with Dany's armada.

>>691800578

THe Targaryens were a lesser house of Valyria, which is why they survived the fall, they lived on an island far off enough from Valyria mainland that the volcanos didn't kill them instantly. I believe they are the only nobel house to survive.

>>691796528

kek

>>691800963
The mad king cucked tywin see>>691799305

>>691794339
Some House Baratheon peon at this point if you are following order of succession.... but Cersei by right of force.

>>691800968

You could sail from dorne to meereen in month or so.

>>691800963

Because Aerys supposedly/Probably/possibly fucked Joanna Lannister while Tywin was Hand of the king, meaning Tyron may very well be a bastard-targaryen. This would also, (in part) explain why Tywin always hated Tyrion.

>>691800583
Yet sometime we see people taking half a season to travel relatively short distances. Then people who can cross the continent twice in 2-3 episodes.
To be fair this happens more in the books. RR has even said he doesn't give a fuck about distances and travel time.

>>691801008
Nah Targs fled because one of them had foreseen the destruction of Valyria

>>691792653
The whitewalkers

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>>691796954
I thought the mountain killed a Tyrell since that's all that guy was yelling about when he fought against the mountain for Tyrian

Make Westeros great again!

>>691801070

That would make Cersi and Jamie Targaryen, they're the older ones. Cersi is living out the mad kings dream of burning the sept.

>>691800728
>And they practiced polygamy based on your own posts

They practiced Monogamy. Three exceptions does not account for the entire family. Especially when the last case was several generations after the one previously had died.

>>691800956
>I'm speaking of Westeros here. Not many Valyrians in Westero

Oh, yeah indeed. Beyond the Targaryens, I think were the Velaryons and.. fuck, I forgot which.

>>691801439
Cersie and Jamie are tywin's tyrion is not

>>691793263
But Jon is actually Robert Baratheons Legitimate son.
Lyanna & Rob loved each other, but Rob married Cersei as means of securing the thrones longevity.

>>691801439
>Cersi is living out the mad kings dream

If she was doing that, all f KL would be engulfed in flame. Not just the sept.

>>691801504
So what the fact of the matter is that there is a precedence for targarians being polygamists and Rheagar could've been married to Lyanna making Jon a legitimate heir.

>>691801423

No he wasnt. His exact words where: "You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children."

The mountain raped Elia, killed and then crushed the two toddlers headsagainst the stone wall.

>>691801589
Not likely most likely Rheagar is jon's father

>>691801310

nah, they were on dragonstone during the doom actually, and not by choice, try reading the books again.

>>691801678

just you wait....

>>691801770
This. The mountain confirmed this.

>>691801576

Tyrion is cersei and jaime are not. The targaryens are FAMOUS for incest. And what do you know, so are jamie and cersei. Coincidence?

>>691801851
>doesnt remember the story of Daeny the Dreamer

>>691801678

and what do you think will happen when Cersei is facing a siege she will lose?

She was ready to kill her son and herself last time, next time she's going to take everyone with her. SO much foreshadowing on this one...

>>691802050
The inbreeding is what led to tyrion being a dwarf. Incest isn't genetic.

>>691801753

Precedence? Yes. But it's not exactly legal. The first two to have done so were before Westeros' laws were set. Aegon V literally gave no shits and did just about whatever he wanted and the realm suffered for it.

But with Rhaegar it was different. It was not within his rights. And even then, I doubt Lyanna married him. Why would one marry their kidnapper and rapist? Nah. Jon's a bastard. And even if he wasn't, he still has no claim to the throne since Targaryens have no rights to it.

Got stuff here.
Arya marries Podrick and they become queen and king, Podrick is son of Robert baratheon.
Daenerys dies fighting white walkers along with the last dragon. The two small dragons will die conquering westeros. But daenerys will give the kingdom to arya because she will understand she is not peace time ruler. John snow moves back to castle black and becomes chief again. Cersei dies betrayed by a her brother and he marries brien of tarth. Brandon loses his mind. And sansa marries to tyrion again and rules north.

>>691801911
Nah, Kingslayer will save kings landing from a crazy ruler again, fulfilling the witches prophecy

>>691802349
Lyanna wasn't raped she was in love

>>691801589
So that's why Robert would have slit Jon's throat if he knew of his existence? Makes a lot of newfag sense

>>691802396
>Arya marries Podrick and they become queen and king, Podrick is son of Robert baratheon.

Are you mistaking Podrick Payne, a highborn from the Westerlands for Gendry?

>>691802452
>Lyanna wasn't raped she was in love

Horseshit.

You're all dumb as fuck. Am I the only one who GETS this show?

>>691802347

but lady joanna wasn't a targ, so it wouldn't have been inbreeding.

>>691792653
Trump

>>691802672
She wasn't kidnapped you fucking idiot. Don't act smug when you are in fact a faggot

>>691802759

If Tywin and Joanna are the parents = Inbreeding
If Aerys and Joanna are the parents = Bad luck I guess.

>>691802759
The targs had inbreeding in their background. Sometimes kids turn out fine sometimes they don't.

>>691802448

The prophecy calls for her little brother to kill her. That sounds like tyrion to me.

>>691802997
Joanna wasn't related to tywin either

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After the last episode i was wondering if some house just disappeared
The Tyrell house only has the old lady left, all the baratheon heir are dead with Renly Stannis and Robert (i thought jon was from lyanna and robert, turns out he was targaryen), I doubt Yara Greyjoy can provide her name to her heir, and i don't know if Cersei can still provide a heir for the Lannisters

I wonder if Jamie will kill Cersei and finally bang Brienne

>>691802912
This guy is right you know. If that baby was NOT a love child and rather a rape baby, why would Lyanna be so insistent to make Ned promise to look after it? Jon is def the love child of R+L. Although they were very careful to not say this 100% explicitly last episode. Just that it wasnt Roberts child...and that he would be mad if he knew the truth

>>691803149
Unless she came out before Jamie

>>691801847
That's what they want you to think.

- Jon has black hair, unlike the common Targ signature blonde
& It was Ned Stark who made the discovery of Rob's children's hair all being the wrong color that reiterates that
- They kept going on about Targs rape of lyanna but maybe it was such a reinforced story because it never actually happened, it was used as cover.

- "House Baratheon of Dragonstone
The crowned black stag of Baratheon enclosed within the fiery red heart of the Lord of Light."
Though this was Stannis Crest it may hint at the correlation between Jon's rebirth and the Baratheon name (if he is of Baratheon descent) with his ties to the lord of light.

>>691803149

Actaully Jaime was born after Cercei aswell, making him also her "little brother". Technically.

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>>691802912
>She wasn't kidnapped you fucking idiot.

The whole fucking precedence of Robert's Rebellion was over the fact that she was, in fact, forcefully spirited away and used as his fucktoy for whatever dumbshit prophecy he believed was worth risking his entire family and half the country over. He was a fool and a madman and got what he deserved from Robert.

>Don't act smug when you are in fact a faggot
My faggotry has nothing to do with this.

>>691802614
Robert would of never have known himself, Ned knew and kept it hidden knowing that if word of Robert cheating on Cersei got out, all hell would break loose.

>>691793552
gb is still a monarchy in 2016 you inbred

>>691803209

She was his cousin so yeah, they are pretty closely related. And lets not forget that all major families in Westeros has to some degree practised cousin marriage for thousands of years.

>>691803280
>Unless she came out before Jamie

She did. Cersei is the first born. The prophecy refering to her being killed by a younger brother is meant to be vague because she's the first born.

>>691801143
What force? she only controlled the mountain, a few guards and some children at when she blew up the great sept. How the tyrell army that was still in kings landing just let her get away with it is beyond me

>>691803548
Robert cheated on Cersie's all of the time.

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I always thought that Jon was Robert and Lyanna's son because the hair, and because the stupid witch said a baratheon would fight in the snow and win at winterfell

After last episode though i think he's a love child of a targaryen and a stark
that would make the whole war from robert against the targaryen a civil war so a drunk fat ass could get the girl who rejected him

>>691803149
The prophecy says the "valonqar" will strnagle her after she has lost her kids and everything has been taken from her. Valonqar could mean many things tho, not literally HER little brother

>>691803680
Not a first cousin so really not that close (but still gross). Targs married siblings

>>691798411
the thing is that jon isnt actually a bastard

>>691803764
>and because the stupid witch said a baratheon would fight in the snow and win at winterfell

That was in reference to Stannis.

>>691803826
jamie is her little brother too, this is the tweest

>>691803310
Lyanna had dark hair learn to genetics

>>691803548
>literally not understanding a show that is written for 12 year olds
kill yourself

>>691803935
>the thing is that jon isnt actually a bastard

Except he is though.

>>691803923

Joanna is the daughter of Jason Lannister, younger brother of Tytos Lannister, father of Tywin Lannister.

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>>691792653

>>691803967
>>691803967
Yeah i agree that is probably how its going to happen...but thinking it could be the hound too.

>>691803754
Clearly meant for word spreading of the bastard daughter of a Stark & Baratheon, would lead to Cersei 'taking measures' to make sure that child never gets the throne

>>691804301
Robert and Lyanna were never married so that couldn't happen anyway

>>691803935
Yes he is, he is a Blackfyre.
Or a Sand as he was born in Dorne,

>>691803958
yea but he lost and the lord of light is always right
thought it was a hint at jon's background

When the Northerners find out that Jons not Neds son, will they no longer accept him as king of the North?

>>691804623
He's still a stark

>>691804725
His claim would actually be more valid

>>691796534
fuck you time traveler , this is exactly what is going to happen

My only thing is how old do you think ned was when lyanna gave him jon? Early 20s at the oldest, and then in the first season how old? Like 50 or so? So the timeline just doesnt add up for jon's sake, that'd make him like like close to 30 in the first season, it just seems like the writers put their foot in their mouth with that.

Your mom will on my dick

>>691804559
She clearly lied tho, if she can misinterpret the Lord of Light that easily it's pretty obvious that he/she/it didn't spell the name Baratheon out for her but she interpreted it wrongly

>>691801770
Sorry I couldn't remember it exactly it was like 3 seasons ago

>>691804955
In the first book Ned is still in his 30s

>>691804559
>yea but he lost

In the show, yes. Not in the books.


>thought it was a hint at jon's background
Not really. If Jon were of Baratheon descent, there'd be no need to conceal his identity. Robert has never been hostile towards his bastards. Neglectful, assuredly. But never showed any malice.

If anything, he'd have probably welcomed Jon if he was actually Robert's get by Lyanna. Probably legitimize him and everything.

>>691794577
Top kek

>>691797957
That just aint true nigga, have you picked up any of the books before?

>>691792653
the child of Daenerys and jon snow

>>691804955
>Early 20s at the oldest

Late twenties. The characters are aged up slightly in the show. You could put Ned in his early 40s in season 1. Yeah, Bean was 50 (or pushing it) then, but it's still somewhat plausible.

>>691804955

In the books Ned/Kat are in the mid/late 30s and Roberts rebellion was 14-15 years prior to the events of the First book. Jon was 14-15 years old when he joined the Nights watch and Bran was 7-9 years old when he fell from the tower and arya being 9-10 and Sansa around 13. The actors in the series are everyone older than their fictional-book-counterparts for obvious reasons.

>>691805346
>That just aint true nigga, have you picked up any of the books before?

Yeah. And anyone who's read the books and isn't a Danyfag would agree with me. Robert had no true born heirs, and this meant that Stannis is his heir and the rightful king of Westeros.

>>691805507
Yeah, Danny was getting pounded by Drogo at like age 12 in the books. GRRM confirmed pedo

>>691805653
He attacked the acknowledged king so his claim would be void until he could prove Joffrey wasn't roberts kid

>>691803826
And valyrian is supposed to be gender neutral so little sibling may be more correct translation. It could be Arya that kills Cersei too

>>691805934

True, I suppose. But even still, as the reader, we know that by right of succession the throne is his.

>>691806266
The right belongs to one with the strongest army

>>691806816

Until that army comes, it belongs to Stannis (in the books, anyhow).

>>691807193
Actually in the books the lannisters the Tyrell's and the boltons have bigger armies

>>691807193
Look, tard. Stannis already tried his shot at taking kings labding by force and he fucking lost. That army has come and gone

>>691804898
sorry bud this post is about to hit 88 mph :P ^^

>>691792653
my dick

Littlefinger, once he convinces Sansa to shank Jon and claim the throne for herself.

>>691803764
Bobby B was a fucking babe at the time of the uprising. He got fat after taking the throne.

>>691803764
Anyone else horrified that the whole war was over Lyanna and she's not even hot. Like not even a 7/10...wtf, horrible casting