Ask Muslim terrorists who did using more antiquated weapons than a AR-15.

>implying goatherders havent been roflstomping us in the middle east for like 15 years with no assets.

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>>691678543
Yeah, mayb- No. Not one bit

>>691678543
Don't relinquish your weapons.

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>>691678779
Not really, they have had artillery pieces, missiles, tanks, armored vehicles, and even chemical weapons. Also, they lack something we have, morals.

>>691678543
No, not really. But why not go down swingin'?

>>691678543
Tell me how the Afghan war and Vietnam went again?

Something along the lines of under fed farmers 60s era Soviet fucked up the US, the most technologically advanced and highest funded military.

>>691679090
And we have something they dont, college educations...

>>691679347
this just fucking this all god damned day
/thread

>>691678543
AR15 Uses against pictured objects:
Drone:
Shoot transceivers.
Shoot pilots on base.
Shoot refueling truck drivers.

Apache:
Same.
Shit.
>minus transceivers

Tanks:
>implying the live in their tank
Wait for them to stick their fat head out when they're bored from three hours of nothing at a checkpoint.
>pop pop nigga

Missiles:
Shoot operators &/or at convoy resupplying the base.

Do you ignorant fucks think skynet runs all of our DOD toys?
Soft targets do.

>>691678543
100 million gun owners with a trillion rounds of ammo will certianly be effective.
Also, most soldiers won't do this to their families and friends.

>>691678543
implying the government would use them.
millennials, yes they are that stupid.

>>691679347
So much this. All that training and know how mean nothing when you caught with your pants down.

>>691678543
The thing is you have to look at it like this.
>No weapons subjugated by the higher powers with no course for redress.

>Weapons, forces a situation where military human beings must shoot and kill there own people and most likely won't.

Or in a case of home defence or active shooter situation, I have an AR the other guy has a hand gun.

Or in the case of invasion see Afghan posts.

>>691679772
this, the second the command to live fire on civilians there would be a military coop.

>>691679931
>there

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>>691678543
>what is vietnam
>what is afghanistan
It's actually very possible

>>691679347
Not really a fair statement. We didn't know the terrain in Vietnam, but the locals did. an was pretty much the same where we weren't familiar with the land. If anything, you'd want to use the IRA as an example because they fought in land that the enemy knew the location well, and it was closer to what a revolution in the US would be than 'Nam or Afghanistan.

>>691680187
thanks
i've been trying forevers

>>691679984
>I have no real argument so im going to throw my toys out of the pram.

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Right a AR-15 would be no defense against the military....of course the people in charge of deploying the military will not be in a tank. So they might be a little more worried than a Navy Seal

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>>691678543
Yeah, all the operators are going to kill their familiy and friends. That makes total sense. No one at all will split off and support the rebels. No one will subvert from the inside in support of the rebels.

fucking idiot shill

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>Be american
>Be paranoid about the government as a reason for your little dick to need "muh guns"

>>691680199

>Vietnam

Because the equipment and support they were getting form the soviets had absolutely nothing to do with it. Besides, the VC were willing to take as many casualties as they needed, most of the gun nuts over here would have shit themselves and surrendered within 15 minutes if they had to endure what they did.

>what is afghanistan

What is a U.S. strategy to get the shias and sunnis to exterminate each other to hamoer middle east oil production and keep China from getting their hands on it and surpassing us with their new resource base.

>>691680848
what are american based weapons factories?

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>>691678543
probably not. you should probably just have zero defense instead. just lay down and submit instead of having some non-zero amount of self defense.

>>691680426
Not really
A lot of yankees would never be able to understand the terrain and locale of the south, and I guarantee only a handful of southerners would remain union loyal. You could imagine the trouble the military would have trying to navigate the swamps and backwoods?

>>691680426
actually the IRA new alot of the local area very well and used it to their advantage massively in IRA neighbourhoods, they had people well placed within locals, had shortcuts etc, so home turf is always a huge advantage, even against police from three neighbourhoods over.

The US military could never deploy home units against its own populous, maybe in town right next to military bases were families would comply to their own enlisted loved ones, but they couldnt use the national guard without rotating them all somewhere else.

>>691680669

>So bad it proves the other sides point and dosen't even realize it.

So you're saying that victory lies almost entirely within the conciseness of the military to not shoot their own people?

That's what prevents tyranny, public awareness and an unwillingness to just blindly obey orders. Your guns are a moot point.

>>691681155

see

>>691680848

You lost back when we both had muskets.

>>691680452
>implying implications
I literally just pointed out the spelling mistake, bud

>>691678759
I think a commercial airliner is way too expensive for the common folk.

>>691680426
but the size of the US is also a big deal, this place is huge and you can not cover enough ground without having exposed supply lines.

To come back to the OP point - I never saw any sense in comparing a weapon using .223 Remington to anything else than a bucket of shit

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>Will an AR - 15 protect me from these things?

I think you're only proving that the dudebro argument is valid. If the purpose of an armed citizenry and a well-organized militia is to prevent fascist uprisings the citizens should be armed appropriate to defend themselves against military forces.

AR-15 is strictly anti-personnel.

For anti-equipment you'll obviously need heavier weapons with incendiary rounds. Pic related.

>>691679622
>implying you would even get near military personnel operating these systems.
Face it anon. Civilians only have access to semi auto weaponry. No military grade weapons, explosives or vehicles. No support and logistics to supply men with food, water and ammo.
If civil war happened here the military would steam roll the rebels and it would take less than a fortnight.

>>691679622
>tfw youre a refueling truck driver
oh fuck

>>691681155


SURE FAGGOT. THEY WOULD BOMB THE EVER LIVING SHIT OUT OF THOSE FATASSES. 2 DAYS OF BOMBING AND NO MCDONALDS AND THEY WILL BE SUCKING UNION COCK....AGAIN

government has all that vs a handfull of shitty hajis in iraq and they seem to be holding their own just fine

>>691678543
VIETNAM

Farmers with shitty guns and huerrila warfare > military technology

>>691678543
Kill the pilots
Kill the drone controllers
Destroy radio and cell towers, blocking local communication.

They wont use either of those. the G8 wouldnt allow it, and would retaliate on our side.

>>691680848
>What is a tinfoil hat.

Soviets helped the NVA greatly but China helped more, even so things like And/type 56 that levelled the playing field and forced the US weren't abundant till late war, people forget Vietnam lasted decades and that the majority of north Vietnamese fighters were doing so with machetes, old French weapons, shotguns, bolt actions (guerilla forces) and shitty WW2/Korean war stock.

Also this thread is about having an a AR so your point is moot as US citizens are as well armed as the populous of either of those wars.

>>691678543

Better than nothing.

>>691679622
>implying you have the skills to recon, infiltrate, and accomplish all those objectives you just listed
>implying a tank operator wouldn't just go back to base
>implying you'd even breach the perimeter of a respectable base
top trell

>>691681929

see

>>691680848


Who do shias hate more than anyone else?

Sunnis

Who do Persians hate more than anyone else?

Arabs

Who makes up the bulk of the insurgency in Iraq?

Sunni Arabs

Who makes up the bulk of the insurgency in Afghanistan?

Again, Sunnis.

What Persian Shia country is in a pincer grip in between them?

Yeah, exactly.

>>691679772
this
>>691679932
also this
source: currently a military member

at least half the military would defect.

>>691679772
>implying that much of the population own or even know how to operate a gun and that many ammo
>implying women and children wouldn't just run to the mountains

>>691680669
girl name?

Hunters with sniper rifles in the 10's of millions.

>>691681729
>too expensive
You can buy domestic flight tickets for less than $400 to anywhere in USA

>>691678543
>Implying the government would have total control over the military

>>691682259
>Implying rag heads do
>What's the body count in Afghanistan and Iraq again?

Have you ever watched videos of a serious tactical gun faggot on YouTube? They go on training weekends and half have served/have combat experience.

>>691682259
>implying NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE MILITARY, will not belive in fighting for their cause.
>implying they cant fuck up shit GLOBALLY with a few key commands

>>691678543
No it won't Protect you from these things. It will, however, allow you to puncture the skull of fascists and other tyrannical oppressors, from really far away.

All armored vehicle have a small weak spot. Aim for the small unarmored square, hit it about 3 times and that thing will fall and leave behind some awesome new weapon that will inevitably be the only thing the next boss will be weak to

>>691682442
Why would they run to the mountains? That is where the prviledged military and family hide out in the nuclear bunkers.
>norad

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>>691682586
Don't forget the box cutter and flight training.

>>691682097

A) The last country they were fighting against was France, and not only that post-ww2-entire-country-in-ruins-and-can-no-longer-afford-to-keep-a-prenesce-in-their-colonies-France.

B)It came right around the same time as US forces rolled in.

C)They were willing to let a sizeable chunk of their population die in order to achieve that. There isn't any organization within the US that would be willing to suffer like they did.

>>691681814
if shit went off and every man in every state took up arms, the military would be screwed. Thats why they bait fools in in small numbers and then arrest/kill them like in Oregon.

>opium farmers with hand me down AK's in afghanistan
>poor vietnamese with SKS's
vs the US gov't
Huh. Didn't work out too well.

>>691681674
that no one cared about? what a condescending basement dweller.

>>691678543

Used in conjunction with the AR-15's of other brave and freedom-loving patriots? Absolutely.

Would you like to know more?

>>691682442
armed households to unarmed is about 1:3

>>691682897
Oh yeah. 2.99 box cutter and Microsoft flight simulator off TPB

You anti gun gags are so fucking funny. "Oooh, a scary looking gun" "you neckbeards wouldn't stand a chance against a government army" "Your so fat you can't run" lolololololol

Guerilla warfare is where it's at bitches. Without clearly defined targets, the machines would be useless unless you carpet.bomb an entire area. So in fact it would be rather easy to fight a pro army with citizens, so long as citizens have roughly the same armament as soldiers. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, shall I go on cucked bitches? Go to /k/ and LURK.

>>691678543

idiot op thinks ARs will be aimed at tanks

>>691679622
This nigga know how to Guerilla.

Guys, if it ever comes to pass that we free U.S. Citizens need to start fighting our own Gov, can we all agree to call our selves Gorillas instead?

I just really want the meme to come true.

>>691680118
>powergrid
>mfw 75% of powergrid is running on baud/dialup connections.
>mfw it has no protective means
>mfw you can hack the powergrid with a toaster
>mfw this has already happened
>chinamen powerpowered generator to maximum and it blew up

>>691678779

>implying you know what "roflstomping" even means

>protip: you don't

>>691682676
Implying the gov't doesn't have way more of such individuals and equipment.

>>691678543
>>691681730
this is very important, logistics are not to be fucked with. Also, size of military vs size of rednecks with guns (consider military deserters etc, who will probably train their friends). Homemade stuffs, sheer numbers, and of course the capitol is literally surrounded by civs (potential soldiers, with some guns and training). Unless the govt flees to another country, they are not safe anywhere, except maybe NORAD or something. All this being said, this is all fanatic fantasy. Its not that I dont believe that there are sheisty govt officials pushing for big brother, but I think that there are more pushing against it, even if it is not their choice (i.e. puppet republican party)

>>691683002


except that 60% of the men are overweight or obese, and 90 percent of them are pussies (including you)

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>>691679090

They have "morale" not morals.

Funny how the US military actually has a very poor track record against armed civilian populations.

This is the sort of argument that only flies on a soundbite driven cult of groupthinkers. If the government ever brought the military to bear on the US population, it would be an absolute fucking nightmare for the military.

Sending forces against the population from which they were recruited is possibly one of the biggest mistakes in the long history of warfare. Not only would you deal with obvious morale issues and mass defections, but your enemy has no supply lines, a terrain advantage, and blends in with civilians.

Seriously, use your fucking heads and stop falling for these ridiculous facebook shares from Bernie Sanders zealots and europhiles.

>>691683203
Yeah totally, conscript teenagers to replace those battle trained freedom fighter, definatly a good idea!!!!>!#@$#!@!!!!

>>691683010

except those people had literally nothing to live for, happily accepted the first-hand horrors of war, and were hard as fuck

dont pretend for a second that a soft ass ameircan in 2016 has the same kind of outlook that these people do.

>>691678543
leftist shill

>>691683415
"argue within my arbitrary conditions :^)" Get that leftist shit out of here.

>>691683010
Nukes would have prevented the problem. but oh no the USA Global MIlitary cant do the bad thing cause the tea drinking faggots think its wrong

>>691683488
Fuck you and your hitler dubs facist. I'm a member of the Armed Left, and don't you fucking forget we exist.

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>>691683415

Also

>Still not acknowledging the massive amount of support they received from the outside.

You people realize that they had these in addition to their ak's right?

>>691683222
hey, I'm not saying I'm Rambo. I'm saying the numbers favor us. Also the military would have massive desertion and soldiers would flat not obey orders because they have a directive to not obey any unlawful order. I think its a non issue but as I said if everyone picked up guns and started taking shit over the military would have its hands full.

>>691683203

They don't. You don't seem to understand that the government is a subset of the population. There are millions more gun owners in this country than there are soldiers.

>>691679932
>the second the command to live fire on civilians there would be a military coop.
>military coop
>coop

kek

Also I doubt it. Some soldiers might have a moral issue with it but most will be deployed well away from where they signed up, get spoonfed some shit they want to hear ("these domestic terrorists are x group you disagree with") and they'll have a jolly old time gunning down people they're told hate America and hate them.

Not to mention they won't be told "just go nuts, gun down civvies, aim for the women and children they're good sport." They'll be told there are some militant nutjobs trying to overthrow society and install some fascist government or some shit, and that those militant nutjobs need to be stopped. Bonus points if they're told their way of life is threatened and that the people who joined the military - and their families - will be the first to go in this horrible new world order. Revolutions and civil wars are basically never "The people vs the government" in a clean split. There will be average joes who side with the government and soldiers who side with the revolutionaries. It'd be a mess. There's a reason that political internal civil wars are so fucking bloody, people are vicious cunts given the right motivation.

I am willing to actually admit that i love.guns because of the mechanical design and on the flip side i just lile knowing that this object that i hold in my hands can take or save a human life. Super power trip.
Only mentally retarded dude bros actually believe "i need muh guns because government " but we all say it because we are autistic and think its a good excuse.
Now can we plz end this stupid shit about why we should be allowed to have guns?
For the same reason i want a blowjob, i like them and i will kill you if u stop me from getting one.

>>691683415
Funny thing about actual oppression anon? It makes hard people really fucking fast.

>>691683222
>checked
Also if there was civil war wouldn't some of the bases rebel as well? Especially the ones close to towns

>>691682651
How of them are there? Are they a significant amount of people, that could oppose the US forces?

>>691682676
US isn't north korea. We're implying a scenario here, which implyes that the US goverment manages, or hase resonable support in their endeavour to go against their citizens. Clearly, in the real world, as many have said before me, any such sudden explosive action would be met with NEGATIVE response from EVERYONE (or at least the 99.999999%)

>>691679380
Yes, your basketweaving degree from dickhead state university will count for a lot in this particular, or any particular, life & death situation

>>691678543
Problem is CRIMES committed with a gun.
These CRIMES are already against the law. Ya know, some of that legislation ya lefties want more of, as a solution.

How bout, stiff ass, hard ass, no sweetness tough prison time for any crime committed with a gun. Put em away, or death penalty. No talking time sentenced down. Be hard, let it be known.

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>>691678543
No it wont. But I was at the mall and Nancy Pelosi got out of a limo with only two security.

She was about 20 yards away all their backs turned to me.

Would of been so easy to kill the traitor cunt and drive off.

You see they think the are better than you, so force them to never come out of their ivory towers.

Then we burn the fuckers down.

>>691683415

You're making the mistake of thinking that it'd be Connor from Vermont and not Cletus from Alabama.
There are rednecks used to living in miserable squalor.

>>691683580
>>691683580

mother fucker, do you think for a second you're as hard as some taliban mother fucker who grew up eating rocks, saw everyone he loved killed, and who's idea of luxury is fucking a goat.

nevermind that in order for these people to acheive their limited successes over the us military, they had to literally give up everything, i.e their communities, their houses their families their livelihoods were all destroyed. They are literally the most dangerous types of people on the planet, because they have nothing to live for. Total death drive.

Are you prepared to strap an old russian land mine to your chest and dive under a humvee? I'm guessing your dumbass probably wouldn't even be able to live without applebees.

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>>691679984
Excellent contribution there, fucko

>>691678543

Those things aren't going to be used against you, OP.

Ever.

Even the Jews were rounded up by foot patrols.

>>691684011
>i like them and i will kill you if u stop me from getting one
This is the exact and only reason to have a gun. If you don't like my guns then my response is the same as a few rather famous Greeks.

>Come and take them.

>>691679347

Oh god... What does it really take to be this ignorant?

>>691683181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9q2lOZ1Fw
RedTeam has done this, and you can clearly assume hacks like those have happend before, for pentesting puposes.

>>691683911

The idea of a military coup also hinges strongly on the mis perception that the military is all right-wing white guys like them.

The US gov't takes great pains to ensure the military is diverse as possible. For this reason among others.

>>691678543
americans think guns protact againt guns, ignoring the logic that unless you're some kind of movie physics ninja, a gun doesn't stop a bullet. guns are reactive offense, not defence. leaving aside for a moment the generous quantity of evidence that most people fail to respond appropriately in an active shooter situation, I will draw your attention to the fact that the best defence against a tyrannical government is education. American education is, outside of the ivy league power elites, a crock of shit. and so despite the fact that everyone gets a 'vote', no-one outside of the power elites really gets a say. 'obama is a good man and will change things' he has changed jack shit of significance. 'but trump will change things for the better' - trump is an eye-rolling, tongue out sociopath that takes jimmy savilles hiding in plain sight to epic levels.

tl:dr this is the planet of the mad and the stupid. enjoy your stay

>>691684359
>How bout, stiff ass, hard ass, no sweetness tough prison time for any crime committed with a gun.
For every tricky problem there is one obvious, simple solution that won't work. It's been tried. All that happened was more prisons were built because the existing ones were full of petty drug-possession offenders.

>>691684476
>Are you prepared to strap an old russian land mine to your chest and dive under a humvee?

I think you've got it in your head that the single only effective way to wage a guerilla war is to act like some muslim extremist.

So the logic here is if you don't have the heavy firepower your government does, you might as well have no firepower at all?
Oh, I forgot, people who make memes to prove their arguments are typically retarded.

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>>691683911
Your are correct my friend. Settle old scores, clean the hood a bit too.

Look at Bleeding Kansas for what the whole country would be like.

Lord my boner is throbbing just thinking about it too.

All those fat bastards starving in the dark when the power and food are cut off.

All those spoiled cunts sitting in their own filth because theres no more running water and soap.

>>691684536
How about me? I love guns, but prefer not have them available on walmart. It's kind of stupid to own a ferrari if everyone else has a ferrari, namsayin?

>>691679932
the cops already live fire on civilians every fucking day. how can you people be this divorced from reality

>>691678779
>no assets
Those Soviet ak-47s were just popping up out of nowhere during operation desert storm right?

>>691684383
>Would of been so easy to kill the traitor cunt and drive off.
And you probably wonder why we want better gun laws?
People like you are the problem but we're not allowed to cull you.

>>691684220

Some of them maybe. But that assumes that the guys in the military think like these idiots and are just hankering to die for muh constitution.


I wouldn't want to plan a military campaign based on an assumption that big, nor would I want to plan a military campaign where the bulk of my forces would be self-aggrandizing dipshits like those morons up in oregon.

The kind of idiots who lied about their military experience and their combat readiness, swore a tearful oath to defend the constitution, and then immediately set about eating all their food and playing grab ass in the high plains winter. Zero discipline as evidenced by the fact that fist fights broke out, guys were sneaking off into town to get drunk etc. And then when it came time to lay it all on the line for the ghost of thomas jefferson, only one of them had the guts to go for his gun.

> Not exactly the Taliban

is what i'm saying.

>>691683383
Yeah because it's been ww3 the last 10 years.
9/10 faggots who have been in the military haven't seen or done shit.
So sorry but no hurrr durr battle hardening.

>>691683764
Most of which are faggots who have guns with no or little training as they are lazy under achieving faggots who have guns to feel some sense of power.
Also we have loads of beaners in this country. They can take them in give them training and guns and there ya go.
No loyalty to the US nor the people who live in it.

>>691684852
>because the existing ones were full of petty drug-possession offenders.

Pretty drug-possession isn't a crime committed with a gun. Being tough on drugs and being tough on gun crime are very different things. Obviously some drug-related crime also involves firearms, but then you can punish harder for firearm use rather than just drug use.

>>691684018

except these people had been living like animals for generations, and had been in a state of more or less constant warfare for 30 years.

>>691678543
They dont really think this, they think they're gonna die in a blaze if glory when the cops come to bust them for their fantasy Son of Anarchy outlaw life style.

If you were a real badass you wouldnt be so picky with your weapons.

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>>691685111
Good God 11 to 111

must be the 1 true truth

>>691685119
>It's kind of stupid to own a ferrari if everyone else has a ferrari, namsayin?

So you consider owning a firearm as a prestige luxury to show off? That's a retarded reason to own a gun. I hope you don't get your gun gold plated or some shit.

>>691685406

this guy gets it


own all the guns you want as far as im concerned, but don't be the first one to volunteer to fire on fort Sumter or whatever. Cuz uncle sam is gonna put you in the dirt.

>>691683133
I'll take area denial nerve agents for $500

>what is VX?

>gun debate trwads only b treads that max out posts
>military is full of rebs (libs wash out)
>if the government blew up its subjects it would have no one to rule/protect against outside threats
>3/10 bait

/thread

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>>691678543
No, but the 3% of the population that is or was military will. Look, we vets know how the war machine works, we also love teaching. We can teach you weak points on armor, how to hide, how to shoot. It's what we do. One guy figures it out and it gets disseminated to others who do the same thing. We are masters of exploiting.

And 99% of us have a dislike of our government. Our oath is to the Constitution and to the people.

You want to learn you some shit? Go to the VA, sit down with one of us... we'll learn you some shit.

>>691685804
lewis and clark and thomas jeff had 22 round assault rifles. cannons? grenades? LOOK OUT BOYS ITS TIME TO ABANDON THREAD..THE ONLY 13 YEAR OLD ITS MY DUTY TO EDUCATE IS ONE I CREATE OUT MY BALLSACK...THESE KIDS AINT MINE

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>>691685228
wow, missed the point

the horrible gun kills those that enslave us

you will not fight the Army, but those who claim to be your betters and know "whats good for you"

but ol' Vladimir Lenin had a term for your kind

>>691685902
>weak points on armor,

What is this, a medieval tourney?

Shut the fuck up lmao.

>>691679347
I'll take the bait. We accomplished the goal of ousting the Taliban in Afghanistan, and we were fighting a war of attrition in Vietnam. We weren't anything close to destroyed in either conflict.

>>691685902
ur pissing in the wind.

>>691686129

Tanks and vehicles, you fucking idiot.

>>691686129
this guy never wore armor in a warzone. lets hear his opinion.

>>691686151
>ousting the Taliban in Afghanistan

Really, faggot?

>>691680711
See Ukraine 2014, See Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan in 2011.

Keep believing that it won't/can't happen here

>>691678543
I'm sure that's what the British government thought about US muskets during the revolutionary war.

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>>691686151
>We accomplished the goal of ousting the Taliban in Afghanistan

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>>691678543

Oh look...it's THIS thread again.

This thread has been done thousands of time on /k/, thousands of times on other sites, the US military has drawn up plans upon plans, the CIA, FBI, NSA and dozens of other alphabet soup agencies have warplanned and gamed this to death. If the US civilian population is armed, as the second amendment and our founders intended, the US government losses every time.

>>691684960
it's killed thousands of us soldiers so far

>>691686313
yeah. no one has ever conquered afghan in 5000 years and everyone has tried. but how many taliban cities u see there. if i get brain damage boxin you and your cousins but all 5 of you leave town...are you and ur cousons in my town? welcome to earth

>>691681814
>implying civil war in the U.S. wouldn't be between fragmented portions of the military and private security
it's not the civil war i would be worried about, it's what comes after

>>691686374
plus the 5 wars weve fought on out own soil in the pasr 2oo years. ahmehgehd my ps4 so good only a faggot would think anyone could intude on my basement of solitude

>>691684960

Fine ask those motherfuckers in FARC, or the LRA or the Tamil Tigers how much computer time they're allowed or when the last time they slept in an air conditioned room was.

Build a time machine and go back an ask Confederate Soldiers what it was like to spend the winter of '65 shuffling around the countryside with no boots on.


I'm not anti-gun. But this idea that the american citizenry could rise up with their guns and overthrow the government in a violent coup is completely ridiculous.

>>691686129
Armor as in Tanks you fucking faggot.

>>691686431
like to strangle that faggot with his scarf

>>691686477

And that makes it the single only effective way to wage a guerilla war how, exactly?

Drunk driving has killed more Americans than muslim terrorism, why don't we just wage our guerilla war by driving drunk?

Ummmm good point ?
How I could stop a fucking thank or
A fuckinf f16 with a fucking ak-47 ?

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>Let's level an entire city street to kill someone with an AR15
Yup, great way to get people on your side
>Implying the average soldier will attack and level neighborhoods where his friends live

Besides, if this really does ever happen, you are stupid to fight them directly. Find out who the soldiers are who haven't yet defected to the rebellion, and fucking kill their families in the night.
Hit them where it hurts, same with the politicians. Cut their children's throats while they sleep.

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Anti gun faggot dump?

>>691685406
>ww3
The military budget is over $1,000,000,000
This is just spending da munies on da bombz.
Its including military pay and benifits.
Tell me a marine with 2 years of training wont have an edge on hilly billy bumb fuck.

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Only reason you faggots are even posting here right now

>>691686299
>>691686299


Sure, explain to us the weak spots on a tank that would be vulnerable to civilian weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45glq7huJJc

>>691686870
Bro, A parachuting pilot shot down a Japanese Zero with a fucking handgun. It can be done.

>>691686738
and you wont be welcome in my camp and my people do/will disdain you. romantics are we all..but bleeding hearts can bleed out

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>>691686431

except the french won the revolutionary war.

it was a war between superpowers

>>691686663
The only reason they aren't openly in Kabul right now is because we're still there.

Everywhere else we withdrew from is back to business as usual.

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Why does anyone give a fuck if they ban assault rifles anyway? Just fucking break the law. I have no respect for the "justice system" in America. Fuck em.

But everybody acts like nothing less than a magazine fed rifle will do if some shit goes down.

"Oh no, they've banned magazine fed rifles, now I have handguns shotguns lever guns fixed mag repeaters from World War II era revolvers and bolt actions to choose from. How will I ever defend myself now?"

Pretty fuckin well from the looks of it, unless you're a pussy.

>>691686870
if you dont know..listen?

>>691686920
“Remember this. The people you're trying to step on, we're everyone you depend on. We're the people who do your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner. We make your bed. We guard you while you're asleep. We drive the ambulances. We direct your call. We are cooks and taxi drivers and we know everything about you. We process your insurance claims and credit card charges. We control every part of your life.

We are the middle children of history, raised by television to believe that someday we'll be millionaires and movie stars and rock stars, but we won't. And we're just learning this fact. So don't fuck with us.”

>>691687051

you need help

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>>691687083

You might try being an active participant in your government and actually affect change through voting for candidates you believe in and constantly voicing your opinion to your local senator on the issues that matter. I mean honestly, the idea that you're gonna be able to take on a trained force is so ignorant. No amount of stockpiling will ease your paranoia. It's based fully in your lethargy. If the government does ever turn on us, it is solely our fault for not being more vigil in our civic duties. Now excuse me, i gotta go to a party to watch GoT. See you guys in the stockades.

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>>691686374
>Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan
mudslime countries
>Ukraine
eastern european country

when you start with shit, you're gonna get shit.

mfw diabetes kills more americans than all the guns

you can't shoot diabetes americunts. the weapon is not the gun, it is the mind, and all your minds are what you eat, fucking lard and cornsyrup

>>691686781
Good luck exploiting the weakness of an MBT you fucking fedora tipping cuckold.

>>691686944
thats per day retard. the iraq war was 3 bill a day. i only got a couple hundo in my wallet too, but were talking about THE superpower.

let's put something out there once and for all. The federal govt has been inching and inching it's way into the constitutional rights for years. Lately we've seen the liberal college scene grooming our youth to accept limits on freedom of speech at best and at worst hate it all together(see mizzou, Yale, and Emory). It's no secret that the left wants our guns. And the second amendment protects the 1st and the rest. So the left gets in there and they say fuck it. No more second amendment(if they don't care about how constitutional their actions are then all they gotta do is say fuggit). Ok. So you give up your guns. Unarmed populace(hypothetical). So now what's to stop them from doing away with the 1st? Nothing. So now you can't hurt people's feelings. No what else you can't do? Bitch about the govt(this is called dissent. All communist nations punish dissenters for speaking out against their govt). Ok so no more 2a or 1a. What's next? Well there's the 4th. No unlawful search and seizure. But the govt wants your shit. No more 4th and you can't do dick. Might as well get rid of that pesky 14th while we're at it. States don't deserve rights in the new liberal utopia. I'm still carrying the hypothetical. At this point we'd be fucked enough that the govt will likely just make us part of Merkels NWO. But hey. At least we don't have guns right? In reality the 2nd is what keeps this from happening. Not only do we have a heavily armed and well trained populace of millions of legal and sane gun owners. But the military and state, county, and local law enforcement have all sworn oaths to defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic. Not to defend the federal govt. so if shit really hits the fan, we will be fine. We will have revolution. It will be bloody. And the constitutional America we all love will win the day as every red blooded American will be right there to defend it.

>>691687222
Nice trips

What's this from? Sound familiar

>>691678543
AK-47 has protected the middle east from Russia and America just fine with a few IEDs spattered through. So yeah, in the end it will because boots on ground will beat any amount of bombs, missiles, or choppers.

The idea isn't fighting a conventional fight against choppers, bombs, and planes. But the idea that you can have your effective weapon hidden and at any opportune time you can showup where you are expected least and kill the right people. This tactic prevents the government from indiscriminately bombing everyone. People who say things like that meme have never been in an actual war or combat in their life.

>>691678543

The government will trick the armed populace to use the guns on each other. They won't have to use the military.

>>691678543
Considering the goat fuckers in Iraq and Afghanistan weren't wiped out in a few seconds I like my odds as long as the rest of the US stay armed we have a chance if our government decide to cross the line.

>>691687354
Fucking mudslimes do it all the fucking time. You boi pucci loving, cum guzzling faggot.

>>691687091
and now france owns th united statea. whwn will the frwnch influence end? im so tired of them dictating our policy. overthrow france! youre a fucking retard with no concept of shit except wading thru cp to post a vague stupid opinion noone will ever read

>>691687253
greatest of all time

>>691686374

If you think things are as bad in the US now as they were in those countries when those "revolutions" occurred you are mistaken.

>>691687405
fight club

>>691687612
your government crossed the line decades ago, you are actually the product of their misdeeds....confused, violent, stupid.

>>691687626
>>691687626

To my knowledge not one american abrams with the fancy reactive armor has ever been lost in combat in either the war in iraq or afghanistan.

>>691687746
Ah yes now I remember

>>691687689
You are implying that it would never happen. It has and it will.

Maybe you don't watch the news faggot. But shit around here isn't rosey.

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>>691678543
OP pic is a great illustration of why at the VERY LEAST the people should be armed with decent "assault rifles". We were meant to have a better balance of power than this to keep the government in check.

>>691687439
kek "protected" as if this conflict isnt exactly what russia and america want

>>691687905

LOL if you think your guns are doing anything to keep the government in check.

>>691687224
i am the help bro. i dont own a weapon because im a vet and 7 out of ten people i know own at least one assault rifle and several pistols. i dont have to carry one daily to k ow what my role is if and when war returns in my lifetime. only an illiterate would think war isnt coming here again, and im not screaming that its coming tommorrow..but im aware it could. grow ur peach fuzz mustache and jerk it into ur dirty tshirts, you can grow my crops when the dust settles

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>>691687651

is their something wrong with your fingers, your brain or both?

wtf does that even say?

>>691687849
Tank on tank combat no. IED, snipers... yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_M1_Abrams

Several

>>691680426
You forget every military action would be through the neighborhoods of their own families, the soldiers families, their children. When you talk about a civil war in the states you're talkin about how many soldiers would turn guns on their own people.

>>691681986
>Implying that wars since WW2 weren't simply nonwars "fought" for the purpose of making money instead of actually winning

>>691678543
ask the faggot arabs in iraq and afghanistan you fucktard

Why AR15?
Why not AK47?

>>691686738

American soldiers were the same fucking pampered people. Then basic training puts them straight, and basic only takes a couple of months. After that, some horrifying bullshit hardens them up and you've got some tough dudes. It's not like the process for becoming hardened to warfare is "welp, you had a nice upbringing guess you're shit outta luck."And even that's discounting all of America's poverty stricken population that already lives in shitty conditions as it is. You're pretending like every American is some upper middle class white dude.

You're right that if a civil war kicked off you'd have a lot of people being fucking miserable and dying in droves, but don't get it in your head that in a country of 300 million people there aren't a few thousand that have their shit together, and many thousands more that can get their shit together. In general, when someone's ass is put to it, they learn pretty quick.

Also remember that "the government" isn't some monolithic 100% loyal entity. Depending on the cause at least sections of the military would be sympathetic.

I'm not even saying "I guarantee a violent revolution would work" or "I think we should have a violent revolution" I'm just saying that you don't need to be Ahmed Talib whose parents died when he was 3 to toughen the fuck up and fight a war.

>>691687253
yep. but the same faggots keep sayong hurrdurr drones like theres not a 19 year old from wv or sc piloting said bird. over and over in redundant threads.

>>691687626
>implying we used tanks in afghan
>implying any of the whole 16 we sent were ever taken out by insurgents

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>>691688170

Militia groupations can be instantiated in a matter of weeks, required weaponry to match an govt. ran army would be built/stolen/defected in a matter of months.

The idea here is that the govt. wouldn't even dare to try and attack its own citizens. Might makes right.

All these faggots forget how a single person with limited ammunition and a rifle can cause panic and disrupt normal operations.

Just remember the panic the DC sniper caused. No amount of police, military, automatic weapons, jets, bombs, attack helicopters and tanks could do shit about this. They'd have to be flying over 24/7 and have 100% coverage of the terrain in order to catch someone.

Sure, they eventually caught the guy but what if more than one guy takes up such operations? It would be endless and the fear of whatever organization trying to catch this guy would make them think twice.

>>691688218
Iraq numbnutz. You about a rock ain't ya?

>>691679090
>>691683275
You invade poeple's countries for money and expect them to follow some sort of moral code when dealing with you, the intruder?
Is this really what burgers expect?

>>691688234
I like your style sir.

But legit, I'd definitely choose the AK over an AR platform. AKs never jam no matter what the conditions and can cut into 5in steel plating without even using AP rounds.

>>691678543
The system of capitalism and democracy lies in the people volunteering to give that power through taxes and votes. If the people have saw fit too take up arms against the system any escalation using weapons of mass destruction would cause them to cease participation in such a system causing its eventual collapse. The army is 2 million strong most of whom are deployed overseas, the population is 320 million. If the people turn on the system they wouldn't stand a chance.

>>691681847
Underageb&

>>691679347

This: The same leftcucks who say shit like this are also the same ones falling all over themselves to talk about how the U.S. Lost in Vietnam and Iraq.

Also they're for lining lefists up and shooting them.

>>691678543
The military couldent use the full force on its own civlians. If it did, or even a fraction of the force, no military wants to fight their own population, they would lose. The military is comprised of people, and all military are massively out numberes by its civlian counter part. If militaries have problems with IED then imagine an uprising. Not to mention defectors, or the fact that economy would suffer and consequently so would military force.

>>691688361
Lmao you mean the ones taken out by ATG missiles? Yeah that's really relevant to what civilians are going to be doing.

How many of those do you have stockpiled in your moms basement?

>>691687905

guns are fuckin pointless in this day and age when government overpowers us all

they are just used to kill people in nightclubs and innocents and schools nowadays

>>691688038
tjeres 3 typos rthat are easily interpreted. 1/10 cuz reply.

>>691679622
You forgot optics in the tank, rotors (if you manage to hit) on the apache, and the hydrolic system that angles the missiles for when they're getting ready to launch

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>>691688012
That's the point, the guns aren't even in the same league as the weapons the government has. But I bet they do serve as a little bit of a vanguard, the government is very concerned about militia groups and keeping the citizens under-powered.

>>691687612

>not understanding how civil war in an armed militaristic dominated place of the world is different to syria and iraq.

nice education bro.

>>691686313
We did, i mean they are coming back now that we left. But it didnt take very long to kick them put of the citys they controlled, just like how in Iraq the entire iraqi army routed in a few hours or how the vietcong got royally fucked up every time they engaged American personel on a large scale,not really a fair comparsion i think bevause the vietcong were ass holes who did not have support of the local population people seem to forget how many people they murdered.

>>691688745
You must watch the news a lot you seem to know the facts

abandoning troll thread. good luck young tusk grower, i cant see u thru adolescence...but i know ull be strong. for the horde.

>>691688745
>kill people in nightclub

good. If you suck the cock, you get the glock, faggot.

>>691688639

>Not to mention defectors, or the fact that economy would suffer and consequently so would military force.

This is something a lot of people fail to account for in the event of a revolution. If your own industry falls apart because your workers are trying to overthrow you that's a problem that you can't address with an Abrams tank. The American military's logistical tail is fucking massive.

>>691686374
>Ukraine
What that russia will invade?

>>691688018

i'm gonna refer back to my previous statement

you're actually delusional. I hope you can get the help you need.

>>691689006
Oh I'm not saying the Yanks couldn't steamroll just about anybody.

I just doubt how much long-term good we did in Afghan, and we royally fucked up in Iraq/Nam.

>>691689072
>that line
topkek

>>691683063
>armed households to unarmed is about 1:3

Don't put too much faith in the polls that show declining rates of firearm ownership. These days, people are much less likely to tell a nosey stranger they have a gun than they would have been decades ago.

in the event of violent revolution the military will be on the side of the citizenry. I've said this before.
Obama: military, kill civilians
Military: Y tho
Obama: some unconstitutional fuckery
Military: lol no

>>691688606
The soviet union was defeated by economic means. the invention of nukes ended the possibility of decisive warfare. as a result populations are enslaved through economic means. if you doubt me then just remember this post next time you pay your taxes and the govt then uses those taxes to do something you disagree with

brb listning to country boy can survive...which hopefully will raise my morale since ive realized im arguing with sarcastic trolls and niggers on a thinly veiled cp board about everything i hold dear in the real world.

>>691680426
You know how many Yankee boys would join that fight? You guys think of the north as all metropolitan areas. Go stroll around the Adirondacks or the catskills. Same thing. Lots of backwoods.
I swear I can drive 20 min from my city and find stars and bars flying below the us flag. And I live in western NY

>>691689419
Truf. I just jumped my wife's shit for telling our sons Doctor that we have guns. It's a plot from the federal govt to account for guns in homes. As far as my sons safety is concerned all of mine stay in various safes and vaults and my carry is in a lockbox that only I know the combo to.