With mods, and survival mode, I'm really enjoying far harbor. The game seems to respond really well to molding with is the big one for me.

>>691301160
Modding

Kind of feels like they dumbed down most things for a wider audience. There's like, what, 2 or 3 established towns in the whole game

Fallout 4 is amazing and fun with mods but boring and consoles and the dlc is meh only farharbor is okay also kinda excited for.make ur own vault dlc

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>>691301160
I'm a console pleb with 4, I got NV on pc and modded the shit out of it and loved it, but my current PC can't handle 4.

I will say, I really like the new Survival mode; I started a new character and I'm only a few hours in, but it's very satisfying, and that's without getting to any DLC content yet.

>tfw the first deathclaw one-hits you in power armor

>>691301504
agreed. Really lacking in interesting, eccentric characters imo

It's shit. I have thousands of hours in F3 and NV.
The entire game, you are the errand boy/girl. You never truly can make an impact in the grand scheme of things.
Your big choices are, kill this group, or join them. That's it. New Vegas and even Fallout 3 were so much more intuitive story wise than 4 is.
4 is just an open world first person shooter frankly.

>>691300802
Underwhelming, but I wasn't really expecting much after skyrim. They don't know if they're making an action game or an rpg, so they half ass both. Combat is shit compared to other fps's, and the rpg-elements are shallow compared to other rpg's. The quests, characters and the world in general is pretty bland. Bethesda has lost their charm.

>>691301833
FO4 mods are on console you dumbass.

Fucking idiots I swear.

>>691302387
They're not on PS4 yet. Later this month


http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2016/06/21/fallout-4-mods-are-having-some-problems-on-ps4/#336d11274b3f

Was super excited when it came out but then I played a couple hours and just didnt get sucked in like I did with the other games. Had to force myself to play it every time thinking oh this will get better im sure but it didnt and I just kept forcing myself, eventually I just stopped and thought why am I even doing this I'm clearly not enjoying it and its been sitting on my shelf gathering dust ever since.

>>691302854

this ... shitty game was too easy. Wasteland my ass; more like treasure land ...

I enjoyed FO4
The things that irk me
>dialogue system
>no real karma system
>cardboard sidequests
Other than that, i enjoyed it alot.

>>691303300
It's strong on exploration. I miss finding truly unique loot, though. I feel like the legendary weapons aren't special like going and finding something that is truly one of a kind

and yeah the sidequests are boring

>>691303563
Yeah. I wish the weapons crafting was a bit better. It felt like just make whatever is the most powerful and go shoot. It didnt feel like it had a real purpose.

>>691300802
Way too easy. Even the new survival. "Rare" items were far too easy to get. Not sure how people bitches about not having fusion cores for their armor...I had 176 of them when I beat the game the first time. Didnt even use that clunky shit the second playthrough. It's too inconvenient and not actually that much better than fully upgraded armor.

Ammo system is shit (NV shined here), melee and throwing weapons is shit, unarmed combat is WORSE than Fallout 1, there's only two ways to end every story arc (be good or be bad), there's almost no speech/int/chr/str/dex checks on any dialogues. Cooking/survival system dumbed down to shit (NV shined here too, the best food made you kinda godly) and no way to transition or recycle ammunition. Settlements are ultimately pointless and do nothing to further your personal goals (oh goodie, 2 extra fucking razorwheat every 7 days).

The DLCs are laughably bad. They're worse than the Headhunter DLCs for Borderlands 2, but at least Gearbox was honest and said the Headhunter packs would be small. Bethesda just lied.

Am I the only one that kind of hates the settlement building system.
I mean it could have been cool but I feel like they put way to much thought into it while they should have been focusing on other things
If I wanted to play the sims I'd go play the fucking sims

>>691302651
Sonyggers when will they learn

>>691304138
>bethesda just lied

Is this really coming as a shock to anyone?

>>691300802
Bethesda fucked fallout 4 into oblivion "no pun intended"
Here are some of the major fuckups the cunts at Bethesda made.
>dialog system is complete trash, it's simple enough a 4 year old could come up with it, there are no secret dialog options, there is no funny things you could say like in 4 and NV
>skill tree is now garbage
Without a point based system, it's over simplified the game, it was only a perk based system and you you made 1 choice per level-up, with the points you assigned to different skills it extremely increased player customization, it further immersed yourself into the game
>they gave us power armor far to early on
I know I was extremely excited my first time in the power armor, but after that initial excitement, there really was nothing left, other than finding cores and more armor
>not enough locations or more specifically IMPORTANT locations, there arnt many quests that tie locations togather like in previous games, you don't get the fun feeling of doing an errand, only to be sidetracked by another errand, only to end up somewhere completely different, in fallout 4 it's just "well they want me to go here, I'm here, they want me to do this, I did this"

Bethesda fucked fallout 4, it's still a good game, but it's the 2nd worst fallout game

That is to say, without mods

>>691304410
>Am I the only one that kind of hates the settlement building system

I take it you haven't been to /v/ that much?

>>691304138
>there's almost no speech/int/chr/str/dex checks on any dialogues
Wrong. There are millions of them. None of them change anything though, making it even worse.

Fallout 4 is fun enough but it's no New Vegas.

Obsidian has voiced interest in doing a follow up to FO4 like they did with NV for FO3, that's what I'm really waiting for.

>>691304607
>implying the mods fix the core problems

>>691304748
Mainly everything is just speech checks. The game is easy as shit if you just max your Charisma early on.

>>691304495
Nope. But MFW Bethesda did the April Fool's gag for a DLC saying Ulysses had contacted the Lone Survivor. And a shitload of people bought it.
>Ulysses wouldnt set foot in your piece of shit FO4 game, hes too busy being godly in The Divide

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>>691304628
>/v/
God no

>>691304748
>Wrong. There are millions of them. None of them change anything though, making it even worse.
Fucking where? My second playthrough was 8 int 8 chr energy weps, fucking where are those dialogue checks?

>>691304844
It'll be fucked, though, because they'll probably have to follow up with a voiced MC, which fucks over the dialogue and so on, or else the "le bethesda makes thE BEST GAMES xDD" audience will go fucking nuts.
I fucking hate this whole industry.

>>691300802
I think Fallout 4 really brings alot with the new features and I enjoy all the DLCs, although I think FO3 has better quest. Nv is at the bottom, it had the worst story in my opinion and alot of empty places

>>691305266
Found one of them.
>>691305626
Probably dumped 700 hours into Skyrim.

>>691305742
>found one of them
Yeah, you wish

>>691302387
Kek, dumb fuck lessbox fanboi

>>691304138
>Bethesda just lied.
No they didn't.

Why are you people so dumb?

They said on your two of them would be large expansions in the season pass. Far Harbor is out and Nuka-World is coming later.

If you were expecting The Shivering Isles you're retarded. Skyrim should have told you what to expect.

>>691306926
>lessbox
>has more
>has mods
>ps4 can't handle mods

Lmao

>>691300802
I'm glad I didn't buy the season pass.
It feels like Bethesda has already forgotten the harsh lesson they learned from the backlash around the horse armor dlc in oblivion. They're right back to screwing their customers over, selling them shit that took so little effort to whip up on their part, that it should be free. It's fucking insulting that this is the kinda thing that Bethesda defaults to when they aren't actively suffering a PR shitstorm because of it.

>>691300802
Ewww, if you like new Vegas more than 4 just kill yourself. New Vegas was a boring pile of shit.

>>691307369
On another topic, what does Bill Gates' cock taste like?

I started out with max charisma and max luck.

i hate the dog.

>>691302220
If anyone wants to play an open world fps, that's what Farcry is for.

>>691307369
>Has more bugs
>Has 2g of mods lel
>Can barely handle Netflix, let alone fallout 4

>>691301915
Lol, you fuckers just haven't played. Met the family running the dugout Inn in diamond city? Those are some characters. Met the Cabot patriarch or the drug-addled Irish woman from the battle zone? This game has enough complexity and interesting characters/encounters to rival fallout 3. You fags are probably playing on anything but survival and fast traveling past anything interesting.

>>691307369
How is that bricked cuckbox treating you?
How does it feel to know that your mods shit on your shitty console?

>>691304952
>>691304748
This right here.
There are charisma checks. That's it. At least in dialogue. I think there might be some perception checks hidden somewhere with inanimate objects. But the vast majority of all skill checks in the game that change how you interact with people/the world are charisma checks.

>>691308235
Noone here plays ladykiller I guess. Ignorant cucks

>>691303016
Say that to survival faggot and not on normal and see what happens

>>691300802
I absolutely love Fallout 4. Going out collecting and bringing back to a home base is my way of playing fallout.
I also loved F3 and was disappointed in NV

>>691308518
This nigga gets it. Been playing survival for weeks, hardly explored 1/4 of the wasteland

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>>691303563
one thing that really bothered me is the fact that all the unique weapons are just named versions of the special weapons you can find on legendary enemies. I found a named laser rifle with a bottomless clip in a bank vault or something that I though was pretty cool and then my friend found the exact same gun on a legendary super mutant. Same stats and everything just no name. Just made it seem kind of pointless to me

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>>691308545
Hangmans alley reporting in!
Raiders and gunners fear the neighborhood sniper

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>>691300802
I still miss the advanced Genitals Addon

>>691303789
It's incredible compared to the old ones. And you don't just make the best if you don't run a builder. I buy and take mods off enemy guns. More rewarding, less skill points wasted.

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Bethesda is just doing the same thing almost every other company is doing. Making a game that will sell the highest number of copies rather than making a good game and trusting that people will recognize it. This is why skyrim and fallout 4 were both shadows of previous titles and so simple that a 5 year old could play it. Its a sad truth of the industry that the largest part of the consumers only wants games that don't make them think and are easy to pick up and complete without struggling at all. DLC and brain dead games like CoD have ruined gaming

>>691309348
Except the cryolator... And just to let you know there are specific legendaries that are only to be found in one place. Like the smg cricket sells with explosive rounds. Just because they don't have special looks doesn't mean they aren't great. You're part of the reason game developers spend longer making things pretty than actually making a coherent game.

>>691310589
Somebody only plays on normal difficulties. Wouldn't be saying that if you cranked it to max each time, ya pleb.

>>691310794
its got nothing to do with special looks, its about unique weapons actually being unique and not random spawn. I guarantee you can find an smg with explosive round on a legendary enemy that is exactly the same she sells. The cryolator is a one that you can't and the broadsider is another one I can think of but thats all I can think of. I don't give the slightest fuck about a pretty game, most of my favorite games are old and look like total crap compared to modern stuff. Id much rather have a very ugly game that is super fun than a beautiful game that is boring

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>>691310589
So obviously then, if Bethesda is shit now, then someone should easily be able to swoop in and make those Bethesda bucks.

Yet for some reason...the only people making Bethesda bucks is Bethesda...its almost like they offer an experience no one else does.

And I think Skyrim and Fallout 4 both sold gangbusters. So you are just factually wrong.