>>691281190
gun control is proven to not work.

>>691281285
really ?
where are you facts and statistics for this claim?

because countries with gun control don't have the ridicolus murderrate the usa has

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>>691281190
I keep my guns locked in a safe so the don't escape and shoot someone.
Also, let's have a referendum on removing your 1st amendment right to shitpost while we're at it

>>691281627
Honduras... Extremely strict gun control, one of the highest homicide rates in the world.

>>691281627
harvard, read you nigger: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

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>>691281643
Oh wait, nevermind...OP's not a US citizen

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>>691281627
Maybe there's a lower gun rate but usually the case is violent crime rises. And guns still manage to stay around, cause you know, criminals don't fucking care about laws. *cough* Paris *cough*

>>691281627
Doesn't Brazil have the highest murder rate per capita? And it has very strict gun control. I also heard that they were going to try a laxer policy to see how that works.

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>>691281190
OP, kindly fuck off and take your tears with you

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>>691281190
It's a constitutional republic

>>691281190
This is evidence of a perfect democracy. The actual majority of US citizens don't want more shitty gun laws, it gets voted against, the minority cries their eyes out on camera and plot again until another "massacre" happens.

>>691281190
We can but new/more gun legislation is less favorable than the media and politicians make it out to be. Additionally the proposed laws are actually fucking retarded if you bother to get into the details. Hence the reason all 4 measures were shut down.

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OP, did you finally realize you are a faggot

>>691281190
They can. It's call a "Constituional Amendment"

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>>691281190
Yes, just like how the US people were in favor of the Patriot Act after 9/11 we should impose strict gun control in the wake of the Orland shooting. We need to be a global community with no privacy and limited means of uprising against the government.

>>691282388

You have it the other way around. Most people do want gun control and don't give a fuck. It's the diehard second amendment conspiracy theorists stopping it.

>>691281190
Why can't you stop being a giant pussy, OP?

>>691282388
except you'd never be able to prove that without a referendum because senators generally vote along party lines and voters don't

>>691283312
False. You are just a retard. Is it so hard to believe that their are people out their who blame the individual for their actions rather than the inanimate object and the availability of said object?

>>691281190
We're not a democracy.

We are a Constitutionally Representative Republic.

Besides the Second Amendment allows you to not only defend yourself and your family it grantees your other rights under the Constitution. Ones you start removing core rights other rights like say the First or the Fourth will shortly follow there after.

Look on some college campuses and their wanting to remove "hate speech" and so called "safe zones" That is an infringement of your First Amendment rights and many would happily take that from you if you even dare to disagree with them.

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>>691283312
Fuck off you European socialist faggot

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>>691281190
Imagine if 6 million jews had AR15's 75-80 years ago. Bitch.
There's a reason for 2A

>>691281190
Sorry if you arent a fan, but owning firearms is a fundamental right of the american people.

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>>691281190
to be specific it's a pseudo republic that actually operates off oligarchy principles

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>>691285007
007 truth

>>691284793
This is the stupidest argument, why do people employ it? First off, the AR15 didn't exist back then so why don't the Jews just use their awesome time travel powers to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby?

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>>691285067
Srsly

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>>691285227

Is second amendment right, faggot. Go back to cambodia

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America's going left, politically.

The 2nd Amendment will be repealed, or amended, within 15 years.

Guns WILL be banned. And they will be confiscated. Americans lost their right to own guns when tyranny came - and their cowardice prevented them from picking up their arms.

Well-regulated militias? No. lol and The People don't consistute a WELL REGULATED militia.

>>691285591
>And they will be confiscated
moldy labia

>>691285591
Not understanding well regulated or militia in the proper context and terms.

This old trope....

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>>691285591
A well regulated militia constutes being called to arms, and led, by the governor or sheriff in most circumstances. The citizens must be armed and ready for this call

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>>691281190
mfw when I read
> gum control

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>>691286938
>waiting to be 'called to arms' by the govt
>to fight the govt
>a govt that could decimate the people
>with only a tiny fraction of the people revolting

tyranny's here, son. it's been here. and you were too much of a coward to pick up your arms, and protect The People.

You lost your right to own guns. Men like me will be taking them soon. From your "cold, dead hands" if need be.

>>691287263
what the fuck whta animal is that hahahahahha

>>691281190
Canada here.
>own rifles, shotguns, and handguns
>all legal
>many, many friends own guns too
>can buy guns in stores after taking a piddly 1.5 day course
>no registry for 99% of long guns and shotguns
>barely any huge shooting issues
>99% of shootings are inner city blacks who are using guns that were illegally smuggled in inside of afros
>gun control only punishes the well-behaved gun owners

>>691281190
There's one every 4 years. It's called an election. Troub is Amerifags love their guns more than their children.

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>>691287329
Fair enough.

>>691285007
If you base fundamental US rights off of the constitution with the idea that they cannot change, how come I can't have Slaves?

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>>691281190
>Thinks the US is a democracy, and not a federal republic.

>>691281772
Because Honduras is a shithole, thanks to the US.

Bad example faggot.

>>691281643
Tough shit. We're sick of school shootings and massacres because faggots like you want to treat guns like some toy or status symbol.

The dangerous shit needs to be banned. Deal with it. We'll let you have handguns and shotguns for hunting. That's it.

>>691287367
it looks like a bird, friendo

>>691287367
I'm no zoologist, but i believe that's called a bird

>>691287989

You must have forgotten that the people are also footing the bill.

All government is driven by and large by popular vote, so yes. We are a democracy, and the people could vote to limit or ban weapons, absolutely.

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>>691288327
BINGO

You >>691281643(YOU) gun nuts attacked a PRE SCHOOL. You killed CHILDREN. Guns are done.

>>691281190
At their center, all western democracies with any relevance are fascist military entities. It's been proven in Greece and Spain. The northern states are just more affluent and thus more content with their fairytale world.

If elite hierarchies were ever gravely threatened by mass revolts in the modern age they might take great damage but in the end the military has nukes and submarines. They'll take over, not armed gangs though they may ally with them. The only way forward is through centuries of reform. Cannabis f.x is nowhere near being legalized despite the drug war being an elephant in the room.

I would laugh at all the faggots who talk about cultural marxism(those who aren't trolls anyways) if all them red anarchists and other left radicals weren't even more retarded.

The US is a corrupt democracy. So, sometimes the people's voice is heard, sometimes it's not.

Something like 94% of americans think it's reasonable to perform a background check before selling somebody a gun.

Yet, the legislative branch does nothing because the conservatives are bought and paid for by the NRA.

So, you have half of the government trying to do what the people want and the other half making excuses based on fear and ignorance because they care more about their own money and power than the people who they were elected to represent.

>>691288500
And then that law would be promptly overturned as unconstitutional... So yeah have fun with that.

>>691288705
sort of right, but statistics are BS
where did you collect your sample from? faggot

>>691287708
Good point. So, since you acknowledge that the Constitution is a living document that needs to change with the times, then you need to recognize that the definition of the weapons that the founding fathers had in mind needs to change with it. The framers may not have imagined assault weapons when they wrote the 2nd amendment, but I'm also sure that they didn't foresee the bloated welfare state that the gov't has become.

>>691288854
>gun referendum
>would be overturned

No it wouldn't.

The 2nd Amendment is obsolete because our standing army took the place of "militias." The people can defend this country by joining the military.

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>>691288327
oh please. i don't need guns to murder preschoolers; I just like the way it splatters their brains all over the walls. it's like my own personal jackson pollock

>>691288500
*Representative Democracy

>>691288915
>durr I don't believe facts because they disagree with muh narrative

>>691281190
Because you would lose that referendum

>>691287989
*Representative Democracy

>>691281190
>referendum
Because it's not the general populace that wants gun control. It's only a portion. The other portion likes seeing their children get gunned down by people legally obtaining guns or illegally obtaining guns from people who shouldn't have been able to obtaine them legally

gun control wont work in america as you've already had guns forever. cant put the genie back in the bottle.

>>691288998
Doesn't matter.

Anon is trying to make it look like the People don't have the power to decide the issues in this country. We elect those who will pass legislation we want. They are not appointed, the People vote for them.

>>691289034
>facts
Prove it fact-o
still waiting on your source of bullshit

>>691289187
Fuck you faggot. 94% fucking percent of the country wants that shit.

Not going to re-invent the fucking wheel with you because you can't keep up with current events.

>>691287708
Where in the Constitution does it say i have a right to slaves?

>>691289184
you're implying that your vote matters past local elections
maybe state
are you personally counting the votes?
how do you know your vote is actually counted?
this country has become too large to ensure that everything is done fairly and legitimately

>>691289323
okay, just admit that you're pulling shit out of your ass

>>691289421
So because you suffer from paranoia the People's vote doesn't elect Presidents and Congress?

k

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>>691289149
England's had guns faaaaar longer than the US. their gun ban worked. So did 'straya's. In fact, America's a new nation, comparably. Europe's had guns longer than murca. And they don't have 10's of thousands of gun deaths each year.

Guns will be controlled. And then they will be banned. Americans can't be trusted with their guns any longer. The 2nd amendment will be repealed or amended.

>>691288705
actually there are background checks like that guy in chicago that failed it and he was a news reporter

>>691289503
Admit that you aren't allowed to believe information that isn't approved on /pol/ first.

>>691287329
>implying a third of your company won't just go awol
>implying another third wont "search" houses for guns, then declare them clear
>implying the last third won't frag you if you provoke a standoff.


Armed confiscation has already lost. Go police call the parking lot, friday release formation isn't until 1600 today

>>691289323
https://www.gunowners.org/04052013congress.htm

>>691289579
>guns will be banned
Not as long as we have a powerful gun lobby and conservatives controlling Congress.

>>691289571
the popular vote has been ignored many times There was supposed election fraud THIS ELECTION. California, Bernie was supposed to win. Not that I give a shit about that fucking pinko commie bastard.

>>691281627
Chicago has some of the highest gun control in the U.S. and has one of the highest murder rates in the U.S. Don't compare other countries to the U.S. because the environments are much different.

example: niggers

>>691289727
>the NRA is super bad guize
Get outta here amy schumer

>>691289722
Oh look you found some right-wing blog that agrees with you

>>691289579
>number of shootings by country.
>shows percentages instead.
Seems like a suspiciously made up graph...

>>691286080
>moldy labia
I laughed out loud

If you didn't catch it, that was a bastardization of "molon labe" or "come and take them". Famous standoff between a small Greek city and the Persian army, where the army sent a messenger to tell the town "give up your weapons and we won't kill everyone" or something to that affect. The Greeks replied "come and take them".

>>691289834
the NRA is dogshit
suck it faggot

>>691289635
Gun control more generally, though, has seen declining support recently. In a Pew Research poll in July, 85 percent of Americans favored background checks on all private gun sales and gun show sales – a step further than the president is set to propose your still wrong

>>691288327

SHALL

>>691289775
And once the case goes through we will find the truth, until than...speculation

>>691289635
don't visit that shit hole. I can think for myself. Just cite your source and we're done here, man. Quit dodging it

>>691281190
its a republic not a democracy; the majority has to follow the supreme rule of law our ancestors agreed to: the constitution

>>691288509

0/10

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>>691289944
NOT

Its a representative republic not a democracy actually. also that really would be begging for civil war two: electric boogaloo

>>691289944
Join the Army, faggot. No infringement. They issue you a killing machine.

>>691289843
>implying the 92% stat is totes true
Read it faggot, read it and see how the media pushes anti gun bullshit

>>691284473
American_foreign_policy.gif

>>691289882
Why?

>>691281772
Because the police in Honduras are practically powerless. That's not a gun control failure, it's a failure of the state

>>691288705

> muh evil NRA

into the trash it goes.

>>691289952
You'll only hear about it when we catch it. Assuming it doesn't occur on at least some scale beyond your scope is foolish

>>691281190
would be nice to have just to shut the anti-gun nutters up for once and for all

>>691289959
You're the one dodging it. You simply can't believe there is that much support for gun control.

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Everytime I fire a round down range, the kick of the recoil, the smell of the smoke, the sound of the shot. They all make me hard as a rock. But you know what's better? Knowing that anti-gun liberals are losing their shit day in and day out over this.

Nothin gets my dick harder.
>pic sorta related, mfw

>>691288984

> literally doesn't understand how the constitution works

how's 8th grade going?

>>691290117
>not a gun control failure
>its a state failure
Isnt that like saying im not sick, my nose is?

>>691290073
>the media
let me guess: Jews, right?

>>691289727
Con-trolling
Conservatives, trolling. It all makes sense!!!

>>691290065
Am in army. I want him to buy and own a hi capacity babby killan 'salt wepaon. America.

Knee jerk reactions never produce good results.

>>691289034

its not our job to disprove the figures you pulled out your ass, kid.

>>691290200
its actaully 84% and i will source my findings

>>691290160
Sure voter fruad and suppression can happen, but i feel ol bernstein is just being sore

>>691290219
The ACLU--a conservative organization--agrees with me.

And the Supreme Court would have ruled in my favor if Republicans hadn't stacked them full of gunfags.

>>691290200
I can't believe your unsubstantiated claim. Correct.

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>>691289727
kek. the NRA will fall. and conservatives are losing credibility, rapidly. the GOP is done.

You can expect another Democratic supermajority after Hillary wins in 2016. Congress and the senate will have Democratic majorities.

Donald trump? really? lol you idiots destroyed your own party, and lost this election - due in sole part to stupidity.

>>691289126

> muh chilluns

nice argument there, friend. cars are really scary too, I think we should ban them as well.

>>691290331
84% is good enough. There is strong support for gun control. Stop pretending everyone agrees with your outdated Colonial Era mindset.

>>691290238
No? Seriously man, read the article, it shows links to other studies and finds it is close to about 40%

>>691281190
It's a republic you twat
>what's the difference?
There's a huge difference

>>691289579

who is going to take them? limp-wristed faggots like you?

>>691290426
>shilling this hard

Come on anon, let's try a little bit better eh?

>>691290452
Of course some right wing blog is going to cherrypick numbers to make their obtuse position seem mainstream. Duh.

>>691281190
the first thing a dictator does is take the arms of the people so he can't be overtrown, think again on which side you are on OP

>>691285227
The ONLY way to protect other citizens is to arm themselves. Guarantee the Orlando shooting wouldn't have happened if someone was concealed carrying. Everyone needs a gun, it's an American right.

>>691290346
probs
not like he would've won anyways. Anyone who paid attention in history, or older than 30 could tell you he's going to bring about soviet-bloc-era depression on our middle and lower classes. Upper will just dip.

>>691290331
According to cnn. I read that source. It was an online poll at the bottom of an op ed emotional fluff piece.

Question was framed as somethkng along the lines of "do you think the government should do something to strengthen background checks on assault weapons? Y/n?"

PROTIP: the folks who answered no know that the existing background check is already awesome.

>>691284473

What show is that GIF from?

>>691290451
i am not this guy>>691290378
however what you are saying is to get rid of guns completely because we already have back ground checks that guy in chicago failed one and he was a reporter

>>691281190
Don't worry OP, when you get to highschool they should teach you why.

I believe the 15th Amendment is antiquated, outdated and must to be abolished.

>>691290544
that's your job, right?

>>691290451
you don't even know who you're talking to. You upset, anon?

>>691290544
And some left wing news source didnt cherry pick the 92%

>>691290615
actually i got that one from abc news

>>691290426

0/10

>>691290569
yes, because surely the people can fight against the national guard, the military police and the army

>>691290651
Had to look it up, thank you for enlightening us

>>691290569
so don't elect dictators.

Protip: Trump would turn into one despite his supposed 2nd Amendment loyalty.

>>691290209
kek

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>be me
>Shooting shitbwith my ar15 assault shotgun
>Go to local gym because Chad is there
>Shoot all the Chads while they're lifting
>Mfw I'm an active shooter

>>691290580
orlando victim's parents are already saying the bouncers should've been armed.

funny how people can be anti-gun advocates until something actually happens to them or their families.

its almost as if facts and reality beat feelie weelies everytime

>>691290655
No faggot. Either post an unbiased source like AP/Reuters or STFU. Nobody wants to jizz all over your stupid biased gunhumping blog.

>>691290655


REKT
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>>691290958
You mean one parent possibly said that and it's more like what you believe.

Say it.

>>691290037
/b/E

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>>691290540
>per million people
>not per capita
>murca has 300 million people

per capita, you'd lose your argument. so would the nra, fox news, Donald trump, and all gun-loving faggot pederasts.

>>691290991
Where is your unbiased source, the one you have still failed to present?

The left claims rounding up 11 million illegals for deportation is a logistical nightmare.
>Thinks rounding up 300 million + firearms iwill be a walk in the park

Good luck with that faggots

>>691288984
the second amendment helped deter a main land invasion on the US...something about there being a rifle behind every blade of grass.. :)

>>691290819

> police are evil and raciss
> military are baby killing rednecks
> lol but they would totally be on our side if we came to take your guns!

>>691291066
say what? what you want me to say because you can't handle real life?

>>691290991
>unbiased
>Reuters
Pick one nigger

>>691290804
>Source: 1979

epic faggotry

>>691281190
is it not a democracy or is it a dictatorship?

It's just not a civilized country OP ?