>>691255092
Shrooms, more natural high, gives you emotional pleasure, not just visible.

>>691255092
Haven't done shrooms yet, but LSD is fucking beautiful.

>>691255353
Can you maybe explain whats its like? Thinking about doing it soon.

>>691255202
I agree with anon. It's a cleaner feeling. Personally it doesn't really give me the jitters like acid. I'm a little more creative while tripping shrooms. But don't get me wrong, acid is very fun.

>>691255092
never been able to find shrooms, would love to though

LSD.

Both can be very "heavy", but you have more control with LSD. The rollercoaster is more controllable.

On mushrooms, you're the car.
On LSD, you're the driver.

I hate being social on both of the drugs... I can't talk to people, and I don't care what they say,because I can't understand what they are trying to communicate.

I also get quite nauseus(?) on mushrooms. Once I was going to sleep after a mushroom trip, and it still had some effect (not much) and I woke up watching my life backwards, while puking as hell. A "near death" experience, in some sort.

>>691255467
Everything is just so delightful to look at. I just felt happy and I was smiling so much. Day time is such a nice sight especially when you're out and about. Nighttime is also wicked because I could hear things is a way that was so different, plus the sky looks so nice especially with the clouds and moon coming through.

>>691255887
Whoa dude. It seems like psychedelics are not for you. Both lsd and shrooms are very good to socialize with. I mean everyone is different but socializing on psychedelics is a pretty big part of tripping.

any experiences with amanita?

I can't afford any normal halucinant so I just overdose with coffee
For me 5 large cups of coffee under 4 hours was enough to start the halucinations

Did it 7 times since the year began and only puked once

>>691256336
the first time i did amanita i tripped HARD. for an hour or better my gf played with my limp dick as i asked her if she called the ambulance over and over. as memory kept relapsing on itself.
after a while i found myself with one shoe off in my sisters bf's front seat heading home. rough trip bro

that said i did amanitas at least eight times after and loved the dissasosiative experience.

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high does shrooms blows you the FUCK away, but lsd is so much more enjoyable.

>>691256458
How can I do this

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The Samsung Gear VR and shrooms go together very well.

>>691255092
I've never done either, but my dream is to someday rent a cabin in Alaska in the middle of winter, take a ton of LSD, then wander out into the snowy night to eventually freeze to death.

>>691256458
wtf? this works?

Lsd always gave me a harmonious feeling. Shrooms made me see demons and shit

>>691255092
Well I usually like to trip hard
>acid usually 400ugs+
>shrooms usually 4grams+
If you want to go places then defeinitely take acid but keep in mind it forces you into uncomfortable places at times.
Shrooms are much easier to handle (not nausea wise. The first 1-2 hours is hell) but after you feel so amazing. Definitely mushrooms are my favorite because it's almost impossible to have a bad trip on them.

Didn't do lsd but shrooms are fucking nice, had realy nice distorted visuals and so on

Ketamine is god tier

>>691255921

It is definetly for me. But what people use it for, is definetly individual.

I use it to enjoy my senses, not interracting with humans. Music, nature, and exploring my own conciousness. I am very deep in my own mind, when tripping.

For socializing, I use MDMA. Used speed a lot too, but I quit that shit after psychosis.

LSD is my choice. It puts you in the driver's seat of the trip. Mushrooms take you on a trip. Although mushies feel more natural, it's mostly a teacher.

>>691256646
Well you just have to drink a load of coffee
I'm prettyy light so you might need more than 5 cups but in general it works

Just make sure you eat something between the cups (a toast, a hotdog, ramen noodles, anything)

Halucinations are fairly vivid, I didn't experienced any sound effects

>>691256557
similar story /b/ro
i once bought amanita off the internet thinking it wasnt "as bad" as your typical "shrooms".
i had a horrible trip. but once i dosed it right it was very enjoyable.
>know your dose /b/ro

Been hunting P.Subs for 6 years, season just started again. Usually find a few kilos each season, freeze dry them or preserve them in honey.

Makes my trips so much more enjoyable.

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>>691256944
This.
Mushrooms teach you
LSD makes you learn

>>691255092
overall if cannabis is 10

lsd would be a 4
shrooms would be a 3

anything non soft drugs would be zero

>>691256965
This gunna be gud

>>691256687
Yes, it works
You just have to space out the dosing of coffee and watch out not to throw up and you are good to go

Shrooms by a mile, but mescaline is my all time fave.
I'm a really speedy person by nature and LSD makes me waaaay too amped up and it doesn't give me a very "moving" trip compared to mushrooms or mescaline. And it lasts way too long, any time I drop acid I'm high for like 14 hours, I can never settle down or relax. Even when I've gotten verified good shit that other people responded well to, I ended up feeling straight up cracked out as fuck, I hate it. Never want to do LSD again simply because it sucks ass.
Shroomz4lyf

if you take in cannabis' over (industrial etc) uses it would be a 10, rest would be a 1

>>691255092
If I had to describe each, I'd say shrooms feel similar to being stoned only x1000. Everything is hilarious and your face feels completely numb.

LSD on the other hand feels like you are dreaming. Every thought and emotion is greatly magnified

>>691257186
How long does it last?

>>691257319
Dude you're a fucking moron if you actually believe you can trip from coffee. If you drink a shit ton of coffee really fast you will just feel cracked out, sick as hell, and will be blasting liquid shit out of your ass with the fury of a thousand suns. Don't believe me? Try it

Any of you fags Calvin Klein? Coke+K is legendary

>>691256987
>buying regulated drugs off the surface web
keksimous maximous

>>691257319
shromms 3.5 g had me trippin colors and shit for like 4 hours but after that the whole evening was a little trppy an felt surreal and it was away when i woke up the next morning

>>691257319
It ranges for me
Shortest that it lasted was 15 minutes (when I threw up)
Longest that it lasted was about cca 3 hours

>>691257637
Why not just take a bunch of caffeine pills.

>>691257637
I'm going to make around 7 cups later and boil it down into 1 for a quick dose

Best shroom trip I ever had was from eating 10-11 grams (yes, dried grams) with syrian rue tea. It was damn near as powerful as a hefty cup of good ayahuasca and was a profoundly memorable and beautiful experience

>>691257710
>making the heart race when its already racing off psychedelics
you what bro?

>>691257804
Literally just buy pure caffein and mainline it or else you're a cuck

>>691257710
They aren't exactly available where I live
Closest store that offers them is 50 miles away from me
You could use them instead although I never tried, maybe when they become more optional

>>691257710
Why not take an actual stimulant if you're gonna eat a handful of caffeine pills like an autistic 13 year old? Some of you cretins are fucking hopeless

>>691257899
Caffein is in a lot of thizz pills

>>691256752
>Definitely mushrooms are my favorite because it's almost impossible to have a bad trip on them.

I can confirm that this is untrue for some people. After a few very pleasant experiences with mushrooms and LSD in highschool, I've recently been taking alot of shrooms again. Out of 5 trips, 4 have been a living hell. I'm a depressed, anxious, self-loathing hiki shut in, and the shrooms just amplify that by literally 50x.

I keep taking them hoping It'll be a fun, amazing experience like it used to be, that I'll be able to control it, but I'll end up rolling around on the floor in agony, pacing around the house gasping and panting like a caged animal, running to the bathroom to puke. Every second is a nearly unbearable torment.

If you're going to take shrooms, to the lemon tek. Dice the mushrooms finely, mix with lemon juice and tepid water. Let sit for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally, and then filter out those diced mushrooms before downing the water. This will help with the nausea.

Mushrooms kick your entire mind into hyper overdrive (hence the gasping/panting, and the complete inability to calm down or relieve the stress and anxiety). So it is DEFINITELY worth the additional effort to get some barbituates, like xanax, to take if the trip goes bad. It'll settle your mind and nervous system down, and kill the trip. If nothing else, have some liquor on hand. Take a couple pills or a couple shots; don't panic and take so many downers you put yourself in the hospital.

>>691257899
I want to die, apparently.
How many shrooms do I need to eat so I die?

>>691257804
You do know that overheating destroys the caffeine

>>691257964
That's what I'm saying. I've had my best trips while candy flipping

>>691256458
A dumbass ex girlfriend took 2000mg of caffeine once. About 20 or so no-doz tablets.
I can tell you now she certainly didnt trip out.
Try brutal nausea and vomiting, blackouts and you can guarentee a trip to the hospital for stomack pumping and IV drip maybe a couple nights stay depending how well you go.
Can do some damage to your heart liver and kidneys as well from what i know.

>>691257979
what pills?
pills you're already taking in conjunction with psychedelics?
there's your problem /b/ro

>>691258019
>implying overdosing on psilocybin mushrooms has ever happened or is even physically possible

>>691258089
You know what's up. I once saw a girl chug 8 monsters and started shaking uncontrollably while throwing up and asking where her mom is.

>>691258129
I can try anon, I can try.
Either I'll die, or when I'm back to normal I'll have been enlightened and won't want to die anymore.
It's a win-win.
So how much do I eat and where do I even get them.

>>691258016
Also, never take shrooms on consecutive days. Your body needs to clear that shit before you redose. Give it at least a week, preferably a month.

>>691258129
You're more likely going to bust through a window and cut an artery than overdose. Though, shrooms are technically a poison

>>691258129
>implying a guy never had fifteen hits of acid in his shirt pocket and went out in the rain only to have it soak into his skin and for him to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital thinking he was an glass of orange juice.
you what nigga?

>>691258089
Whoa mate
I drink only 5 cups
Check on the internet if you don't beleive me but in 1 cup there is aprox only 150 mg caffeine
I drink those 5 cups (750 mg of caffeine) spaced out in 4 hours, not all at once

>>691258250
Don't know if trolling or completely fucking retarded beyond all hope

>>691255887
hmm anytime i've tried to be "in control" is when shit goes bad for me. i find it best to focus on letting go for the most fun. and try to only do it with people you are super comfortable around then socialising wont be so much of an effort.

>>691258343
Probably door #2
Just really drunk anon, but it brings out the tard in me

>>691258334
kek'd m8

>>691256124
Maybe if you're an extroverted retard.

Does anyone have any experience with Lsa?

>>691258433
i like this guy

>>691258354
Really depends on the source and your surroundings. If you get fluff and are completely set up at home, you'll have a better time than the kid at a festie who's puddled on some hells angel shit

>>691258214
>asking where her mom is.

Did an internship at a hospital once. Saw grown adults be brought in on stretchers, fresh from car wrecks, with appendages missing and holes through their body. They did the same thing: talking to / looking for their parents. When my grandfather was in states of delirium before dying, he also started talking to his dad.

>>691258330
Shrooms are not technically a poison you mongoloid, that's an old urban legend
They are literally nontoxic. Psilocybin works by fitting in your seratonin receptors temporarily and has no neurotoxicity. Educate yourself and read actual scientific studies instead of passing around pseudo-science propaganda from the 60s

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I'll share my shroom and acid experience with ya'll
3 of us ate 5gram shrooms but the dealer told us it wasn't that strong kind of, but what I saw was the bush tried to get around me, and since we were on a mountain the whole city lookd like a ship on the sea which slowly floating away.

I took half of an lsd since I shared the other half with my friend, and what I experienced was that I couldnt connect the scenes, like I couldn't find the gap between 2 conversations, and I only saw shapes and colours when I closed my eye, but it was a really good trip, a minute didn't pass by without laughing because of the people around.

>>691258494
I mean, it is summer so I expect some 14 year olds will reply

>>691258495
I like you too, in another life we'll be friends I think

>>691258531
>tfw
>have no dad
>know death is going to be horrible

>>691258538
Woah cool it bro. But like I said, you're more likely going to hurt yourself on higher doses

>>691258016
Are you sure that wasn't just the first hour or two? Shit like that always happens to me when I'm digesting that sick shit. But after the suffering its the best feeling from any drug I've done.
>lets be honest, shrooms are better because you don't loop in time like on LSD

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I rank doing LSD as one of the top 3 best days of my life. Although I enjoy doing mushrooms I feel like you really lose your mind on mushrooms more than LSD. A word of warning LSD makes you not give a fuck about anything so be in a safe and chill spot.
Trips cat for trippy thread

>>691258531
feels bad man

>>691258588
i actually couldnt have friends if i tried.
you're kind though

Ketamine+Coke+4fa is best high

>>691255636
>>691255202
fuck this emotional shit.

>>691255887
>On mushrooms, you're the car.
>On LSD, you're the driver.

this guy gets it. However, he hasn't tripped enough to understand the ego death. Any experienced tripper has come to terms with the ego death, which is even more profound on acid.

Also mescaline. You are also the driver on mescaline.

>>691256124
No they're not good to socialize with. Maybe you haven't taken them enough around large crowds of unknown people enough to learn this. Socializing with friends maybe, but not strangers.

>>691258713
Why not? You can do anything, you are electric
Also thank you I think

>>691255092
I've had truffles a few times before but never LSD - though I really want to try some.

Personally I find truffles quite an inward experience. It's fun with a friend (especially when you're both just laughing uncontrollably for half an hour) but I kinda prefer being on my own for the trip. Communicating is kind of a chore and I just get stuck in my own thought loops.

>>691258644
Assuming you don't have some horrifically painful disease that kills you, I suspect at this point that actually dying is less traumatizing than a bad trip on psys.

If you want your death to be easy, there are five simple steps you can follow

1)Be an honest, hardworking person
2)Take care of yourself
3)Be there for your family
4)Be happy with what you have
5)Be interested in helping others

The monster of the unknown seems to go easy on people like that

>>691258494
I tried it on several occasions and never got a goddamn thing except a very mild head high (think 1 toke from a joint) and horrible, horrible nausea.
So I cant say how pure LSA is but I can tell you for a fact that Ipomoea violacea seeds are absolute shit and a waste of time and dignity

>>691258577
I don't understand.

>>691258755
Experiencing ego death is one of the most egotistical things you can do. To claim to see your self in a third person nonobjective viewpoint is so incredibly selfish and biased. Honestly. Everyone who claims this is a self centered butthole

>>691258755
I went through ego death after taking 1200ugs of LSD. Now I'm a nihilist.

>>691258817
>monster of the unknown.
>implying god or some "higher being"

>>691255092
I prefer a sex life

>>691256124
>hurr durr why aren't you like me, people can't be different
The post

>>691259026
Coke and pussy>lsd

>>691258786
>not understanding a self-oppressive view of life.
maybe anon.
when i was younger and life still held magic and majesty, we could have been friends.

>>691259026
lolwut

>>691255092
Shrooms are what I prefer, I find it's more of a happy high than lsd

>>691259117
Figured you wouldn't know what that is

>>691258824
That isn't pleasant to hear :( I'm sorry for the bad experiences. I plan on growing Ipomoea violacea to be able to harvest fresh seeds to try them out. I was planning on smoking cannabis and having ginger tea with it to subside the nausea. I have to be cautious though, morning glorys grow akin to weeds here and I don't want to fuck with the ecosystem.

>>691259077
Mescaline and pussy > everything else that could ever happen in the entire universe

>>691259176
Savage

>>691259206
>DMT

>>691258667
>Are you sure that wasn't just the first hour or two?

With the single nice trip I had, after being very nauseous for like 30 minutes, the feeling passed, and I had a good time. The extreme anxiety of the other trips was so bad that, while yes the comedown is alot softer, I'm still so traumatized by it that it's not an enjoyable experience, and there's still gnawing anxiety. Beyond that, I'll just be relieved that it's ending, and I'll be exhausted. I'll look like absolute hell too, like I've been up tweaking for three days. It beats the shit out of me and burns me out. I'm not going back to psys until I've gotten out of my parent's basement, have a job, and am taking care of responsibility.

>>691258016
this guy knows. I used to drink 4lokos on my shroom trips( the sugar and all of the weird shit they put in it before they got sued made the trip fucking awesome). The 4lokos really put you back in the drivers seat and allow you to enjoy the trip for the visuals. Go to a river with some CLOSE friends that you can absolutely trust. make sure you're a couple hours into the trip on approx. 2g right about sundown. the remaining sunlight reflecting off of the water during the summer time is one of the most beautiful things i've ever seen while tripping. That and my own death, but that was without 4lokos, and i smoked pot.

DON'T smoke pot while your'e tripping unless you've tripped 20+ times, increases chance of ego death by an incredible amount.

>>691258755
I actually did like to socialize with strangers on different psychs from time to time. Depends on the person I guess

>>691259206
mescaline + pussy?
story?

>>691258494
go for the hawaiian baby woodrose seeds take about 20, smoke a fat joint - you will trip mentally pretty hard if you take enough with visuals if you take a shitload

>>691259206
Enjoy your mescanalogs u frikn normie. Get back to me when you've come down and realized you've fucked your cat

>>691259200
Serious don't bother. I literally guarantee you will be sorry you tried it, there is no trip whatsoever even with supposedly huge doses, just a mild dreamy feeling and the worst nausea you can imagine. It's sub-shit tier

>>691259277
FUCKING SIIIICK

Acid.

It's way more crazy but you have more control. Shrooms do whatever the fuck they want.. but my favorite is dmt. Which I've recently acquired and I also got ten hits of acid earlier now that I remember lol. I plan to have a dmt breakthrough while peaking on the acid.

Ever since I took LSD weed has never been the same.
Every time I smoke weed I get fractal CEV:s and sometimes small OEV:s. I really want weed to be like it was when I started.

Being relaxed and able to just chill and eat stuff. Kinda fucks with me being on a semi-LSD trip every time I smoke so I pretty much stopped.

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>>691256654
this

>>691259302
This summerfag has been on erowid once

>>691259104
Don't really know what self-oppressive means, but doesn't sound too fun.
Maybe next time around, if you dig that ideal.

>>691258545
>half of an lsd

lol, I think I know what you mean but that just sounded funny.

half of a blotter?

>>691256336
I find it very similar to dxm, which I haven't done in over a decade. The amanita was a strange reminded. Either way, playing Siberian shaman isn't necessarily fun per say, but you will have an experience.

>>691259495
Or micro dosing

>>691255092
Don't need drugs when you can lucid dream for free every single night.

>>691259434
Anyone experiences this?

MXE is supeR triply when taken in high doses

>>691259464
bullshit. not even that guy but morning glory (heavenly blue) seeds can even produce an amazing trip. hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are morning glory seeds on crack. and they have strong LSA chemical compositions.
check your facts before you post nigger

>>691258902
shitty bait bro. Or you don't know what you're talking about

>>691258928
So now you think life is meaningless? that shit really enlightened me

>>691259283
>Depend on the person I guess

That makes sense man. I had a friend that would trip and go talk to strangers all the time, had tons of fun. But he was also pretty much fucking retarded, so maybe it's just an issue for deep thinkers.

Acid, mushies, and mdma aka jediflip is superior

>>691259262
Well of course you look like shit after tripping. Being insane for 8+ hours will take a heavy toll on the body and the mind. I always look like some sand nigger refugee when I'm done tripping

>>691258976
The human mind is not the be-all, end-all of the universe. There are things that exist that are greater than us: the cosmos, the universe, or whatever. This is probably the type of thing we encounter when we die.

Nobody goes to the other side with a chip on their shoulder and wins against "the cosmos/universe." People who want to carry ego with them to the other side are going to suffer immensely. I wouldn't say it's as bad as the biblical description of hell (an eternity of raping family members while being burned alive, ect ect), but god damn it it's got to be the closest thing to hell there is.

Being tortured by the illuminati > being an egotistical prick when you die > having a bad trip on psys >= having your leg blown off >= alcohol poisoning >= untimely death of a loved one > the spins

>>691259176
Daaaaaaamn. *Sszzsssst*

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>>691259382

here you go man. I don't remember if i referenced the river, but I referenced my ego death. Well, what I could remember of it after like 7 years.

>>691259696
Enlightenment comes in many forms for different people
I just realized to myself that there's no objective reason for anything.

>>691259783
Pretty much this. Once I tried siphoning gasoline from a motorcycle on L and once I came down I really was in a gross state. Don't siphon gas on acid

Lsd, all the way.

>>691259900
Dub dubs checked

>>691259828
didnt even have to read the rest of what you posted.
here
>this is probably the type of thing we encounter when we die
this is false
ive had near-death experiences
ive trippied hard on, psylliciben, amanita, dxm, lsa, even brugmansia
and there is no "afterlife encounter".
there is just the perceptions of what happens after and how beneficial we as our own persons perceive this to be.

>>691259696
Well, I guess. Me and this friend did truffles together in Amsterdam once, and I started laughing at strangers and having a great trip, while he got severe paranoia and wanted to go back to the appartement. I´m a deep thinker, too, so I´ve had times where I just wanted to sit alone and figure out wtf was happening. But, it can go both ways!

>>691259943
that seems pretty simple but it makes sense man, you can't understand anything objectively from a subject point of view. You need to read the first 2 books, maybe 3 if you like it; by Robert Monroe. I think you'd like them. Then if you can master what he does ou'd really understand subjectivity.

>>691256124
Hahahaha you don't know jack shit m8.

>>691259783
Yeah... What do you guys usually eat before you pass out? If you can manage to eat. I like pb and j

shrooms

>>691260216
I usually consume like 18 beers and end up pissing myself.

>>691259900
>brains aren't physically developed enough to handle psys until you're in your mid twenties. So the bad trips are more likely to happen, less able to be comprehended, and therefore easier to get out of control.

This is unclear. Are bad trips more likely when you're older? Because like I said, that has been my exact experience. I always had a good time on mushrooms when I was younger. I could even handle salvia without freaking out.

>>691260216
I get a huge triple meat whataburger then pass tf out for the next 2 days
>paradise

i have never done lsd but i plan to do it in the future, what will the effects be for a very small dose? For example 10ug

>>691260449
Micro dosing is great for studying

I've only done shrooms and it usually results in hilarity. one time my friends and I were sitting at a park and we couldn't stop laughing because we couldn't tell if our eyes were open or not (closed-eye hallucination). then my friend couldn't figure out why his sweat shirt was wet, turned out he was crying. then when I noticed it I started crying too. we couldn't stop fucking laughing during all of this.

>>691260449
I find that taking around 2000ug is a pretty low dose for LSD. Start from there and work your way up
>if you don't shoot yourself in the process

>>691260568
i might be a noob in psychedelics but i know what a normal dose of lsd is like

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>>691260720
:3

>>691259900
I actually smoked a joint half way through a trip once. It wasn't bad at all, I just felt more in a thought loop but also relaxed.
Granted I wasn't tripping super hard and it was like half a joint.

Real LSD, not the imitations marketed as LSD, can produce intense audio and visual hallucinations which can last for hours. SWIM tried hallucinogenic mushrooms on various occasions and did not experience any visual or audio hallucinations. It's preferable to avoid recreational use of these drugs as there's a small chance they can impair you're senses at random occasions.

>>691260514
maybe i could start with microdosing, i am afraid that a whole dose would be to powerful since even some good quality weed can fuck me up for some days mentally

>>691260720
So pretty much you want to take 4mg Xanax, bump a .5g line of blow, chug half a fifth of Hennessy, and inject half a g of K and it's like the same thing bro. Trust me I'm a non licensed pharmacist. I got you

>>691260875
>SWIM
wut?

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>>691256706
Same! Shrooms are scary, b.

>>691261035
Someone who I met

>>691260960
my gf is extremely sensitive with weed, but she can take at least as much lsd as i can. Meanwhile, i usually have to smoke at least two bowls to get fucked up. Might not be related

When I smoke weed it triggers my anxiety and panic attacks. It sucks fucking ass cause it feels like im having a heart attack. I have chest discomfort and adds to the feeling.
Is there any psychedelic that would not trigger it?
Ive done acid a couple times before but it was before the panic attacks

>>691261082
Domed half an oz of boomers once and lost all sense of dimension/reality while pissing myself and experiencing the Big Bang during CEV

>>691261181
Ketamine or MXE

>>691261082
I always say shrooms are for ppl who are strong minded (not that you aren't) but you have to be able to know what's going on. one person I know didn't wait for us and shroomed before hand. apparently she went to hell or something me shit. we ate from the same batch and I just plane tripped out.. nothing unusual.

>>691255092
Anyone here ever bought from TripWithScience? His shit is clean

>>691260311
more likely when you're younger because your brain can't process quick enough when your prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed (symbolic reasoning and such). Your case is likely due to the fact that when you were young you were used to a specific type of trip and as you aged you had too much expectation. trips are all about going with the flow.

>>691260874
the thought loop is the problem. one bad thought and it takes control. leading to other bad thoughts. coupled with increased possibility of short term memory issues you can forget that you were even tripping.

I would've done them (shrooms or lsd) a long time ago but I can't get my hands on them. I have no idea how to get them. Asked my weed dealer about it, but he didn't know anyone who would have them

>>691261314
I've had trips where when I looked into the trees, the branches spelled out the insecurities I was dealing with. Same with walls. For me, my trip manifest the shit I need to deal with and it helps me come to terms with what I'm going through. It's actually nice because it's stopped since I've accepted who I am

>>691255887
>>691256124
>>691258473
You guys are arguing over nothing.
Tripping with other people is fun, tripping and talking to sober people isn't

>>691261504
Try bringing it up with your more open-minded family. CASUALLY

>>691255092
OP pic is from PsychedSubstance
Much love.

>>691261582
this.. haven't done lsd yet but shrooming in groups is fun.

hey /b/, How much selfcontrol to you have under the influence of shrooms? Because I want to try them but I'm a little bit feared that I have to less control about myself and to stupid things. Also no tripsitter.

>>691259900
thanks for sharing brother, good read

>>691261582
>Tripping with other people is fun, tripping and talking to sober people isn't
I enjoy talking to sober folks while tripping.

You can't generalize psychedelics.

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>be me 22 years old
>take 1/3 tab of some kind of nbome
>decide to watch alice in wonderland
>i notice how the movie is a giant metaphor for life and how everything in the movie is connected or represents a commentary on society.
>stop watching cuz gets too weird and cant stop muh introspection
>go online to see whats up
>have news page as my home page and see a stomach bug has mutated to not respond to any medicines.
>remember how my professor didnt go into class the day before due to stomach bug
>"oh fuck is this the end of us all?"
>immediately start going over all kinds of end of the world scenarios in my head
>do i go straight for my gf?
>do i wake my family up at 3am to try and run to some remote hills in mexico?
>after about 20 minutes of believing humanity is ending i decide i shouldnt make decisions while tripping
>i tell myself im gonna wait until i wake up and then decide a plan of action
>rest of the trip i go on /b/ and talk to anons from all over the place about life / space / love
>sun is up, on the comedown
>decide to go to lake
>see some ducks in the lake and they swim over to me
>feel connected to the ducks.
>i am duck, duck is me. i am everything
>theyre just staring at me
>why are they here, do they know i am on some upper level consciousness right now?
>are these ducks trying to communicate with me?
>i take a walk and see some trash.
>humans are destroying this beautiful planet with all this beautiful life on it.
>i cry for like 20 minutes at how shitty people are and how we treat our homes and friends and families
>run home
>finally, after 8 hours of tripping, i crash the fuck out on my bed.

the next morning i look up the stomach bug and its just food poisoning that lasts about 3 days and goes away on its own and isnt even in my state.
realize ducks probably thought i had some bread to throw at them and where not trying to talk to me. feel appreciation for life and motivated as fuck for like 2 months after.

now im normalfag again.

>>691261540
That's why some people have ego deaths. they can't handle their own emotions and they don't understand that they got on the roller-coaster that doesn't have any stops. the only thing that can stop the ego death is acceptance of their own death (the most profound experience EVER) or the drug eearing off. It's usually the former, otherwise they're the type of person that is really fucked and they end up on shit like anti-depressants. I actually know a guy that ended up doing the latter just cuz he went home ALONE and watched one of those rob zombie movies (the one after house of 1000 corpses) and it really fucked him up. trip was wearing off just in time for the movie to be over or some shit from what I recall. I was only 14 when the story was told to me.

>>691261831
Thanks man. You're the first to say so. Even when I originally posted it.

>>691261848
i just did

>>691261796
depends.. do you have a pretty strong mind/will? if you know you're tripping you'll be fine. obviously we've all heard stories but if you know what's going on then yeah.

>>691261176
i hope so

>>691261181
weed is a vasodialatorr. your heart works a little extra to make up for drop in blood pressure. when you smoke weed you are much more conscious of your body and you will feel your heart palpitations. this commonly causes people to freak out cuz theyre heart is pumping fast.

I live in the Netherlands so I can buy as many truffles as I like in a coffeeshop (and off course I do). Shrooms have been banned but you can still legally buy a growkit, so I'm planning to grow some. Anyway my experience with truffles have been awesome overall. I do need to mention I have medication, concerta, and I believe when I take my medication it fights the effect of truffles.

Truffles are awesome but you don't want to sit at home all the time, from my experience I can say the best way to trip is to walk around (in a forest preferably). Also smoking weed while tripping on truffles strengthens the effect.

With truffles there is also nausea and vomiting, but this fully depends on the user. A friend of mine puked twice from truffles and he hates the taste of truffles, while I enjoy the taste and never felled like puking.

The control you have depends fully on the situation, I've been able to find a friend in a unknown city, install wireless extenders and fix internet problems while tripping. I wouldn't recommend this, but it is possible.

can i find peace from my life choices on drugs?

>>691261890
oh yea, i had no visuals the entire time.
it was all just a head trip.

>>691261796
They don't make you inclined to do or say things you wouldn't, unless you're already an idiot. Stupid people seem to have less control usually.

>>691262041
Tripping hard has shown me time and time again
>there is only peace in death

>>691255092
Was riding home from MacDonalds on my bike with my friend at 4 AM. We were peaking on 2 hits of acid. Nobody else was on the street, and I see this cruiser roll by at like 10 MPH on the other side of the road. Lights go on and speeds up, pops a Uie and pulls us over. We were suspected of being car hoppers in the area, but we had nothing on us and ultimately, nothing happened. As we went on our ways, I almost fell off my bike and I could hear the cops laughing. Didn't even have a bad trip.

>>691262041
>>691262041
peace comes from within. you wont get it from anything else in this world. just forgive yourself bruh, or let jesus forgive you mang. either one works.

>>691262214
lol i smoke weed on my porch and a cop parked in front of my house
i just got up and went inside and freaked the fuck out for like 20 minutes. then they left.
i cant imagine encountering a cop while tripping.

>>691261890
This made me laugh, thanks anon.

>after about 20 minutes of believing humanity is ending i decide i shouldnt make decisions while tripping

would've been a completely different story if you didn't realize you were tripping

>i cry for like 20 minutes at how shitty people are and how we treat our homes and friends and families
This is because psilocin (active chemical the body synthesizes form psylocybin) works on serotonergic receptors ( is mimics the serotonin molecule except for an extra oxygen ring IIRC). The imbalance can cause serotonin syndrome in extreme cases, leading to depression in some. Usually though, you just don't produce any serotonin for a few days (called the fog) and that's why you can be emotional. A lot like meth addicts, your brain won't produce a chemical when you're supplying it with something that acts on the respective receptors. This is why they get burnt out from doing too much dope, their brains think they never need to make dopamine ever again; that and high doses actually damage the receptor sites

>>691261928
incorrectly

>>691262028
I see, thank you. Thats good to know. They started happening out of nowhere when I would be dabbed out of my mind. Ever since then Ive been constantly aware of my heart beat and adds to my anxiety. So when high it becomes so much worse now.

>>691262384
>would've been a completely different story if you didn't realize you were tripping
lol i know. i had some experience with tripping. my first time really sucked until i called a friend and he told me the big secret. "dont try to control it bro, just go with it" after that it was really great.

>This is because psilocin
i didnt take shrooms. it was some kind of nbome.

>>691261890
nice story i enjoyed it

I love shrooms more, Its more emotional more visuals, only wish it lasted longer like lsd

Im suppost to be getting a QP of shrooms for 600$ (150 per oz)
and 5 strips of acid for 400. ( real lsd tested with a kid before, 50 hits)

I usually dont get too much visuals on LSD but shrooms is a totally new game. I usually trip very often to figure out more about myself and to see what I want in life. I am a psychonaut if you want to call me that

>>691262572
>i didnt take shrooms. it was some kind of nbome.

My bad anon, I'm drunk. I just did some really quick research. It also affects serotonin

>>691261955
I think that I have a strong mind but a little bit too feared because sometimes I even lose control with weed...I mean I'm little bit shy and when I hit the bong i'm soo much euphoric and free that I do things that I don't rly want to do.. hard to describe man

>>691262539
lol yeah feeling your heart pump is totally normal. while high. fuckin scary as fuck and causes you to panic if you let your thoughts run wild.
just remain cool, practice some breathing excercises. i used to panic attack every time i smoked but learned to ignore panicky thoughts by controlled breathing. now i can smoke however much i want.

breathing really really helps. its grounds me back into reality. stops negative thought loops ect..

>>691262657
that's a lot for shrooms bro. almost 20 bucks an 8th on the QP. I used to pay 25 an 8th straight up. if you're in an appliciable state to get a sporinge look up the BRF/perlite method and you can grow your own

>>691262711
yeah most psychedelics do affect serotonin.
i know what you are talking about, my first time tripping left me feeling emotionless and detached from reality for like 4 months.

REMEMBER TO BREATHE!

forever will your trips now be at least a little fucked up

>>691262028
is it the cause to my intense proprioception? when i smoke i feel my whole body as a biomechanical mechanism, i feel my intestines working when digesting, i feel my muscles contracting when i am moving, almost like it makes me realise that i am a machine programmed by the brain to do something, while when i am sober i don't pay attention to this

>>691262892
You just need to do some introspective meditation when it lasts that long. or drink a type of tea that acts on serotonin receptors.

I spent most of the late 90s and early 2000s spun off my ass and selling LSD, shrooms, molly, k, and shit like that. LSD vs shrooms was often talked about.

Everyone will have a differing opinion on whether LSD or shrooms is better or stronger or whatever. This is going to be based on whichever one they have gotten the most spun off of, or had the most fun on, or lost their shit harder on, or whatever.

Based on my numerous experiences with both, the trip is basically the same.

The difference is time. Shrooms tend to last about 6 hours. Acid has a long comedown. I remember many nights where I was still feeling it the next morning, 12 hours later.

>>691262657
>I think we're all psychonauts
I just test my acid with UV black light test. If it glows, it's real
Also 8$/hit for 50? That's a shit deal my friend I buy 50-100 hits for 4-5$/hit

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>>691262041
you can find peace with drugs, that doesn't mean you will.

a lot of psychedelics force the mind into a state of being in the present temporarily. normally monks have to spend their lives meditating to reach certain states available as a shortcut from taking drugs.

>>691262795
Will do, thanks for the advice. I used to smoke so much too lol

>>691262028
Sometimes when your heart decides not to make up for it, you start to blackout. SOme scary ass shit when you're tripping.

>>691262989
im just a normalfag on /b/ who enjoys smoking.
im not gonna pretend i know what im talking about lol. but id say probably man. weed makes you much more conscious about your body and surroundings. it doesnt seem farfetched to imagine your stomach digesting things or feel "mechanical" in a sense.

>>691263060
>tfw ive known about this for years and want to meditate to reach such states of mental perception
>tfw its too much work and drugs are easier
feels bad /b/ro

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Have you ever tried one of these ?

I'm a mushroom hunter and I find a lot of muscarias every year, but since they are not edible I pass them always.

Should I try it, what experiences did you have ?

>>691262989
That sir, is what you call tripping balls

Honest question.
How does Shrooms/LSD compare to DXM/weed?
I loved marijuana because it made me see beauty in the world, but I'm a singer and need to maintain my respitory health, not to mention my oral hygiene, which is laborious when you smoke or vape. Edibles are a bit expensive to make and they go quick. When my buddy showed me DXM...oh my lord. It was a single drug which could produce a menu of effects, depending on your dosage. It was much more powerful and easier to get than marijuana, but then I started combining the two...I felt like nothing could compare, even though the price I was paying with my body was extremely high. Also, dosing with both of them is EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING.

Anyway, my buddy gave me some black gooey lsd to eat one day...it was so small like a ladybugs head. But it brought me into an altered frame of mind full of love...just like pot and dxm. The visual aspects were different...there there were snakelike lines railroading off every edge I saw, and I was in touch with my animalistic desires ( but unlike DXM, where I feel like I am too smart for the world).

I only did the LSD once but I feel like it is a good substitute. I didn't need any pot, even though I did smoke eventually, but it was from a reflex bowl pass...

so yes, is it similar? you feel like an animal? or smart? what do you see? does your body hurt? is dosing annoying? I hear shrooms taste like shit. weed tastes kind of good, and lsd tastes like nothing.

>>691263026
lol one time i was so high, the concept of time was thrown out of the universe and i thought i'd never be sober again. after a while... about half hour later. i accepted the fact that being high on lsd would be the rest of my life and that's ok

>>691262997
i ended up taking a philosophy class in college because of this detachtment. during those few months i had an extreme "existential crisis"
not really about my place on earth, but more about what the actual fuck i findamentally was. and if everything was fake or real. it impacted many relationships i had.

i soon came to the conclusion that nothing really matters except love and whatever else i decide mattered to me.

during that time though i did experiment with meditation and what not. was very interesting.

>>691263268
they can be confused with a shroom with will kill you, no antidote. I hope you really know how to scout. if you pick your own you'd better have a good handbook. my uncle goes picking and he tests them on the neighborhood niggers first. not a fatality yet

>>691256987

go to forest and collect some four yourself

>>691263268
amanitas.
same thing i was asking about earlier that nobody picked up on.
they are simply dissassociatives. they make you disassociate.
and in my experience very pleasently so when you find your "just right" dose

>>691262384
>would've been a completely different story if you didn't realize you were tripping

How do you realize that you are tripping when you're mind is fucked to hell? Second time doing LSD (500ug, alone) and I nearly shot myself because I was convinced my actions had no consequence.

>>691263285
you cannot compare.
each substance is a brand new experience on its own.

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>>691262739
mmm.. I'm not the type of person that gets all hyped up. when I'm on molly or w/e I just sit there. it's more fun/challenging to keep it all inside(pic related). it's almost like taking the energy you see other people expending and trying your best to contain it. ANYWAY, I would find some me one to babysit you for the first time to be safe. I think you mentioned no sitter.. but I suggest you do once.

>>691262795
when i am high i always see if i can feel my heart pump just so i know everything is normal. but sometimes i can't feel it and i get nervous

>>691263165
the last time i smoked weed, which will probably be tha last time for some months, i felt like being no more than a animal experiencing reality with my senses, i began to feel like my senses are only a physical perception of my body and brain and the whone idea of consciousness and of a "me" began to fall, it was horrible, and for 2-3 days i felt like i was just a small useless animal compared with reality.

>>691262153
Alright that's a thing I wanted to know.. thank you m8

>>691263379
depends on how much you take homie. 500ug is a lot, so that's probably why. this is why not to smoke weed. if you had smoked weed you would've either been trippign in such a bad loop that you were having CEV's and couldn't get off the ground/bed or you'd be dead.

>>691263493
whole*

>>691263295
time is a funny thing aint it?
personally, i dont really think its real.
its just a concept devised by humans to describe "differences" between memories
like the difference between
"i have a house"
and
"my house is on fire"

but on the other hand im crazy as fuck and am miles down the rabbit hole with no way back.

>>691256458
Look into an energy drink called "rip it" it has the highest caffeine level I have seen in an energy drink, and has a non carbonated one for easy chugging. Mix with no sleep and some interesting lighting and it is like drinking absinthe.

>>691263449
this

>>691263512
>>691263379
I guess I didn't really answer your question. The best way to determine if you're tripping is to have an experienced sitter. Since you can't speak or read during deep trips then it an be hard to remember on your own. but usually (in my experience) it crosses your mind if you're going to do something stupid.

>>691259434
please?

fuck I wanna do shrooms now lol

>>691263364

I've been doing this for 4-5 years now. You have to scientifically know which mush is from which family, genus, and species. If you can't do it just leave that mushroom alone and find another.

And when it comes to learning phase, you begin to learn %70 of the most common mushrooms after collecting 2-3 times. But it is important to have someone reliable by your side first 1-2 times.

any experiences with green dragon?
how did you make it personally?
what were your effects?

>>691263493
>and for 2-3 days i felt like i was just a small useless animal compared with reality.
the thing is you are not wrong anon.
humans are completely insignificant in the grand scheme of things. but its your life anon! your feelings and emotions are all real at least to you! just because we are insignificant doesn't mean we cant have fun! pursue that happiness, even if it doesnt matter. you are the center of your universe. as long as you care then life is worth living.

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>>691263566
Aren't we all /b/rother
Aren't we all

>>691263719
just smoke weed dude. preparing that shit blows. nobody wahts to heat the weed up to just the rest temp to activate the THC to do that crap. if you wanna comsume it like that then make some brownies.

>>691259434
Friend of mine has always reacted like this to weed, no idea why

>>691263807
its called a tincture. and when you do it right, one single drop on your tongue can make you stoned for hours.
easy fix for geting high.
ive done my research.
im just wondering if anyone has actually dont it is all.

>>691263512
I meant OEV

>>691259434
quit smoking for a few months.
let your anxiety dissipate.

after a few months start again really slowly. buy a one hitter pipe. dont jump straight into smoking fat bowls from a bong.

and follow these tips i wrote
>>691262795
>>691262795

>>691263285

If you really like DXM what you want to do is Special K. Smoking dust, robo-tripping, and K are all kind of similar highs. With dust being the dirtiest feeling, and K being the nicest/cleanest feeling, and DXM in the middle somewhere but closer to dust.

Actual tripping on LSD or mushrooms is a whole other ball of wax. Fucking awesome in it's own right, but totally not comparable to robo-tripping.

>>691263972
>>691259434
also check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruokJEMETlA

>>691263906
> one single drop on your tongue can make you stoned for hours.
>ive done my research.

Well I've made the shit and that's bullshit. the shit would have to be as thick as mucous and still wouldn't potent enough to get a real stoner high ( I used to smoke more than a quarter a day easy, to my dome) and it certainly wasn't good enough, even being as thick as I could get it by adding straight up activated hash