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ITT: people who think both of these guns are equally as lethal try to convince me of this 'fact'
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>>691107625
If someone points either one at your head and pulls the trigger you will die.
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>>691107748
/thread
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.308 / 30-06 only takes one round in torso area, while that AR will take 2-3 unless you hit the heart.
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>one is designed and used for hunting
>one is designed and used for hunting man
>both can be used interchangeably

"""""Assault""""" weapons are just what liberals call scary looking black guns with tacticool attachment rails
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What caliber is the scoped rifle? I can't tell. I'm guessing it's a more lethal caliber than the .223.

Both are semi auto, so that kind of cancels out. The iron sights would be better in a close situation, and the scope would be better for reaching out
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>>691107625
I'd sure as shit rather be 400m away from the AR
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AR15s fire .223 while 30-06 is one of the more popular hunting rifles. A .223 is only a scratch compared to it.
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>>691107625
The bottom one has a revolver grip, or as my antigun group calls them "death multiplier" and it has a way too big clip that thing probably holds over 50 slugs
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>>691107625
in the right hands youre dead either way you gigantic faggot
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>>691107625
Most hunting rifles in a magnum or ap round would kill two in one shot man

Even then the sand Niggers coudlnt get a gun so they used a pressure cooker and killed just as many.

Why not ban islam
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>>691107625
marksmanfag here.... i don't care what it is... i'll kill ya just as dead with my 8 yr old sons .22 from 500yards you fucking dip shit.... but honestly i'd rather put some 12ga 4 shot in your chest and turn your faggot ass into hamburger
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>>691107918
Do you honestly think you can shoot that lever action as fast as that semi auto?
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>>691108686
you are to stupid for this discussion. that is the whole gun debate in a nutshell unfortunately.
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>>691108686
If you have a scope and a good vantage point you don't need to fire very fast.
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Well.. One is for c.q.b. and the other can pick you off from afar. Are they equally as lethal..? Well, no. The long range rifle will blow you to pieces. If it hits the limb, that limb is mince meat. The head? Well, you've seen suicide pictures. The abdomen or chest? Dead. No question about it. The m-16 is made to "shock" the body. The rounds are made to incapacitate the enemy, not kill them. Of course, it's possible to get a kill shot, but it typically takes multiple rounds to kill someone. The distance of the m-16 is about 300 meters. The long range weapon will certainly kill a target long pass that range. But if you're doing c.q.b. Or close quarter battle, go for the m-16.
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>>691108686
that is not a bolt action rifle
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>>691108578
500 yards, it'd make a cute bruise anon
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>>691108578
500 yards? Nice superpowers.
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>>691107625
scope>iron
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>>691108686
They're both semi automatic rifles.

They're literally the same. If the scoped rifle takes detachable mags then there is no difference in the lethality of the two. The scoped rifle might even be the better choice if you're shooting from longer range.
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>>691108686
Close to it, but maybe not as fast. But again when youre tossing bigger slugs you dont need speed as much.
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>>691107748
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>>691107918
>>691108185
>>691108371
>>691108459
>>691108478
>>691108578

Can you stupid niggers tell me why then most of the military/police don't use hunting rifles then unless they're snipers? Because ARs ARE MORE LETHAL
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>>691109179
lol 500 yards not "super power status" the range down the street from me has a 500 yard section that is full of people once a week. (not same fag)
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>>691109232
>smaller boolet
>MORE lethal
y o u w o t m 8
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>>691109232
>thinks its about lethality
Easier to carry m8.
8/10 bait
Dis gun be good
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>>691108958
>5.56 meme
>shocks the body
>tumbling bullets

Also

>Sniper rifle meme
>It has a scope so it will blow limbs off

Dude, those guns are basically the same. Both semi autos chambered in .223.
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>>691109232
Your thread are shit anon, have a sage
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>>691109260
And you routinely kill human size targets @ 500 yards with a .22?

Reading comprehension. You should go buy some.
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>>691109260
.22lr at 500, yeah not gonna hurt someone, carries about as much energy as a tennis ball at 50m
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>>691109355
>>691109381

You make no sense.

None of you do.

If both OPs guns are just as effective, why even bother carrying one or the other? They are made for a specific purpose.

ARs are better at almost any scenario a service person would get into except a sniper. If we use your retarded logic, everyone could just use hunting rifles...but they don't for some reason.
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>>691109232
You could rack up a high score pretty quickly with a long range hunting rifle at a big outdoor event. Those two guns are better at different things, but both are quite capable of killing plenty of people.
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>>691107625
Gun expert reporting.

If they both shoot the same bullets their capable of doing the same damage. fire rate is a factor of course, when dealing with multiple targets or creating suppressive fire to ward off and advancing enemy. But the death toll of mass casualty attacks has far more to do with timing and choice of target than it which firearm is used. Do you really think someone firing a shotgun or a high capacity handgun like a glock or beretta into a crowded nightclub would have produced drastically different results? Seriously?

Yes the fire rate of a semi automatic is much higher than a bolt action, but keep in mind all modern handguns use the same action and nobody plans on banning hand guns. The VA Tech shooting was done with a hand gun and caused nearly as many casualties.

I'm not really against gun regulation, but targeting it only at certain weapons seems useless. I promise you anybody that wants to shoot up a public place will make do with whatever guns are available the next time. 100% of all guns kill things dead equally efficiently if used correctly.

I'm not feeding you some fucktard NRA talking point. If both those rifles are chambered for 5.56 they are ballistically identical and fire rate is the only degree of separation.
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My Ford F 250 can kill more people than my Fiat.

We should ban dem assault vehicles ASAP.
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>>691109607
The two guns pictured are the same except for the scope. They're both semi automatic rifles with detachable magazines. Look at the hunting rifle, you can see the mag release forward of the trigger guard.

Those rifles are essentially the same in rate of fire. The only difference is the sights.
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>>691109793
Drive it into a big crowd at 100mph. That'll spark the national assault vehicle debate.
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>>691109232

Because the smaller round is still lethal whilst allowing a soldier or cop to carry a substantial amount.

Basically its a balance between lethality and portability. You may as well ask why cops and soldiers don't all carry Barrett .50s, or rocket launchers, since both are more lethal than an M4 or M16.
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>>691109684

>high capacity handgun

30 round mags for glocks...two glocks...in a crowd with 60 bullets...uh yeah that's a lot of dead people.
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>>691109607
God damn this bait is too good.
It is because the modern sportsmans rifle is easier to carry than the hunting rifle. That is why, it is less cumbersome in tight quarters. Also it can have attachments that make wielding it in these environments easier. It isnt about lethality when they are exactly the same.
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>>691109684
>Gun expert
>Misidentified the scoped rifle as a bolt gun.
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>>691109853

Great, then why don't service people use hunting rifles then? Makes no sense
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>>691110039
>imblying ar's aren't used in hunting every day
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>>691109607
The point is if it will affect gun crime or not. Obviously AR are lighter and more ergonomic for being used by solders who have to lug them around all day with tons of other gear.

It's a valid point that this is pretty irrelevant to a suicidal attacker that doesn't plan on being alive for more than a couple of hours. Would a hunting rifle be less comfortable? Yeah, I'm sure his arms might get tired faster.

I don't see how making a mass shooters arms more tired makes me safer. Is that not a valid point?
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>>691109954

Hence ARs are more lethal, thanks.
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>>691109982

see >>691110173

checkmate
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>>691110173

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?
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>>691110012
My mistake, it is a semi. I never enlarged the pic.
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>>691110173
No they arent
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>>691110151

no, see you're losing the debate now.

even if an AR is easier to carry and allows for more rounds to be carried, that makes it more lethal.

logic
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>>691110242
No they arent dude. It is the same round fired from both. They arent more lethal
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>>691110383
How?
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>>691110410
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>>691110317

See >>691110383
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Pretty sure now this is bait.
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>>691110039
What I'm saying is the function and internals of those two rifles are identical. If they are chambered in the same round then they act the same balistically.

However, the AR platform does have a lot of things going for it. It's lighter than the hunting rifle. If it has picatinny rails then it can accept a lot of different optics and attachments to enhance functionality. Its a rugged design built to withstand prolonged combat, not just a day in the woods.

But a trained shooter can do the same thing with either of those rifles.
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>>691110448

if i have a choice by carrying around a hunting rifle with less rounds that is more cumbersome, vs an AR with a bunch of mags i'm going to choose an AR obviously, and if I can shoot at all I'll be more lethal because of my choice.
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>>691110383
The dead people are just as dead regardless of the comfort of the shooter.
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>>691107888
Assault weaponry is a marketing term coined in the early 80s by gun makers who were marketing military style semi and fully automatic rifles and machine pistols to civilians.
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>>691110622

Then that means you have the ability to be more lethal, not that the gun itself is more lethal.
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>>691110383
To be fair, this. A higher rate of fire does in fact allow for a higher capacity for destruction. However, still firing same round so each is as lethal per round as the other
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Tbh the shooters training/experience with the weapon(s) is more lethal in a way than the weapon itself. I feel rather confident I could do more damage with a hunting rifle than most nutjobs have done with assault rifles and handguns have done.
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>>691109232
Because the name of the game in war is close quarter battle. Raiding homes, raiding cities. Raiding. Duh.
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>>691110622
But when they are chambered the same, you can carry the same amount of ammo for both. The rifle is what is cumbersome. They both are chambered the same, meaning you can carry the same ammo. Your argument is like saying my nissan is lighter and can carry more gas, so it must be faster than a lambo, it's ridiculous.
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The rifles might be identical, but i would take down more people with the AR.

They both kill. You dont want to get hit by any of them.
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>>691110741
But both guns have the same rate of fire
Semi-auto
Each trigger pull = a pew
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>>691111111
Gotcha
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Depending on ammo, shooting an AR into a crowd may kill one person. Assuming the "most lethal" case in 5.56 with AP ammo, you may fully penetrate 2 people and wound a third.

The Browning? In the right chambering with the right ammo shooting into a packed crowd, you'd kill 2 or 3 times as many people from further away. Being further away negates the advantage of the standard-capacity magazine of the AR.

Politically, there's no difference. The people who want to ban the AR want to ban all guns. Period. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

https://youtu.be/vzDO86iSKWU

If you really want an eye-opener, read the full text of the original Metzenbaum "assault rifle" bill from which every bill since then has derived. It would have banned all semi-automatic firearms, period, including pistols used at the Olympics, shotguns, etc.

We know what they really want. Fuck 'em.
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>>691107625
The lower one has a much higher capacity magazine. More shots usually means more kills.
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>>691109232
An AR is a sandnigger hunting rifle
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>>691109415
>Dude, those guns are basically the same. Both semi autos chambered in .223.
The lower one obviously has a much higher capacity magazine. More shots = more kills.
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>>691111710
No it doesnt.
A tool is only as good as its operator
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OMG, this again. You could wreak total havoc with a semi 0.22 and 50-round clips if you wanted to. The key being, wanting to.
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It's definitely the guns fault.
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>>691107625
Genuine answer here- but full disclosure I'm pretty uninformed. I only ever shot rifles in high school on a shooting team, they were .22 bolt-action rifles.

I generally think the added lethality from an "assault" style weapon comes not from the size of the round or the fire-rate, which may be similar or identical to a semi-auto hunting rifle, but from the design. The smaller form factor, pistol grip, folding/telescoping stock, etc. makes the weapon easier to manipulate and improves target aquisition at close range... Being able to choose targets quicker will certainly contribute to lethality... Especially in a mass shooting scenario.

Gun nuts get so butthurt that the specs of the two rifles might be similar (both semi-auto, same caliber, etc) but one is clearly intended for hunting/shooting as a sport and the other is clearly for close quarters combat. One of them is a modern designed, lightweight, tactical killing tool - and the other has a big bulky heavy wood stock which a lot of people use a sling to support their shot with. The size and form of such a weapon make it more suited for shooting as a sport/hunter than for combat and that is indisputable. Fucking rednecks are so concerned with their baby-dick power fantasies and being a muddy GI Joe that they can't see past the general similarities and that makes them sound autistic AF.
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>>691111710
couldn't you just get an extended mag, so they both have the same capacity? what's the difference at that point just the weight.
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One is the assault rifle 15 that should be on battlefields, in trained military hands.. it accepts high capacity magazines and is capable of shooting up to 9000 rounds per minutes. It is easily concealed and has many military functions not necessary for civilians.. the other is a hunting rifle, for hunting deer..not people. You people in burgerstan are crazy.
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Here's a fun read. This is obamas gun study. Performed by the American medical institute under the authority of the CDC so as not to disobey congressional orders to not implement gun control with federal funds. It was a means to prove that guns are the problem but it was swept under the rug and the MSM was ordered not to report on it because it scientifically proved quite the opposite.

http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

Have fun
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>>691112390
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you could just buy a higher capacity magazine for either and get a bullpup stock for the longer rifle making them the exact same thing.
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>>691109232

308 is heavy as shit compared to 5.56
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>>691109232
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If clip size didnt matter drum mags wouldent be a thing. Also, in Iraq we all got m16s which we would ocassionaly set to single fire to engage targets in excess of 300m away. It's still an assault rifle when set to single fire. Was never created for civilian use
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>>691112573
The assault rifle 15 has magazines up to 200 rounds, commonly and easily available the hunting rifle has magazines up to a maximum of about 5 and probably hard to find. No you could not put a bull pup stock on a hunting rifle.
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>>691112974
>assault rifle 15
AR=autolite rifle, you mouth breather
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>>691112953
>wouldent
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>>691112974
This is a mosin nagant. Decades old bolt action rifle.
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>>691113125
Can't think up an argument huh burger?
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>>691108958
1) they're both semi-automatics.
2) it's not an M-16 it's an AR style rifle. The fire selector switch only has two choices.
3) lethality is a question of can it kill you. And yes, they can both kill you with a single round, therefore they are equally lethal. No other factors matter for lethality.
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>>691113147
A fine hunting rifle.
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>>691109684
Are those your assault pistols? we gotta do something about these automatic assault pistols!!!
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>>691113212
Not surprised, burger can't make an argument so he posts meme pics.
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>>691107838
not correct.
An AR-15 fragments and shreds your insides, effectively turning into a shotgun shell inside your body. .308 creates a bigger wound but with fragmentation mostly contained and little tumble.

The main difference is probably also the amount of shots that can be fired consecutively on target due to recoil.
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>>691112974
All this drum mags and extendoclips and such are usually knockoff pieces of novelty shit. Sure they're cool to look at. But that's about it
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>>691113389
fragmentation depends on the round and charge

>being this ignorant
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>>691113125
I'm a soldier, not an English teacher. Fagget. Did I spell it rite?
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Charles Whitman here. I'd say the hunting rifle as it is more effective at range.
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>>691113414
Yeah totally, it's not like a drum magazine fits an extra 100 rounds compared to the hunting rifles 5.
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>>691112974
lol there are bullpup conversion kits for lots of things you can also find high capacity mags for nearly anything. though I personally only have antiques and I know there are bullpup conversions and huge mags for any sks variant.
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Depends. How good a shot are you? Faggot
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.308 in the streets would be more dangerous due to long distance, wheras the AR is better indoors/close range. It's circumstantial, but it counts.
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>>691107625
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>>691113414
Then why do we use drum mags for our LMGS?. Think hard retard
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>>691113595
Yeah and they are junk lol. Good luck even getting 30 rounds to cycle. Geez
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Equally as lethal? How do you measure that?
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Hamburgers kill more people then guns dipshit!!!! Heart disease is killing us all. Ban Ground Beef Now!!!!!! No more 80/20!! No More 80/20!! DO it for the children.
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>>691112974
>assault rifle 15
This thread is just great
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>>691113608
It would not be a Hunting rifle if you put a drum magazine in it and bull pup stock on it.
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>>691113808
how dead the victim is
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>>691113476
The charge has to be enough to cycle the weapon, which alone is putting a 5.56 at 1300m/s.
An FMJ will cause less fragmentation and more tumbling, but those aren't the standard ammunition.
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>>691113783
Ever fired a squad automatic weapon?
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>>691113595
My 31 rd Glock mag jams every 2-3 rds. Other than being great for malfunction drills it's a pos. Wouldn'tcarry/10
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>>691113725
>he thinks we use drum mags with LMGs
All right timmy time to put down the COD
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>>691113942
Those arent drum mags you glorious faggot.
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>>691107625
The Browning .30-06 on top is way more lethal cartridge wise than the AR chambered in .223Rem/5.56 beneath it.
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>>691113783
With quality ammunition, which is available at any gun store in burgerstan (any street corner really, within a mile of McDonald's no doubt) it'll have no trouble cycling. Even with low quality American seagull ammunition you'll probably not have a problem.
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>>691113725
Which lmg specifically and I'll tell you why that argument is a whole different argument.
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>>691113389
You have downs
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>>691114325
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My guns have not killed anyone! I must be using wrong?!?
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>>691114362
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>>691107625
why is everyone hung up on which gun is more "lethal"? I mean cars are much more lethal than guns and no one cars about that.
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>>691114231
so you know exactly what I am talking about.
does this anger you?
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>>691114016
You probably buy bad ammunition or more likely broke the magazine.. I wouldn't be surprised you burgers love to break stuff.
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>>691113863
Unless its full/semi-auto, there would be no need to put a bullpup conversion kit on any rifle unless its to make it more compact.
Besides, theres barely any viable bullpup kits for AR15s.
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>>691114227
No. Drum mags are a novelty. Just nice to look at, but not very functional. It isnt about the ammo, it is about the construct of the magazine and trying to keep 50+ rounds under pressure. They suck man
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>>691114016
what do you expect? it's a glock.
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>>691113821
If you want to accidentally shoot your family members. If you need protection, get a dog. It knows your fiancée from a thief
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I think my guns r broke!

They arnt jumping up killing peeps HALP!
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>>691114408
they aren't more lethal.
how many hours does the average american spend in a car per week?
Compare that to the amount of hours americans spend shooting every week. Build a ratio, show your work.
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>>691114600
cool dubs
too bad youve got shit for brains though
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>>691114227
Wrong. It isn't about the ammo. It's about the quality of the mag itself. Putting 30-100 rounds into a magazine that already has a ridiculously long spring is just gonna wear it out and make the spring even weaker. Then, when the weapon cycles, it's lightning fast. And the next round is being pushed up slower than the cycle because of how weak that mile long spring is. And if you want to get a 100rd drum mag that doesn't jam you really gotta shell out the bucks. But for the most part anything like that at a reasonable price is just a novelty.
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>>691114476
You are misinformed burger, I have been to burgerstan and seen drum mags function flawlessly over and over again. Every firearms expert swears by them. They are fine, they are effective and they are dangerous.
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>>691107625
One cannot be more lethal or less lethal than the other. If it's lethal it's lethal
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>>691114811
Ah so your just taking the piss huh?
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>>691114600
>thinks an intelligent human would hurt the wrong person
>trusts an aggressive dog

nigga wat?
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>>691114438
Winchester white box. But idk why I even bothered. You bongs have no understanding of firearms and function. Glocks will eat anything if the mag is decent. Extendo clips are for the lulz
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>>691114600
Dogs are poor protection unless they're very large and well-trained (as in trained to attack humans, not "obedience school" bullshit that you should be able to do yourself).
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The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.
-Some libtard faggot in new york
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>>691114635
Show me your tits you lil bitch
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>>691113785
At least post the best version
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>>691114782
Any drum magazine that isn't $10 will work fine when it's new. I'm going to go with the fact that burgers don't know how to take care of their belongings.
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>>691114600
Why not both?
Accidentally shooting a gun at anything living shows how irresponsible a person is.
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>>691114811
Stop trolling. The nogunz faggots will believe that shit.
While it's funny to us, that shit is what gets people to vote for magazine bans because they are fucking retarded and believe the lies.
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>>691114943
If you don't have an argument then don't waste my time, burger.
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>>691114983
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>>691114980
Gersh Kuntzman - his name fits, since he is a huge pussy.
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>>691114554
Lol bad bait. I've never had a malfunction with either of my glocks and the one in question is from 1994. I can magdump as fast as I can pull with the factory 15rd mag. This cheap piece of shit 31rd Korean mag jams all the time. And they don't make oem 31rd mags for Glock G22. Only 20rd(ish) don't recall exact capacity
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>>691115171
Youre the one trolling. You have no clue about drum magazines, and are pretending to not be american. Lol it is such a shitty attempt to troll
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>>691115086
You have no idea what you're talking about. Even the cheapest 100rd AR drum is like $75.
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>>691114972
I understand that burgers are notorious for breaking stuff, it's likely you broke and abused the magazine causing the problem..then go on to blame the magazines. Otherwise you probably bought fake ammunition, cheap ammunition, faulty ammunition.
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>>691107625
OP if you weren't such a fag you wouldn't have to worry about your nightclub getting shot up by an AR
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>>691110039
Because you don't hunt people you silly worm
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>>691115474
you do when they're hunting you
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>>691115390
Fake ammo? Is that a thing?
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>>691115126
What isn't true about what I said? Don't have an argument so you fall back to "don't troll waaah" great work burger.
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>>691115353
I didn't know guns can make clean cuts
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dont the Germans and the British have super strict gun laws - but wait mass shooting in Germany those laws seem to be working just fine
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>>691115569
Fake ammo aka snapcaps
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>>691115661
kek
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then youve got a lot to learn>>691115661
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>>691115611
Nothing in this whole thread that you specifically have said is even remotely true. Like not even a little bit.
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>>691115388
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I don't think you're getting the point. He's taking about maintaining his shit and you jump onto costs.
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>>691115285
I know plenty about drum magazines, so much that you can't mount a proper argument. Instead you resort to "you're trolling haha totes got you xD"
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>>691115694
If I want snap caps I'll buy snap caps. I'm not gonna find snap caps in a box of winchesters.
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>>691115781
kek
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>>691107625
>>>/k/
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>>691115900
nice dubs
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>>691115775
Yeah. I was using cost to point out his ignorance. And no matter how well it's maintained these types of mags malfunction out of the box. Brand new. That's the point.
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>>691108686
That's not lever action tho
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>>691115782
Oh yeah, then tell me why the majority have low ratings? Tell me about the cost difference between low end and high end? Tell me more about how you are pretending to not be american? Tell me why everything you have said isnt even remotely true?
Im just waiting for you to pull pic related.
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>>691115388
You can buy cheap garbage used drum magazines in burgerstan, which I'm sure you and many others do. I'm certain they're terrible no surprise. A 100 dollar car I would not expect to be that great. But any drum mag over 50 dollars will be fine if you take care of it..but guess what, you don't .
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>>691115611
Not falling for your bait, fella.
Anyone with half a brain can use google and read the reviews on any drum or high cap magazine. Most like from ProMag are horrible, because 100rd drum mags suck. They bind up and are no good. Now, Russian made high cap drums for AKMs tend to work a bit better, but take more maintenance than a normal mag.
All in all, standard cap mags are cheaper, way more reliable, and quicker to swap out for reloads.
Drums tend to be gimmicks for mall ninjas and you know it "m8."
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>>691107625
You can kill more people from close-range with an AR. You can kill one person at a time from a long distance with the rifle. They aren't equal, which is why I have both.
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>>691116205
>cleary sucks at no-scoping
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>>691115781
This makes so much sense! We really shouldn't have any laws honestly, cause some people might not obey them.
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>>691116163
No. It won't.
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>>691115900
You might. Winchester white box has been known to not add powder to rounds, only priming them. Quality control is not great.
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>>691115912
It is not hard to get mental health care, it is hard to get crazy people to use it.
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>>691115569
Certainly, swap the ammo in a box for cheap junk ammo. Most burgers don't check.
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>>691116473
>bring back insane asylums
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>>691115095
this.

If you shoot ma by accident then YOU shot ma, the gun didn't dun diddly do nothin
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>>691107625
>detachable magazine
>pistol grip for ease of access to operating controls (mainly magazine release and bolt catch)
You can definitely kill more people in a short amount of time with the AR-15.
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>>691116529
Dude stahp. You are embarrassing yourself
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>>691107625
It's really disingenuous to present only one with a substantial magazine.
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>>691115745
What exactly? Make an argument.
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>>691116379
I've never had an issue with thousands of shots fired.
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>>691116541
Yeah because the sjw crowd would love that
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ok lets say they ban the ar15 ok whats to stop a wacko from using a .22 semiauto they ban those 9mm pistols they ban those see where it leads then people will just build them or buy them off the black market they solved fucking nothing - simple solution restore the NSA
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>>691109232
ARs are popular with law enforcement and military personnel because their design is modular and versatile. Scopes, flashlights, grenade rails, and other equipment is readily available. So they buy one gun in bulk, then the attachments to refine it's purpose. It's sad that the basic logic behind their choices is so lost on you.
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You guys are essentially comparing a screwdriver and a hammer. They're both tools used for similar things. They don't accomplish the task in the same way though. A real comparison would be to compare an AR-15 with an SKS or something. That's a legitimate comparison
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>>691116490
If we had a fight where I was given a gun and you had a baseball bat, you would be fucking shafted.
I prefer criminals with baseball bats to criminals with guns.
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>>691116529
ITT: summerfaggots trying to make 'burger' the next "thing"
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>>691116529
Most do check actually. I've never bought ammo without opening the box. Handed one back to the guy one time cause the primers were corroded. It was an old box of Hornady critical duty or some gay shit.
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Frankly, as long as I can keep my gyrojet, I don't care.

>Current year
>Not owning a Buck Rogers rocket pistol
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>>691116541
He's right. Since the mental health reforms in the 50s/60s, it takes a court order to get an unwilling adult to be submitted for even psychiatric evaluation unless law enforcement see something that makes them think the person is unstable - and they aren't even trained to make field evaluations.
So yeah, system is broken.
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>>691116688
>nice trips+dubs+dubs
who gives a shit what SJWs think?

seriously, who?
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Guns don't kill people.
Rappers do.
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Current drum mag prices. Various calibers and firearms compatabilities.
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>>691116126
They have low ratings because burgers can't maintain anything, being notorious for breaking things they, to no one outside burgerstans surprise, break the magazine and complain.

I'm not from burgerstan, thankfully.
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>>691116987
Jesus christ, dude
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>>691116796
>I prefer criminals with baseball bats to criminals with guns.

But when the bastard comes for me, I prefer to have a gun to a baseball bat.
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>>691116332
Great argument.
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>>691116915
Well seeing as how people bow to them, they kinda control shit.
>we need more people treated for mental disorders
Ok miss, it seems according to your own admission, you have depression, are bipolar, and have body dismorphia
>REEEEEE MY BODY MY CHOICE CIS SCUM GET AWAY IM HEALTHY
Miss, you are mentally unstable, come with us
>NORMAL ISNT NORMAL IM FINE IM SPECIAL REEEEEEEEEE
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>>691113389
Hey, you know what else fragments inside your body?

9mm hollow point rounds in a fucking handgun with a shit fuck load of bullets per magazine

oooo so not deadly compared to an assault rifle

I almost want to shoot up a mall with a handgun just to prove that they're just as fucking deadly if used correctly.

Hell I would think they'd be even easier. Go down to your good ol' gander mountain and get a trusty glock 23 with some hollow points, grab a couple big ass magazines that are likely right in the aisle next to the fishing shit, walk into a building and let er rip. You can probably even chase down the stragglers easier cause you'll be carrying less weight.

Fuck off
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