wipe your ass with your left hand or your right?

>>691097730
right

>>691097636
Where are the other two arms to your little twisted cross?

i can sort of understand the square, but what use do you have for dividers?

>>691097891
Since it is not a cross they are obviously missing.

>>691097636
ever visit any lodges abroad?

>>691097636
What country are you from?

>>691097963
It stems from the traditional masonry tools, symbolizing the measurement of your character and your perpetual improvement, because that more than anything else is what freemasonry is about

>>691098040
I visited a lodge on London and Warzaw
>>691098104
Germany, Duh.

I live in Scotland and was interested in joining a lodge but I'm not entirely sure on what I would need to have or do in order to join.

>>691097636
whats your lodge no.?

>>691097963
>>691098163
To be more exact, the static and 90 degree Square symbolizes divine judgement and order, while the movable Dividers symbolize the human nature trying to adapt to the divine order as best a possible

>>691098270
go and ask. its that simple

>>691098270
Search for the website of a lodge in your area and contact them there. You will then usually be invited to join them on special visitor evenings, usually once a month. There you will learn about certain aspects of freemasonry and get to know the brothers of the lodge. After a while they will then ask you if you want to join the lodge. This can take months or years, depending how regularily you visit the evenings and how well you fit in the lodge.

>>691098372
I wont tell you, but i am located in Hesse, Germany

>>691098801
yeesh its hardly above top secret

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What are your thoughts on Thelema, OP?

>>691097636
Any good hazing stories?

why'd you join?

>>691097636
whats a good recipe for a silky smooth hummus??

>>691097636
Infiltrated by the jews... poor you.

>>691099015
crowley was a nutjob..not a genius

>>691099015
I have not dealt with it too much. Can't give a knowledable Anser on that.

>>691099159
http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-hummus-from-scratch-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-107560

>>691099125
I was at a point in life in college where i did not know what to do with my life, and started to ask myself questions that i could not discuss with anyone i felt.

What do you know about Turkish Freemasonry?

>>691099485

Why does society look at you like you are some satanist or devil worshipers?

I'd like to join, any lodge in Croatia?

What's the solution to international jewry?

>>691099375
thanks!! i'll give it a try

>>691099685
People fear what they don't understand. That's were the irrational fear of "secret" societies and other intellectual associations come from. Just google for a lodge in your area and contact them via their website. Simple as that :)

>>691099723
No Solution needed. They are people like everyone else.

>>691099649
There are different Branches of Freemasonry, but the most common around the world are the classic scottish rites and english freemasonry. No special turkish branch as far as i am aware.

>>691099852
Thank you for a polite response.

Will try, thanks.

Have a nice day.

>>691097636
got any trinkets to prove?

What are the benefits of being a freemason?

>>691100089

Scottish rite is the most common in Turkey, but - if you know - how do you compare it with the Freemasonry in Europe?

>>691100271
Having a deep connection with other likeminded people, learning ways to improve your own character and your understanding of the world, opening your eyes for different ways of thinking.
It is a neverending personal and intellectual journey.

>>691097636
How many cocks have you sucked?

>>691100470
Most branches differ in their way of thinking about the status of religon in freemasonry. There are branches like the scottish rite that are very deeply connected with christian ideals of knightship and progression through lots of different grades. Then there are branches that are not as doctrinated to christian ideology, and follow a more general approach to divine order.

>>691100571
0, but would like to try someday. Why not?

>>691100499
Is it actually that? What do you guys talk about?

how does it feel being a shitty, beta secret society?
do you believe in conspiracy theories of better groups?

>>691097636
You're not a master of anything. Using the term "master" means you need a label to be confident. You and your collegues live a life of beggars, congratulating each other for living a lie.

>>691100959
Foremost it is a pretty normal round of people from all points in life. Young, Old, Poor Rich, Blue collar workers and CEOs. In the Lodge everyone is equal. Even the newest Brother to the Lodge Master. Outside of ritual work we talk about God and the world, like you would in any other club around. The Ritual work and the insights granted by progressing in studying freemasonry allow for deeper conversations about the human and divine nature, the workings of the world and the Great Whys of our existence.

>>691097636
Do you have to believe on some forms of higher deity to become a freemason?

wie schwierig sind teil 3 und 4 ?

>>691101074
Feels Good. I have brothers i would trust with my life and a place where i can pull back from the world outside and spend some time thinking about the workings of the world. I don't believe in most conspiracy therories no.

>>691101353
so you don't actually carve stones?

>>691101486
No. You transform your own character and personality from a rough stone to a beautiful perfect cubus.

>>691101473
from what you are saying it sounds like some college safe space

>>691101558
that sounds extremely gay

>>691101692
Well, if you think so :)

>>691101581
Well both college fraternities and the brotherhood in a lodge follow the same tradition of brotherly companionship, so if you want to think about it that way?.. why not.

Is weed alowed with the freemasons?

>>691101473
Great answers anon!! you are not bitting their bait!! thanks for your time

do you worship satan?

>>691102269
Freemasonry does not have any dogmas or rules assoicated to it on how you should live your own life. It just provides insights ony how to improve you own personality and character.

op tell us are the illuminati a branch or your society?

>>691102391
No.

>>691102475
No.

are you able to leave safely or will they hunt you down?

>>691102448
Ok, thanks.

What is your view on marijuana?

>>691097636
How much do you have to pay to the lodge?

>>691102529
Then what is Illuminati?

>>691099485
How old were you when you joined

>>691102567
I smoked a few joints, but never bought weed myself. Smoked a lot when i stayed in Istanbul for a few months and my roomate there always had wee on hand ;)
I dont't think it is dangerous, and honestly it should be legal everywhere.

>>691102688
I am part of the illuminati

>>691102732
21.

>>691102814
Can I be part of your lodge?

>>691102761
Other anon, i think its more important to ask, what's your lodge's opinion on weed? Mostly regular consumption

>>691102761
Thank you again for a polite reply.

ok so not answering my question of whether or not you can safely leave is that a no?

I like masons cocks

>>691102555
You can of course leave the lodge if you want, but in general being a freemason is a bond for life. That does not mean that you will be hunted down though, but that even if you leave the lodge you will always remain a freemason.

>>691102902
No problem mate. My pleasure.

>>691102767
So how related are the Bilderbergs to it all?

>>691102814
I thought as much, I call bullshit on everything you say.
You've done your research I'll give you that but you're not a mason.

>>691097636
welche loge?

>>691102881
If you live in Hesse, Germany? Sure.
If not just google for lodges in your area and contact them.

>>691102928
Wanna suck mine?

>>691102933
oh ok thank you op was just curious if leaving would have them stalking you or something.

>>691102919

>>691102933

>>691102984
There are actually 3 members of the illuminati in club Bilderberg (hint: 2 of them are monarchs from europe)

>>691103006
Why would you think that?
Because of my age? In my lodge there are actually people even younger than me. Mostly Sons of other brothers. The youngest is 18.

>>691103007
Zum flammenden Schwert

>>691103122
Only if it is big enough for my mouth

>>691103354
Well... Pretty Average actually sorry mate :P

>>691103350
ich hab mich auch für eine loge in süddeutschland beworben, warte grade noch auf einen termin zum kennenlernen

>>691103421
No wories m8

>>691103497
Na dann viel Spaß auf deiner Reise. Einfach unvoreingenommen hingehen und alles auf dich wirken lassen.

How do you feel about Nicholas Cages grandfather's grandfather who was a free Mason and had to steal the declaration of independence?

>>691103808
I loved that movie

>>691103646
Danke ich freue mich sehr drauf. Eine vielleicht dumme frage aber wie wäre ich am besten gekleidet beim ersten kennenlernen? Smoking oder etwas feinere Strassenkleidung?

>>691103916
Business Casual. Einfach ein nettes Hemd, saubere Hose und Schuhe ;)

>>691103350
>Zum flammenden Schwert
Oh Darmstädter. 10 Min fahrt von mir.
So ne Loge...ist das sowas wie ne Verbindung?
Zudem:
Sind in so Logen auch langhaarige, die sozial engagiert und gegen den Kapitalismus sind wilkommen oder ist das eher was für gestriegelte? Nicht, dass ich nicht Hemd und Hose hätte aber es geht eher um die Einstellung... Hatte immer das Gefühl, in Studentenverbindungen hat jemand wie ich nichts zu suchen

>>691104823
In der Loge is generell jeder willkommen. Eine Sache die man jedoch beachten sollte, ist das in der loge niemals über parteipolitische Themen geredet wird. Niemand weiss wer welche partei wählt etc.

Why don't you accept agnostics?

>>691101353
>Talk about God

Does one have to be a christian / believer to be a Freimaurer?

>>691102646
this. What is expected from you to do today and in the future

>>691097636
by shaping the "squares", are you basically performing social engineering? In america I've noticed that masons tend to also be very manipulative people.

test

>>691097636

How can I join you, master?

>>691097636
Interessanter Thread. Danke für deine Antworten und die bisherigen Einblicke.

Was mich persönlich interessiert: Wie steht es mit dem finanziellen Aspekt? Gibt es verpflichtende Zuwendungen an die Loge hinsichtlich Aufnahme, Mitgliedschaft und Aufstiege in den "Rängen"?

Prinzipiell bin ich sehr an dem Thema Freimaurer interessiert und würde mir dort auch gern mal selbst ein Bild verschaffen, habe aber irgendwie Bedenken, dass man am Ende mit nicht unerheblichen finanziellen Verpflichtungen konfrontiert wird.

>>691105135
>>691105147
Since the masonic teachings are based upon the believe in a greater being, you need to believe in some kind of higher being to join yes. But you don't need to follow a specific religion.

do you rape children like your Aussie counterparts

Post more answers, ffs!

>>691105066
Das finde ich eher entspannend. Davon hab ich im Studium mehr als genug....

>>691105459
You have to pay a small monthly fee as with other clubs that you join as well. In my case it is 10 Euros a month for example. This money goes nearly 100% to charity after rent etc. though.

Why the belief in a higher being, isn't humanist morality enough?

masonry is only old people business lol
they hold no power anymore

>>691105634
Well i do believe in greater beings. Even gods. But nature gods in a buddhistic way. Would that be acceptable too?
How many non-christians do you have in your loge?

>>691105601
>>691105761
There are also small fees that you have to pay initially for your garments and Lodge-medal etc, i think it was like 60 Euros

>>691097636
Do you know any Master Baiters?

>>691105833
Old people run the world, dude

>>691105833
It is not about holding power, and it never was. People that join the lodge just tend to be from circles that tend to personally hold power in the society.

>>691105833
Its a fraternity/boys club, the power those hold is through networking, a mason in a company is more likely to hire or promote a brother mason since they belong to the same tribe. Basically like how on the bigger scale there is cronyism.

>>691097636
What drug did the they smoked? the masons used to be an architecture club, now is some kind of creepy religious sect. Kys dumb ass

>>691105831
There are certain branches based upon pure humanistic approaches, but most lodges follow a christian tradition.

>>691097636
Welche Bücher und Filme kommen nah ans Freimaurertum ran?
Bisschen interessante / besondere Geschichte muss ja immer sein aber welche sind nicht zuuu weit davon entfernt, um Hollywood damit einen zu lutschen?

>>691097636
Wich is the best answer to this questions:
Why do you want to be a mason?
Which is the contribution you can make to the masonry?

>>691105881
Absolutely. In my Lodge we have 4 Muslims, 2 Buddhists and 1 Jewish member.

What do you guys actually do?
What do you do at the lodges?
What do you do as a whole?

what is your purpose

>>691097636
Beeen in any crazy orgies?

>>691106222
Eine der realistischsten Darstellungen einer modernen Freimaurer Loge findet sich im Film Drecksau (Filth) mit James McAvoy

>>691106334
No.

Why u hate catholics

>>691106173
Why is there a need for monotheistic dogma in Freemasonry?

>>691106476
Most of us are christians, a lot catholices as well. It is the catholice church who has a problem with freemasonry.

>>691106300
op, I require the know

>>691097636
Digger ihr habt Rechtschreibfehler auf eurer Website. Das sollte mal einer korrekturlesen

>>691105916
Monatsbeitrag und Gebühren für Ausstattung etc. verstehen sich ja von selbst.

Mir geht es darum, ob Gebühren erhoben werden um in den "Rängen" voranzukommen, oder ob das allein von der persönlichen Entwicklung und der Einschätzung der anderen Mitglieder abhängt.

Nicht das es am Ende heißt: Alles schön, du bist soweit, aber wir bräuchten da noch 5000€.

>>691106522
There is not. Freemasonry is dogmafree, but the beliefs that it is based upon make it nessecary to belief in some kind of greater power. These things are also usually not discussed in the lodge. It does not matter what personal beliefs a brother holds, as long as he can accept that there is some divine power at work that we as humans can only try to understand .

>>691106756
Look a little more at the start of the thread where i answered most of your questions. Sorry it is a lot to write up, and english is not my first language. Takes my a little longer to write stuff up. :)

>>691106793
Nein, absolut nicht.

Can you please explain me how an architecture club turned into this shit? Thanks.

Did the illuminati really infiltrate you guys? If yes post proof

>>691106793
Haha- den letzten Satz hatte ich gerade in einer herrlich witzigen Szene vor meinem geistigen Auge.
Und ja- ich halte meinen kleinen Finger immer entfernt von der Tasse, die ich anhebe.

>>691106408
Drecksau? Echt jetzt? Klingt schon erstmal...abschreckend?

>>691107037
Danke dir. Kannst du evtl. noch etwas über die Ränge an sich sagen?
Du schreibst du bist Master - was darfst/weißt du als Master mehr als sagen wir jemand, der frisch dazukommt.
Geht es hier nur um Rituale etc. oder was hat es damit im Groben auf sich?

>>691106857
Could I join a lodge with the, albeit unproven belief we are within a computer simulation, like Elon Musk?

>>691107411
Im Film selbst ist die Loge nur ein kleiner Nebenschauplatz, aber ist interessant zu sehen :)

>>691107483
Im Grunde gibt es nur drei Ränge. Den Lehrling, Gesellen und Meister. Nach dem Meister Rang, kann man sich dann mit weiteren Hochgradsystemen und speziellem Wissen auseinander setzen, aber das ist freiwillig.
Generell dar niemand mehr als jemand anderes nur aufgrund seines Ranges. Jeder in der Loge ist gleichwertig, der neueste Lehrling und der Logenmeister. Dein Wert innerhalb der Loge wird nur von deiner eigenen Persönlichkeit bestimmt, und der Verantwortung die du im Rahmen von Aufgaben übernimmst, wie Ritualmeister, Logenmeister etc. Das ganze ist aber eher ein Primus inter Parens System. Und Wissen ergibt sich aus anderen Ritualen und Lehren die man mit der Zeit bearbeitet, und die aufeinander aufbauen.

>>691097636
Is it Just a Big gay Club?

>>691108229
No.

what do you aport to the masonry?

>>691108298
Can you prove it?

>>691097636
Do you ever think about demitting?

>>691097636
what does allah tell about solving self and own insecurities

they are torturing me since a lot of years

>>691108521
No ;)

Why does your rituals have to be kept a secret?
Can you discuss that you do there with your wife (for example)?

Are there any consequences if you reveal some of your secrets?

>>691097636
HOLD THE DOOR

>>691108535
No Reason to

>>691108064
Ritualmeister...Logenmeister...
Ich war früher in der Mittelalterszene sehr aktiv und da wurden auch solche Rollen verteilt. Wie ernst nehmt ihr das alles? Und was wäre so ein Beispiel für ein solches Ritual? Ich bin wahrscheinlich von Hollywood völlig Stereotyp-Belastet aber ich sehe euch da alle in langen weiten Roben stehen/knien, während auf nem Altar ein Opferlamm dargebracht wird

>>691108677
Then it is a gay club ;)

what does your wise comunnity tell about solving self and own insecurities

they are torturing me since a lot of years

>>691108679
Oh good point- the wife.
Whats the standpoint on woman in general. What role do they have ect.
I would not like to join but keep my wife far from (possibily) such a great part of my life

what are the initiations to joining the Freemasons? are you not allowed to talk about it? I've been thinking of trying to join as there is a "temple" near where I live. and how has being a Freemason enriched your life?

>>691098801
Frankfurt ? Ich brauch einen Studienplatz, inwiefern kann eure Organisation da was machen ?

>>691108064
Danke für die umfangreiche Antwort. Ich denke ich werde mir mal persönlich einen Eindruck verschaffen und einen Besucherabend wahrnehmen, denn mir geht es im Grunde recht ähnlich wie dir vor deinem Beitritt.

>>691108887
Not OP, but so is your whole family. Unless you prove me that it is not.
See the logic?

>>691099685
Disi u HR ?

>>691108998
Er ist in Darmstadt. Und für nen Studienplatz sollte doch dein NC die Hauptarbeit machen. Oder hast du den verissen?

>>691109091
So you say that you are gay? Because I know my family is gay

Op Here:

Sorry i have to go Guys. I hope i could answer some of your questions and could maybe spark some interest and shed some light on freemasonry.
I'll try to do another AMA thread when i got some time!

>>691097790
Most people use toiletpaper, but hey. I guess OP is a fag

>>691098016
kommt das zeichen eig. aus der Kartographie?

>>691097636
Was it a Muslim?

The movie theater?

>>691109325
Y...your family is gay? The whole thing...?

>>691109402
Noooo
Kaum stell ich ne Frage zu den Ritualen, machst du nen Abgang! Ihr bringt also wirklich Lebend-Opfer dar! Und du musst jetzt schnell weg, bevor du zu viel verrätst!

>>691109856
All my closest family are. We are not that many. It's hard for gays to make kids

>>691109402
>>691110013
Jokes aside. Was interesting stuff to read. Thanks for the thread.
Und sollte ich jemals in Darmstadt vorbeikommen und die mich fragen, wie ich auf euch gekommen bin, sag ich ganz souverän: "Einer von euch Lappen hat nen Thread auf 4chan gemacht und das klang ganz geil"
Die Sache mit den Frauen hätte mich aber wirklich noch sehr interessiert...

>>691110141
Makes sense...

>>691110358
wait...no it ain`t!
If it`s hard...it is possible? How do your people do?

>>691109188
Geht 2.8, will aber wiwi in Frankfurt studieren und da ist der NC doch recht hoch

>>691110478
We try a lot. But my and my sister try to break the gayness in our family. But our fathers think it's weird we have sex with each other

>>691110782
Joar...2,8 ist tatsächlich nicht so Bombe...
Goethe oder Frankfurt University?

>>691111047
Y...you try to break the gayness in your family...by having incest with your sister...? You think thats the best way to deal with all of this...yes?

Also- trying a lot gives gay people bebbies?

>>691111300
In The south States is it The only way. And yes it works

>>691110782
Tjo, dann wird das wohl nichts. Kannst du nur auf einen Platz als Nachrücker hoffen, oder erstmal paar Wartesemester ansammeln.

Ansonsten halt ne andere Uni wählen.