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>>690772313
Trumping

>>690772313
And how is a bunch of good old boys a well-regulated militia?

>>690772789
are you cherry picking son? i wouldn't do that
maybe i should decide what is "free speech" and what is "hate speech"

don't fuck with my rights faggot it won't end well for you

>>690773040
Except the supreme court has already ruled out certain aspects of free speech as being unconstitutional

For public safety

>>690773397
so i shall wait till the supreme court aka the highest court in the land deems a "well regulated militia" faggot

by the way, the jury is still out on that one

>>690773538
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311

>>690773628
they are seaparate ideas you fucking mongolid
>a militia is necessary to the security of a free state
>the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
am i not "the people"?

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>>690773040
Shut the fuck up you overweight, entitled jack ass. I don't trust inbred genetic fuck ups to carry weapons. You might skip your 7th meal of the day and get cranky enough to shoot up a walmart

>>690773917
Can't you read the page? The argument of "Random people arent a militia" was shot down by that ruling

Let's make America great again. Take us back to the times of NSYNC.

>>690772313
You probably think arming everyone is a great idea too

>>690774000
actually i weight well within normal and healthy range 145lbs for 5'6"
also I haven't eaten anything in more than 12 hours because i have a surgery today

also you are a nigger lover and i don't care about your opinions HA!
>>690774100
and are you not aware that there have already been rulings on whether or not the 2nd amendment is interpreted as personal gun ownership and it was upheld? fuck yourself underaged fagot

>>690774271
switzerland did it. it worked out pretty well for them

>>690774271
Only arm those who are COMPETENT, STABLE, and WILLING.

>>690774317
I'm not arguing with you. I'm giving you a link you may want to use in the future. You're honestly retarded, dude. I'm going back to /k/

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>>690774317
Is the surgery to remove cancerous tumors from your brain?

>>690774426
So how are you going to do that?

>>690774541
fuck off faggot
you don't understand the constitution at a basic level but you lurk and post on /k/?

why am i not surprised even a little bit?

>>690774609
nah it's a simple adenoidectomy that they do on children but i need as an adult

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>>690772313
>And how is a bunch of good old boys a well-regulated militia?

The militia represents the people, dipshit

>>690774784
meant for

>>690772789

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>>690772789
You dont understand what well regulated meant in that context huh?

>>690774643
I gave you a link where a court ruled that the militia isn't the military, an argument anti gun people use all the time. You turn it into me somehow being anti gun. Bravo

>>690774971
i didn't read your stupid link
next time explain yourself other than giving people random links and thinking they will make your point for you

you really do belong on /k/

>>690775200
You honestly shouldn't be posting if you can't form an actual thought or read shit people give you correctly. You give us a bad name

>>690775314
This.
>>690775200
Calm down bro, you might be hurting more than helping

>>690775200
>random links
he linked you a courts ruling on the matter, your immediate dismissal of that shows how ignorant you are regarding the matter.
You shouldn't be debating things you don't understand, go educate yourself.

>>690775200
Come on man I'm anti-gun but you should leave now

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>>690775314
>>690775409
>>690775477
>us
i am bored of you fags

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>>690775627
You are an idiot and that is why you are voting for an idiot

>>690775627
>gets called out
>hurr im bored
Ok man, move along and let the adults talk.

>>690774317
I hope you die from sepsis. Not because you support Trump or your opinions or political views, but because I have the right to think and hope for and believe whatever I want. America is already great faggot.

>>690775877
Voting for Trump because fuck Hilary.
Also Putin likes Trump so why shouldn't we?

>>690775877
I am almost sure that Donald Trump has a higher IQ than the average /b/tard. Not that IQ is the absolute defining factor of how smart someone is but your memes will only get you so far kid

come this January you will have to address him as MR. PRESIDENT

>>690776146
#bernieorbust faggot

>>690776058
>America is already great faggot.
it's just a slogan m80. do you know how those work?

>>690776214
You don't have to address the president as "Mr. President"

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>>690776214
Donald Trump speaks at a 4th grade level and I doubt he could pass a high school econ test let alone lead a country

>>690775877
You know very well that no matter how absolute a rule/law is, the exception will always be rich people.

>>690776361
If you're a corrupt fuck yeah

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>>690776351
okay.. and this is coming from?
i would like your credentials and to know where you went to school and approximately how many businesses you have had start and fail and start again.

>none?
okay then

>>690776229
I want you to vote for Bernie, whenever someone tells me they're a Bernie support I encourage them to go out and vote. This will ensure Trumps Victory by splitting the Democratic party in two.

>>690776526
I went to a very good charter academy and I've been accepted to Davis for electrical engineering

>>690776530
the DNC is already in shambles despite the massive amount of damage control 24/7 from the jew media

essentially you have
1) idiots who were going to vote for crooked hillary anyways
2) idiots who were going to vote for sanders but now can't
3) children and other assorted idiots
it doesn't look well for them at this point

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>>690776214
>I am almost sure that Donald Trump has a higher IQ than the average /b/tard

>almost sure
There's a great thing called the Internet you can use to look up his IQ

>>690776351
>Donald Trump speaks at a 4th grade level
That's because you can only understand what he says at a 4th grade level ("DAS RACIST")

>>690776530
Isn't Trump currently splitting the Republican party?

>>690776774
okay that's awesome bro.
you are like a totally average citizen who will never be regaled for anything by anyone

at least moomy and daddy are proud of you, right?
>>690776804
>>I am almost sure that Donald Trump has a higher IQ than the average /b/tard
>>almost sure
>There's a great thing called the Internet you can use to look up his IQ
exactly you fucking faggot... i know Trump has a decent IQ but I don't know what "the average /b/tard IQ is...." can you use google to look that up you fucking faggot nigger?

>>690776804
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-speeches-reading-level_us_56e9899fe4b0b25c9184183f

>>690776774
>been accepted
Kek. Enjoy your freshman year m8, that is if you can handle it.

>>690776941
you mean bringing independents and disenfranchised sanders supporters who won't vote for crooked hillary?
why yes, he is doing that

>>690776961
>huffingtonpost

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this guy is the heir apparent to a Trump win.

>>690776961
>unironically citing huffpo
Wew

>>690772313
What militia have you signed up into, and what state appointed individual or organization regulates it?

>>690777029
I've already done a lot of my freshman work at a local CC, freshman Chem, Calc, Physics. I think I'm prepared

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"Daddy, you're the greatest"

>>690776959
>I don't know what "the average /b/tard IQ is
Take a wild fucking guess, moron. Do you think people here are smart to be close enough to Trump's IQ? WEW.

>almost sure

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>3% of a population can overthrow a govt.

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>>690777085
actually this is
>>690777183
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

>>690777251
I can guess that you are a raging faggot.

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>>690772313
Noah Webster, one of our esteemed Founding Fathers from Connecticut:

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.” – Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

>>690777188
>he thinks CC will prepare him
Please stop lol. Youre gonna kill me man

>>690772313
I'm curious, since I tend to see a lot of antisemitism in these threads it's made me wonder... How many of you folks consider yourselves as Christians?

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>>690777080
>>690777111
autists.

>>690773040
>internet toughguy detected.

Seriously consider ending your own life.

>>690777388
>I can guess that you are a raging faggot.
>you

>>690776959
>exactly you fucking faggot
>can you use google to look that up you fucking faggot nigger?

>>690777609
>consider yourselves as Christians?
i am a roman catholic

>>690777777 get

>>690772313
kek

>>690772313

They were not dealing with sattelite tracking, thermal imaging, drones, tanks, APC's, chemical and bio weapons and god knows what else. Take your bolt action musket and fuck off, queer

>>690772313
>A well regulated militia

What the fuck do you think the National Guard is?

Fucking idiot.

>>690777634
>thinking it still matters
The only sorta realiable news source on your cap is newsweek, and even then they have became a gossip rag. One of those is a blog, two are boston sites, one is salon, one is the notoriously left wing politico. But yeah we are autistic m8

>>690777917
a state funded militia... NOT the people
>fucking idiot

>>690777634
Maybe it's because his speeches aren't scripted you dumb fuck. He talks in a straight-forward manner off the cheek rather than reading something pre-written

>>690777892
Seems like Afghanistan did fine against that

>>690772313
If that hat was being worn this picture would be perfect.

>>690777322
'A well regulated militia being necessary for a free state, the government shall not infringe upon the states' right to maintain arms and train its populace in their use in coherent, organized groups led by the state'
or alternatively,
"The right for a citizen to join the American armed forces will not be infringed."
That's what it ACTUALLY means. The current "guns for everywun" interpretation began in the past 50 years.
Read some more;
Paul Finkelman, "A Well Regulated Militia": The Second Amendment in Historical Perspective,

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>>690777917
>liberals actually think this

>t. moron

>>690777634

In the image you posted, some autists are claiming that Donald Trump talks like a fourth grader, yet he was able to become a successful billionaire without any help, what does that say about the retards who are criticizing him? Are they on the intellectual level of a 6-month-old, or possibly an unborn fetus?

>>690778063
>State funded

>Using tax dollars procured from the people and staffed by volunteers

>Somehow completely different

I stand by my previous statement.

Idiot.

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>>690777183
The people are the militia and regulated in the 18th century did not reference oversight but instead, mechanical function. Well regulated means that the free people not only privately own their arms but are qualified in their use, in other words, marksmanship.

>>690778106
Stop making fun of people with disabilities. You wordist bastards make fun of the reading challenged too much as it is.

>>690778246
I wear my hat everyday... do you want me to take a cute selfie or something?
>>690778321
nope... actually no.. none of that. NO
>>690778391
you can stand by whatever you want sweet cheeks.
but the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. and don't forget it

>>690778321
Oh yeah is that what it means? Can you cite where the founding fathers said they just meant people could join the arm forces? Kek are you being serious?

>>690778021
No shit a conservative site wouldn't talk about it. The people who did the studies used neutral testing methods. And it doesn't take a fucking genius to realize trump talks like a neanderthal

>>690778539
I think he might not be trying to pull a ruse in which case he needs a fucking CT scan

>>690778321
No. You're reading to fit your bias. Former anti-gun here.

>>690778339
And I quote:

Local militias were formed from the earliest English colonization of the Americas in 1607. The first colony-wide militia was formed by Massachusetts in 1636 by merging small older local units, and several National Guard units can be traced back to this militia. The various colonial militias became state militias when the United States became independent. The title "National Guard" was used from 1824 by some New York State militia units, named after the French National Guard in honor of the Marquis de Lafayette. "National Guard" became a standard nationwide militia title in 1903, and specifically indicated reserve forces under mixed state and federal control from 1933.

The first thing I would recommend to make your country better is that most of its inhabitants go on a diet

>>690778546
And that matters how? Ill concede that he does ramble and can sound pretty awful, but why does it matter? Are you pontificating everytime you talk with your select companions of your peer group?

>>690778106
No other candidate was ranked so low, speech written or not. And when he does do scripted speeches, he looks glazed over as fuck. He has no idea what he is saying

>>690778753
>americans are fat
>classic
Damn anon, i busted a rib with that tummy tickler. You in stand up?

>>690778523
Oh, it's being infringed alright.

How old are you by the way?

I ask because you sound like the kind of fag who would have supported Ronald Reagan (a man who imposed several large bans on firearm ownership and firearm importation).

>>690778539
"The debaters never sought to clarify the meaning of the words “to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” But, the overwhelming tenor of the debate is that the Congressmen perceived this discussion as concerning only the militia. The last clause, providing an exemption for pacifists, fits with this understanding. Nowhere in the debate is there the slightest hint about a private or individual right to own a weapon. This should not surprise us, for as one of the leading military historians of the period notes, “In all the discussion and debates” over the Second Amendment, “from the Revolution to the eve of the Civil War, there is precious little evidence that advocates of local control of the militia showed an equal or even a secondary concern for gun ownership as a personal right. The records of the state courts and legislatures for this period reflect this conclusion, as numerous courts accepted the notion that to “bear arms” was a term solely connected to the militia and the military. As the Tennessee Supreme Court noted in 1840 reflecting years of experience in the American colonies and states, “the object, then, for which the right of keeping and bearing arms is secured is the defence of the public. The court further noted that

A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he has a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane.
Despite the failure of the House to explore the meaning of the term “bear arms,” this first draft does give us an important insight into the meaning of the term to “bear arms.”

>>690778134

There were rules of engagement there. In an all out civil the war the government would throw everything against you and kill you.

>>690778812
And obama cant say five words without saying "...uh..."

>>690778989
"Some modern commentators try to separate this term from the first clause of the Second Amendment--“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free States”--and argue for an independent federal right to carry (bear) guns. But, the text of the initial draft shows that this is not what the term “bear arms” meant at the time. Rather, the term can only have meaning if it is connected to militia service. Otherwise, the last clause of the proposed amendment--“but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms”--would have had no meaning at all. Since no states at the time required people to carry weapons for personal use, it would have *228 been absurd to declare that “religiously scrupulous” people could not be “compelled to bear arms,” if “bear arms” only meant carrying weapons. No state at the time, nor any state before, had ever compelled people to carry weapons in their private capacity. Rather, state governments had only compelled people to carry weapons--to bear arms--as part of their militia duty. Thus, the term “bear arms” in the final amendment, if understood as it was at the time of the drafting, could only have been seen in the context of military service."
Paul Finkelman, "A Well Regulated Militia": The Second Amendment in Historical Perspective, Pages 226 to 228

>>690779002
Haha, PR much

>>690778385
It doesn't take brains to be a ruthless, competitive thug. Plus he was born with wealth and connections. He isn't prepared to be president

>>690778908
I stand up a lot, unlike most americans

>>690778682
Shhh anon, Trump kiddies don't understand, you'll just rile their butthurt.

>well regulated militia
you can regulate gun control and still be within the constitution

>>690772313

hey nigger, your faggot deadbeat trump is out of money, good luck kekekekek

Actual opinion:

Handguns, shotguns, and hunting rifles and such should be legal.

Shit like AR 15, SCAR, AKs... the easily convertible high capacity mag assault weapons should be much more heavily regulated.

Background checks and waiting periods need to be mandatory for all sales. People on watch lists shouldn't be able to buy a fucking hole punch at staples

>>690772789
>Well regulated meme
Well regulated just meant "in good working order." A nice pocket watch or clock could be well regulated.

Even if that wasn't true, the Milita Act defines the militia as both the National Guard as well as all Males between 17 and like 35. Equal protection means that it applies to females as well.

>>690778769
People were saying he was a genius

>>690779121
>turned 1 million into 10 billion
>brainless

What's your excuse? Why aren't you a millionaire?

>>690778954
>How old are you by the way?
24
>I ask because you sound like the kind of fag who would have supported Ronald Reagan
a man who ran for president in the 1980s
yeah i wasn't alive back then so i wouldn't go making those kind of assumptions...

funny enough one of my gun-supporting cousins shared a jewbook meme about ronald reagan's quote on gun control and how he supported 2nd amenement but wanted to ban assault weapons... he was fighting commies... so i can see that as an easy PR stunt... would i have known that then if i lived in the 80s?

who the fuck is to say? you are an idiot for making that some kind of point...
>blah blah i bet you would have voted for hitler anon because X, Y,Z

When combined with the federalist/anti-federalist documents, the 2nd is so clear we should be arguing about there not being enough public ranges, not whether or not to ban the most popular and common rifles that exist.

It's so ass backward it's embarrassing.

>>690772313
>"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

This statement means that states have the right to form military units for protection at the local government level, and it also states that citizens have the right to bear arms for self-defense as well. The Federalist Papers even clarify this.....why do liberals have such a difficult time comprehending this?

>>690778989
>>690779057
Complete and utter nonsense. The 2nd ammendment even in context, shows that the people have the right to bear arms. You are citing some silly ninnie who is trying to twist history towards his way. Did you know james madison let a private ship owner put cannons on his private boat because of pirates? Yeah, they wanted the people to have arms get outta here

>>690779164
Oh zig
Haha
Classic anon

>>690779012
You'll see trump doing that a lot when he has to talk about more complicated issues, or he'll avoid critical thought by rambling

>>690779312

Too bad he's never proven he has 10bn, and he still hasn't released his taxes - probably because he's a coward hiding the fact that he's BROKE.

>>690779278
In business sure

>>690772313
High caliber magazine-fed personal assault weapons did not exist in the 18th century.

If we were still talking about fucking muskets and the like that take five minutes to load and fire each shot, maybe I'd agree with you.

I bet you more than anything, if the Founding Fathers could see the kind of firepower available today they'd probably have some fucking reservations.

Fag.

>>690779312
1 million in late 60s/early 70s money is about the same as 10 billion today

>>690779510
Yeah and obama does it when he has a teleprompter

>>690779458
You realize that every ammendment was supposed to be examined and CHANGED AS TIME CHANGED THE COUNTRY?

That's also in the Constitution. The need for change over time. Legislators have every right to fuck with any ammendment they want.

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>>690779518
If you say so

>>690779605
they were also talking about sabres and gunpowder pistols but i cant carry a sword on my person in public faggot. why is that?

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>>690778682
Militia represents anyone able to join the militia AKA the people. I would be part of the militia in the instance the government were to go against citizens

Well regulated just means the people have weaponry that's updated and at least on-par with what the military utilises. It means that citizens are at least properly trained and in proper working order.

>>690779266
Quiet anon, no one values sane, reasonable responses here.

>>690779739
Because they don't make sword belts over 58 inches?

>>690779720

Oh my fucking god, stop gobbling trumps tiny cock...all he needs to do is release his taxes...why is that so fucking hard to do?

HE'S A COWARD JUST FACE IT

>>690779816
nope try again

>>690779691
I bet none of the conservatives will bitch about Trump using a teleprompter, as he is doing so more and more often

>>690779704
Proof? Oh wait you are coting a quote by jefferson? Mmm sorry that doesnt make it in the Constitution. Show me in the Constitution where it says this and ill agree, but hint: dont show me some silly interpretation of something.

>>690779864
...66 inches?

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>>690779266
Because assault weapons don't exist.

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>>690779835
Whatever you gotta do to protect your feelings

>>690779739
lolwat? You can't? I carry a general utility knife with me often and no bats an eye.

>>690779875
he does it very rarely. every one of his rallies have been off the cuff
go away
>>690779939
oh wow you so funneh. but seriously you can't answer the question with logic? you are just going to shitpost like a drooling nigger?

why can't i carry a sword on my person?

>>690779931
You want me to use hard wording to counter your silly interpretation?

Seems legit...

>>690779458
That's the whole point: Bear Arms did not mean 'to carry them' or 'to own them'. It meant 'to take part in official military service', whether by national military or state militia.
1840, Supreme court ruling: "A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms;"
The Founding Fathers wanted an armed NATION, with individual states capable of forming coherent and effective combat units out of their people. They could not have cared less about INDIVIDUALS carrying arms.

>>690779975

this is retarded, you can buy lighter triggers for an AR that make the rate of fire way faster, fucking nigger learn anything about guns

>>690780045
>carry a general utility knife
>under certain inches
blade can't be like x,y,z butterfly knives etc. etc.

I SAID SWORDS FAGGOT
why can't i carry a sabre like the framers did?

>>690780042

if he ever does release his tax returns you'll see how completely broke and pathetic he is, i bet you any amount of money

>>690779272
bless

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Hey faggots, a crazy man who lives down your street stabbed a toddler with his kitchen knife. Get ready to hand over all your knives for the sake of safety and harmony :)

>>690779780
Move to Sweden then (I think it was Sweden, somewhere in the Netherlands) where they have each household maintain and own an assault weapon and train them in their for just such an occasion.

>>690780193
Any amount of money? How about 10 billion?

>>690780057
What silly interpretation? Listen m8, show me in the Constitution where it says we need to change it every few years. Show me.

>>690780173
The fuck you need a sword for?

(Aside for compensate for your tiny cock).

>>690779266

Hunting rifles are used as sniper rifles by the military, and everyone knows that the sniper rifle is the most feared and deadly of all personal weapons in a combat zone....and they are often used in mass shootings and shooting sprees.....remember the Beltway Sniper? And hunting rifles are used to do just that.....hunt, then kill, living things.

Handguns are used in 95% of all homicides.

Shotguns are the most popular long gun used in murders, and are commonly used in mass murders....such as the DC Navy Yard shooting, Columbine etc,..

So, why are they singling out the AR-15, the gun that is least used in crimes?

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>>690779704
No, it isn't you dumb fuck. It's not a living document. The living document idea came about post-WWII.

>>690780381

you don't have it - i would legit bet you at least $5k though

>>690780067
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOwy9OWfnAM

>>690780505
You have 5k? Prove it. Release your tax returns to me. Why is that so fucking hard to do?

Don't be a coward

>>690777183
> What militia
The United States Militia.
> have you signed up into
You don't have to sign up, it's all able-bodied males 17-45.
> and what state appointed individual or organization regulates it?
The President.

>>690780474
>The fuck you need a sword for?
that isn't the point you lazy cock gobbler

this started (and you probably are different anon anyways but fuck it) with the lazy liberal argument of "but but muh constitution was for muskets and shiiet"

it was also for swords and "arms" that people carried at the time.
but now it is completely illegal for me to walk around with a sheathed sword...... and liberals are just as dumb as they every were.

getting stripped of rights one by one
even stripping speech rights for so-called safe spaces. absolutely disgusting

>>690772313
>Fag thinks "bearing arms" should literally mean being allowed to carry a kitted out assault rifle around town whenever you feel like it, into stores etc.

K.E.K.

>>690780096
I've built my own ARs and I promise you, a gas operating, direct impingement rifle with an auto sear is orders of magnitude faster than a light trigger break. Obviously you have never fired a rifle that operates with a disconnector, that requires being reset by releasing the take-up in the trigger.

>>690780814
yes. what's the problem pussy? are you a criminal who doesn't want to get shot when you commit crimes?

>>690780343
That's Switzerland not Sweden, and Sweden isn't "somewhere in the Netherlands" ..

>>690780767
If you can find a domestic seller of battle-ready swords you get a cookie.

>>690781026
you are dumb as rocks aren't you?
honestly you don't deserve these rights if you won't bother to learn, respect, or even protect them.

>>690780949
>Tiny dick inferiority complex detected.

>>690780474
What do people need tobacco for? What do they need fast food for? What about video games? Movies? What 'need' does anyone have for entertainment based private property.

Need isn't the question. The right to OWN is in question. I have a lot of things I don't need for my survival. I still have a right to purchase and own them.

>>690781186
>literal terrorist or illegal alien detected.
you will have to go back, paco

>>690781186
>i cant quit thinking about other guys penises and their size

>>690779266
>scar, aks
These kinds of weapons are ALREADY heavily regulated. The next step is outright banning them. Citizens can get assault weapons, but they need to go through many steps and pay taxes for it

>Background checks
Don't really work for stopping mass shootings

>waiting periods
How would this stop gun crime?

Most gun related homicides are from handguns because they are cheap, simple to use, easy to conceal, and easily obtained illegally

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>>690780067
> All able bodied men, 17 to 45 of age, are ultimately eligible to be called up into military service and belong to the class known as the reserve militia, also known as the unorganized militia (10 USC). Able bodied men who are not eligible for inclusion in the reserve militia pool are those aliens not having declared their intent to become citizens of the United States (10 USC 311) and former regular component veterans of the armed forces who have reached the age of 64 (32 USC 313). All female citizens who are members of National Guard units are also included in the reserve militia pool (10 USC 311). They have the right to keep and bear arms. This right may not be infringed.

>>690781198
Your argument is fucking retarded. You can't kill someone with a movie or a video game you blathering autist.

Don't get me wrong, I own several firearms, but I'm not okay with the idea of a faggot like you owning an assault rifle "cuzz it looks kewl, lel"

Fuck on off back to /k/

>>690781482
are you quoting from the bill of RIGHTS? no faggot?
okay you can leave whenever

>>690781482
I sincerely doubt anyone in this thread can be seriously considered "able-bodied"

>>690781482
So i can only have a gun until im 64?

>>690781520
>i am okay with this for me
>i am not okay with that for you
guess it's a pretty good thing that these types of decisions aren't ultimately left up to you, huh?

i bet you think you are "conservative"

>>690778246
but then you would see his neckbeard

>>690781520
>no mention of tobacco or fast food
Hey faggot, guess what; anon is free to purchase anything he wants as, and there isnt a damn thing you can do but bitch.

>>690781691
Unspecified. This states who has the right, not who is forbidden.

>>690781788
I bet you believe in the all mighty celestial jew

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>>690781691
That just says what the militia is

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Serious question for those who support an assault rifle ban; If you had to choose one of these guns to ban, which one would you choose, and why?

>>690781520
Then your argument has to be that people are responsible for the crimes they might commit or others have committed. Why should I, a man who has committed no crimes, be punished for the crimes others have committed? I'll spoil it for you. I'm not responsible for them.

Then why would I be responsible for crimes that I MAY commit? Since the power to see the future is yet in our grasp, we conclude that I'm NOT responsible for things I might do.

Those are the only two arguments that have any bearing on my rights as an individual. And because I as an individual have the means to purchase a weapon of my choosing, that means I have the right to keep them.

And if you turned on your brain for a moment, you'd realize that my argument was only to defeat the use of the word 'need'. 'Need', in the context of ownership, is irrelevant because it has no bearing on right to own.

>>690782018
Gonna ban the smaller one because it's more concealable.

>>690781983
actually i hate jews for the most part and i hate you for now reminding me of their existence
i bet you think you are "conservative" huh? you have already proved yourself an SJW twat

>>690782018
Bottom one because it destroyed a classic SKS and bullpups are gay

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>>690781520
Knives are used to kill people. Do you really NEED a knife?

>>690782127
If you consider yourself a christian, you are a complete fucking hypocrite.

>>690772313
>well regulated
So like limits on high capacity magazines, closing the gun show loophole, waiting periods, and mandatory mental and criminal background checks?

>>690781997
So your picture states that in 2008 the supreme court recognized the invidiuals right to have arms, so what is with the militia shit youre posting?

>>690782018
ban the lower one because of the shit-awful SKS detachable magazine mod

>>690782234
Well, knives should be illegal too.

>>690782291
"lol.... n-n-not th-that anon!!!"

>>690772313
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
why not?`?

>>690782281
oh yeah? do tell.
i bet you will drop the whole "jesus was a jew" deal next amirite?
why do you think jews resent him so much?

>>690782365
How about rocks? They're petty hard and some are really sharp. There's a lot of bludgeoning crimes.

>>690782301
I was saying that the other post was defining what the militia was, but that you don't necessarily have to be a part of the militia to own guns since the SC ruled that the people have the right to keep and bear arms, not solely the militia. Sorry if that wasn't clear, I was answering the guy who was asking if he could only have a gun until age 64

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>>690782291
>tfw you realize the founding patriarchy was pro gun control
Cum unrelated

>>690782571
Everyone should only be allowed a crude bow and arrow.

>>690779272
Egads - a reasoned response - thanks!
Although the first "hurr-durr" response was quite asmusing.

>>690782365
but don't stop there anon! we will have to start registering fists as deadly weapons too
>PROGRESS

>>690782647
Gotcha

>>690782666
Satan why you so ignorant?

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>>690782291
>doesn't know what well-regulated means in the context of the second amendment

>high cap mags
Irrelevant. People can reload in 5 seconds and continue killing, they are heavy, and sometimes unreliable. They aren't solely used for killing, lots of people just like using them at ranges so they don't reload every 10 seconds

>mental checks
These don't work and passing them is easy as fuck. Bipolar people get guns all the time. Sociopaths can lie to all the questions and seem normal.

>>690782119
>>690782140
>>690782309

Since the question was very clear that only anti-gun advocates should answer the question, let me ask you this; Why do you support an assault rifle ban?

>>690773538
Yes but they have stated that states are free to put certain limitations on gun ownership for safety reasons

>>690782522
Good goy, praise the almighty jew prince king of the universe!

Protip: It was the "pagan" Roman government that killed Jesus, not the Jews

>>690783060
OK

>>690783206
you seem upset and confused
not sure why.

>>690783054
There's no such thing as an assault weapon. That's politispeak.
I'm anti-gun because guns only empower people to kill, and there is no reason to empower people to kill, and so no need for guns. The question was also very clear that I had to pick one, and could not pick both.

>>690783342
people have been killing people since there have been people
go be a smelly hippie somewhere else

>>690783316
>you seem upset and confused

Your intuition could use a little improvement.

>>690779605
Girando rifle was introduced in like 1779
Puckle gun was 100yrs before that
Gatling guns had already been demonstrated.

It was literally legal to buy a cannon and warship. When Madison was buying his privateering vessel he asked permission from the government and their response was "why the fuck would we not let you own a warship?"

If you could show the founding fathers the AR-15, the first thing that they'd ask would be if they could have 10,000 for their militia.

Fuk u mayne

>>690783444
Indeed they have. And I think it should happen less, not more. If I could ban rocks and knives, I would. Leave your guns behind at the target range. Leave your knives behind in the kitchen. Leave your rocks behind in the ... wherever the fuck people use rocks for legitimate purposes.

>>690783342
Same here. I also think candy should be illegal because all it does is encourage people to overeat and become obese. That's why nobody should be allowed to eat anything over 500 calories in one sitting. If they do, enjoy jail.

>>690783444
People like you should be forced to live in the middle east. See what "lol guns 4 every1" really gets you.

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>>690783342
>so no need for guns

What about a guy wanting to kill you?

>>690783722
I want to ban those too.

>>690783806
BAN NIGGERS

>>690783722
>>690783806
And yes, that means no niggers allowed, sand or otherwise.

>>690783516
oh yea? shitpost some more and we shall see
>>690783653
>if i could ban rocks and knives i would
okay you are just dumb. simply a dumb person and i am op and i am asking you to leave the thread now
>>690783697
wow so progressive. if i were an inhabitant of the middle east i would relish the fact that i could easily obtain a high powered rifle indirectly from the source that will fuckup or depose my own government

>>690783722
Why a guy want to kill me? What shithole do you live in where this is a reality and/or common?

>>690783594
How is the Puckle or Gatling even remotely relevant pertaining to a single person?

The fuck is a "Girando rifle"? I'm finding fuck all about it.

>>690784042
Islam wants to kill you for not living in their shithole where this is reality and/or common.

>>690783653
>If I could ban rocks and knives

You going to ban every object capable of killing others?

>>690783691
You're allowed to kill yourself, faggot. You can't force someone to eat candy and any machine that forces someone to should be illegal just like every machine that forces people to eat lead.

>>690784232
Including various types of niggers, yes.

>>690784232
You're being trolled you fucking moron, stop replying for fuck sakes.

>>690784460
Thankfully, forcing someone to eat lead is already illegal, you fucking moron.

>>690784149
He's saying that the government knew of weapons that fired multiple rounds without reloading, and still didn't ban them. A common citizen could buy cannons for Christ's sake.

>>690780718

uh fine, one minute...i have nothing to hide lol

>>690783444
>"lol, people have been killing since the beginning of tiem"!!!

>This is perfectly fine and nothing should be done to curb it

>>690784699
Thus we know everyone who owns a gun is planning to break that law. Owning the machine is their admission of it.

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>>690784917
>This is perfectly fine and nothing should be done to curb it

It's being curbed. Gun control isn't curbing it.

>>690784917
Because banning guns and drugs worked so well right? R-right?

>>690777634
>believes webtraffic hungry media sites
>autists.

>>690772313
>"If dey's taek muh guns, I'll nevah git to reenact Red Dawn!!! OH NOES"!!

>>690779272
>the Milita Act defines the militia as both the National Guard as well as all Males between 17 and like 35.

Waitaholdit. I'm reading the act right now.
http://legisworks.org/sal/32/stats/STATUTE-32-Pg775.pdf

First off, it's between 18 and 45. Second, those males are required to be in a Reserve Militia. It also says that with some exceptions, everybody has to be in a militia. It also refers to being uniformed.

Now that there are no militias (or?), having delegate military authority and duties to the feds, I don't see any uniformed state militias. So how is owning a gun and not being in a militia a *constitutional* right? (and this Militia thing was brought up in 1903 - not exactly a Founding Father deal).

>>690784980
There are approx. 300 million guns in the USA. Why don't we see 300 million gun murders every year?

>>690785124
I do not support banning drugs. People can do whatever they want to themselves as far as I care. If you made a gun that could only shoot the guy using it, I'd allow that and not ban it.

>>690784917
Taking away guns doesnt fix that nor curb it
Unless you can disarm the entire population of the planet and the art of making weapons dissapears there will always be guns, always

>>690772313
You all always skip over the "well regulated" part.

"A well regulated militia" this was written when we had muskets and no police force, it was meant as a way for communities to defend themselves against outside threat. It is now not needed (as much) as it was then since we had a police force. (This is coming from an avid hunter & gun owner)

>>690785230
Because the gun to gun owner ratio is greater than one.

>>690785389
Then why aren't there 100 million gun crimes every year? 50 million? 1 million? 500 thousand?

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Just got my official MAGA hat this week

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>>690785515
because 50% of all gun crime is commmitted by blacks, who are 14% of the US' population

>>690785788
That didn't even come close to being a response to my question

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>>690785344
>This is coming from an avid hunter & gun owner
This doesn't give you any authority, and just makes you a fudd

>police force
Pic related, the Supreme Court has ruled multiple times cops have no duty to protect citizens. They exist solely to enforce the law and keep order

>muskets
Where is the word muskets in the 2nd amendment? By that logic the 1st amendment doesn't apply to television or the internet since they weren't around when the Bill of Rights was drafted

>>690785890
the answer is, being black makes you kill people, not guns make people kill people

690785344

Okay then that means the 1st amendment only applies to the printing press and no Internet. Faggot.

>>690785870
>Reproduction rate

>Orientals

>Lower

I'm fairly certain that they're the most numerous people on the planet.

>>690785515
You're doing your math wrong. Most people get to do one murder in their life. So you divide the number of guns (guns in gun owner hands, that is, you have to subtract out the ones in government custody and on store shelves) by the product of the number of guns the average gun holder has and the average actuarial of gun owners.
And voila, you have a figure shockingly close to the number of gun crimes in the US per annum.

>>690786117
that's because stupid niggers in Africa breed like cockroaches until they don't have enough water to drink, and they start dying out until some retarded humanitarian mission comes from the USA to spread Christianity or Mormonism, temporarily saving them from their overpopulation crisis until the missionary leaves and they keep breeding unsubstainably.

>>690786271
There are 200 million guns in private possession in the USA. That means not in government hands. Please show me the math you used and the final figure

>>690786470
Better idea. You show it.

>>690786271
>So you divide the number of guns (guns in gun owner hands, that is, you have to subtract out the ones in government custody and on store shelves

Please post a citation for this number

>the product of the number of guns the average gun holder has

Citation?

>the average actuarial of gun owners.

Citation

>the number of gun crimes in the US per annum.

And what is that number?

>>690786543
Show you that there aren't 200 million gun crimes every year?

>I have this calculation that proves you're wrong
>Okay, show it
>No you do it

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>>690772313
You misspelled "Make America WHITE Again".