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No one needs an assault rifle. Debate me: you will lose.
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Take away assault rifle.
Nobody have assault rifle.
No need assault rifle.

Currently:
People have assault rifle.
We need assault rifle.
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>>690408840
No one needs religion. Pesky ole Constitution, giving people things they dont need.
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>>690408840
Do you have sand in your vagina sugar
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I am standing 5 feet away and about to shoot you with my assault rifle.
What do, OP?
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Better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it
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>>690408840
they're really handy for killing lots of people in a short amount of time.

But you're right, that's more of a want than a need.
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>>690409320
/thread
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>>690408840
Define "assault rifles"
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>>690408840
Does even posting a picture of an 'assault rifle' give you PTSD?
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>>690408840
>no one needs
No one needs anything besides food, water, air, shelter, and clothing. EVERYTHING else is a desire, a want. Guns are not some special catagory.
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But what if my pens is tiny? Like really, really tiny and I can't afford a big pick-up truck?
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>>690409288
I disarm you because you're too close
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>>690409511
a rifle used for assaults?
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>>690409288
Why do you have an assault rifle?
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No one gives a fuck what you think. There you lost.
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Imagine a place where everyone was packing. Any loon can get a mass killing weapon. I'm not saying ban all guns but things like that should be regulated. Pistols are ok, but killing-machines, no way.
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i have one for people like you.. when the world goes to shit.. your gonna want to eat.. u will kill to ..you but not my food... you will not touch my family.. i will destroy you. Is there anything wrong with that?
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>>690408840
>No one needs an assault rifle.
You're correct. I just want mine.
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>>690409899
>mass killing weapon.
>Pistols are ok
You are the reason why your mother cries every night.
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>>690410042
This
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>>690408840
>no one needs an assault rifle
cool. try asking a soldier to take down a stronghold of terrorist sandniggers with pepper-spray and a taser.
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>>690409931
Finally someone that just admits it instead of making up bullshit arguments like all the other gun toting meatheads.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0
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You are right. Let's begin by removing assault rifles from the 100 million children now in posession of AK 47s around the world.

Oh but you don't want to do that. Ypu pnly want to disarm the US.

So your argument doesn't hold water and you lose.
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>>690408840
What's an "assault" rifle? There is no gun category by that name.
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>>690408840
>>690409511
>>690409627
>>690409899
What do you think the difference is between a rifle with 30 rounds and two pistols with 15 rounds each?

Apart from the fact that you could hide the pistols more easily.

Also, calling one specific thing an "assault rifle" makes you sound stupid. If you are talking about a military rifle, say that. Otherwise, the word "assault" is redundant.
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>>690408840
>no one needs
good job anon. you are winner by default

>no one should own
this argument is situational, and you would lose by default concerning anywhere it is not illegal to own.
but you wouldnt post that bland shit for bait
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you city fags that never shot a gun need to get off the comp more and live a little..you can noy buy a "killing machine" if you have any problem with the law... most of us are clean nice citizens that would protect you with our guns if you needed it.. why do you hate guns..?? you should hate muslims who want to kill you
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>>690410211
So retarded. It would suck too have your state of mind and just be you as a person. You wouldn't know that though, ya know, because of that state of mind you have.
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Nobody need to eat at Mcdonalds. People still do anyway.
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>>690409627
Then a bb gun rifle can be one too. Hell, one can be assaulted by a Nerf rifle.
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>>690410211
Strawman argument. Also, OP never mentioned the US. You lose.
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No one needs a pressure cooker. Debate me: you will lose.
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assault weapon not an assault rifle. assault rifles are illegal for civilians and used in the military
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The superior assault rifle of the day, in the hands of citizens, beat the most powerful army on earth, ENGLAND.

2nd Ammendment wasn't for personal protection, it was for national defense and civilian defense against government out of control.

You lose yet another debate.
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>>690410245
Difference is the rifle has higher stability, a flatter trajectory, longer effective range, and greater penetration than the pistols.
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>>690410309
yes and people are stupid. which is why I'm on 4chan, this site hates other people more than any other.
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>>690408840
>No one needs an assault rifle.
No debate at all, you are right. But it's not the Bill of Needs, it's the Bill of Rights. So fuck off
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>>690409899

Yeah man. True story.
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>>690410444
Trips of truth.
Although the SCOTUS disagrees with the personal protection part
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A helpful guide, used by the media, to identify different kinds of guns.
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>>690408840

No one needs to be a whiny little bitch and yet here you are...
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im cool with the world giving up their guns, as long as mine are the last to go. disarm the muslim terrorists, disarm the gangstas, disarm the dictators and zealots, then yeah, i'll disarm too.
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>>690408840
-OP ride to Syria to a city occupied by IS
-take the Bibel from you backpack and try to read it loud on street in the middle of that city
-for about 30min to 2 h
-I take a bet you will need one
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>>690409899

Rifle are used in like 4% of all gun murders, pistols are used in over 90%.

You. fucking. Idiot.
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>>690409320
/thread
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>>690408840
To defend ourselves from all enemies foreign and domestic
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OP have you ever served in military and deployed?

Have you ever actually fired an AR?

Do you believe the government should have more power over the people?

Do you believe the police and criminal justice system is fair and true?

What are you going to arm yourself with when the fight comes to our front lines?
>Because it is, whether you want it to or not
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>>690410696
This.
Also try sneaking a fucking rifle somewhere under your clothes.
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>>690408840
It's not called the "Bill of Needs."

Gun control (in the U.S.) is an issue of violating civil liberties in the name of "safety" despite almost every proposed and/or implemented measure directly targeting law-abiding citizens while failing to dissuade or prevent those with criminal intent from acquiring a firearm.
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>>690409593
K good luck disarming the bullet in your skull too
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>>690408840

I spend six months every year in a war zone. I needs it man.
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>>690410232
>An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.[1][2][3][4][5] Assault rifles were first used during World War II. Though Western nations were slow to accept the assault rifle concept after World War II, by the end of the 20th century they had become the standard weapon in most of the world's armies, replacing battle rifles and sub-machine guns. Examples include the StG 44, AK-47 and the M16 rifle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
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>>690409559
Yeah they are. Desires have purposes. The guns is to be fired
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>>690408840
What you deem as a "need" had no bearing on a guaranteed right. Butthurt europoor detected
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"You never let a serious crisis go to waste."
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>>690409267
Stupid people and people who don't know better believe in religion as it provides an easy reason for living that doesn't have to be questioned.
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>>690410444
this says it all. gun ownership is the first thing invaders need gone before they can even consider talking shit.
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I have 2 guns. A shotgun for home defense & an AR-15. The shotgun is loaded & ready for whenever I might need it. The AR-15 is in a locked case. The only time I use AR is at the range (which isn't too often because ammo got stupid expensive) & to clean it. However, when Hurricane Sandy struck people got stupid. Their was no power for weeks & the police were busy directing traffic & dealing with chaos at gas stations. First thing I did was load a bunch mags & unlock that rifle. Felt good knowing me & my love ones were safe. Criminals will never obey laws, so why should law abiding citizens be punished?
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>>690408840
No one needs freedom of speech.
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>>690410696
I don't think a pistol could gun down 50 ppl in less than a minute. Some one with a machine gun would. I say exclude all gun is 'cause maybe if someone was armed, that wouldn't have happened.
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>>690408840
How else would I kill you with minimal time wasted on my end?
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hey fags we don't need anything but food, water, air, and shelter. there has been more people dead from swimming pools then school shootings. should we ban swimming pools because we don't fucking need them?
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>>690410444
Uh, the Revolutionary War was mostly regular American (and French) forces versus Regular British forces. The militia were a bunch of twats who retreated after two volleys in open combat.

What about the strategic advantages the Americans had over the British?
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>>690411408
>I don't think a pistol could gun down 50 ppl in less than a minute. Some one with a machine gun would.
And when was the last time a machine gun was used in a murder in the US? I'll be here waiting for your answer.
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>>690408840
No one needs an army. No one needs internet. No one needs fancy clothes. No one needs religion or a TV or shit tons of other things they use on a day to day basis. Get over it.

Fact is our constitution says that we're allowed to have them (the intent was expressly to protect us against foreign invaders and the government) and Sweden issued rifles to every single citizen during WWII and now their constitution says that the internet is a right.

I would suggest that mandating that the government PROVIDE you with internet is far more dangerous than the government ALLOWING you to have a firearm.

Discuss faggots.
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>>690408840
ITT: ignorant faggots that don't realize "assault rifle" is a made up term to describe regular rifles with pistol grips that make them look scary.

I have two of them. And a pistol. The pistol is for home defense-i have no interest in a CCL. The rifles are to overthrow the government should the need arise, which is the true purpose of the second amendment.
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>>690409320
Bitch if I had an assault rifle I would be a bad day away from finding the motherfuckers I hate and then kms.

Also
>then
Guntard spotted
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>>690410939
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms"
meme is spoopy
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>>690408840
Hey op, the 2nd amendment was made for the people to defend themselves if the go many became tyrannical. The illuminati are 13 bloodlines that have existed for a LONG time are possessed by demons and have successfully infiltrated all facets of our current reality. all of these mass shootings have been mk-ultra triggered secret soldiers. Look at sandy hook elementary, the theater shootings, über driver, jfk. Even the video game call of duty black ops (made by treyarc, or 3 arcs, triangle, 3rd eye satanic occultism,symbolism.) was about a man named "MASON" who was brainwashed to kill Jfk. They are using these events to pass laws that are taking our freedoms and rights away and disarming everyone
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>>690410147
And is there something wrong with wanting one? Not wanting to kill people with it of course.
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>>690411537
>amendanent

You ameritards know how to use your culture only to support your hurr durr opinions but can't even spell a three-syllabus word
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No one should have nuclear weapons either but I don't see you crying about that.
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Try harder
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>>690411613
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>>690409288
I'll dodge roll, with a bit of luck the immunity frame will be just enough to come close and stab you in the chest with my katana.
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>>690411408
You don't think someone can kill 50 people in a minute in an enclosed space with no escape routes? Really? I'd be surprised. The pistol can be fired as fast as the semi auto rifle.
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>>690411783
>You ameritards know how to use your culture only to support your hurr durr opinions but can't even spell a three-syllabus word
> spell a three-syllabus word
>syllabus

lol, this has to be b8
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>>690411783
You foreign bastards like giving your useless opinions on our rights
If you're not a citizen of USA, fuck off.
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>>690411783
>can't spell a three-syllabus word
>three-syllabus word
>syllabus
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>>690411408
it wasn't a minute, he had 7. you can down 50 people in a small tight space with a pistol in 7 minutes.
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>>690408840
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>>690411658
>fuck tons of ammo in the U.S vanishes
>ohbummer takes a stroll down to browntown mexico, "hey fuckers, the U.S is the reason you have the cartel, ok bye"
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>>690411613
Even if everything you've said wasn't wank. Who the fuck cares?
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Selective fire assault rifles were used in zero of america mass shootings.
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>>690408840
Fully automatic m-16 I would assume require a lot of training to control.

The AR-15 and its variants are great for hunting and 3 gun shoots.

In all honesty I don't need an assault weapon, I will stick to my AR-15 and Glock.
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My ignores is this: Why should a person on a terrorist watch list be allowed to by a killing machine? Did no one see this coming? 50 ppl dead within minutes. Why do they sell things like this.
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>>690412065

perfect point, you don't get more parallel than that
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>>690412065

Remember those magazines that guy used to kill 50 people with?

They werent the wordy kind.
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>>690408840
An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. No citizens have assault rifles. What they have are hunting rifles using a different stock.
Wood stock - not scary, deer hunter
Black stock - scary, assault rifle?

Nope, same rifle, same caliber, same everything. Learn about guns, then come back for a debate. Right now, you're unarmed for a battle of wits.
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>>690408840
What about people in the active military?
You loose, shitbrick.
/thread
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>>690412284
Due process of law. Can't strip constitutional rights without it.
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>>690412360

Don't forget about magazine capacity and ease of switching magazines too
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>>690409079
>first post
nailed it

where you at OP?
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It's called the bill of rights, not the bill of needs. Every able bodied person has the right to a modern weapon for self defense, which is a right given to every living being on this earth.

You want to save lives? Ban sports cars. Speeding kills more people yearly than any weapon, and driving is a priveledge.
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>>690412284
I can build a rudimentary bomb inside a wal-mart.

Give a man 10 days they can buy in cash enough to kill the same if not more in less time.
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>>690412360
All this. If I could own an AR in australia I would in a heartbeat for pest control.
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>>690412594
Example. Bath school disaster
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>>690412284
>watchlist
>watched
because shit like this is screaming orchestration and the guy in charge isnt against a few dead gays ending up on the news if it supports the agenda.
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Call me an idiot, retard, no nothing lunatic I don't care we should no care if you want to do a mass shooting good for if you don't even better. Don't start with that crappy come back guns don't kill people, people kill peiple. Because in the end if guns didn't exist we would come with new ways to kill. That is the true nature of our species we evolve and find new ways to improve ourselves and technology. So take away guns the death toll will go down but eventually it will come back up.
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Aren't assault rifles illegal in the US already?

I thought the only rifles you guys can get are gimped semi-automatic ones? Even the AK-47s and AR-15 on sale in the US are fake ones without fully automatic capability i.e. not actually assault rifles(?)
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>>690411408
Clearly you've never heard of the Glock-18.
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I feel like that people should undergo safe handling and storage practices before a buy. Like a first-aid course or something.

I mean it would make libtards happy and not be that big of a deal since it would most likely be run by gun clubs who are chill anyway.
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>>690410593
I want to get a new tavor x95 should I do it?
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U fuckin idiot
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>>690413085
Its the scary ones on the tv and games your children play that are the bad ones.
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>>690408840
>That moment when you realize "Assault Rifles" are only semi auto .22's
>That moment when you realize that most "Assault" rounds should only maim not kill
Keep playing into the oligarchs hands you dumb fuck
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>>690413085
correct
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Obligatory op is a faggot
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>>690408840
>A BAIT ANY MURIFAGGOT WILL TAKE
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>>690413085
They're not illegal just highly regulated. The only people that own them are rich collectors and hobbyists. They've also been responsible for zero mass shootings.
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>>690413085
>illegal
depends on the state. the license in my state is expensive if i wanted fully automatic, and i have to renew it once every 2 years or something like that, so i dont bother
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>>690413085
>Aren't assault rifles illegal in the US already?
No. They are regulated by the National Firearms Act and subject to a $200 tax and HUGE prices due to the closed registry. $8,000.00 and up for a machine gun, and 8k is for the shitty ones.
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>>690413085
Its only automatic weapons that are illegal. Though obtaining one under certain circumstances can require alot of money paid to uncle sam. Not to mention after you get done with all the paperwork and layers of approval..
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>>690413145
You mean a machine pistol which are inaccurate as fuck compared to a carbine or sub machine gun
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>>690413164
I heard they have somewhat poor accuracy for the price?
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>>690413164

I'm waiting for the Deserttech MDR personally...should be out later this year
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>>690413237
wrong
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>>690413337
>depends on the state. the license in my state is expensive if i wanted fully automatic, and i have to renew it once every 2 years or something like that, so i dont bother
Where the fuck do you live?
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>>690409899
I just imagined the U.S.
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>>690413287
>Blued GP100

Nice
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>>690412284
The dude was NOT on a terror watch list and here's the problem. He was investigated (twice) by the FBI and cleared. His father is an avid supporter of the Taliban and has spouted anti-gay rhetoric over and over (his YouTube channel is packed with anti-America crap). His wife helped plan the attack. So, this is about the GOP forcing this fuck to attack? It's about guns and not ideology?

So, tell me- again- why is this about guns and not the person who used it?
There's more- The Mateen dude went to a mosque with Moner Mohammad Abusalha, a terrorist who drove a suicide truck, packed with explosives, into a group of Syrian soldiers. They knew each other. This mosque has ties to Mideast terror groups. It was under DHS investigation until Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state ordered the investigation stopped and ALL records destroyed.
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>>690413531
why you want to know?
just google states that allow it. you can fucking trust me when i say i can get the fucking license where i am at
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To all the pro-gun ppl.: Are you hunting Grisliness bears or what?! The fact that anyone one can own a killing machine is shocking! Not to reference the recent shooting, but that could happen anywhere with just a loon. Just some common sense ppl.!
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Canadian here.

From what I understand this isnt an anti-gun vs pro-gun issue so much as it is a regulation issue on who should be able to get these type of weapons.

It seems that compared to Canada The US is practically littered with guns. Is this a cultural phenomena or a regulatory one?

I'm wondering what specifically creates this environment.
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>>690413710
>but that could happen anywhere with just a loon

You mean it could even happen in, say, Paris? Wait, so French gun laws didn't stop those terrorists from getting AK-47s and suicide vests?

SHOCKING!
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>>690413702
I live in Connecticut, one of the most highly firearm regulated states in the country and we do not have a "license and renewal every 2 years". You pay a $200 tax stamp once for the machine gun and that's it forever.
>settle down champ
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>>690413419
>only rifles you guys can get are gimped semi-automatic ones? Even the AK-47s
was trying to give the short answer instead of the 'if you have a class blah blah license or you meet this requirement or if you're in this state and do this or if you ever were responsible, etc'.
To the general public, yes, assault rifles are going to be illegal. Are they impossible to get and own? Definitely not. Meh
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>>690408840
1. This is not an assault rifle, it's a rifle.
2. We all need one, they should be mandatory.
3. You're a cuck.
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>>690408840
What if I want to assault something,I can't do that wih an inferior non-assault rifle can i,faggot
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>>690413649
The one and short answer: he had access and bout ammo to kill.
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>>690413710
i prefer using a 7mm or 300win for grizzleys.
a 223. is like another anon said, hardly different from a .22
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>>690413710
A normal round in and "assault rifle" would not even hurt a bear.

I wouldnt even Trust a .300 round to kill a bear unless I had a great shot.

Look up the actual power of an AK round and come back here a tad more educated.
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>>690413208
Pretty much this. The AR caliber is pretty fucking small compared to other rifles.
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I ned asslt rifle for ma k e booms
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>>690413888

Guns didnt stop Dylan roof or Omar Mateen either. At least not until the killing was done.
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>>690412360
One looks like Call of Duty. The other looks like your grandpa's old hunting rifle.
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>>690408840
1. This is not an assault rifle, it's a rifle.
2. We all need one, they should be mandatory.
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>>690408840
You lost before you hit post
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>>690413710
>Are you hunting Grisliness bears or what?!

An AR-15 won't kill a bear, and they are not legal in many states for deer because they are too small of caliber.

Did you know this?

My lever action 30-30 Winchester from 1894 if far more powerful, just less rounds per minute.
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>>690413895
>To the general public, yes, assault rifles are going to be illegal.
So you're reply in an argument with lies? They're not illegal like you said, they are out of reach for the common collector due to the high mark ups because of the closed registry. The worst thing you can do is give false info to gun grabbers. They will use it against you every time.
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>>690413392
Depends on where you're shooting, and if you fire in bursts. If you're in a building, you might be able to mow down quite a few people.
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>>690413710
I use a .303-25 to hunt pigs and dogs that will kill my livestock. I need that gun to maintain my job.

I can nail a dog in the head at about 500 yards. It takes me about 0.5 seconds to cycle the bolt, and if I am on the ball 1 second to reload. I could kill many people if I wanted to, but I don't like most people won't.
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>>690410423
incorrecto friendo, with enough money, and enough paperwork filled out, anyone can own a fully automatic weapon in the usa
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>>690413981
Boston Marathon. The shoe bomber. The Oklahoma federal building bombing. The World Trade Center bombing in 1993. The World Trade center attack in 2001 (along with the Pentagon and flight 93). The attack on the U.S.S. Cole. What gun laws would have prevented these?

Your argument is retarded. Muzzies will kill by any means. Most DON'T use guns.
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>>690409627
So all rifles then?
How about knives or golf clubs or anything ever used in a murder?
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>>690408840
No one also needs a big house or more than one car or that Big Mac.
Who are you to tell anyone what they need in life
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>>690412065
This is retarded. Freedom of the press is what keeps us in the know about all the nasty shit that politicians and state officials do. Without "assault rifles" and nosy asshole investigative journalists, it we would be fucking north korea.
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>>690408840
Our enemies have them and will continue to have them, so to protect ourselves you want to take ours away??

I am all for it only if you can take them ALL away, which you can not. You can not buy "assault" rifles in France, but wasn't there a shooting at a magazine publisher a couple years ago? Hummm, can not buy them in France, bad guys still had them....interesting.
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>>690409899
Everything is a killing machine moron.
They're just rifles.
They look scary, oooo be careful.
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>>690409079
Because taking them away stops criminals from having them right? That's how it works.
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>>690413873
Canada actually isn't that far behind the US in terms of gats per capita. You can even own similar stuff and can import stuff that we can't, mostly milsurp and new Slavshit.
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>>690409899
Alcohol is a killing machine. More people die from drunk driving than guns
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>>690411588
You have to be 18 to buy a gun though, so we're safe for now
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>>690414552

Well then that changes a dynamic doesnt it?

If we have almost as much, then why arent we killing as much?

It seems more and more like a cultural thing.
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>>690413893
im in alaska. i heard word of mouth that in order to possess the license, i have to fill out several forms stating im not a shadey thug, that i have taken safety shit, and that if i got the license, i would have to pay for the license and renew it every 2 years.

again, word of mouth. i never looked it up due ot lack of interest, but i see people at the range set up and let hell loose with their spendy toy.
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>>690410386
This you fucking simple minded cowards
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>>690413990
I'd trust a .300win mag to down a bear with good shot placement
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>>690408840

B-b-but muh freedom...
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>>690408840
You don't need a car, or a plane, or an extra burger, or a burger at all, or human contact, or pharmaceutical pills. Those are all much more deadly than a rifle.
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>>690408840
Terrorists need them. You lose
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>>690414676
Your population is literally 1/10th that of America. Still, it happens there. The Moncton shootings come to mind.
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>>690414676

The state of vermont is THE most lax state in America in terms of gun laws and has a murder rate that is 30% lower than Canada.

Why? Demographics. Vermont is mostly white. It's not easy to hear, but look up any FBI murder statistics. Racial demographics play the largest role in murder rates in America, moreso than economics. Poor white Americans outnumber poor blacks but blacks (13% of the US population) commit 52.5% of all homicides.
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What about videos of mass shootings? It is one of the few American things than not outsourced to china yet.
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Let the stupid Americans shoot and blow themselves, they are the worlds new asshole
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>>690414864

I would too, but bears are tough fuckers to kill sometimes.
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>>690415141
>new
kek
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>>690410939
You seem like a dumb person. Try to appreciate what these weapons are actually doing for you, they're not that bad really.
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>>690414101
I heard there are AR-15 uppers you can buy that can fire .458 SOCOM out of a standard magazine some how, that might be able to take out a bear.
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>>690415141

>8000 gun murders per year out of a population of 310,000,000

OH NOES ITS AN EPIDEMIC!
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>>690411306
This is. The reason we should all be required to own guns and be trained to use the,.
This is the reason I'm going to buy an ar15 today thanks for the inspirational thread anon.
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>>690415046
Moncton was more of an attack on the feds (RCMP) than unarmed civilians though
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>>690415556

Good choice anon. Look at the S&W M&P Sport 2 and the Ruger AR-15 if you're on a budget.
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>>690408840
Ok so when the Aliens invade I guess we'll just throw rocks and old shoes and insults at them then.
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>>690411853
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>>690414677
No owners license or registration in Alaska. You're only subject to the federal tax and appropriate NFA paperwork.
>http://www.gunlaws101.com/state/law/alaska/nfa-weapon-restrictions
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>>690411783
Your just gelous our country is so much better than yours.
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Well, no one needs meth, LSD, or cocaine either, but it's okay. Those are illegal so they don't exist, right OP?

Here's a thought though. That guy who shot up Orlando, he could have done the same amount of damage with 4 loaded pistols. Maybe more if he had one in each hand. I wouldn't call any rifle an assault rifle unless it is fully automatic. So if it fires as fast as a pistol, then it's a semi automatic rifle.

As my closing argument, you don't need an assault rifle to cause damage. Guy who bombed Oklahoma? Fertilizer. 9/11? Planes and box cutters. The shooting in Colorado theatre? AR-15 for 11 rounds before it jammed, tossed it away, used two handguns that became the primary weapons. Guy who shot up Sandy Hook? Actually left the AR-15 in his truck, taking only his shotgun and two handguns inside. Police report listed shotgun and handguns as weapons in the shooting, it wasn't UNTIL the FBI made a report that listed the AR as the main weapon. The govt. is just trying to give people like OP an excuse to try to take away assault rifles. Anything can be a weapon, anything can hurt you when us human beings are so fragile.

So the next time you open your mouth, swallow bleach instead of talk shit. It'll smell better that way.
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>>690413702
You know absolutely nothing about firearm regulations or laws. There is no license...IN ANY STATE for automatic weapons. Fully automatic weapons that were produced in 1934 or earlier are still fully legal to own for regular citizens as long as you pay the $200 fee, submit a passport photo, fingerprints, pass and background check, and get the signature of your local ranking law enforcement officer. Some states have policies preventing the head of law enforcement approving applications (e.g. California).

tl;dr: You're a fucking retard.
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Also what about bears! The bears can smell the menstruation, so I need assault rifle to shot bears...
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>>690410232
moron..
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>>690411408

Here we have another example of someone who has no fucking clue what they're talking about.
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>>690415919
Wow. That's the 1980s law you can't buy anything produced after. the 1934 law was the first to add the restrictive license
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>>690415919
>that were produced in 1934 or earlier
1986
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>>690410232
>>690410939
Fucking owned
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>>690410691
So you are waiting for your country to end up like Syria? :) Nice argument m8 10/10
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>>690415919
>submit a passport photo, fingerprints, pass and background check, and get the signature of your local ranking law enforcement officer.
You don't even need this if you set up an NFA trust through a lawyer.
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I certainly don't need one. I have too many already. I think I might be a hoarder. Halp.
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>>690415681
Thanks for the tips. There's a colt I like foe around 900-1000 not cheap, but not too pricey either.
Stay golden
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>>690408840
Define assault rifle?
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Does "nobody" include bad guys, fed goons, popos, and pussies like you who pull the trigger, tinkle in their roos, drop the weapon, and hate guns forever?
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>>690416755
It goes pew pew really fast if I hold down the button. Plus they are really cool because sometime u can get golden or camo ones. Don't u even videogame?
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>>690408840
No one needs to get gender reassignment surgery. Debate me: you will lose
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Question. Are you a wiznerd? Only a wiznerd will be able to disarm the US citizenry. Debate is over. You lose...unless you are a wiznerd.
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>>690412256
in NY an assault weapon is is any semi-automatic rifle and a detachable magazine with one feature. That's right, one feature. The people of NY must choose between a pistol grip and a magazine that hasn't been pinned to the rifle.

This isn't to stop suicides that comprise two thirds of gun deaths and it isn't meant to stop the bulk of gun crime committed by gang members that typically use handguns. The purpose is ostensibly to force mass shooters to commit a weapons offense by bringing in a gun from another state or by altering a gun they purchased in NY.
If there's one thing we know about the incredibly rare mass shooter is that they're unwilling to break the law and they won't hurt anyone with anything other than a rifle with a pistol grip.
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>>690415681
I just picked up the S&W for $550 from Whittaker guns. Should have it next week. It's my second AR-15. While it's an entry level weapon, it's probably the best in the price range, and I'm going to customize it. My other is a Century Arms C15 (mil spec M16A2 surplus tooled down to civilian standards). Leaving that one vanilla for posterity. The S&W is also lighter so my wife can handle it and she wants to learn to shoot it.
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>>690417313
Yeah that's retarded. Their ban just like Cali is strictly based off cosmetics.
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>>690410939
The right to individual gun ownership was a Supreme Court ruling dipshit. Any research could have told you that.
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>>690416181
no you idiot
he is preventing that your country end up like syria
and you are so stupid that you are trying to remove the very things that prevent it from happening and dont even realise it
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That's an AR-15, OP
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>>690408840
North Hollywood Shootout. Now fuck off you sjw nigger loving faggot.
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>>690408840
I find it fascinating when countries who lack the social, political, racial and religious diversity of the US attempt to apply their homogeneous outlook to American life, as though the solution that works for their one-race, one-religion, one-culture country with 1/100th the population and 1/50th the land mass could possibly apply here. Let alone allow the tumescent development and unprecedented survival of the world's last remaining world-dominating superpower and greatest nation the world has ever seen.

tl;dr Freedom. You literally don't even know.
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You don't need 30 rounds to stop a school shooting. If Americans simply MUST have weapons for self defense, they'd do just as well with some kind of specialized low capacity self defense burner pistol or something.

You just like big guns. Just say it. Stop pretending there's any other motive to keeping them. I'd at least respect your dumb decisions if you were honest with us, and honest with yourself. Big guns are fun.
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>>690408840
No one needs a lawyer. Debate me: you will lose.
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>>690408840
I want one.
Debate me.
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>>690419771
SPYING BITCH
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>>690419771
>You just like big guns. Just say it. Stop pretending there's any other motive to keeping them.
You're correct. So what's the problem? I want them, you don't want me to have them. Why is your line of thinking the right one?
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What's the problem with just a little killing machine?
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>>690419771
No shit? Of course we like big guns. Nobodys saying we NEED them. Nobody NEEDS an AR15. Nobody NEEDS a sports car. Nobody NEEDS a flat screen tv.

But fuck you this is America. I want all of the above and have means to pay for them, so I will.
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>>690408840
>no one NEEDS high speed broadband internet
>no one NEEDS alcohol
>no one NEEDS entertainment
>no one NEEDS to do anything else than work 16 hours a day until you die
fuck off you totalitarian scumbag, go back to fantasizing about sodomizing Lenins stuffed corpse
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>>690420463
Hell yeah.
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>>690420149
The problem is: Drop the self righteous act, stop pretending that what you want is best for everyone, and recognize this is just another one of the MANY situations where a society has to choose whether or not to restrict fun stuff to protect people. Drugs, cars, etc.

You might get want you want, you might not. If history is anything to go by there's be some kind of compromise, like civilized societies do.
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>>690409593
ROF is about 14
There is 14 rounds in the air before you have moved 2 feet
He can litteraly empty the entire mag in you before you reach him.

Granted, you both are retarded, so he'll kill him self in the process
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>>690408840
>No one needs an assault rifle
Soldiers do though. So your statement is wrong before you even start to debate.
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>>690421539
Pedantry wins, e'ry time.
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>>690408840
>I don't believe in your right to own something
>I guess I'll just beg the big ol' government to come and take all of 'em
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>>690421116
>Drop the self righteous act, stop pretending that what you want is best for everyone
I want an AR-15
You don't want an AR-15
Opinions are like assholes
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>>690421889
Good. Doesn't that feel better?
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>>690409288
I'll ask you to wait a minute while I go to the safe and get my gun, which I keep in a safe because I'm a responsible gun owner.

Wait...
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>>690421116
>If history is anything to go by there's be some kind of compromise, like civilized societies do.
>civilized societies
Who's being the self righteous douche now?
There was a time and a place for compromise. Been there, done, that. Enough.

>Pic related
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>>690414101
Post pics. My granddaddy had something like that in Mexico before my bitch of an aunt pawned it
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>>690422168
I'm just telling you what you can expect. Nothing self-righteous about that. The same compromises are made all the time in our societies. This is no different.

Now if you're some kind of anarchist or have some kind of anti-establishment boner and you expect me to talk you down from that position; well I know better than to bother trying to change someone's philosophy of the fundamental role of government on an online imagboard. So I'm gonna go right ahead and blue-ball you.

Btw, do you really think all you've got left is crumbs? Hah.
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>>690408840
That's not an assault rifle
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>>690423491
liberals will never learn
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>>690423606
Had it occurred to you that they just don't care?
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>>690409320
Why would you need it tho?
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>>690423491
>>690423606

Actually, I hate to break it to you, but that image is an assault rifle. It's an M4 carbine. You can tell by the existence of the 'third pin', right above the fire selector.

Regardless, 99.999% of AR15s in the US aren't M4s or assault rifles, so i get where you're coming from.
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>>690423783
It looks scary so it is
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>>690423206
>Btw, do you really think all you've got left is crumbs? Hah.
Spoken like a true uninformed shit talker. You think that there is no talking sense to me, when in fact, it's quite the opposite. I'm ready to pass legislation on mental health and guns. You on the other hand, will never budge when it comes to gun grabbing.

How about this for a hypothetical, if we to give up semi-auto rifles, we get national reciprocity in all 50 states and major cities for handguns? Deal?
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>>690408840
Define "Assault". Does using it for assault things make it assault? Pic related an hunting Rifle
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friend posts this.....trouble ensues
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>>690424403

Let teh butthurt flow
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>>690424476

FINISH HIM
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>>690423998
You are correct, I did not zoom in and see the auto selection. Those are already banned 3 times over.
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>>690424476
Why do people relate something with a horrific incident when it has nothing to do with it? Is it for attention?
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>>690408840
No one needs to be alive. Debate me you'll lose.
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>>690424712
Some do for a while to help domesticated animals adapt to the wild
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>>690424806
Why do we need to domesticate animals?
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No amount of rational discourse is going to over ride "muh fellins'."

The vast majority of us that legally own firearms will never use them against another human. Ever.

Address the illegal owners, first. Then see where we're at.
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so theres no other way to get guns if you cant get them legally? or mod current guns?
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ITT communism
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>>690424939
We don't but we have. The few remaining must release them and teach them what to kill, what to eat, where to sleep and where to go.
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>>690408840
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>>690425039
That is the kind of dialogue we need to have, not taking legal guns from legal owners. We need to go after illegal shit first, especially with how easy it is to get conversion kits online.
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>>690424017
I didn't say there's no talking sense into you or anything to that effect. Strange that you'd immediately follow that up by making the same assumption of me though.

Personally I think even most pistols are excessive for self defense, but my opinions on the extent to which gun control should be implemented, and how easy it would be to do in the US ebb and flow as I read more people's arguments about it.Generally I think some kind of low capacity pistol would be enough.

All I did was post about how it irritates me that gun nuts pretend they want what's best for everyone.
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>>690425730
excuse the shitty grammar it's 3am
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Agreed. You'll get no argument from me, OP.
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>>690410103
Like the way nobody could answer this
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>>690425959
Then arguments about Why you/they need pistols and shotguns will arise. Then your/their knives. Then what?
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>>690425959
>bernie sanders
>anti-gun

It's like you didn't do your research or something
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>>690408840

the fact that you actually said "assault rifle" shows you have no idea what you're even talking about
I live in Carcross, Yukon. (North as fuck Canada)
>have a restricted licence, multiple scary black "assault" weapons, pistols, and short rifles/shotguns/pistols with shorter barrels and folding stocks smaller than any allowed in america., easily concealable.

>my pistol magazines are capped at 10, and any centerfire rifles are capped at 4 in the mag, 1 in the chambre

>contrary to popular knowledge you can carry a pistol with you in Canada if you have a trigger lock and are storing the ammunition seperately.
A lot of Canadians carry pistols in their cars legally this way.

other than our magazine caps, our gun laws are more relaxed than the states

>no waiting periods or background check or even a registry for semi-automatic long guns
>you could get your firearms licence in one day after a 3 hour course, go straight to walmart and buy an SKS with a removable magazine and 3000 rounds in one day. no questions asked

>can shoot on your own property if there's nobody else's house for 2km and no shooting toward a highway

first, "high power assault rifle" is an oxymoron.
the gun you posted a picture of is a .223 which is a very very small bullet. literally a quarter of the size of your average hunting rifle's bullet.

i use my "assault rifle" as a deer/sheep/goat gun as well as for pest control with gophers and whatnot.

anywhere rural Canada is rotten with guns, plenty of pistols, sawed off pistol grip shotguns, folding stock AR's, even kriss vector acp's and and compact glocks.

thing is even if you shoot someone and kill them in self defence you might still get a manslaughter charge. so people won't just pop off shots at anyone they hate, also must be kept under some sort of lock and key and with ammo not readily available.

Canada just dosen't have a violent society
the problem isn't guns, it's Americans
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>>690426208
Lying doesn't win an argument. It just makes you a liar.
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>>690412497
You can buy 100 round drums for the wood rifle on bottom.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/mini-14-100rd-dual-drum-mag-for-all-ruger-mini-14-rifles

And it's just as easy to swap out magazines on a 'hunting rifle' as it is on an AR15.

Don't talk shit about something you know NOTHING about.
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