Go to /pol/ fag

>>690147318
a hand gun could kill 50 people in 15 minutes

>>690147621
not nearly as easily thougn

>>690147318
Not military grade.
It's semi-auto.

Faggot.

>>690147318

>50 people in 15 minutes

A fucking musket can do that.

The reason we have AR15s is fuck you.

>>690147684
yeah it can glock with a 33round mag over half the deaths before one reload

>>690147318
That's not a assault rifle op. It doesn't have a forward grip and it looks like it's semi auto.

>>690147684
Obviously you don't shoot much.

>>690147895
ok.. but you know what im saying

>>690147318
as a norwegian, i would love to have one.
i think guns are awesome, not because they are meant to kill. but because i find guns to be intriguing.

>>690147730
Soldier in military only use semi-auto. Fully auto is just for cover fire. It's impossible to shot accurately even with just a 3 round burst. Soldiers are trained to not waste ammo.

>33 year old marine, 4 tours in iraq 2 in afghanistan

>>690147979
nope I don't considering ak and ar pistols exist and are by law handguns also that can take 75 or 100 round drums

ITT: Amerifats getting mad, don't touch muh guns hurr durr

>>690148044
Still not military grade. Doesn't matter how much shit you piled on top of your bullshit argument.

Doesn't change the definition, dipshit.

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>>690148044
dubs speak the truth. But 3 round burst is accurate through, a good shooter can keep it to a 4-5 inch spread, so a shot right in the center of the torso is likely to hit the target with all three shots.

Because "military grade assault rifles" are only used in 3% of gun crimes here, and we don't believe in giving up rights to solve problems that, statistically speaking, aren't really even problems.

>>690147318
>military grade assult rifle

>>690148476
Yeah, at 30-50 feet. Have you ever been in battle? 90% of the time that shit happens over distances of hundreds of yards.

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>>690147318
Ameritard here, and gun nut.
Dunno. I have one because it's fun to shoot.
So ya know, you can own a full auto here, but it's expensive and requires a special license. Ammo is expensive enough without throwing a paycheck downrange. Oldpic but related

>>690148647
Which I might add is why the .223 is the military standard. It's as accurate as the most accurate of hunting rifles, but with little recoil and a 20-30 round magazine, makes it a military grade rifle.

>>690148647
Actually most infantry engagements occur within 200m. That's basically half of the rationale that birthed the project which resulted in the adoption of the M16.

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>>690147845
Im gonna guess that ur american

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>>690147318
What's the difference between a hunting rifle and an AR-15?

Flying squirrels, that's why.

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Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggg

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>>690147318
Wild jahoodies are limited to cowardly assaults on soft targets. Attacks on our soil will not happen because there are more guns than people in the US.

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>>690147318
so is this an assault riffle OP???

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/b/ark

>>690149407
Its the scary rails that makes it bad

>>690149627
yes

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Reach out and touch someone.

>>690149610
and how are your guns gonna shot bomb out of the air, planes, missiles, tanks and drones? don't get me wrong now, I don't advocate an all out gun ban, but don't kid yourself and get rid of your delusions

>>690149610
false quote made up by yank media to maek them feel warm and fuzzy inside. Noone invades anymore, it's done by button and air. Fucking retards stupid enough to think a rifle will save you from any form of government dictatorship. It's already happening boys.

>>690148240
>fuuck YOU GUN NUT GIVE MR YOUR GUNS BE LIKE EUROPE
no

>>690147318
But handguns are the actual weapon of an assassin? Designed specifically to be portable murder machines that can easily be concealed?

If cowboys had full auto rifles, they would still carry pistols into town. Rifles are for warfare, pistols are for killing civilians.

>>690147979
you don't even know what you're saying

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Next they will want to take our tanks!

>>690148044
>Marine
>Uses the world "soldier" to describe military
>Says full retard is just for cover fire
>Can't hit with 3rb

Fake and gay.

>>690149877

>Planes/tanks/ships meme

You dumb nigger, all the kings horses and tanks and planes and men couldn't contain insurgency in iraq, a population just over that of texas. You think theyd stand up to a general countrywide uprising?

You have transcended the realm of fucking retarded into something deeper. I lack the proper words to describe this level of stupid.

>>690147318
>why do Americans feel the need to own a military grade assult rifle?
Fight tyrannical governments. Guess what, you need military grade weapons to defeat military forces in combat.

>>690149877
Why do people say this retarded shit? Do you see how well insurgency works? Do you see how impossible it is for US TO GO IN WITH OUR TANKS AND PLANES AND STOP ISIL WHICH IS A BUNCH OF SANDNIGGERS WITH JUST "your guns that cant shot bombs" AND WHY?

War will ALWAYS come down to infantry in the end. Genocide, maybe not, but war, always.

People seem to forget america was founded by rebels who bought this country with gunfire. You should ALL have paid attention in history class.

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That question, why does anyone NEED to have a scary looking rifle... like asking why does anyone NEED to own an escalade when a kia will get u to where you need to go..... for the record I have two rifles.. super scary looking..

>>690149877
If bombs out of the air, planes, missiles, tanks, and drones were the answer how did Vietnam and Afghanistan kick our ass? It's all about ground work and the simple fact that no one is ever going to take out guns.

>>690149407
Generally, caliber although that's not always true. Action is fairly irrelevant outside of instances like PA.
A number of states specify 24 as a minimum, 5.56/.223 being 22.4 caliber falls short of that.
If you were hunting game for which 5.56/.223 were a generally suitable caliber or were using an upper of another caliber 6.8/300/ect, an AR would make a fantastic rifle which you could easily suit to the circumstances of your hunt, whether a shorter handier brush gun or anything else may be ideal.
When people, sometimes even people within the firearms and hunting community, hear the term hunting rifle, they tend to think of the sporting rifle of yesteryear. Perhaps a butchered service rifle or the ubiquitous M70/R700, mostly because that's what is portrayed in media.

>>690149404
I'm going to guess you're in Europe. Have fun with your Muslims!

>>690147318
>feel the need

OURS IS A BILL OF RIGHTS, NOT NEEDS, PANTY-WASTE FUCKWAD

Why do Europeans feel the need to rely on American military to protect them from Russia? We all know the answer to that.

>>690150312

He's not wrong. They use single fire almost all the time.

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>>690150312
>Fake and gay.
anon knows his shit.

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Because of my job.

>>690150601
>it costs more to manufacture select-fire switches and install them
>they do that

Oh, jesus, I guess auto and burst are pretty fucking useful, huh?

>>690147318
rifles are used in less than 400 murders per year... why are they a problem again

>>690147730
What this guy said.

>>690150625
>>690150601
Stop calling of duty, please.

>>690150633
You don't own the gun, Uncle Sam does

>>690150625
Don't get me confused, I was only a National Guard faggot, but I know a faker when I see one no matter what branch they claim to be in.

>>690150501
Really need machete control over there. Those military grade machetes the Muslims use to hack innocent people at their train stations. they have no room to talk

>>690150633
look at this doode

>>690147845
no fucking way a musket kills 50 people in 15 minutes you goon you couldnt even kill 15

>>690148044
samed. trained to not waste. SFC in army

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>>690150717
>why are they a problem again
Because some idiot invented tumbly.

>>690148044
>>Soldier
>>Marine
Which one is it?

>>690148267
>being this retarded

>>690150790
Because of their history, every single european country without exception has banned sword-wielding since antiquity for citizenry.

Of course, machete slayings happen, and all, I'm just saying. They DO have sword-control there. It doesn't work any better than gun-control

>>690150980
Neither, he's a civilian liberal who also plays call of duty. He's probably a Brit or Canadian as well.

>>690150851
Musket has 20 seconds to reload and fire, 3 rpm. 15 minutes its 45 kills assuming hitting target every time

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I'm just going to leave this here.

>>690150763

You really can't accept that something you thought is wrong, can you?

It's ok, one day, you'll see that you were wrong...

>>690149407
Hunting with that makes you a retard. Get a real gun

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>>690147318
because you might need it one day

>>690150851

>I'm a retard who can't into guns
Muskets can throw out 3-4 rounds a minute
15 minutes
45-60 rounds

Doesn't matter what fucking gun they have when the people being shot at aren't goddamn fighting back and has that much time to shoot.

Here is your (You), moron.

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Time to hit the pub.
have fun you glorious /b/astards

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>>690151212
Not using a military grade rifle to take down innocent prey is cruel. You're pretty right.

>>690151198

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>>690147318
You post this every day

>>690151223
because liberty is more important than safety

This is like asking why you need to have a Dodge viper when you only really need a Geo Metro.

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>>690151355
chezked

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>>690151442
Safety is far more important than liberty.

>>690151442
because gun deaths have been consistently falling for the past 20+ years

>>690147318
i agree, we say we need them to fend off invaders but thats why we have the military

>>690151015
Poor eurofags. Can't have guns. Can't have bullet proof vest. Cant have sword. Jesus, talk about being powerless and defenseless. Maybe that's why their panties get so wadded up talking about americas guns.

>>690147921
It's still an assault rifle without the forward grip or full auto smart guy

>>690150689

Sure are, when you are trying to fix someone in place so something ELSE, like artillery, can do the killing.

When you don't HAVE fucking support elements to do the killing for you, everything that isn't fed by a belt and/or mounted to a hardpoint on a vehicle gets switched to...get ready for it...

Semi fucking auto. Because you kinda need to hit the fucker to make him die.

>>690151540
same reason i own a car.
and auto deaths are approx equal to gun deaths
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

>>690147318
Your turning this around. If you have to illegalize something, you have to look at reasons it should be illegal.
Freedom > safety
Always

You wouldn't want cameras everywhere in your house so the government could watch if you did something illegal.

Most people don't even understand what the 2nd ammendment even really means. Which by that their going to say what ever they think is right..if you don't understand the reason then you should ask a dumb question in the first place. Criminals are going to be criminals so who give a shit about rifle vs handgun.. it won't stop them being a criminal. Those who buy shit out legally won't be shooting up a place for no reason. So if you don't like the idea of owning a gun then don't get one.. and if your worried about being in a public place that's going to get shot up. Then stay home and keep playing your video games and watching the new publications for bad media... One Day you might get it..

>>690147318
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>>690151711
Absolute and total kek at the idea that burst fire is suppressive

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Americans are peasants (per the dictionary definition). Slaves in their own country.

They're given a Constitutional Right to own guns - as long as they protect The People from tyranny.

And what do they do when tyranny comes? Duck and cover. Cowards of the worst variety.

They don't deserve to own guns anymore. They lost that right the second tyranny arose, and they did NOTHING.

1% of their country controls 99.998% of their wealth. 1 in 10 of their citizens is in prison. Fuck 'em. They're not worth saving.

>inb4 but you have muslims in your country hurr durrrrrrrrrrrr

>>690150851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihYnG1raB6A
7 minutes they start up comparing a brown bess to a kentucky long rifle, one is a musket the other is a rifle.

>>690150717
Because the media wants them to be seen as such. It stirs controversy which drives viewership which makes them money and grants them favor with those whose agendas align with their profiteering on misery. A partnership forms and reinforces itself.

>>690150873
>.mil
>trained not to be wasteful
dohohohoho

>>690152129
>>inb4 but you have muslims in your country hurr durrrrrrrrrrrr

But it's true. Why aren't you taking your own advice and shooting islamofacists left and right? Guess you're a pussy that doesn't deserve to live anymore(be saved) too.

>>690152129
lol you have no idea what tyranny is

>>690152333
Because that would start ww3 faggot. A holy war

Must be a trump supporting fucktard
Checked

>>690152067

>Shitposting: The Post

Absolute and total kek at the idea that you are going to stick your head up into 10+ people burst firing at what you are currently hiding behind.

PS: Please do this.

>>690152129
>1 in 10 in prison
That's mostly niggers, friend.

>>690147318
Too many people are responsible with their weapons to ban them. We don't ban cars, despite the number of injuries and fatalities directly caused by them and their potential for abuse, because they have value. Guns have value and the regulations in place at federal and state levels (like those for cars) are society's response to the danger in an attempt to balance freedoms and dangers. Your suggestion to ban everything but hunting rifles and handguns- two categories of weapons that could be every bit as dangerous in the wrong hands as an "assult" rifle- suggests you don't know enough about firearms to make any kind of policy decision or even a policy suggestion.

>>690147318
The 2nd amendment was not designed for self protection or hunting. It was designed to ensure the populous has the chance to resist government tyranny. Also its a right, not a need/want.

>military grade
the military doesn't use MCX's or AR-15's.

>>690152369
don't talk to me son. you're a coward. sure, you still have your guns. but you live under massive tyranny. your country has the largest amount of incarcerated citizens on earth. and you laugh.

you use the argument that the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to own guns.

but under the 2nd amendment you're supposed to be in well regulated militias. and you are supposed to protect The People from tyranny. you've failed.

>>690147318
The reason Americans are Supposed to own military grade weapons is so that they can rebel against a corrupt government, however most Americans believe it's because muh' freedums

>>690152436
You're literally retarded, dude. You are not in the military, adn if you are you're a fucking marskman. Do you think you know any fucking thing about shooting, marksman? You know the same as every single other grunt that even made it.

>>690151531
I sincerely hope you are baiting, else i feel sorry for your worthless life.
Go live in your bomb shelter basement and never return

Cos 'Murica

>>690147318
Ever hear of a new york reload OP?

Of course not, that would mean that your worthless opinions are based on facts, and knowledge.

>>690152436
>absolute and total kek at the idea that you are going to stick your head up into 3+ people popping off with .22lr

oh shit maybe gunfire itself is suppressive!

If you can't hit with burst, you can't hit with single-fire. Why? The first round in a burst IS single fire you fucking numbnuts motherfucker. Yes, auto is for suppression. Yes, burst is less accurate than single fire.

No, burst is not suppressive. Three round burst was created because if you fire in center mass you're NEARLY GUARANTEED TO HIT(yooooou worthless fucking marksman trash you)2+ times, flatly increasing lethality.

>>690147979

> okay, I'm wrong, but you know what I'm saying.

Yes, what you're saying is in fact wrong.

The AR-15 is for medium to long-range engagements - the sandnigger was indoors - a .45 Glock with a bag full of extended mags would have been far, far more effective.

>>690153460
I mean, really. Wikipedia burst fire. Do you see the words suppression, suppress or , or suppressive? No.

Aren't muskets usually shotguns? Rifles are a little slower but they're more precise and have deadlier projectiles by virtue of the close fit.

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>>690148044

You're absolutely full of shit - your utterly broken English outs you. Nice try.

>>690152797
>don't talk to me son
no, don't talk to me, eurotrash.
you only know the concept of liberty.
its a novelty to you.

>>690147318
A combination of factors, all of which are batshit insane but which can be understood.

You'll find that enthusiasts for weapons of this nature (semi-automatic, fairly high magazine capacity) are overwhelmingly politically conservative. This might seem obvious, but their thinking comes loaded with lots of assumptions. First, they think that their rights as American citizens begin and end with the list compiled by the founding fathers in the Constitution over 200 years ago. There is a tendency to believe that "might makes right" so that when the First and Second Amendments come into conflict, they will always defend the Second at the expense of the First. Their understanding of the Constitution as a document to be taken literally is not unlike their interpretations of the Bible. There is no room for meaning to evolve as circumstances in society change.

There is quite a bit of alignment, often subconsciously, with the rebellion against what was considered to be an overreaching Federal government in the Civil War. A rebellion waged, it needs to be noted, in defense of an economic system almost entirely based on agrarian chattel slavery. There is a continuing sense of outrage about their defeat at the hands of this government and destruction of an entire way of life.

To this day, the Feds are viewed with suspicion and the most likely source of an imposition of tyrannical rule that would try to destroy what remains of this culture altogether. "Assault weapons" are a sort of psychological comfort mechanism. They are viewed as an insurance against Federal tyranny, alongside frequent intimations that most military service members would be likely to side with them in the event of another armed rebellion (a dubious proposition, but not entirely unlikely).

Sauce: living among these nutters for 30 years.

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>>690153784
>your utterly broken English outs you

*you're

Because we're afraid of black people.

>>690153565
this, this, this a thousand times. He killed 50 people with an AR, he could have easily killed twice that in an equally ideal situation with just a few 9mm glocks in a jacket with more than one pocket, all loaded with 15 round mags. That, you can hide t hem, and they weigh a tenth of what a rifle(especially a"military spec" rifle) does. Also, corners won't hard-counter you.

>>690148799

Lol, that shitty direwolf.

Go to the gun range rent an ar15 then gather some perspective and you will realize why people want ar15 for protection and recreational use

Cuz they're cool as fuck, faggot.

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>>690147318

Because I am in the militia.

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>>690153969

You are utterly broken English? Hahahahaha - you complete fucking moron!

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>>690154816
>you will never charge degenerate descendants of Spaniards on horseback while high on coke with the man who will go on to be one of the best heads of state your homeland will ever have

>>690153969
You fucking retard.

>>690147621
Not if its revolvers only!! (Speed loaders would be illegal)

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>>690147318
aside from the fact that one of the primary purposes of the 2nd amendment is to be able to resist foreign or domestic government tyranny which would entail at the very least a similar rifle to what our infantry use, an AR-15 or any rifle like it is the best gun you could use for home defense unless you wanted to use a handgun for mobility reasons.

>>690147318
>military grade
>assault rifle
That's a civilian, semi-automatic rifle, faggot. learn your guns before you try to control them.

>you say military grade when an AR15 only shares the look of an M4/M16 rifle beyond that the internals are completely different

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>>690151638
We have it to fight a tyrannical government

>>690148565
>percentage statistics
god dude ur actually an idiot

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>>690156185
>god dude ur actually an idiot

>>690149877
>implying the government would bomb its people

>>690147318
>why do Americans feel the need to own a military grade assult rifle?

Who fucking gives a shit about NEED. Free men don't need anything. Slaves talk about what they need from their masters.

> a hunting rifle and a handgun is the only thing that should be available to the public

75% of all mass shootings are done with handguns. The type of weapon is irrelevant.

Now go back to watching cuck porn, douchebag

>>690155789
Anything shooting over 20 rounds per minute should be illegal.

Last I checked the reason the japanese didnt try and invade the US is because and I quote "It is impossible to invade the mainland US because there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass." We are not worried of war because we are prepared. And the AR15 is not a "military grade assualt rifle" cause if it was it would have interchangable fire, and have the capability of being fully automatic.

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>>690156505
>wont even bomb the peoples of our enemies

>>690153946
>>690154650
I fucking love these posts

>>690156578
Revolvers should be the only legal handgun (speed loaders would be illegal)

>>690156598
umm paintball guns shoot faster than that....

>>690156841
Exactly.

>>690153946
>>690154650
These made me smile

>>690147318
It is illegal for American citizens to own a military-grade "assault" rifle. You are likely suggesting fully-automatic weapons which are not legal. Semi-automatic weapons, which fire a single cartridge only every time the trigger is pulled, is what is legal and what the civilian AR-15 is; however, the Orlando muslim terrorist did not use an AR-15.

>>690147318
Would someone please explain the difference between one of these and an assault rifle?

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>>690147318
Agree 100%!

>>690151179
assuming they hit fatally*

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>>690148565
you like statistics? well, how do you like these statistics?

seriously, we need some kind of national registry... you have to be an idiot to think that there's not a gun problem in america, or that we shouldn't pass SOME KIND of legislation to help stop it.

>>690151692
I can't speak for the dirty unwashed masses of the EU, but in the UK you can have all of those.

To say totherewise makes you a retard who doesn't read law before making objective outbursts.

>>690156598
So, the literal most primitive "modern" gun, bolt action, is still illegal.

Well, there goes hunting. What's the point of banning everything but ball loading muskets, then?
btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv352t6tf50

>>690147845
>the reason we have AR15s is fuck you

Honestly, best argument I've heard.

>>690156826
Go live somewhere else.

Seriously, the Right to bear arms is a fundamental right in this country. If it bothers you so much that you can't live with it, and acknowledge that its purpose requires weapons capable of fighting a revolution, then you should really go live in a country where people agree with you.

>>690152797
we have a winner!

>>690157168
>revolvers (with speed loaders being banned)

>>690156505

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

>>690156811
The wild assertions and unfounded assumptions they're littered with must really get you off. Challenging the monopoly of force held by history's only hyperpower is a good deal easier on paper than it is in practice.

>>690157083
Stop blaming an inanimate object for something a Human did.

>>690157279
Oh no, I'm staying here, to control guns.

>>690157368
Click the embed you dumbfuck.

NORMAL people can load and fire faster than 20rpm with a fucking FIVE SHOT. If you can't you... have some kind of palsy.

>>690147318
Yeah , you're right OP . Lets ban guns . Start with the government first

>>690157279
Are revolvers and bolt-action rifles not arms?

>>690157083
why does this graph stop at 3.5? these values are out of 100,000.

The semi-automatic -- which has the exact same firing speed and mechanism as the civilian AR-15, and every other semi-automatic rifle -- was invented and sold in 1885 by Mannlicher. The same firepower over 130 years ago was available. Unfortunately, the emotion-driven uneducated who never let facts get in the way of opinion truly believe and will still argue that these are fully automatic machine guns.

>>690157874
They are and so are ar15s, we can have all three. :-) and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>690156811
>>690156907
The funny thing is, if you go with the historical hurr muh 3% the number of insurgents is hilariously larger.

The big problem however with a civil war, aside from civil war itself being ugly on a scale beyond war between nations as if that were possible, is that post globalization it wouldn't be 'our' war so to speak in much the same way that the Syrian Civil war is being fueled by many different extranational interests. You can bet your ass as border security crumbled our neighbors would be severely affected and not only that but the other major national players would begin influencing parties in favor of their interests. How much influence they could affect is something I'm very curious to know but never hope to learn. America is for Americans after all.
PS fight the TPP.

>>690157561
>Stop blaming an inanimate object for something a Human did.

...using a specific inanimate object, one that makes it much easier to kill many more people. stop clinging to you guns and your bibbles. you're making the rest of us look bad.

>>690157977
It makeshift look like there's an actual gun problem in any of those country's. 3 people out of 100,000 is literally nothing.

>>690158235
Never mind the whole occupy Boston movement.

>>690158350
Makes it

>>690156952

There isn't. I own two AR-15's, and they are both, by definition, assault rifles. I hate it when gun owners try to claim otherwise. Yes, they are semi-automatic. Full auto isn't required for it to be an assault rifle. The traits are:

Pistol grip
Rapid fire
Removable magazine
High capacity magazines

They are based on the StG44 "Sturmgewehr 44," a late WWII German rifle that is father of all assault rifles. Sturmgewehr or Storm Rifle, was translated into English as "Assault Rifle." It had all of the traits listed above. It was also selective fire. All assault rifles since are similar in appearance and functionality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

>>690158076
this.

just fucking try, basically; which, by the way, is the point of the amendment. You have the right to bare arms BECAUSE you need them to keep them.

How quickly europe forgets lessons scribed in blood.

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>>690147318
Amen. No need to take shots faster than you can work a bolt.
If you miss, slow the fuck down and aim.

>>690157977
because it's per 100,000 people, and 3.2 per 100,000 is the highest on the list?

>>690158342
sandy hook would have been just as deadly if it was a 200 lb autist with a katana.

>>690147921
Assault rifles don't need a forward grip

>>690158076
Actually there is, the government can CONTROL them. We have the right to bear arms, it doesn't specify what types. Therefore your precious AR-15 can be banned.

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>>690158350
>3 people out of 100,000 is literally nothing.
>literally

...right.

>>690152797

>but under the 2nd amendment you're supposed to be in well regulated militias.

A well regulated militia is simply a well armed population of military age. We have that.

>and you are supposed to protect The People from tyranny. you've failed.

Agreed. Anybody up for a civil war?

>>690158564
3.2/100000 = 0.000032

that is a very low chance of homicide. doesn't seem too scary to me.

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>>690158350
It doesn't matter unless you collate data from murders per capita. (fact is they still kill people, just with knives and fists and broken bottles and clubs)

>>690147318
They have small dicks

>>690157586

You failed.

>>690158831
statistically impossible

>>690158831
True

>>690158530
Fellow gun owner here. You are incorrect. Those traits define an assault weapon not an assault rifle. You own two modern sporting rifles nothing more faggot.

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>>690147318
You didn't "need" to post this thread with your opinion, but here we are. I guess the right to free speech includes more than just needed opinion just as the right to bear arms includes more than just needed guns.

>>690158557
>this
Ozfag here - have two rifles and a shotgun - love hunting but can't understand the NRAS obsession with justifying assault rifles and handguns for civilians. It's nonsense.

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>>690147318
>Why do Americans feel the need to own a military grade assult rifle?

In case the order is given.

How come when Arabs attacked France there was no gun debate

>>690158530
Thanks anon

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>>690158611
no, no it wouldn't. your argument is stupid, and you're stupid. you think you could walk into a nightclub and murder 50 people, and injure 50 more, with a fucking katana? myamoto musashi couldn't have pulled that shit off.

>>690147318
Fuck you that's why. Try to stop me from owning them. Go ahead, fucking try.

>>690159037

You're dead wrong, Anon. Read a fucking history book sometime.

The history of the rifle is what got its name, not some conspiracy to label it something scary.

>>690159297
sandy hook was not a night club. it was an elementary school.

timothy mcveigh killed more than the gay muslim by using products that are still for sale to anyone at home depot.

>>690147318
because hillbillies are just as stupid as the nogs and rabs.

>>690159127
And they did it with muskets and cannon! Not a semi-auto in sight. Oh gee whiz you sure showed me.

Btw that man was a strategic dunce.

>>690158530
I'm sorry but by very definition an assault rifles need be capable of fully automatic fire or it is just a rifle. They might be neutered assault rifles but that does not make them assault rifles.

>>690158611
180 lb edcfag here(probably on the spectrum), and I can confirm: i could have #sandyhooked.

but that would be dishonorable, and death before dishonor

>>690158779
>3.2/100000 = 0.000032
>0.000032

retarded mathman strikes again. it's .00032, you human skidmark.

>>690158728
It is nothing you fucking moron. 3/100,000 is 0.00003 percent. I'm just gonna say most people on average will meet say 600-1000 people in there life. Statistically the average American will never know someone murdered by a gun.

>>690159297
Im pretty sure you could. regardless I know for a fact that you could walk into a nightclub with a Molotov and kill near everyone in it, given you bar the escapes first and turn off the water supply.

>>690158750
>A well regulated militia is simply a well armed population of military age. We have that.

what part of that is "well regulated"? i guess i shouldn't expect logic from some backwoods hick, though. that's my bad.

>>690159522
are you arguing that the U.S. military should be using muskets and cannons?

>>690159428
in ww2 we couldnt translate german yet, hes right. we only had a bunch of fucking german scientists making all our best weapons. and all of the entire time germany was part of the european continent to learn it

>>690159607
oh boy thats some sweet irony

>>690159559
That's probably moot. The UK army used to use single shot SLRs when other armies had the fully auto version.

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>>690159643
>Statistically the average American will never know someone murdered by a gun.
Unless they're a nigger

>>690159607
Put it in a calculator your retarded nigger.

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>>690159839
you're right
clearly they meant having and obtaining bear arms.

>>690159559
Where is that definition? Who came up with it?

Full auto has nothing to do with it.

>>690159784
Nope. But somehow the the Russian peasants overthrew the Tsar with very few rifles in the beginning.

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>>690147318
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED

>>690149993
>quote is from the 40's
>germany invaded poland and france in the 40's
>No one invades anymore

weird

>>690160165
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

check out the first 5 sources here the technical definition has been like this for years

>>690157083
Adjust this for race, my dude

>>690160165
The definition was made by the us military. Assault rifle=rifle chambered in an intermediate caliber capable of select fire.

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>>690160165
Sort of the defining feature of the mp44m which you seem to think is the progenitor. In fact, it was THE defining feature. (you can't be convinced to use wikipedia, you're mandelaffected as fuck so im arguing on your terms)

>>690151487

Nice b8 pic m8

>>690160165
FA has everything to do with it. You need the entire squad/fireteam capable of delivering suppressing fire in order to overwhelm defenders while still being able to engage enemies at range and out range submachineguns. That was the entire point of the assault rifle. Without FA you only have a rifle regardless of whether it is chambered in intermediate or rifle.

>>690150633
Boot

>>690159508
i was using the orlando shooting as another example, and tim mcveigh was a veteran with advanced knowledge of explosives that not every retarded faggot who wants to kill a bunch of people does. they'd be more likely to blow themselves up trying.

>>690159643
>It is nothing you fucking moron. 3/100,000 is 0.00003 percent

.00003%=/=0, you ignoramus. lrn2math
>>690159673
>Im pretty sure you could
no, you couldn't 100 people aren't going to wait around to be stabbed by a fucking maniac weilding a sword.

>you could walk into a nightclub with a Molotov and kill near everyone in it, given you bar the escapes first and turn off the water supply.

well, that would certainly take a whole lot more planning, preperation, effort and luck than just shooting the place up. the whole anbti-gun argument is that it makes it too easy for psychos to kill a bunch of people, which is an argument that what you just said bolsters.

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>>690147318

This.

>>690160558
you know that the A4 doesnt have FA right?

>>690160182
AS
PART
OF
A
WELL
REGULATED
MILITIA

>>690160170
I am pro 2nd amendment and the AR-15 is protected unambiguously according to the latest SCOTUS ruling in DC v Heller but that being said, an AR-15 vs. any other semi-automatic rifle wouldn't make much of a difference in the big picture if things were ever to come to an actual fight between citizenry and some military force.

I personally want an AR-15 because it is the best home defense gun I can think of.

>shittybait4u

Nearly five times as many murders are committed with knives than so-called “assault rifles,” according to the FBI.
The new crime statistics released by the agency reveal that out of 11,961 murders performed within the U.S. in 2014, 660 were committed unarmed, 1,567 were committed with knives and only 248 murders were known to have been committed using rifles of any type, including single-shot long arms and “assault rifles” routinely demonized by gun control groups.
Granted, the FBI did list 2,052 murders under “unknown firearm type,” but given the percentages of the known firearm categories, it is unlikely that more than four percent of the “unknown firearms” were in fact rifles, and less than that were semi-automatics.
In other words, despite the calls to ban “military-style assault rifles” by anti-gun groups, conservatively less – and likely much less – than four percent of murders were committed using AR-15s, AK-47s and other semi-automatic long arms.

>>690147318
it's written that if our government goes corrupt we can start a revolution. Come on you faggot and pay attention in third grade

>>690160591
>no, you couldn't 100 people aren't going to wait around to be killed by a fucking maniac wielding a weapon.

oh shit look what i did there

>>690160591
No dude, your wrong I'm sorry you don't understand percentages.

>>690160591
>i was using the orlando shooting as another example

the orlando shooter would have been just as successful with a semiautomatic pistol considering he was able to shoot 100 people with zero resistance whatsoever.

>>690159522

If you happen to live in the US., then your Right to free speech doesn't apply to the internet. You should be imprisoned for some of the things that you've said.

The 4th Amendment cannot apply to online banking, so all of your accounts can be forfeit without due process.

Cruel and unusual punishment allowed for hanging, firing squads, etc. I doubt that you will enjoy your execution for violating the online offensive speech act.

Some of the other things that the courts have allowed recently should be null and void as well, as they aren't specifically protected under the Constitution. Sodomy (you're going to die, faggot.), abortion, right to an attorney, etc.

>>690147621
Also completely unnecessary.

>>690159770
https://mic.com/articles/24557/9-things-you-didn-t-know-about-the-second-amendment

you should read this. you seem to know very little about the 2A

>>690159770

"well regulated" means well armed. Read a history book, dumbass.

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>>690160685
>mfw a1

>>690160759
So explain to me why you feel so threatened that only a semi-auto rifle will do?

>>690147318
That's cool, then when the government goes too far we can't fight back. Makes sense.

>>690160186
name another after the 50's.

>>690160685
Burst fire is a doctrinally driven evolution of FA rolled out in the hopes of reducing ammo expenditures while still being capable of delivering suppressing fire, at predicable intervals that force shorter bursts and encourage more frequent acquisition of targets or target positions. For all intents and purposes it should be considered as in the same category as FA.
Semiautomatic is just semiautomatic.
Suck a dick you pedant.

>>690161362
Because criminals can 3d print guns that are semiauto? Or you miss one shot and then they just stab you. You'd be better off with a fucking partisan spear, you're so stupid. Or do you suggest everyone take "batman class" so they can hand to hand thugs like a rythm game?

>>690149993

>Noone invades anymore, it's done by button and air.

Tell it to Ukraine, Crimea, Iraq, Georgia...

>>690160591
>no, you couldn't 100 people aren't going to wait around to be stabbed by a fucking maniac weilding a sword.

Pretty sure they would. kinda what happened in that night club. people were stunned by fear and couldn't even think clearly enough to open an emergency exit door right in front of them, they also hid in restrooms.... So yes, yes they would. I think you underestimate what fear will do to a person.

>>690149407
They should both be banned. Why would you need anything other than a bolt-action rifle?

>inb4 other 'muricans with guns.

>>690160759
>I personally want an AR-15 because it is the best home defense gun I can think of.

Genuine question. What makes the AR-15 any better than either of my 380's (walther and a ruger)

>>690161486
this is the most ignorant shit i have ever read in my life waht the fuck? it happens everywhere, just not RIGHT HERE. Protip: google israel. Did you think it was a country always? It wasn't. Maybe, since it has the name of a state, you remember that whole "georgian occupation" about ten fucking minutes ago?

>>690147318
Typical Liberal Logic
>Yurr guns ain't no match or da gummument
>Why you have buy military grade whepuns?

>>690161588
>burst is FA
lol no.
stuff it you fucking civi.
dont talk about tactics like you know shit, all you do is browse /k/ and watch anime.

>>690161485
martial law, free for all cops killing your niggers, military brutality abroad and coming back to your streets.. can you maybe, give it a go now?

>>690161808
well there are good reasons to choose a pistol over a rifle, but if you have to shoot someone a rifle is going to be much more effective at stopping a threat.