i hope you're not saying that the pic is a woman

>>689949886
There is zero advantage, they are a hindrance.

>>689949886
She makes more money than me

>>689949886
sounds like you need to get yourself a real doll

>>689949886
Its not other than sex.

>In the beginning its because you want nothing else

>In the middle its because youre used to her

>In the end its because youre afraid to be alone

>>689949886
We play games together, drink together, and she sucks my dick, so I've got nothing to complain about.

>>689949886
In rare exceptions it's no different than having a pretty guy for a friend.

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>>689950354
This guy gets it

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>>689950354
Going through it rn

>>689950443
I wish man, it's just they're such a disability to carry around.

>>689950354
So true, like OP being a faggot

>>689950569
absolutely

emotional support, sex whenever you want, if you have a good relationship she will also be your bro and you can ask her to pegg you without fear of being judged

>>689950047
>>689950255
People salty because they can't get girlfriends

>>689950913
I've been with her for three years and the most emotional support she's provided is that when my dog died she changed the subject to about how she stubbed her toe the same day.

I get sex whenever she feels like it.

>>689951258
too bad you gf sucks

>>689949886
dude is not a lady

>>689950354
This
>3rd stage
Right there at the end thats where I am.
I really hope I make her feel for me again. I've been such an asshole.

>>689949886
Just a few reasons why I'm getting engaged:
>She makes twice as much as I do writing code for a national inusrance company, so there's tons of job security
>Her family is awesome, so get togethers are fun as shit with plenty of drinking and card playing
>She's just as independent as me, so afternoons/evenings I spend gaming she'll spend reading/watching something on Netflix
>The sex is awesome, and she's down for almost anything
>As dumb as it sounds, she just gets me. I've come home from work just hating life and some of the autistic people I work with, but she'll always be there offering me a glass of whiskey and listens to me unload how frustrated I get
>my friends love her

I used to think like you did, until I met her. Now I realize I was never better off alone.

>>689951474
Damn right she does, >>689950354 has it right. It's just having a boyfriend would be so much more fulfilling I feel like. Like... what is the point if all that's gonna happen is we'll split up in a few years and she'll try to take all my shit and the law will support her.

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There are Few really sad, pathetic fucks in this thread.

To those virgins, stay salty.

>>689951755
I'm so jealous... how'd you find her out of the midst of all the fucking harpies?

>>689949886
You eventually get tired of either having to put the effort into picking up sluts at bars or paying for a hookers.

>>689951755
>checked
You hold onto that bitch bro and don't ever let her go.

>>689951995
eHarmony, actually. I decided to give online dating one last shot. I was 100% honest with who I was and what I wanted. and we just clicked. Shit was cash, especially when we discovered we both listened to the same Finnish death metal.

>>689952213
I fully intend to. The condo we're living in is 100x better than any apartment I've been in. Plus with the money I saved, I bought a motorcycle (which she was 100% behind). We're saving up for a house now. Also, her cat is dank as fuck.

>>689951755
I thought I had this too... for 10 years. I wasted my 20s on that bitch, but honestly I never had what you seem to have, I kind of pretended that she was great, but she was just terrible and I forgave her for a million little things. Her family was garbage too.

>>689952185
Meh I've had long term relationships. I'm actually much happier being single. Ive found I put less money into my hooker fund than I did just having a gf.

>>689952653
OP here, I know the feeling.

>>689952665
Agreed. But you just to control how often you visit. Can't be spending 150-300 every day.

>>689951755
That's almost exactly what I would have said.

Any of you salty bastards complaining how she's a liability or a drag, you've got the wrong one in your life. Having a good woman by your side, makes life next level awesome.

I wouldn't be able to go to college, do my job, and watch my son without my wife.

i fucking feel sorry for american men, they have nothing to choose from but trash.

leave america and your view will change, it just will.

>>689951755
Damn. Sounds just like my relationship

>>689949886
I love my kids, and society says they have to live with mom...so I stick around

>>689953239
Op here, where should I go? I'll run as far as I can... I can't stay like this anymore.

>>689950980
Not them but they're spot on. One ex wife and soon to be ex girlfriend. They are just pains in the ass. They bitch, sure you don't have to work hard for sex on the beginning but that phase ends and honestly I've had an easier time fucking 8/10+ girls that are completely sober and I have extreme social anxiety.

>>689953398
I have full custody of my son, shit does happen sometimes.

>>689949886
I can handle light friendship with a woman, but I have been hiding from relationships for the past 5 years after my last traumatic relationship with a woman. I've also been happier than I have been since I was a child these past 5 years. I do what I want, when I want. I think I'll stick with that.

>>689951846
Itd be the damn same with a man

>>689953404
somewhere other than america. american women aren't worth it. south america, eastern europe, hell even africa or the middle east...somewhere where women aren't afraid to be women. women are sexy and fun, corrupted american females are not.

>>689953521
Usually unless your ex is off the wall crazy, dies or abandons you that doesn't happen.

>>689951258
What a shitty GF anon, unless she is a 9-10/10 and godlike to fuck I don't see the reason to keep her around

>>689953404
England, or the general UK area. I worked with a guy from England, and when I mentioned that I love women with English accents, he said that it's the same way in England with women and American accents. If you want that same level of interest just from your accent, go there.

>>689949886
splitting bills makes life a hell of a lot easier, we've got dogs and a small business so it helps that one of us can tend to those things when the other isn't able, she cooks and does most of the laundry, regular sex and blowjobs, basic human companionship. real question- are you autistic?

>>689952989
The sex is better and even with the cost I still have sex about 80% as frequently as I did in a relationship. that coupled with the random bar pick up more than covers the rest.

>>689953239
>mostly trash
There are still good girls here you just have to actually put forth some damn effort.

>>689952893
My life is absolute shit and I think getting rid of her was actually a step in the right direction. If I wasn't so fucking broke I'd pack a bag and leave the country forever.

>>689953723
My states very close to down the middle on it.... That and my ex is crazy

>>689953239
If all hes found in america is trash thats all he'll find elsewhere too m8. Its him not them.

>>689951755
Good work nigga. I know there are awesome women out there. I'm just at the point where I'm not sure if it's worth wading through the ocean of shit to find one hidden gem.

>>689954089
Spoiler alert: it is
All that trash you go through makes your gem shine so much brighter

>>689954033
if we were talking about any other country than america, you'd be correct. american girls are without doubt the least appealing of any country i have ever lived in/travelled to on account of their robotic personalities. china is second.

>>689953737
She's an 8 hawaiian-asian mix. Huge ass, great hips, and too shy to cheat on anyone with.

But she's so fucking self-destructive, hates outdoors and people, puts up with me because she feels guilty, wants to live in a fucking shithole town, and refuses to try to do anything good for herself. Any ideas I throw out she thinks are god awful and recomends we sit inside and watch anime instead of having jobs or eating healthy. The town she's in doesn't get fresh fruit except for late spring, every other time the market is covered in fruit flies.

>>689953808
I don't have the looks for a bar pick up or the money for grade-A girls, but an occasional, almost vomit-inducing, 30 minutes with a 50 year old asian with a cesarean scar, i can do.

>>689949886

She get's me to be the better version of myself, make me laugh, cook very well and clean, also she's a 10/10

Love is beautiful

>>689954250
Then you were in a shitty area. Murrica is a big place.

>>689951755
Ahh the delusions of an engaged man.

>>689953398
This is why I never want kids. Ever. If men ever have rights in custody cases, sure, but that wont happen.

>>689954538
>delusions
He probably took the time and put forth the effort to find a girl worth actually chasing. It's what i did.

>>689954311
Then just go to the supermarket wtf
It's not like the fruits there are of bad quality

>>689953478
how did you get the chance to fuck 8/10+ girls with social anxiety?

>>689954204
Yeh I'd agree with this, even though it sounds a bit wet.
My missus is cool, been together since we were teens. Mess around like mates do, got a cool family going, it's all going pretty good. None of this bitterness that you see here, no resentment, no rules on what I can or can't do, no problems.
Get a decent one and it's smooth sailing.

>>689953521
She must be an unbelievable monster for the courts to give you custody over her.

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>>689954538
Not quite, nigga. Everything I said is 100% truth. I wouldn't have proposed if it wasn't.

>>689954788
If you take the time to make sure your woman is worth marrying it will never be an issue. So basically you just dont trust yourself not to make that mistake.

>>689954788
Depends where you live

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>>689950354
Sadfrog.gif

>>689954866
That's what I was talking about. The town has one place to buy food and they don't even take care of it.

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>>689949886
Cause its not fuckin GAY! LIKE YOU!!

FAG!

Fancy a bum?

>>689954871
Spoiler: their only 8/10 lookwise not mentally

>>689954871
Well you obviously have to go to them first.

>>689955060
was meant to respond to
>>689954843

>>689954902
My state has about a 60/40 of women to men winning the cases.

>>689955285
>My brotha from anotha motha
These fools dont understand that if you go the easy way you'll always get shit on in the end.

>>689954538
Ahh the angst of a jealous and lonely neckbeard.

>>689950354
>In the end its because youre afraid to be alone

Or, according to stats, you have a 50% chance in the end that you are so sick of her shit, being alone is preferable/enjoyable.

I've been with my gf for seven years now. Best person I've ever known. If it wasn't for her, I'd have already taken my own life.

>Marriage is meaningless
>You lose money by getting married
>The tax benefits are not worth it
>Gays just want to feel normal, but its just more conformity, only reason they fight for it

Have a friend who's paying 20k for the wedding. 20k you will never get back from benefits.

>>689949886
fucking traps

>>689953901
Most states are except two where is only that way if you're married.
I have 50/50 with mine but full custody is rare for men unless your ex like yours is bat shit.

>>689954204
You sure you don't just lower your standards to the point where trash looks like a gem and you can only differentiate between her and complete shit.

>>689955460
Yup.

I almost fell into their camp when I moved to the small town where my job is. It was super easy to pick up chicks at dive bars because I actually had money, a steady job, and a car that worked. They were all fucking psychos, and I guarantee I would have hated life if I ended up with one of them. When I actually put the time and effort into finding what I wanted....I actually found what I wanted.

>>689955585
My wife bought me a fairly decent tvr for my birthday from her own savings, it cost more than our reasonably fancy wedding on the other side of the world, so again, pick a good one and you're fine.
To be fair though, if you're looking at marriage as a balance sheet, it's probably not for you anyway.

>>689954978
>So basically you just dont trust yourself not to make that mistake.

Exactly. I've also had seriously traumatic experiences with women my entire life starting from birth (mother is batshit crazy. Literally). I'm kind of uneasy around them in general. Why the fuck couldn't I have been a gayfag?

My wife supports me and buys me pot while I sit on the couch all day. No other woman would do that. Plus she sucks my dick and fucks me twice a week. I had 5 strokes last year. She didn't leave me. I'm not going to leave her.

I'm a trophy husband

>>689956280
>Why the fuck couldn't I have been a gayfag?
Because you're cautious and wary, not a deranged mental case.

>>689956096

I just dont understand why people pay for anything other than the 60 dollar license.

>>689955585
I'm not paying $20k for my wedding, that's retarded. My wedding will be about $4k, if that.

>>689956350
I'm a model husband, but my wife is sad that I'm not a working model. ha!

I'm married and in the process of adding a mistress.
How fucked am I?

>>689956280
Similar experience with women. My mother is a manipulative cunt.

>>689956504

He's mexican and has a massive family, at 300 dollars a head it adds up pretty quick

>>689956586
Not really if you do it right. I think most guys do shit on the side. probably better to stick with hookers though since they won't try to blackmail you later.

>>689956435
Because it was a fun day. Our friends and family flew out, we all had a big get-together and a generally very pleasant time.
I'd agree that the money spent on the majority of cookie cutter weddings is a bit of a waste, but doing something a little different is worth it.

>>689955000
Where do men have those rights?

>>689956682
Fair enough.

>>689956586
The problem is fella, is that eventually they start to fall for you. You don't end it at the right time and it gets messy. Know the right time to call it off, even if it's some 'just for fun' deal.

>>689956018
Oh yeah when i was young and stupid i kept going after sluts and trash. I fucked this one girl her friend and the friends sister all in one week. Then dated the sister. Then wondered why she cheated on me in the end like a dumbass. Realized if they're easy they're worthless and it was my fault for going after them.

>>689956280
At least you admit you're the problem and not women.

>>689955364
Wow. What fucking state is that? I didn't think we had those rights anywhere in 'Murrica at least.

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>>689954927
Aww, see you on here in 5 years talking about killing yourself.
>mfw these young boys always learn the hard way
Dont knock her up anon

>>689957072
Good lesson learned. If you can pick one up in a club or with next to no effort, that's exactly the type you'll get - some cheap slut.

>>689949886
It used to be a good thing back when women were obedient, stayed at home, cooked, cleaned, and raised children. Now everything's supposed to be 50/50 or in a lot of cases, women put 100% on the man. The whole idea of marriage actually being a decent idea for a male went out the window a long time ago.

>>689956586
Im married and about to get a 2nd wife that so happens to be my wife's best friend.
>1 man with many women is the natural way

>>689957277
Now im this guy
>>689957291

>>689957291
That's a lot of pubic hair shavings clogging up yer drains is how I see it. Too many women = plumbing issues. Don't be that guy.

Also, married men live longer.

>>689957278
>not finding an obedient woman who cooks, cleans, and raises your children.
This is still the standard. Only idiots try that 59/50 bullshit.

>>689949886
are you an Orlando survivor?

>>689957496
I got shit for that and they clean up after themselves because both are quality women.

>>689956598

My nigga. Was your father also your hero? My father was fucking flawless.

>>689950913
Suggested toys for peg-related activities?

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Faggots, just go to Finland and you'll find a woman that's pretty & cares for you & will have children with you and she won't be some depression wierdo bitch.

I live in Sweden, ez pz goals 4 me.

Oh yeah, I know how you feel OP. In my case: Married too soon, kids too soon, kinda lost friends, max 2 times sex a month. But yeah realizing my life would probably go to hell without her, cause instable as fuck. Shes not bad per se, she's actually a good woman, independant and stuff, but I keep wondering what if.. If we didn't have kids, my decision would have been made I guess, but for now I kinda keep on hoping, things will get better.. whatever.. :D

>>689957496

Plumber here, this guy is right

>>689957751
If he was flawless he wouldnt have married that shrew of a woman

Because I miss her when she's not around
Because I like looking at her face
Because she has a great ass
Because when she cries it reminds me I still feel stuff

>>689950047
Basically this. Theyre awful, i hate my gf

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>>689956435
The more I thought about it, the more I agreed with
>>689956875
We're planning on having a huge picnic. The ceremony will only be about 20 minutes, if that. The rest of the day will have bag toss, bocce ball, volleyball. Food is typical Wisconsin grilled food (brats, burgers, hot dogs) and plenty of beer. It's gonna be awesome.

>>689957258
Not planning on it. I got a vasectomy. I'll see you in 5 years talking about how awesome it is to actually find a good woman in a sea of harpies.
>pic related

>>689957893
I didn't sign up for these feels anon

>>689957751
Lucky you. It was/is a competition between my parents to see who is the biggest piece of shit. I think I hate my father more than my mother, but they're such garbage that there's no point comparing them.

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>>689957893
>when she cries it reminds me i feel stuff
This too damn much, anon.

>>689949886
My gf wakes me up every morning and asks to duck in the shower and instead of looking through my phone when im sleeping she likes to take pictures if her naked self on my phone so idk

>>689957737
I dunno brother, I value my pipes - a second would have to be pretty special before I'd risk it. Or bald, one of those people with no hair at all. That would do it, she can draw on eyebrows and buy a wig. I think I've cracked it, cheers man.

>>689957142
>At least you admit you're the problem

Absolutely. I have a hard fucking time noticing signs that I need to GTFO. There does seem to be a pretty thick concentration of women who no sense of responsibility and are only out to help themselves though.

>>689957982
>You hate yourself for your poor choices in women
FTFY

>>689957893
Jesus... Why don't you go check if they reopened Pulse.

>>689958223
This is true too. I want to leave her but my gf is truly mentally ill, and im afraid she will kill herself.

Wat do?

>>689958204
Ill agree with that. It takes work to weed out the garbage but its also really easy too.

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>>689958001
>i have a vasectomy
Hahahaha
See you in 3 years
Hahahaha
Oh man, youre kill me. I aint mad because im not about to marry a woman who has societial expectations that i cant live up to.
>i got a vasectomy
3 years tops anon

>>689958350
Dissapear, man. Move and cut off all contact. It is literally the only way to get rid of real crazy.
>been there, done that, got the T-shirt

>>689957893
I wanted to mock this but I kind of get it. Begrudging well done to you.

>>689958350
...Sounds like a "her" problem, not a "me" problem.

>>689957777
Ahem* quads. Suggestions pl0x

>>689958350
This
>>689958518
Leave her and understand that if she does an hero, it's 100% because she was crazy not because of you.

>>689958287
What is gay about what I just said? Are you insecure about your sexuality, anon?

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>>689958369
>societial expectations
wtf are you even babbling about? What "societial" expectations have I even mentioned? Jesus christ, no wonder you hate women, most of them probably can't stand you.

>>689950047
>>689949886

1. Companionship
2. Having someone to trust with all your secrets
3. The good feelings you get from helping to take care of someone else.

Often, its hard to find someone you can stand to be around that long, or someone you can really trust.

I will assert this with confidence: Find someone with a hobby (that isn't destructive or too expensive), and you will have found yourself a decent person to be with for the rest of your life.

It is NOT easy to find someone with a real hobby in this day and age, because they're busy enjoying their hobby and not out fishing for men.

>>689957816
>Faggots, just go to Finland...

I keep hearing non-US women are so much better.

Any opinion on Swiss women? I have solid connections there. It's rare to see anything less than a 7/10. Especially in Zurich.

>>689958581
I don't know, maybe coming out of the fucking closet first might help you open your eyes and asshole to some new ideas.

>>689958826
Topkek

>>689958761
hes referring to the whole women wanting children thing, but hes still a faggot

>>689957854
My mom is good at keeping her insanity covered up until you are in too deep. I've seen her do it to 6 or so times. Not dads fault.

>>689951995
You just keep on dating and dumping til you get the right one. It's not rocket appliances.

>>689958743
Sorry, I'm just a cynical piece of shit.

>>689958761
>>689958761
>he doesnt understand married women crave children
Aww anon, surely you have thought about this. Dude listen, about 3 years after you are married your wife is gonna start dropping subtle hints about children, she will. You can't provide that for her unless you get it reversed, if you dont get it reversed she will leave you. It happens. But what do i know, it isnt like i thought about my ex wife like you do now.
>pro tip: people change, no exceptions