>>689755658
you just do it faggot

>>689756060
I will fucking do it m8

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Workout. Weight lifting. Worked for me better than anything. Stay away from anti depressant meds if you can, their side effects can indirectly make you feel worse sometimes. Go on them as a last resort though. Good luck.

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>>689755658

Get high. Stay high.

Kys
K
K

>>689755658
Do it
Also livestream it for us nigger

>>689755658
Physical activity and if you do it right meds

Had depression most of my adult life. 27 now, life still sucks but i don't feel the weight of depression like i used to. Taking like 5000mcg vitamin D3 a day seems to have helped significantly, YMMV

>>689756173
Very bad. One of the few side effects confirmed by every study is heavy weed use can cause depression. I researched this heavily as I've been a toker for 22 years, and battling clinical depression for 15-20 years.

>>689755658

Take pills. Only be ready to get complacent after they kick in, to the point of questioning if you're not better off without them.

(protip: you're not)

Down the whole Anti-Depressent pill bottle, you will never be depressed again. Also do it on livestream

>>689756173
No way. Weed will make it worse unless you are with people.
Op, spend time outside in the sun. First step

>>689755658
Don't listen to b
That's how

>>689755658
What are you depressed about first?

>>689756524
Yup. I feel they make me feel nothing as opposed to depressed. But then I get depressed for feeling nothing.

Sucks having to fake emotions for things like my son's birthday, etc.

>>689755658
>still using that meme
Kys

>>689756514
>confirmed by every study

lol lol lol
"every study" by white guys in lab coats sponsored by corporations who CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF OF WEED

"every study" = manipulative bullshit

>>689755658
you're neither brilliant nor depressed. you just realized that you have no real character, and you think depression adds depth to a person; couple that with a little bit of narcissism, and you conclude that, since plenty of actually brilliant people suffered from depression, you must also be brilliant.

you've taken a dangerous detour on the road to self-realization, and you need to turn the fuck around. think back to when you didn't give any fucks about what other people thought about you and try to remember what made you you. not what made you unique, because you're probably not; most of us aren't. but you were you at some point. you just need to figure out when, and start back from there.

you'll be fine, just stop trying to label your identity crisis; that just enables you to stop looking for a real solution while you wallow in undeserved self-pity.

Don't be an L7 Weenie and just end it

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>>689756173
Fuck thats true, sucks but true
>pic related

>>689756514
Causes depersonalization in some, shit can defiantly trigger dormant mental illness

>>689757109
No, this was a side effect listed even on studies showing cancer fighting abilities of weed.

Stop thinking like a stupid fuck high school stoner.

>>689757136
look at this homo.

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>>689755658
cannabis - terrence mckenna
exercise - jim wendler
relationship - jiddu, krishnamurti
work - ludwig von mises

>>689757329
>Stop thinking like a stupid fuck high school stoner.

lol x10
High school was 40 years ago.
I'm still high. I'm still happy.
Enjoy your clinical depression and mindfuck pills.

>>689757533
yeah, lol by 10 guy

>>689757533
Then you're just a retarded old fuck.
Let me guess, still a neet?

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>>689757109
>Normie
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>689757523
>relationship - jiddu krishnamurti

my nigga

all these people shit talking a flower that grows in the garden next to the potatos google soft drugs
considering its the reason you can talk at all

>>689757721
>>689757739

[Laughter]

>>689755658

just learn to live with it... and I think that death is more depressing then life, so I cant kill myself

>>689755658
find people you can trust(its even hard without depression but for many depressive people nearly inpossible) i want to kill myself for 14 years now (without Anti-Depressiva Pills i would be dead, they also can make Depressions worster or drive you to suicide first weeks). Now i have a shitty job (1,400-1600 euros per month) and still try to make my drivers license

I doubt you're some kind of genius, but there is truth to knowledge causing depression

"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow;
the more knowledge, the more grief."
Ecclesiastes 1:18

>>689756173
Oh god i wish i could.
If the army allowed us to use weed it would be fucking wonderful.
If a god exists then i pray to that god, that weed be nationally legalized sooner rather than later, or never.
I need this so damned much.

>>689757329
this was a possible side effect observed in a statistically significant number of participants. That doesn't mean that weed causes depression.

it DOES means that some people in the study suffered from depression after smoking a lot of weed.

it DOESN'T mean that weed had anything to do with it.

there's an important difference between causation and correlation, and, unfortunately, it's a difference that goes largely unappreciated by most people who 'research' things. hell, even mainstream media get it wrong almost all the time. treating the two as the same is a common tactic used by biased parties pushing their own agenda rather than trying to reach an objective conclusion.

could weed cause depression, sure. DOES weed cause depression? we don't know.

>>689756804

That must suck. I'm just feeling lightly like a total failure for most of the time. But really lightly. Can't help smiling though, which might be an issue.

>>689755658
not give a fuck

>>689755658
Depression comes with intelligence when things are the way they are.

>>689755658
Well, due to the fact that clinical forms of depression vary to varying degrees... there are various ways/reasons why one doesn't, cannot, or are able to not kill themselves.

I just had the perfect storm. I'm predisposition to "meditate" as much as I am predisposition to feel real bad sometimes. I've never stopped my depression- I've just learned to cope with it. I've learned how to work it in my favor. I've learned how to be happy, while never being happy. Sometimes drugs work for people. There are an assload or ways people work it out...

I guess just scan the thread for unironic posts.

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>>689757113
Hell yeah.

>>689755658
>Brilliant mind

I'm hardly brilliant. Moderately above average if anything.
But i do have depression.

Weed really, really helps though.
I had been depressed for so long that as an unwilling defence I'd lost most emotional feeling about anything; good, bad, compliments, insults, I feel almost nothing for anything, like touching something with gloves on - the sensation is there, undoubtedly, but at a fraction of what it was. What it should be.

For so long it feels, i was stuck in this grey limbo, a functioning zombie, dragging myself through the day... after day... after day...

But then i started weed and it was astounding; i was able to feel again.
Properly, like i used to. Things were interesting, entertaining; I'm capable of feeling alive when i was so convinced everything was permanently dead inside.

Now things are very slowly getting better. THC has given me the gasp of air i needed to keep going; it let me feel things again and I'm very glad it exists.

>>689756157
Im to depressed to go the pharmacy and buy antidepressives
>>689756173
I don't know who sells it in my city i don't have many friends
>>689756234
I'd do it if there was painless way and i had no family to make sad
>>689756442
Im 24 i will ask for that if i managed to go out
>>689756524
Im to depressed to go see a doctor that would give me pills
>>689756692
I have acne scars staying under the sun makes me feel i am freddy Krueger
>>689756723
All the people i grew up with are already married with college degrees meanwhile i have a shitty job i look like I'm still in highschool even if I'm 24 my ex dumped 4 years ago i dont blame her i was depressing her but i haven't kiss a girl after her
>>689756916
I don't have other meme
>>689757113
I used to be brilliant in highschool i stopped being myself at 14 depression got me a few years later i work cleaning people shit literally for a shitty salary and when im not working i play vidiogames i haven't even shower in months and I don't really care i just put alot of deodorant
I want to go back to how i used to be before 14 but i just cant i dont know what happened to me
>>689758051
Death looks pretty good to me
>>689758228
People around me get depressed for the way i talk so they stay away and i don't blame them and dude my salary is 700 euro monthly i live with that i have drive license and a car but shit doesn't get better when your soul is filled with depression
>>689758854
I guess i have to learn how to live with it

>>689758615
no. it doesn't come with it.

depression among intelligent people is usually the result of overstimulation during puberty/early adulthood. individuals don't learn to accept and appreciate the world around them because they never have to; as a result, when there's no more 'new' and 'exciting', they're left feeling empty and unfulfilled. it's not because they're intelligent; it's because they're impatient.

the reason it seems to be a product of intelligence is because the idiots (i.e. most people on the planet, and, by extension, most people here) never run out of things that are new and exciting.

>>689758228
With English skills like that... No wonder you're in a shit job. You probably should kys.

>>689759823

>Im to depressed to go see a doctor that would give me pills

Hope not. I was a few seconds away from killing myself before I decided to run to the doctor for help and it's a decision I made again a few years later (a couple months ago). If you're too depressed, you can only end your life, but as long as you don't you can always choose to go for help.

>>689759948
wat

>>689758326
Fairy tails =\= truths. What's more depressing than grown adults worshiping a dead jew? Literally nothing.

>>689756157
>Weight lifting.
I wish every lifter bro would stop touting this as the solution to every fucking thing.

>>689755658
Idk maybe grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your own experiences rather than just bitching about your first-world pampered existence that you are too ungrateful and ignorant to even understand, let alone appreciate.

Fuck off.

>>689755658
>my life is so bad, i have a suburban house to live in, i'm in highschool and get good grades, my parents are together and we have a 2-stall garage with 3 vehicles. i have siblings and pets and pretty much get anything i want
>I have a long life ahead of me too


its like ur living in ethiopia.. i would kill myself too if my life were like that. make sure you donate your rig to someone beforehand

>>689755658
The depression is an indirect result of your special snowflake syndrome. It makes you unbearable to be around, and people don't want to be seen with you either.

There is only one cure gentlemen.

>chase your dreams
>follow your heart over the advice of others
>love many women

Even then you will not cure it. But you will have lived.
I challenge all of my fellow depressee' anons to do the same.

>>689760512
Vigorous exercise is not the solution to everything, but it is the solution to depression.

>>689760512

It helps, you'd be surprised. It's not a full-on solution if the depression gets too severe but it can brighten up a good chunk of your day.

>>689760817

Difficult to do any of that when you feel worthless.

>>689760512
You need endorphins if you're depressed, and exercising causes the body to produce those, so it looks like you're just a sad neckbeard that can't handle that his weight is the cause of his chronic depression

>>689761020
>>689761056
>be me
>severely depressed
>get told to lift weights
>"it helps"
>start going to gym regularly with roommate
>feel just as shitty only now i'm tired all the time
>and sweaty
>now i'm depressed and sweaty and spending money on a gym membership i don't want
>suicide doesn't look so bad now

No. It doesn't help everyone.

Shrooms.

Not even joking. They're even currently being researched for treatment in depression/anxiety/PTSD.

>>689761754
>weight

I'm 175lbs. So fat.

Lexapro

>>689761954
Heard this. Really want to try it but have no idea how to get them/what they look like.

Heard that people get them from fields nearby but don't even know what to look for.

>>689755658
Intelligence allows you to see the world much more clearly and as it is.
Explain to me why this wouldn't cause depression

You can start by not thinking you're brilliant just because the jocks in your highachool and their girlfriends were airheads

Then you can stop sitting in a room all day making excuses

Depression is an exaggerated side effect of hubris and feeling sorry for yourself

Get a life

>>689762242
This guy gets it

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>>689755658
FULLY SATISFY YOUR BASIC INSTINCTS. IT WORKS

>>689760331
a grown adult feeling the need to disparage a historical figure based on their race/ethnicity/religion. it's depressing that religion exists; it's no more depressing that jesus was a hebrew/jew than had he been a greek

>>689762170

shroomery.org has an answer for just about any question you'd have on 'em. As for getting them, if you don't have a dealer you can grow your own by buying the spores online (only illegal certain places).

>>689762549
That looks like a great link, thanks anon.

>>689755658
What makes you think you are brilliant? I'm genuinely curious. I dealt with my clinical depression clinically, I.e. by taking pills, so I can vouch for their efficacy. Find yourself a good psychiatrist; no price is too high to get your life back on track. Some pills can make you feel like shit, so it is important that you find the right medication and dosage by trail and error and by working with your psychiatrist. Depression is difficult to deal with but it's not impossible to beat.

get some niggers to beat you with crowbars or something

>>689762170
be careful with this, anon. while psilo is being researched as a treatment, uncontrolled doses have also been linked to exaggerating depression and bi-polar disorder. not saying it will happen to you, but it could.

>>689762725

My pleasure. Happy hunting /b/ro.

>>689758431
Wait a tick can't see the face but I may know this person.

>>689761923

Sorry to hear that.

>>689759823
i went through depression for a few months where i always thought about killing myself from when i woke up and when i went to sleep. i literally went to sleep thinking about killing myself. i have a google slides presentation i made for oral com choc full of things that will help or should help because they made me the positive person i am today.

i can share the presentation to anyone interested.

it's all in the mind man. fix your mind to fix your life.

do sex on some grils.

>>689763351
I'm interested.

>>689761954
>Shrooms.

Anon is wise.

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>>689761954

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and voila, it's gone

I was depressed in my late teens and thought I was so much smarter than most people too, then I realized that's how most people on the planet probably feel and think so I'm probably just average or slightly above intelligence wise, then I started doing things beside playing games and feeling sorry and I was happy with life, then I realized depression isn't really real, it's just a state of mind where you overestimate yourself and then get sad and disappointed when things don't go your way

>>689755658
hard shroom trip
6g dark room silence

>>689763351

My bullshit-o-meter is tingling.

>>689762070
75 extra pounds on a four foot frame that should really weigh around 100 pounds is sad

>>689761923
Hah look at the broken one

>>689763666
>Stop feeling sorry for yourself and voila, it's gone
no satan, depression is a bit more extreme than that, it's not just a case of being a bit unhappy. i was stuck in an intense depression for 6 years, only meds got me out of it.

>>689763770
I'm 3'11 actually m8

>>689763901
Yes, people are depressed for years because they refuse to do anything about it

There's nothing extreme about depression it's just a shield to not fix yourself

>>689764170
thanks, i'll tell my doctor.

stop being so 12, anon. not everyone is you.

>>689755658
Cannabis.

>>689759948
It would make more sense if you explain it better
>>689760265
I don't know how close i am to kill myself i have planned it but i haven't done it i guess I'm a coward
>>689760660
I've been a big part of my life in a third world country i know the shit that happens there and it only makes me feel more depressed
>>689760680
My life is not like that I live alone i work to eat and pay bills I've been trying to pass the first year of college for 4 years now college is free where i live
>>689760737
That explains why everyone close to me left me
>>689761923
This is so true I've been in gym before
>>689761954
I'm actually going to try DMT i will starve myself for a week so i can buy some
>>689762242
Pretty much this
>>689762406
Lol You sound like my ex gf
>>689762431
Yeah my instincts tell me to buy guns and walk through the streets killing everyone on sight until a cop shoot me

Anyone else here have BPD?
Why haven't you killed yourselves today?

>>689755658
With a bullet.

Best to take your depression out back and put it out of it's misery.

By depression I mean go out take your issues in the backyard and kill them and leave them there/ Then walk back in the house and know if you ever want to be depressed they are all outside waiting for you to visit.

Killing yourself is never an answer.

>>689763901
You remind me of the episode 9 promo for game of thrones

"I've fought the living dead in freezing temperatures this guy can't be as bad"
>you don't know ramsay, he raped and hit me for a week so Everyone else's problems pale in comparasson to me please feel sorry for me

What I'm saying is most people go through depression in their lives and you're not special at all, you're just a whiny bitch that wants people to feel sorry for you instead of changing

Those meds might have taken away the symptoms but your thinking is still the root problem and you haven't changed

This thread is tl;dr but here's my 2 cents based on the picture the OP posted.

Cut the narcissism. You're not fucking brilliant just because you were ahead of your dumbass school classes. What exactly have you contributed to the advancement of society? "Brilliant minds" are such because they have devoted their lives and studied all the information available until they at the pinnacle of knowledge within their field, and are therefore in a position to critically analyse and possibly advance knowledge in the area.

This takes hard work, and OP you will never get there with your fucking woe is me attitude.
Stay depressed faggot, and enjoy your "brilliant mind".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KvcNVgxKSc

>>689760680
Relativity they don't know how shitty they got it so they have no experience to bounce it off... Libtard

>>689761923
Have you experienced gains yet?

This may sound fucked up, but I cured my depression with intense narcissism. I don't know when the switch happened but one day I woke up and I looked really really good, and from then on my life was completely about getting shredded and seeing myself look better and better. I mean I feel like its way better to spend an hour staring at myself in the mirror thinking "you fucking did that you beautiful fucker" instead of staring down a gun barrel thinking "just fucking do it you useless fucker"

>>689764624
wow anon, it's amazing that you know so much about me, i mean all you have is a couple of sentence on an imageboard.
thanks for your appraisal though. oddly i didn't think any of what you said was accurate, it all sounds completely wrong, but who am i to argue with such confident assertions?
you've saved my life. i'm throwing those meds away and filing a formal complaint about my doctor. it's humiliating how wrong she has things. thankyou, my savior.

>>689763666
>>689764170
Uh... depression is more than a state of mind... you're just talking about being dejected/feeling down/being disappointing/having high expectations/angst/etc, all of which could or could not stem from a series of experiences as opposed to a physical issue in health.

Most forms of depression are primarily clinical, i.e. they are primarily due to chemical imbalances, obstructions, growths, or the like. You can't... just change this by thinking about it, when you lack the ability to distribute the appropriate things to make a feel good feeling happen. I think you're more accurate in saying that you feel you're just average, than slightly above the perceived mean intelligence... or else... well, you wouldn't be saying some of what you just said.

It's a science, depression. Chemically, Biologically (often Neurologically), and Psychologically. You can't get over genuine PTSD or genuine irrational fears, across the board, just by snapping your fingers.

>>689765017
And here is another shield "depressed" people use when they're called out on their shit

If you told your grandpa why you were depressed he'd probably slap you like the bitch you are and call you a woman

>>689763538
>>689763748
https ://docs .google .co m/a /stu.p c ssd . org/prese ntation/d/ 1r8fmjcx1VE K QrkUKnTNKj8yWFYmPZr-cqp-evoB9mq8/ htmlpres ent

>>689757739
Look at this scumbag who can't except different weeds effect different people differently.

>>689762739
Honestly right now I'm not brilliant i feel that vidiogames and my job are killing my brain cells i feel more and more stupid everyday but i think i was brilliant i dont know i felt like i could see beyond of what most people were able to see i speak three languages i see chains of events happening in everyday life and i can sometimes predict what's going to happen by seeing them i used to fully understand any subject easily no matter if it was maths electronic or literature just following common sense

>>689765445
my grandpa died decades ago. i'm middle-aged and going blind due to brain lesions. but thankyou anon. god, all these years i've been seeing doctors, all i needed was a know-it-all kid on an imageboard. still, it's all over. what a relief.

>>689765477
take out the spaces
sorry in advance for the typos but theres tons of good stuff in there. and don't read one slide and judge it from there, read the whole fucking thing and get a new perspective

>>689763351
Pretty much like me i everyday go to sleep hoping a heartache during sleep will kill me but i always fucking wake up I'll check the slides thanks anon

>>689765445
Projecting much?

>>689758431
If you are the person in the picture and you are who I think you are hang in there things will get better.

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>>689755658
Seek mental health counseling no shame in it nothing to loose don't be afraid to take a chance on a happy life seek mental health counseling today.

>>689765256
Yes it's a science , you have less of x in your brain or more of a x, and just like an infection it doesn't get better by moping around like a little bitch about it, and don't fucking compare ptsd to depression you pompous little bitch

>>689765676
>get a new perspective
anyone who wants this... yo, seriously, check out Alan Watts on youtube. dude was a fkn genius, and i guarantee your perspective on fkn everything will be unrecognizable.

>>689764970
Not the same guy but it's funny you mention that. I'm weighed down with depression and anxiety issues which plague my whole life (I'm 27 and still working for minimum wage because I can't even handle job interviews without getting in a panic state and fucking up my chances). But at the same time I'm massively narcissistic. Genuinely believe I'm hot shit but I'm held back by the other shit going on in my head.

And then on top of that, I'm aware that all this is going on. It's fucking weird, man.

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>>689766117
dammit anon, shush. it's a big world outside of your bedroom.

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>>689766276
It was me I admit it.

>>689765621
> I can speak 3 languages

Welcome to 4th grade in Europe mate I can speak Swedish German Spanish American and French

Brilliant my ass you're the fucking definition of a high school kid that thinks he's smarter than everyone

Guess what, those things you mentioned is the norm. EVERYONE CAN DO THAT

>>689765922
And if not then they can go fuck themselves?

>>689755658
There's no on/off switch, the truth is you have to gradually work on improving your life until you're at a place you want to be

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>>689765635
So you're in your 40s and you're acting like a 17 year old going through his "I hate people I'm smarter than everyone" phase?

Fuck sake

>>689766289
Yeah it is so stop feeling sorry for yourself and explore it

>>689765477
Permission needed, m8

>>689766534
Hahaha no they can still hang in there.

1. are you the person in the photo ?

2.If you are that person then do you ride a motorcycle ?

>>689766656
>being this upset that you look like a fool
everyone fucks up sometimes anon. go spend some good boy points, tendies will make it all better.

>>689766753
wat

how is it that you think you know anything about me? are you high?

whatever bruh. you keep raging., you know everything after all.

>>689766811
Sorry bud, unrelated to the person in the photo or even to the person who posted the photo. Saw an opportunity to be facetious and I took it.

>>689766777
give me your email

>>689766823
I'm not the one that has more in common with a preteen cutting herself than I do with my peers mate, I'd tell you to kill yourself but you probably would and your, Hm, dog? Would be sad I guess

>>689764281
Do that last one. Record it

>>689766500
Well I'm not brilliant then are you happy now? I really don't care about people insulting me i have no ego and no reactions anymore also you're probably right

>>689766990
>you're so deluded anon there's a word outside your bedroom
>why don't you go outside yours then
>waaaah stop attacking me you don't know me

>>689767078
i can't tell if you're really this upset, or just learning to troll. the fuck did you expect? you gallop into a thread and insist that you know better than everyone's doctor, and you're surprised that people think you're an angsty kid?

>>689755658
You don't. Ever.

>>689767258
i do go out, i've only just got home.

i think i must be missing the point here or something. surely nobody is this 12

>>689760164
>euros

perhaps english isnt his first language? maybe you kys

>>689767000
>Saw an opportunity to be facetious and I took it.
It's ok your doing your duty as a person of /b/

>>689767171
No shit I'm right youre what, in your early 20s? I'm speaking from experience here, you'll grow out of it and the depression will soon follow, it did for me atleast

Don't beat yourself up, it's just a phase. Cheer up, beautiful person

>>689766117
I'm sorry, but PTSD and depression are valid comparisons when discussing how or what depression is, and what the basis of its functioning in human adults amount to; they can be brought on by similar affect, and include similar processes. PTSD is
>post-traumatic
>stress
>stress
>disorder
>post-traumatic stress disorder
>stress
>depression
>anxiety
>etc

I also... didn't... dispute that depression is both of physical and mental phenomenon. It's incredibly valid to suggest that when someone acts in a fashion to encourage the biological process of positive reinforcement, often, the body will begin to naturally balance itself out, and the depression will lessen as you receive the proper "x". But, this isn't always the case, hence my deliberate attempt to distinguish the fact that there can be several different reasons or factors for any given individual.

I also suffer from PTSD, just saying. I know a thing or two about it. I also know you're making quite a few Freudian slips there, pompous.
>>689767258

>>689756514
it assits psychological illness it does not creat it you were depressed before.

btw when did you start ?

if you start smoking heavy pre18-19 it really effects the cemistry of your brain and deals a lot of damage

>>689767350
Your doctor gets paid by people that go to the hospital with a sprained ankle mate, they might know better than most of us but that doesn't mean everything they say and do is what's best for you

>>689757523
Post more tits.

>>689767708
...but it worked. nothing else worked, but the meds the doc gave me did.

Jesus

>>689766777
ht tps://do cs.goog le.co m/ presentation/d/1Q0u ZG73XZzw heS8IVzXdmNf 5PWgAC 0PL YTQADHWFd84/edit?usp=sharing

>>689767513
>I have ptsd
I don't want to imply you don't have real ptsd but I sure hope it's not "the girl I loved humiliated me in front my friends" ptsd

If it hurts to hit yourself in the head with a hammer maybe you should just stop instead of taking Advil

>>689767823
Yes because it's their job to help you

It's kind of like certain brands of toothpaste that take away the problems but weaken your teeth so you have to brush more and therefor buy more of it

>>689755658
Dr Michio Kaku wrote a book its quiet amazing all the new tech coming out for the brain.
Prety much is an imbalance between the id and superego. You have to get it to balance for that you need to program your subcouncious mind which control all that you cant control everyday.
How to do it requires a team full of people coaching you every step. No one has the time for that but one day it will be fixed

>>689767505
Yeah I'm 24 and thanks man

>>689768324
holy shit that sounds like unscientific new age bullshit

did he lose his fucking mind?

>>689755658
Bleach helps.

In large quantities.

I'm depressed because I've been thinking about how pointless existence in general is. Existence literally has no purpose and could disappear without a trace changing literally nothing but the form of matter. Everything that exists is temporary. Why live a life of pain when you and everyone you know and love will one day die and be forgotten?

I honestly don't know why I haven't just killed myself. Maybe it's that part of me that's still somewhat human, that doesn't like to see people around me upset, and i'm afraid that if I do kill myself they will all be terribly sad, or maybe it's the animal instinct convincing me to live for arbitrary reasons of existence without purpose/ I have no idea.

The fact is that I'm not particularly unhappy. It's the fact the one day I'm going to die, and i won't remember that I was happy at all. Eventually no one will remember me. Why even continue existence when there is no point to it? It isn't even very enjoyable. Sex, drugs, comedy, action, reward, dopamine, serotonin, Oxytocin, and Endorphins, not of it matters in the end, because what awaits us is the inevitable death and subsequent lack of conscious existence. That realization shattered me and left me a husk of my former self. At least back then I had reasons to be sad.

Money problems, stress from work and relationships, fear of rejection, or not meeting standars, of disappointing. Now it's just my existential existence that cripples me with hopelessness. It's not even the pointlessness of myself, or life in general, but of all things that exist. Every single Atom that has ever formed into a complex structure, has absolutely no purpose at all. It simply is, without purpose, and will eventually return to a base form with absolutely no change to anything except it's form, and the form of it's sister atoms.

Even worse so is life itself, because we somehow realize that we exist.

I dream of ignorance, really.

>>689768311
why can't you just accept that you're wrong anon? there are billions of people in wildly different cultures than your own, yet you with one mash of your keyboard can make the entire world happy? the world is gonna maul you, you're so hopelessly innocent and ignorant.

yo i tried everything. i mean, fuckin' everything. i tired saving money, i tried spending money, tried moving house and getting a new car, stopped drinking and using drugs, tried evening classes, went out partying, got a new car, new gf after a few one-nighters, improved family relationships,. made a shitload of new friends by just talking to everyone who crossed my path, went to CBT, shrinks, therapists, hookers, tried heroin and crack addiction, tried becoming a stoner... none of it changes the fact that i can only see out of three quarters of my one remaining eye, and that within 10 years i'll be dead.

>>689768791
No bro that my opinion after reading the book

>>689768809
15 year old bullshit pseudo edgy philosophy

free yourself from that shit son

>>689768928
Maybe slowly destroying yourself is part of the reason you're depressed

And what are you talking about, rest of the world. Depression is a first world issue

>>689768054
>"the girl I loved humiliated me in front my friends"
No. I mean, if you want a sob story, I'll shitpost...

I got beat as a kid, proper. A lot. Lots of yelling and things sailing through the air, too. Good old fashioned "fuck my childhood up fam". Locked in the basement almost every month by 2nd-born when there was no parental authority, to the point where by age 6, I was no longer afraid of the dark; I literally had to stare into it and realize that "the boogeyman" was just me being stupid. For hours on end, until my sibling gave up holding the door shut. Turns out they had Schizophrenia, and it didn't help that they began acting out on the youngest child who's credibility was almost nonexistent. Despite all that, I'm more or less a functional human being.

Minus being, sometimes, over-sensitive to loud noises or quick motions. It's gotten better over the years.

>>689769065
Everything is pointless. Life's only purpose is what me give it.

So why live a life of unhappiness at all?

>>689756804
uh, if you're still depressed after taking pills then you need to try new pills...

>>689755658
kill someone else

>>689766500
>american

shiggy diggy

>>689769158
i fell sorry for you tbh anon. you're so wrong yet so sure you know everything that it's more than a little cringe. but nm, you have fun.

>>689769205
Wow your brothers an asshole, and your parents are too, sorry man

>>689769573
Hey whatever makes you feel like you're in the right, at the end of the day I'm happy with my life and by current outlooks have decades ahead of me

Sorry you're dying though, must suck living with a countdown

>>689769240
the purpose of life is giving it a purpose

95% of life is pain and work it's the remaining 5% that should keep you happy

I am suffering froom depression as well but I would never give up or kill myself but thats propbably because I am not afucking pussy.

Fight for the life you want sont just sit there and wait for it to fall from the sky.

kill a nigger, be come an hero before you an hero

>>689769205
Big trauma anon but pretty much we all have our traumas and i guess that's what makes us what we are worse traume or not worse seems to be relative

>>689756804
>I feel they make me feel nothing as opposed to depressed
yeah iktfb. it was exactly what i needed though. on seroxat, quetiapine and diazepam. i spent the whole of 2013 and 2014 in bed, i'd just get up to bathe and eat. 7 months into the meds though and i can go out, have a drink, have... something comparable to fun and generally function in a way that i couldn't before. at 6ft3 i was down to 120lbs after those 2 years in bed. doc said i had a couple of weeks to live had i not gone to hospital. now i eat every day,. have a gf, met shitloads of new friends... s'all good.

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>>689755658
Maximum faggot you're asking something like how to cut my head w/o killing myself?
>protip you can't

>>689769205
Fuck man, I feel for you. I used to get proper beaten as a child as well. Like my stepdad would hit me like I was a grown man when I was a weedy 11 year old.

I got hit by a car while riding my bike to school when I was like 13. I was knocked clear and ended up being fine except for some bruising, but the bike was totaled. His appropriate response was to beat the living shit out of me for wrecking my bike, disown me and take away my TV and computer. I was only allowed downstairs to eat dinner and any time he walked past me in the house he'd slap me around the back of the head or shove me into a wall.

I ended up moving out/running away. It was either that or slit the cunt's throat in his sleep.

>>689770199
Or call the police

>>689768809
Are you a girl?

Be clean of all substances for at least a month, even the legal stuff. ESPECIALLY perscribed stuff.

>>689770199
>>689769205
I've got that beat

I was the middle child

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There's an old proverb that resounds with me rather solid: Idle hands are a devil's workshop. Rather, more specifically, an idle mind is your worst enemy. The key to coping with Depression, clinical or otherwise, is to make yourself busy. Whether you pick up a job, pick up hobbies, do menial work or play games non-stop, make sure you spend more of your time busy and absorbed in concentration with what you're doing to hopefully keep you distracted. Even if you don't enjoy it, as long as you try to keep distracted, hopefully you'll be too busy to think much else.

This is where the second step to getting peace of mind comes in. Hopefully during your pursuit of trying to busy yourself as much as possible you will find something you are good at and, even more hopefully, enjoy doing. If you can find at least one thing you excel at and find a way to enjoy it, focus all of your capacity on improving on that. This can and will be your foot in the door. It's much easier said than done, obviously, but realistically speaking, you're in a lose/lose scenario regardless -- what's the point of offing yourself when you're in it as bad as it can get?

As someone who struggles with Depression, I can tell you first hand that it isn't even to cope with. Not at all. After going through Hurricane Katrina and being framed as a rapist by the first girl I ever slept with shortly after, taking a dive into the deep, dark sleep is rather enticing. Even if you may not care would affect, at least remind yourself of your parents. If you weren't so unfortunate enough, hopefully they loved each other so much that they wanted to share their lives together -- and with you, as you are the living proof of that love. Do you feel you have any regard to take your life when it was your parents that gave it to you? Does your pain supersede any and all pain your parents went through in their whole lives to where you are now? Do you know of the infinite possibilities between now and tomorrow?

>>689755658
i bet your not doing anything with your life.

>>689770601
Speak for yourself m8 look how many replies my /b/ thread got

>>689767513
I think the point anon was trying to make about not comparing the two was that sufferers of PTSD have genuine reason for chemical imbalance (the traumatic experiences) whereas depression sufferers are based on their own choices and thoughts/emotions they feel of their own free will

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>>689770562

Long story short, do your best to busy yourself. Take it one step at a time. You're going to die eventually, so there's no need to rush. There's no knowing what tomorrow brings regardless of how painful today is.

Oh, and Prozac will fuck with your head. Big time. Take it at your own risk; it will run the risk of completely screwing with you and make you do things you never otherwise would do. Also, while this may seem too D.A.R.E. to say, avoid mind-expanding drugs. It's too dangerous a rabbit hole to climb out of if you become too reliant on it (which is the true danger, not the propaganda of how "unhealthy" it is).

>>689770868
Gottim

To be fair though 99% of people on b want to feel sorry for themselves so these threads always take off

>>689755658
Honestly, depends what kind of depression you're dealing with. General mopey-ness, lack of ambition, lack of relational satisfaction? Get off your ass and do something new. Now clinical depression is just a chemical imbalance and you should go to a doctor. No shame is seeking out help.

>>689766257
You are hot shit, and the only thing holding you back is the fears in your head.

My coach used the phrase "get comfortable being uncomfortable." and I have taken that out of my gym and into my entire life. If you can get use to that feeling anxiety and depression gives you, and learn to push through it, eventually you get use to pushing through it, and I'm not going to say it goes away, it hasn't for me, but I will be damned if I'm going to let it stop me from doing what I want to do, because I am a champion in my own eyes, and I will make sure I live up to that standard I set for myself.

>>689755658
I was depressed. Drinking a bottle of vodka or more every night and shitposting loudly online. I wanted to die, literally. I felt trapped in my marriage. Trapped in life.

Friends and family begged me to leave but I felt like I couldn't. They begged me for years and I wouldn't.

One day something snapped and I told her I didn't love her anymore and that I was leaving. It destroyed her, but I didn't care. If I didn't leave I would drink myself to death.

That was 4 years ago. It only took a week for me to stop drinking or even wanting to drink. I do occasionally have a beer or two, but it's rare. I'm not an alcoholic.

I'm not depressed either, as it turns out. I'm actually a really happy guy outside of the life I thought I wanted for so long.

Have you tried changing your life, OP?

>>689768311
U wot m9

>>689768809
hey everyone check out this guys unique way of thinking and revolutionary discoveries

>>689771238

I have suffered from anxiety and depression since I was 13. This guy is right. Get comfortable being uncomfortable is exactly what you should do.

For me it was starting my own business, I had to rise up to the challenege, I had to go and work my ass off, get deals with suppliers, negotiate delivery and shipping, etc etc. I still feel anxious and depressed a lot, but now it will never stop me like it did before, never will I be paralyzed again.

PS: there's a sleep hypnosis video on youtube for anxiety by a guy who has a ton of videos like that, I tried it only once and it helped a lot, can't wait to try it more. Can't remember the name but you will surely find it, it's always top results.

>>689771781
drinking while depressed is a fucking horrific idea. i'm a few months clean and never wanna touch another drop. waking up feeling poisoned as fuck is the last thing you need if your brain is throwing a fit.

>>689770562
>tfw i play league of legends to forget about my depression and it helps i play for 10 hours straight more or less everyday and I'm bad at it im silver 3 haha
>Do you feel you haveany regard to take your life when it was your parents that gave it to you?
I feel that they couldn't know the disappointment of a son that i was going to be so i don't blame them but also never asked to be alive i know it sounds like teenager bullshit i know but it's pretty much how i see it
>>689770601
Real op here well I've been trying to pass the first year of college for 4 years so far and they say the 5 year is the right one so

>>689755658
kill yourse...oh, lol. i dunno.

>>689769573
as a neutral party here, i feel sorry that you cant recognize your hypocrisy

>>689769606
*sister
and I mean, without turning this into a confessional, I've never blamed my mother. She was the reason I wasn't just another crack-baby, a victim of neglect, a SIDS-esque fatality, or some unfortunate outcome involving living on the street. She could have killed herself from the non-stop stress; she didn't. Everyone's human, and from the get-go, you'll probably never know how to -really- treat your children, or who they'll be- especially when they become something of an adult. It was my sociopath of a father that let it all happen that way (and I'm being wholly objective when I say this).

Sucks, but what can you do. Live, and let live...

>>689770199
>>689770520
That's rough... At least you've made it here, though.

>>689770919
That's a fair point, then.

>>689771781
Im struggling into leave my shitty job to work on my own or not but my pessimistic mind is constantly telling me is a bad decision and the worst is that it's actually pretty much a bad decision

>>689772314

Stop wasting your fucking life playing LoL

The only thing you will never get back is your years.

Man the fuck up, control your life, your mind is controlling you instead of you controlling it and USING it to achieve something in life. What difference is there between you and CEOs who make millions every year? They motivate themselves to do what they want, get on that fucking level, I don't care how, find something to push you whether its a girl or a car or whatever. Get on that level.

Quit your fucking games and go get a job AND study as well, the first steps are the hardest, but it's always downhill after that. Be hard on yourself, for your own fucking good and stop being a spoiled coward.

>>689772476
no i do, but come on, my doc knows better than he does, she simply does. it's ignorant af to assume he knows better than an MD, so i decided to reciprocate in as an abrasive way as i could muster. it's a big world out there with a lot of complicated shit going on... and i've already tried the things he suggested. fuck all helped. multiple sclerosis is gonna fuck my shit up hard and there's no way to be happy about it. especially as i'll be blind for the last few years, i lost my job an my gf left all because i got ill. i don't even feel bad, i just felt... nothing. i wouldn't bother cooking food properly on the rare occasion i did eat, didnt bother looking when i crossed the road, injected heroin and crack daily... this wasn't just me being in a naff mood, i wasn't even suicidal, i couldn't find the energy to care enough to die. christ, i even got back in contact with a gril who i had a huge cr5ush on as a teen. i've spent my life wanting her. i was o depressed i couldnt even enjoy screwing her. this shit can't just be shrugged off. fuck, i even have a copy of my med records showing two failed overdoses. not everyone here is 17.

>>689764970
this, and I only have access to dumbbells atm, can't wait to get a membership in the next month

>>689766257
Have you tried btc trading, or btc cloud mining?
here https://hashocean.com/signup/?rid=704854
decent website but you gotta invest some money to actually make it worth your time (~$80)

>>689772149
link pls?

>>689774553

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpHKf4tlvFw

>>689773575
I know man I'd uninstall that game but it seems pretty pointless because then I'd get distracted by stupid videos on youtube or something else it is really hard to focus to me

>>689774964
thanks breh

>>689775070

Did you read beyond the first line?

do many people itt also have social anxiety? i used to. i thought getting over that and getting laid would help. getting a solid social network irl and dicking a qt made no difference at all.

>>689775534
Right here, bro. I have friends, seem to make friends fairly easily. Even have a girlfriend, which means sex on the regular. But somehow none of that has made an iota of difference to my social anxiety.

>>689775960
hrm. i was fucked up by anxiety for years and years. it completely vanished when i hit my late 20's. i'd always thought it was the primary cause of my depression, but apparently not. if anything it got worse.

>>689773826
im sorry about your predicament anon, i hope one day you can remember how to be happy and not just numb

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I keep hearing workout... Why does this help? Besides getting in shape? Can I be just taking long walks, a few push ups? Or like lifting and crossfit sort of shit?

>>689776317
thanks anon. i'm much better on meds, but yeah it'd be nice to feel legit happy again.

>>689776410
no crossfit unless you want to be a hunchback in 2 years.

the heavier the weight you lift the better your gonna feel

goto and /fit/ read the sticky

>>689755658
ATTENTION: depressedfags, in future please don't use this image. You're hurting your cause.

>>689755658
start working out, volunteer for a charity, supplement magnesium (helps with seratonin production), vitamin d and selen.

helped me alot. don't want to be dead anymore.

>>689776410
It does a little. Sports affect your internal biochemistry, which is right where the problem is when a clinical depression is present. It's by no means a panacea, but it does help. Forget push ups, go to the gym.

>>689776410
a) workout releases happy hormones
b) you leave your house
c) you shower regularly
d) you get a feeling of accomplishment
e) helps you fall asleep
g) makes you sleep better
etc

>>689776986
How about a solution that doesn't involve spending a chunk of what little money I have for a gym membership?

>>689778056
lang walks into jogging combined with bodyweight training at home.

>>689778387
I was genuinely expecting a response containing the word "faggot" and some other insult, so thank you. This is actually helpful.

I've started taking hikes outdoors on the regular already. Definitely feeling some improvement from that alone.

>>689755658
>>689759823
>>689764281

Embrace your misery friend, its how I get by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ani_6IRV20A

>>689756173
>Get high. Stay high.
That's difficult when they throw you in jail for possession. Being locked up is also pretty depressing.

>>689755658
smoke dope

>>689778970
same. weed helps a lot, but i could get 14 fucking years for growing and my career (what's left of it) would suffer if i got arrested for possession. F U C K the war(t) on drugs.

>>689757533
>High school was 40 years ago.
I'm still high.
Have you been constantly high for 40 years? Are you Frank Gallagher?

>>689778695
that's awesome! I'm proud of you, anon!

keep hiking and keep improving.
with every step you take you'll get a tiny little bit better. And some day you'll wake up and realize that you haven't felt as bad as you used to a few weeks ago.
Life will become better. It'll always have it's ups and downs.
Just never forget to keep going for the ups.

start exercising, just go out and run and you'll feel a lot better about yourself. gives you some routine as well, which is much needed

>>689761954
Which species of 'shroom? psilosyben?