the difference with japan is that tentacles dont kill 50 people every now and then

>>689753191
japans been about 15000 years of consistant constant aggression up untill about ohhh approximately 70 years ago

>>689753042
Haha bait that last thread rustled the fuck out of your jimmies

>>689753594
totally not bait, i just swear i dont get it man

>>689753042
Stay the fuck out of OUR debate.

>>689753460
Obama apologized for that.

>>689753953
just asking m8

>>689753042
They don't get raped by refugees all the time, and when they do, its on gun controled areas. You know shit about guns.
Police response: 6min
Armes citizen response: 5sec

>>689753953
Im sure you dont have an opinion on other countries either

>>689755195
of course everyone gets raped in europe

>>689753042
You know, in bad areas people need to be able to defend their families

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>>689753042
Why is it that only antifuns relate firearms to sexuality? Cock must be small, gun replaces cock, shove it up your ass. I don't know any gun owners who equate guns with sexuality, don't know any who get boners when shooting, don't know any who have big guns to replace small cocks.

What's the deal, liberals? Where does this idea come from? Are you just expressing personal issues through projection or are you actually mentally deficient?

>>689755563
yeah like you were sleeping with your weapon holstered and ready to shoot. bullshit

>>689755702
You know whats dumb... Ya'll think this is the average American's closet and it couldn't be further from the truth...

>>689753042
>toy ar15

I think someone has heard of the American petition to ban the AR-15

Are you even a Eurofag, OP?

>>689753042
OP's logic is heavily flawed

>>689755784
Not trying to argue, just saying people like me don't have anyone really looking out for them and I have to deal with violent people alot

>>689753042
because the only reason we're not still a british colony is because of our guns. america was created by muskets and bayonets. shooting is an integral part of american culture, and we are the best in the world at shooting other people.

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>>689753042
Wtf is your obsession with another country? You must live in the worst shithole on the planet to worry about what the US does on a daily basis.

>>689753042
why does it bother you? I don't even care where you came from. yes, you are that irrelevant.

>>689755195
>Armes citizen response: 5sec

this would go well in a loud, dark club full of drunk people

>>689754096
yeah, he like being a cuck. you can tell who has the dick in that relationship.

>>689756286
just trying to make a dumb joke with the ar15 cos its one of the few i know.

all jokes aside, srsly, why you guys like guns so much?

>>689757149
whats it like to be this stupid. to think you know the absolute outcome of any event before it happens. tiny penis suspected.

>>689753042
>fucking stupid

The Founders knew that the right to keep and bear arms was second only in importance to the right of freedom of religion, of expression and of the right to peaceably assemble.

Jew attempts to undermine the Second Amendment via false flag events such as Orlando (the perp worked for a global security company!?) are typical bullshit and should be ignored. The story is unraveling faster than a cheap sweater.

>>689757526
fun. can't understand that. too bad.

>>689753191
Japan doesn't need tentacles to kill
They already kill themselves

>>689755784
under the pillow just like grandpa used to

>>689757816
>The world is a scary, chaotic place so I call everything a false flag to make things seem orderly and to give me a sense of superiority over normal, non-retarded people

>>689757884
kek'd

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>>689753191
I find it fascinating when countries who lack the social, political, racial and religious diversity of the US attempt to apply their homogeneous outlook to American life, as though the solution that works for their one-race, one-religion, one-culture country with 1/100th the population and 1/50th the land mass could possibly apply here. Let alone allow the tumescent development and unprecedented survival of the world's last remaining world-dominating superpower and greatest nation the world has ever seen.

tl;dr Freedom. You literally don't even know.

>>689753042
>Because America is our country
>It's not your country
>It's our belief system
>It's our country's founding document
>It's not up for interpretation from some person in another country
>We don't care what the rest of the world thinks
>Stop being a jealous little faggot

Guns don't kill people uh uh, I kill people with guns

There are a lot of ways to kill a man with way easier and cheaper to obtain items than guns, but guns are pretty handy at defending people and they're fun to use at a gun range

I'd take everyone in my neighborhood having a gun and everyone knowing than knowing that a few of them do but the rest of us don't

Enjoy being the rape capital of the world Europe, maybe worry less about Americans and more on getting those borders in control before the U.S has to bail you out with firepower before you become West Arabia

>>689753042

It is a Manufactured obsession created by the NRA.
You know the saying "a fool is born every second" ...
Half this country has always been retarded, fuck, half this country voted for GWB twice and roughly half are supporting Trump.
They are a dwindling demographic though, we are the waiting for a lot of these old bigots in their 60s and 70s to die off.
I own a rifle and a revolver, I love shooting and hunting, but I don't think anyone should own a gun and I believe some certain guns and high capacity magazines should be restricted.
You don't hunt with an AR or AK, sure you can, but you can also hunt with a 9mm handgun, both are retarded.
Nobody uses those guns for home defense either, you will end up killing you family on the other side of the wall and possibly your neighbors.
People who think it protects them from the Government are just as retarded. Your semi-automatic rifle isn't going to protect you from tanks, drones, and a massive Army. This isn't 1861 where all anyone had was muskets and canons.

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>>689753042
You no diss my tentacle fetische

because of reasons....

chiefly is that it keeps politicians scared....

secondly, it is a great equalizer....small statured people may better effect a positive outcome against predators both 4 legged and 2 legged.

third, guns rock! shooting shit is fun!

fourth, america would never have had a revolution and escaped britain's stupid monarchy without guns...

Same reason police and soldiers have guns, but on a personal level....we aren't stupid ass socialists like the EU and Australia....

asians are just robots who can't think on an individual level...ergo, they care not for personal protection

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>>689753042
Cry harder Europoor .

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>>689758747
>It is a Manufactured obsession created by the NRA.

>>689753953
BUNCH OF REDNECKS

America was born out of fire. We fought against an oppressive regime for our "freedom". And, because of that, the 2nd amendment was written for the populace to remain armed, to fight against Tyranny from our government, if it ever game to that.

>>689758444
nice trips

the thing is you are shocked when there is a massacre at a school or smthn like that. unbelievable

and its not that i care, i actually think usa is the world cancer. 100% sure about that

>>689758833
>chiefly is that it keeps politicians scared....

It doesn't actually do this, and any idea that it does is a delusion.

Mind you, American was founded by cowards who were running away from the big mean Brits. So it's no surprise they have to compensate by holding guns in such high regard - they wanna seem tough.

>>689758747
>I own a rifle and a revolver, I love shooting and hunting, but I don't think anyone should own a gun and I believe some certain guns and high capacity magazines should be restricted.
First they came for the full-auto firearms,
And I didn’t speak out because I didn’t own a machine gun.

They they came for the inexpensive pistols,
And I didn’t speak out because I didn’t own a Saturday Night Special.

Then they came for the hobbyist Class 1 Federal Firearms Licensees,
And I didn’t speak out because I didn’t have a Class 1 FFL.

Then they came for the high capacity magazines,
And I didn’t speak out because I didn’t own any hi-cap clips.

Then they came for the “evil black rifles,”
And I didn’t speak out because I did not own an AR or an AK.

Then they came for the semi-automatic rifles and pistols,
And I didn’t speak out because all I owned were bolt actions and revolvers.

Then they came for the rest of the privately owned firearms,
But by then none of us DARED to speak out.

>>689758747
Most of the army would abandon their post anyway if it came to harming their own families and people

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Driving, alcohol, and McDonalds are all more dangerous than guns but you don't see anyone botching about banning them. Each cigarette takes 5-11 minutes off your life depending on who you talk to and most places you just have to be 18 to get them. If you want to cut down on gun violence then ban blacks and Muslims.

Not to mention how much extreme gun restrictions helped Paris..

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Pirate captain with her own crew

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Dapper as fuck

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Sleeps with protag

>>689758994
>i actually think usa is the world cancer. 100% sure about that
Like I've said earlier, not a single person in the US gives a fuck what any foreigner thinks. I'm not shocked in the slightest when there is another mass shooting because our super awesome president and the democrats in congress won't bring up mental health issues because it will hurt some feelings when they finally classify certain mental disorders as public safety hazards.

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Fights with centaurs and doesn't afraid of anything

>>689758994

are you a politician? do you speak for all of them? which ones?

ask Stalin, Mao, Hitler if they feared guns, or if they valued them...

did the jews need guns in poland in 1939?

did the armenians need guns in 1915? oh wait that never happened...

your arrogance blinds young facts

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>>689759791
guns don't shoot up schools, autistic mental patients like this faggot do

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>>689756701
everyone's got some awesome shit in their history
not everyone demands that history be commemorated by compromising health and public safety hundreds of years after the fact

>>689753042
>wtf is your amerifag obsession with guns?

It's called "being a man," something you eurotrash will never understand.

Enjoy the Muslim invasion!

>>689759931
Well yeah, pharmaceuticals ranks up there in the top 3 as far as killers go

>>689753042

Well, if you look at our history you'll see that we obtained our own freedom through use of force (a.k.a. guns), so the right to own guns is more of a preventative measure so that in case the government ever tries to get 1984 on us, we're ready to unite as citizens and buttfuck back.

It's also kind of counter-intuitive to ban guns when it's the people that are fucked up. We probably should be focusing our efforts on raising kids into good adults but instead we're just taking away the options a killer has not erasing killers.

Plus, many other things kill people. How the fuck is it that we now consider it a normal thing to drive a 2 ton metal object with the potential to explode at 30-60 mph down a road with other objects of the sort? We've destroyed our ecosystem for the sake of convenience and increase our mortality rates every day when we get on the road. People die in cars all the time but they're not illegal.

tl;dr America is all sorts of fucked up on a psychological level so we should put more effort into that rather than banning scary things.

Q: how many people need to die before there are "sensible" gun legislation enacted?

A: ALL OF THEM

Every Gun Law is an infringement!!!

>>689758994

I understand your point entirely but I think it's unfair to say that USA is the sole world cancer.

I will readily say that it's a good 30 percent of the world's cancer along with the other superpowers.

Traditionally, countries with a lot of sway are dickheads. As an American I'm sorry if my country was ever a dickhead to yours and I want you to know that on a personal level, a lot of Americans are okay people.

>>689759339
>driving
>under constant pressure and legislation to become safer
>mcdonalds
>under constant pressure and legislation to become healthier
>alcohol
>no crazy bunch of fucking alcohol lobbyists insisting alcohol is perfectly safe and resisting every push for health and safety standards

>>689760206
If the government, meaning marine corps and SEALs ever attack citizens, your AR-15s will do literally nothing.

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>>689760693
Found Obama. Hello Mr. President. Get off our /b/.

>>689760842
>meaning marine corps and SEALs ever attack citizens
So what you're saying is +/-300,000 soldiers vs. 80,000,000 gun owners?

>>689753042
>>689753042
IF you are serious about learning the facts of gun violence in america, watch this video, it explains it in a concise and accurate manner with data collected from the FBI:

https://youtu.be/8hyQDQPEsrs

the summary is basically:

blacks and hispanics are overwhelmingly the cause of gun violence stats in america

until you accept this, and deal with the society problems these minorities are facing you will continue to have violence and gun violence, regardless of what gun laws exist

>>689757816
how is it unraveling? why not tell us why youre right instead of just saying its true.

>>689758342
Truer words were never uttered

>>689760842

actually that is also a fallacious argument.

It presumes the military would turn altogether on its citizenry...See the American Civil War of 1861.

theres more guns in private hands than in military and LE combined.

It is useless to forecast either side winning or losing, if it ever comes to that we ALL are well & truly fucked.....

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>>689760098
enjoy being sold a market-defined image of manhood that exists solely for the purpose of selling you stupid shit.

I bet you love bacon and a fine scotch too, just like a real man—good on you, you free thinking individual. Crack open a cold one, take a puff on that imported cigar while feeling the reassuring weight of a gun you'll never use for its intended purpose resting on your hip; can you hear the delicious crackle of a fresh pack of bacon being cooked in the background! This is true happiness! Have some brandy! Nothing like the feel of fine leather against your skin to remind you what it feels like to be a real man! Don't forget, the smell of mahogany, haha!

America: define yourself through the shit that gets sold to you. That's when you know you're a man.

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>>689760751
Do you want to know why we have lobbyists dedicated to preserving gun rights in America?

And we already have tons of gun laws on the books to make firearms ownership safe and lawful, what people are saying is we don't need anymore since they would do nothing to stop criminals, and just make it harder for innocent law abiding people to own and carry guns for protection, which makes no sense if the intent is to stop criminals.

>>689758342
Perfect

>>689760842

I think that's what a lot of Americans thought against the much more aptly equipped British during the Revolution.

I'm not saying I'm some bad ass warrior who isn't afraid of marines (though have you seen this current generation of soldiers? pitiful), but I am saying that it's never a lost fight until you actually call it quits.

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>>689760693
Reported to I.C.E. for immediate deportation

>>689758487
>calling a whole continent the rape capital of the world.

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>>689753042
even if we banned guns.. evil people will still get a hold o them and use them.. leaving us open with nothing to shoot back with.

if you dont want a gun thats fine.. you can stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye if you ever get shot at.

libtards fervently desire to punish whites for the problems in the negroe and islamic communities...

please EU and AUS stay in your lanes...

mexico and chicago have awesome gun control systems and it avails them not......

MOLON LABE

>>689761118

I, unlike Obama, respect people the individual and am willing to apologize for my country. Nice try though.

>>689760842

I'm a government employee with government supplied weaponry.

In such a scenario, I, and others like me, would stand with the citizenry (including those Marines and SEALs you reference).

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>>689761196
seriously, educate yourself and watch this please. if you really want to cut down on gun violence in america, you need to actually attack the right problem

>>689758833
>AND LASTLY ASIANS ARE NOT HUMAN.

>>689761862
Her grip triggers me

>>689757149
Bars are gun free zones.

>>689762074
>Her grip triggers me
well, I have some bad news for you

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>>689761714
Not helping your case much, you have trouble with typing just like Obama without a teleprompter. O.o

>>689757149
it works in israel dumbass

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>>689753758
Clearly you don't own a gun go buy one and you will see.

>>689759226
oh no that slipery slope. the world is doomed if things change even slightly because then big bad changes will happen too. would rather just let 50 people die every couple of weeks. we could use the fag trimming anyway.

>>689759226

you do realize how retarded that makes you sound right?

You have to take a lesson and pass a test to be able to drive.
If you break traffic laws you can lose your license.
Some cars are not allowed on the roads because they are too dangerous; e.g. F1 racing cars, Stock cars, etc..
This is exactly what I mean by the NRA manufacturing hysteria.
There needs to be regulations and rules.
By having a waiting period, doing a background check, not letting people with a history of violence or on a terrorist watch list is just common sense.

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>>689753042
>why arent they banned already?

Why hasn't ever-so-enlightened France banned them?

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>>689758342
>find it fascinating when countries who lack the social, political, racial and religious diversity of the US attempt to apply their homogeneous outlook to American life, as though the solution that works for their one-race, one-religion, one-culture country with 1/100th the population and 1/50th the land mass could possibly apply here. Let alone allow the tumescent development and unprecedented survival of the world's last remaining world-dominating superpower and greatest nation the world has ever seen.
>tl;dr Freedom. You literally don't even know.

copied and saved
your words shall live on, anon

>>689762319
This right here is the difference between a privilege (read: driving) and a right (read: gun ownership).

Britfag here
Plenty of us here are gun enthusiasts

leave my guns alone faggots. guns are never at fault. Its just like saying forks make people fat.

>>689753042
Dont worry about fag. If your not an american, you have no fight in this. Go back to being the pussy that you are and sip your earl grey tea. Faggot

yessss, bring on the NRA hysteria....the propaganda they provide is delicious.....

Liberal Secular Humanist tears are almost as delicious ...

let the butt hurt flow, you pacifist America haters....

the end of America will herald the end of us all....

>>689759250

Well, then that would be the Army doing it.
It wouldn't need John Bob and his merry band of rednecks.
Personally I disagree with your statement though. If you ever served in the military then you know even if you disagree with orders you follow them, it is simple conditioning. Not to mention the civil war kind of refutes your argument.

>>689758747
I keep my AR-15 for when aliens come and they aren't friendly

>>689762319
>There needs to be regulations and rules.
There already are regulations and rules you fucking idiot. This is why no one takes arguments like yours seriously. Just because you don't like something, doesn't make your argument correct.

It's 2016 dumb niggers.

I could be stabbed with a knife or beaten to death with a hammer. Maybe someone just hits me to death with their hands. So many things to hurt/kill a person with. They all suck.

Just shoot me for god's sake. Can you fags get with the times and technology already.

It's the free world. I have a hard time understanding why someone doesn't have a gun when they can...

Oh yea I guess holding a gun makes you feel bad about your small cock

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>>689762299
hey faggot this doesnt happen every 2 weeks, the last attack of this magnitude happend 15 years ago, and was committed by the same muslim faggot religion

we should ban retards like you from having internet, because when the first amendment was drafted, the founding fathers had quill and parchment in mind, and could never foresee the future of assault-style shitposting faggotry by liberal cucks on /b/

>>689753042
this is why you faggit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nFTaR9YsU

>>689753042
>>689753042

DO YOU ENGLISH?

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>>689753042

>imagine if someone shot the Orlando terrorist

>>689762787
Kek. You made my day

>>689753042
Implying half of us couldn't shove a real one up our asses. Fucking faggot, try harder.

>>689762572

well if you want to go that rout then read the actual amendment, it says "a well regulated militia"... in that case no non state militia member has the right to own any kind of gun.

>>689762299
>we could use the fag trimming anyway.
I'm failing to see what's wrong with this?

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>>689762319
we already have laws, the FBI fucked up after investigating this guy for 2 years for terrorism. then allowed him to keep working at a govt security contractor guarding federal buildings with 2 separate gun carrying permits. then they failed to add the fact the guy was on a terrorsit watchlist, to the criminal database that the gun stores check for the background check. all the laws in the world wont fix that level of incompetence.

watch this please and educate yourself
https://youtu.be/8hyQDQPEsrs

OP IS A JEW

>>689761370
that all sounds extremely nice

you have the causation flipped around
men like that stuff, so it is marketed to men
not the other way around fucktard

>>689758747

>you will end up killing your family on the other side of the wall and possibly your neighbors
Actually, .223 penetration was studied by the FBI, and it was shown to penetrate walls less than even 9mm, mostly because of how it fragments. This is why it's such a useful defense cartridge.

>b-b-b-but, muh dwones!
Drones can't occupy cities, fagboy. The more you use muh tanks and muh dwones on you own country, the worse off you make the situation for yourself. It's like burning your own crops.

I don't get why you think you know so much about ARs if you don't even fucking own one, ya chucklefuck.

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Truth is almost everyone loves guns. 99.9% of guns are not used for evil at all. But it has become a political toy the gives politicians something to flap their lips about.

ITT:

People in countries that don't allow guns get mad at countries that do allow them.

Don't hate just because your government has the power to keep you from using or possessing certain technology. Humans will kill humans until the end of all intelligent life. Instead of whining about how unsafe it is for someone else to own guns, I choose instead to lawfully obtain the same weapon to defend myself.

Only reason nobody in that club in Florida fought back is because gays are pussies, and because how can you pack heat wearing skin tight leather pants?

>>689760842
soldiers aren't robots yet
they don't always follow orders
and 99.99% would never turn on the majority of the population of their own country

I hate to tell you guys but the FBI did what it was told. Wasn't their fault. They can only enforce laws. Not carry out vigilante justice. Also, ICE was directed to modify watch list because it "discriminated" against muslims......

Really, its the POTUS and Congress fault...they suck so bad

>>689762758

no dumbass, each state has different regulations.
The reason Chicago is flooded with illegal gun when they are prohibited in Illinois state is because criminals drive a couple hours to Indiana and fill their trunk with guns, drive back over the border and shoot shit up.
Your arguments are becoming childish and pathetic now kid.
Perhaps I should spell it out for you,
NEW REGULATIONS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL APPLIED TO EVERY STATE.

>>689753042
Why the fuck do you care. You wanna come over here and take our country don't you! Well fuck yoooou Mister Suckasak! "It would be foolish to invade America, there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

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>>689763459
ANGRY MUCH? HAHAHAHA

you made no relevant argument, you just showed you are not mature enough to even own a cap gun

>>689763683
this. if you want to blame someone for the terrorist attack, blame obama and his liberal administration

>>689753042
>wtf is your amerifag obsession with guns? if u like them so much, just shove a toy ar15 in your ass.
>why arent they banned already?
>your amerifag fetiche with guns is like japanese's with tentacles
>fucking stupid
OP, this is your daily reminder that Murrica has fewer mass shootings per capita than most Euro countries.
...and FAR fewer mass shootings per gun-owner than almost anywhere on the planet.

>>689763699
hey now, you cussing and getting mad isn't very convincing....the reason chicago is flooded with guns is because the negroe has notoriously poor impulse and anger control issues.....why blame the poor people of Indiana? typical libtard logic

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>>689753042
>why arent they banned already?
Because ownership is protected by the second amendment

>fetiche

>>689759226
>Then they came for the high capacity magazines,
>And I didn’t speak out because I didn’t own any hi-cap clips.

A MAGAZINE IS NOT A "CLIP"

https://youtu.be/ZT4pGp1mQqE

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>>689753042
2nd amendment rights
>'Merica

>>689764092

Yay! Today is opposite day!

>>689763399
no anon, you think that's how it works because that is how good marketing works.

"This is definitely my default stance and it's just that these groups are catering to me!"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-06/bacon-why-americas-favorite-food-mania-happened

idiots are sold their opinions and then once it's spread far enough it's just assumed that's what the people want and it becomes a part of the accepted canon of whatever demographic.

You could start a campaign to turn baking into the epitome of manliness on the same grounds if you had a good team, it wouldn't even be that hard: the concept is ironic which makes it easier for it to gain traction, and a huge percentage of the top french pastry chefs are men.


but by all means keep defining yourself through brands and purchases instead of what you actually do and who you are.

>>689763699
>is because criminals drive a couple hours to Indiana and fill their trunk with guns, drive back over the border and shoot shit up
But that's already illegal newfriend. But let's see your point anyway:
>Guns illegal in Chicago
>Guns legal in Indiana
>It's illegal to transport guns to a municipality where said guns are illegal.
Howe exactly is this the guns fault?

>>689763459

dumbass, AR comes in several calibers.

6.8 , 6.5 , 5.56 , 26.8

your troll is weak

>>689763153
Ok so lets think....contitution.org has a poster who says, "In 21st century plain speaking, the 'well-regulated' term circa 1787 when the Constitution was drafted meant, as the case may be, that which is 'adequate,' 'sufficient.' or 'in the proper form' for its intended purpose. Intended purpose was the defense of individuals first, their homes and property second, and then their neighbors and neighborhoods working toward common purpose. From there, the scale may grow but the principle remains the same; a home guard for threats that are near and citizen soldiers to deal with external threats. Also misinterpreted by the foes of the second amendment is a term that hasn't changed: '... shall not be infringed.'"

>>689763699
>The reason Chicago is flooded with illegal gun when they are prohibited in Illinois state is because

Negroes.

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>>689759339
>driving, alcohol and McDonalds, all of which are dangerous but not inherently designed to kill, are more dangerous than a literal weapon

Ok m8

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>>689763459
>Actually, .223 penetration was studied by the FBI, and it was shown to penetrate walls less than even 9mm, mostly because of how it fragments. This is why it's such a useful defense cartridge.

I have used a lot of guns and a .223 will go right through a house.

12ga shotguns have less penetration but they have 2.5X the power so they blast through anyway.

If you need to shoot things inside your bedroom get a 20ga shotgun with light bird shot in it. That will still blow a person to shreds with minimal chance of injuring someone on the on the side of the cheap drywall.

>>689758342
gun on far left?

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I think it is especially funny when people want to ban guns because they are "scary and big" looking and they don't even have the first idea of how they operate.

>>689764531

it is about availability potato, not fault.

ok, now you are just trolling so I'm done with you.

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>>689753042
It's not the guns. The people are retarded.

>>689763814

/thread

>>689764274
Here we go again with the old "clip no am mag ur argument is invalid," I mean Jesus do you not realize how fucking autistic you sound? If everyone knows what it means what the fuck does it matter aside from impressing your fellow firearm autists?

EVERY GUN LAW IS AN INFRINGEMENT !!

Please, if you fear law abiding citizenry with weapons move to the many, many countries with great climates that strongly keep guns under the strict purveyance of the military and police.....

>>689764853

Learn the basic language. A clip is NOT A MAGAZINE.

What more stupid is you. America isn't the only country to produce weapons. Maybe you should protest the manufacturers in your own country ya Fucking idiot.

>>689753042
I'll happy turn over my firearms the second we have to stop signing up for the selective services and the government adequately starts funding mental health, education and law enforcement.

>>689753042
The ar 15 is the ultimate home protection device, suck my ass eurofags

>>689760693
Fuck off we aren't sorry

>>689753042
You don't have them so your just jealous. Why don't you brits get your teeth fixed and add go hug some more refugees.

>>689764866
/thread

>>689763814
Underrated post

>>689763814
Good read

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>>689758342
AR lower receiver w/ a fucking .22 mag in the well
fucking keked

>>689762299
More people are born every hour than are lost in mass shootings.

Even then, too many people. You are actually insignificant . Think about it;

7,000,000,000+ people on Earth and you are one of those people. That is 1/7,000,000,000=1.4285x10^10. Any statistic you could be a part of, short of having tons of money, you would have no net affect on the rest of the world.

I don't understand why people in general have such this obsession with life. Is it to make themselves feel better?

Not trying to be edgy but take a step back and look at the big picture. Does it really matter that people die? The planet existed fine for >3 billion years. Do you think it cares? No. So leave people alone and let them have and do as long as that thing does not hurt people on its own.

>>689765312
You got more immigrants and none whites than europe does. Also half the jews live in murica.

>>689763699
>NEW REGULATIONS ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL APPLIED TO EVERY STATE.
On top of the hundreds that are already on the books.
>But, you're right, another new law will do the trick against those who aim to break them.

>>689753042
>be you
>bitch about the problems of others
>without really understanding the root of the problem
>or even 10% of what the debate is really about

The debate over gun rights is about our constitutional rights. And the US people do not want to lose those rights. The majority of Americans do not own guns, and do not want to own guns. But we want the right, because it is a constitutional guarantee. Once that's removed, the rest of our rights will follow.

I don't expect you to follow this... you're likely a Europoor. You gave up your rights a long time ago when your country sold its sovereignty to the EU, which bows to progressive ideology. You can't even speak your mind if it's offensive without going to jail-- -why would I take any advice concerning rights from you? Not to mention all the "refugees" you welcome into your borders, who somehow get ahold of guns in your supposedly gun-free countries and murder people at basically the same rate as in the US. While also making your rape statistics skyrocket.

The progressives in the US want to disarm US citizens so there is no room for revolution when they begin to erode the rest of the constitutional rights. The easiest way to do that is to make them feel unsafe, even though gun violence is almost unheard of in the majority of the US. Gun violence is generally contained to minority groups, suicide, and an occasional mass shooting that accounts for a negligible amount of overall gun violence. There simply isn't a real issue here: if people want to shoot themselves, then should go for it, and if minorities want to kill each other, that's fine with me. Mass shootings death rates, per capita, are around 1 per 100,000. A complete non-issue.

TL;DR: Fuck you, Europoor. You don't understand US politics, you have no argument, and the EU is by far worse off than the US.

>>689765061
I'm well aware of the language, but when you're blowing up on a guy who happens to be ON YOUR SIDE, you've got an issue with letting trivial things go

>>689764700
All the way through a glass house

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>>689764700
fuckign kekked at .223 going through house when it barely can go thru bone
fucking get hydro rounds moron, they impact on drywall and splinter
fucking newfag to guns, go learn on /k/

>>689753042

the sell of weapons is OK
WHO THE FUCK YOU SELL THE GUNS TO, IS THE REAL PROBLEM

>>689764550

Turning the subject a bit off topic because at the end of the day this conversation isn't going anywhere. Most people have their minds made up and are only looking to reinforce of their beliefs and ideology and wont consider any other side.
So with that said, I love the constitution and early American History, you should actually read more into it instead of checking out some website, study it and read various interpretations by Constitutional Professors, writers, etc. and make up your own mind..
If you start reading into it, it is amazingly fascinating to find out what the authors ideals were while constructing the constitution.
You will also find out the idea of the militias and right to bear arms was negotiated on for the simple fact of protecting slavers rights and preventing a potential uprising by slaves.
Anyways, seriously study the constitution and it's history, it is fascinating.

>>689764700

>arguing against the FBI without providing evidence
>"a scattergat's all ya need, none dem scary black rifles!"

t. fudd :^)

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>>689764700
.223 going through a house? it barely can make it through bone.
fucking retard there with ballistic statistics spewing from his cockholster

>>689764274
>A MAGAZINE IS NOT A "CLIP"
>>>/k/

>>689764708
Looks like just a short barrel 9mm AR variant

>>689765714

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qgQoej5zE

>>689762748
Wtf unit were you in, Rambo? Im a rebel first, nationalist second. Rep yo state.

>>689764528
So does this fantastic wizardry of marketing not also apply to you?

What cucked version of ads are you seeing that made you into knob gobbling cum huffer?

oh Lord! people got to shoot uppity slaves??!!! dang that must have sucked, like shooting your cow or horse, I'd wager....those things cost too much to be blasting all the time

>>689766143

In case you have never fired a gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qgQoej5zE

The great USA was founded on a war. At the time they need guns to say fuck you to the brits.

By then america learn to say fuck you to everything else.

It's practically impossible to impose a gun law now, given the amount of guns circulating in the US.

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>>689766347
holy fuck, you posted a video of a controlled enviroment
try doing except point the slim end towards you

>>689753042
That was me when I was 10 buying my first .22. Fuck you and your bait nigger.

>>689764747
>it is about availability
I didn't realize that guns can move from place to place by themselves. You gun grabbing faggots need to get over your fear of offending people and come to terms that it's a fucking PERSON that commits all of these crimes and THEY ALONE should be held accountable.

>>689766601
>gun law
You mean creating a new amendment that takes away our right.
Never going to happen

do any of y'all fags know how many guns a person should own?

there is a formula: N + 1

where N= the number of guns you currently have....

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>>689766711

Of course always judge for yourself what type of gun and ammunition you need in your particular case.

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Things we should ban because they kill people;

1)guns
2)cars
3)trains
4)water
5)air
6)knives
7)electricty
8)abortion
9 ) cigarettes
10) disease
11) food
12) planes
13) jihadists
14) hammers (&tools)
15) bows and arrows
16) rope
17) depression
18) drugs

>>689766932
either way, does it do shit though?
I'd doubt any of you gun-fags will give up your stuff just like that. in fact, I'd doubt that it makes a difference if you give away your guns, you'd find another means.

>>689766547

Does your home have 5 walls right up against each other, you fucking idiot? Of course if you put your targets 3 inches apart the projectile will go through more. Not only that, but what kind of "walls" are just two pieces of gypsum with no fucking wood siding, insulation, bars, or anything of that likeness? Do you live in Compton, or are you just going hard at the damage control today?

Here's a good way to prove it for me, go buy an AR, and have your friend shoot at you through the wall. It's a win-win situation, fuckboii.

>>689766601
>It's practically impossible to impose a gun law now, given the amount of guns circulating in the US.
I can almost hear you sobbing through my hearing protection.

An armed society is a polite society.....

Gun free zones are a romantic cluster fuck......

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>>689767257

>>689764732
Even one of those morons could tell you that one clearly operates on electricity.

>>689766428
Well then, you are an a traitor to this country and the Union; I call that Treason.

Ok in an average shithouse a average full length barrel 223 is not the weapo. Yiu want to be fighting room to room with. But its mostdef the weapon you want to repel an angry crowd of say... looters? From your front yard. And yeah itll go thru walls its a fucking high power no matter how small the actual business end of a 223 is

>>689767550
Hahaha well put my friend

>>689767553
Gun free zones are like smoke free zones. Nobody will know if you're carrying a pack.

>>689767704
K

>>689767644
We need to ban unintentional falls

>>689766775
Wow, you make sense. This is exactly why I think we should give tanks and nukes to everyone who wants one. If they are available and used wrongly then we just punish the user, regulation is wrong.

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Put on some earpro boys, sounds like the civies are fucking at it again

>>689753191

Japan's history is written in blood. Americas is written in gun powder.

>>689753042

We aren't as obsessed with guns as the media makes us out to be. Most people don't give them a second thought. We are allowed to have them by law, but that doesn't make us obsessed with them. We don't decide if we're allowed to have them or not.

There is just a very vocal minority that makes all look like retards that genuinely want a pistol with a fleshlight attachment. Most owners are hunters, and the rest are simple homeowners that keep a handgun in their nightstand just in case. Very, very rarely you'll find some retard with 100 guns that won't shut up about the second amendment.

223 is not very good on wood and sheet rock....but apparently it works great on people.....

fun fact: the 5.56 round was implemented because they thought that it would cause wounds not death as much...in war it takes more troops to care for other wounded troops than if you just killed them

>>689768200
except its a fucking bone chaser

>>689768195
speak for yourself....guns rock!

>>689755784

mines in my bedside table. .38special and a full tang gladius behind my headboard.

try to rob me, i dare you.

Keeping america peaceful is about making home invasion so harmful to your health that no one will try it.

>>689758342
most places in the US are fairly homogenous, the only areas that are really cosmopolitan are ceratin neighborhoods of large cities

>>689768286
true, i had forgotten about that....ouch!!!

>>689768065
>>689768065
>This is exactly why I think we should give tanks and nukes to everyone who wants one. If they are available and used wrongly then we just punish the user, regulation is wrong.
slippery slope

>>689753191
You clearly haven't looked at the statistics for tentacle rape in Tokyo, if you take into account that the the tentacle monster must off 1-2 guys to get to the girl in 1 out of 4 cases you're looking at a higher mortality rate than for Godzila atacks

>>689762787
Doesn't happen with 50 people every few weeks but there's definitely a spree every few weeks. It's getting really annoying hearing about spree shooters when it happens so often. Just adopt the same gun laws as Canada. They work perfectly. They're stricter yet don't restrict the guns you can get, you just need to be cleared trained and tested first.

>>689768435
and most of the people who want guns live in the most homogenous areas, ie people who live in suburban and rural areas want guns the most

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>>689753042
Today OP was a faggot.

>>689768200
Yeah im not going to try and manever in my mown bedroom with one and im really not gonna fire one at drywall in my own home with the nursery on the other side of the wall. Thats a long ass cartritge, read all the charts you want its to me not an indoor home defence weapon. Ive seen with my own eyes 9mil bounce off plywood and still would be wary to shoot that shit with my kid in the house.

>>689760043

guns are a form of power. Power to the people means guns to the people.

the second the average working man can't have a rifle hanging above his fire place, is the second this is no longer a free country.

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>>689767019
>do any of y'all fags know how many guns a person should own?

The last time I was over at the gun shop I looked around and then I realized.

If I have enough money, I would by every fucking gun the store had!!

>>689759064
now if only the rest f the world would get its shit together, and stop begging us to come fix it for them.

>>689758342
>Money shot statement

Nice work anon

>>689755702
Nope, it has to do with this guy called Freud and the fact someone with as large a collection as you have pictured is clearly spending a lot of his leisure time in something that's not getting laid or even conducive to it...

>>689768709
>ie people who live in suburban and rural areas want guns the most
Exactly, so when the scumbags from the democratically run urban utopias bring their special flavor of fun to the quiet, peaceful suburbs, we're ready for them.

>>689763399
>>689761370

you two are literally in a chicken or the egg argument.

please both of you an hero.

>>689768710
>Today

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>>689753042
We have a savage, blood thirsty negro population so it's just common sense to be armed, but why are you so mad?

>>689768910
LOL me too!

>>689768588
Both sides abuse the slippery slope argument.
>why not give everyone nukes
>if they take our MGs and ARs they'll take all our guns too

How about you guys just make it harder for nutcases to get guns? How about you stop selling semi autos at Walmart?

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>>689768910
>I would by every fucking gun the store had!!
Bullshit! No one wants a High Point on purpose.

>>689753042

Because not everybody wants to be a slave to its country.

The only reason why countries prohibit guns is because governments want ultimate power over its citizens.

>>689768709

that's because in a city you can call 9-11 and expect them in 10 minuets.

out in the country you're on your own. no gun, your family will be raped and murdered in front you of. It happens.