ITT: we defend our second amendment rights
>to bear arms
>literal bear arms are also OK
>>689752975
Rawr :3
>>689752975
What about Europe then? Japan? South Korea? Native American's were almost wiped not because of gun control, but because colonists wanted their land.
Out of all the pseudo-arguments you could have brought up you chose the most retarded one, congratz OP, you are a tier 1 faggot, also check em
check what?
>>689752975
>>689752975
Over 90% of the native population of the Americas were killed by disease, not war. When you only have 10% of your people left it's hard to defend against anything, guns or not.
>>689754109
being
>>689754339
this dense
bump for interest
>tits just cause
>>689754339
You can't prove that, so nope
>>689754678
Well considering that I got better education attending my 9 year compulsory elem. school than most American's get when graduating from "High School" I am pretty confident in saying that my opinion is atleast based on factual knowledge of history and socio-economics
>>689754678
>>689754678
I'm sure you get off on learning your history from movies and TV, but reality is something different. Try getting out in it some time.
>>689755194
>>689755194
Can't prove it?? It's historical fact. It's called The Great Dying. You're just ignorant.
>>689755263
>Try getting out in it some time.
I had nearly forgotten how many underage fags frequent this place in the summer ...
Go back to school, kids.
>>689755562
lurk more faggot
>>689755724
What's your point, summerfag?
>>689755382
You are so full of shit, check your facts faggot
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/04/the-great-dying-was-earths-colossal-extinction-event-caused-by-microbes.html
>>689756008
They appropriated that phrase from the Native American history. "The Great Dying" refers to the genocide of the Native Americans by the whites.
>>689752975
Oh fuck off, if native americans had guns every whites around them would call it an insurrection.
>>689755724
>>689755724
>post from 4 years ago
Man, I sure hope Obama wins the next election. Romney is a douche.
>>689756008
>>689756008
Two events can have the same name, especially when they're EONS apart. Fucking moron ... try using more than Google to do your research, fucking child.
Okay lets face the problem logicaly
> very high rate of violence and homicides in the USA
what to do?
Liberals:
> make guns illegal
Doesnt work that simply and many examples showed that it doesnt do shit
> violence still there
Conservative:
> keep guns, dont do anything
> violence still there
Now I ask you: What to do instead of just complaining?
>>689757484
So, Guns aren't the problem.
Let's send the niggers back to Africa.
I like where you're going with this, anon.
>>689757875
>>689758786
The first amendment doesn't apply to hateful speech.
>>689760126
Good graphic.
>>689760126
>People who think you should be able to own guns
all straight white males
>people who think you shouldn't
much more diverse.
I know whose opinion is correct.
>>689759879
Because cars serve a purpose OTHER than to cause harm. Weapons are these PRIMARILY to harm.
>>689760600
>all straight white males
Ghandi and King
>white
>>689760650
also, your mom wants to know, when /are/ you moving out of the basement?
>>689761516
You are a poo poo head
>>689758786
That's stupid. You're stupid.
>>689763923
>>689752975
>>689752975
ITT: everyone, including 2nd amendment defenders like myself, should watch this video if you arent already aware of these stats/facts from the FBI, etc
https://youtu.be/8hyQDQPEsrs
If people are genuine about their desire to lower 'gun crime' in the US (which we all would like) people need to direct their attention to the real issues at hand. It is not guns, or the types of guns, which are legally owned and bought by the majority of Americans
Everyone wants to protect the 2nd ammendment; but resticting lunatics, unstable people, suspected terrorists and felons from easily getting these weapons online or through unchecked means benefits nobody.
Making it harder for the jackasses ruining shit for everyone to get guns should be common sense... if you're in that category of hateful, ignorant or mentally challenged people who think every citizen should have military grade weapons.
Get real! Comparing weapons of death to a mode of transportation. And guess what, we regulate cars too. Sure most people can get a license but we dont let epileptics drive cars... because they might hurt people. Just like crazies and guns, its a no brainer here..
Ill reiterate, and dont give me that slippery slope bullshit. Both sides want guns for 2nd ammendmant rights, but not for terrorism. That piece of shit in orlanda would have been stopped if he didnt have 50 round mags and an assault rifle.. goodluck shooting 100 people before getting put down if he only had a hunting rifle, or shotgun/handgun. Cops woulda raped that fool, but "noooo we need to obliterate these deer and get ready for the grassroots uprising" souths comin back yall lol
>>689764364
>>689757718
>>689757718
THATS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>BRING IN THOSE REFUGEES FROM SYRIA, 100+ A DAY, EVEN THOUGH THE FBI CANT EVEN STOP TERRORISTS LIKE THE BOSTON BOMBERS OR THE ORLANDO SHOOTER AFTER YEARS OF "background checks"
>>689760855
ban smartphones, now your onto something
>>689764364
>just like the piece of shit gang members in california's compton or richmond, who shoot each other with their legally bought full auto ak47s and mac10s, amirite??
>>689760600
kys, you racist daughter raping retard.
>all straight white males
Ghandi and King
yea, kys. and your pregnant daughter.
>>689764364
>>689764364
please watch this sir, it's not a shill to change your mind, just at least take the facts from the FBI this guy compiled and make your own judgement
https://youtu.be/8hyQDQPEsrs
>>689764325
>>689760650
The purpose of the tool is irrelevant. Should we punish the farmer who is protecting his livestock from wild hogs because a mentally ill democrat shot up a movie theater?
>>689766151
The farmer isn't being punished by changing the law so that people on FBI watch lists for terrorist sympathising can't buy guns.
>>689764685
Of course crazies will be crazy but just because they can kill some other way doesnt mean we cant limit the amount of damage they can do. Its like saying since guns are leagal why should tanks/rockets be illegal to own?? Whos to say you wont need them for when "yer guvernment tries to take yer freedums"
When in reality mostly ignorant, hateful people, who are being armed with weapons and extremely undereducated will most likely just go on rampage sprees instead.
Besides im sure they implemented safeguards to detect mongoloids buying fertilizer in bomb quantities since that disaster... but probly not since most republicans think it would be a waste of tax dollars when we could be building a wall
>>689766783
The Orlando shooter was on FBI terrorist watch lists. He was still able to buy a gun.
More gun control could have stopped this.
>>689759170
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>689766572
so why are you pro-syrian refugee settlement in the USA? if you dont trust the FBI to keep track of a terrorist after multiple tips and 2 years of investigations, what makes you think they can validly check the backgrounds of 100s of random people from a war region per day?
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/06/11/obama-administration-surge-agenda-threatening-u-s-100-syrian-refugees-per-day/
>>689767569
> so why are you pro-syrian refugee settlement in the USA?
When did I say I was?
> if you dont trust the FBI to keep track of a terrorist after multiple tips and 2 years of investigations...
I do and in this case the FBI were right on the money. It was the legislators that failed, they are the ones who allowed a known potential terrorist to buy a gun.
>>689765614
Those are awesome statistics! Goes to show that its not the guns but society. But there is still no harm in limiting the amount of damage any one lunatic can do to our population.
That video seems to be targetting blacks in general though i have to say. The information seems a bit bias and a bit racist.
I would love to see some correlations of education completion and funding of public systems. And also sin tax rates for states in comparison to gun deaths. Not just rich, poor, white or black.
>>689767451
gun control =/= crime control
>as much as it would fit your libtard agenda
>>689768083
>>689768083
>right on the money
so, when the FBI gets a hit on their database by a gunstore running a background check for a gun buyer, and the name is for a man who cant even fly on a plane because he has been designated a high risk, possible terrorist...they were right on the money to do nothing? not even pay the guy a visit, just after he bought some guns? tap his phones? evidence is coming out now that his wife knew of the plan beforehand, and even drove him to the gunstore to buy the guns
I dont get why republicants want maniacs with military grade assault rifles.
Literally no one wants to take farmer johns sidearm, hunting rifle or shotgun.
Its like saying silencers are so you dont disturb your neighbors... when you shoot them.
>>689768495
>targeting blacks
and this is why no progress is ever made. white people especially, get uncomfortable with the truths presented. i assure you, there are many leaders in the black community, who already are outspoken about this problem. it is a cultural problem among young black males, that no amount of gun banning will fix
>information seemes a bit bias and racist
it is criminal statistics collected by and reported by the FBI
the poverty graphs were the ones that actually shocked me the most. i always assumed poverty and gun crime were hand in hand. but that is not the case.
you can see there are many vocal advocates in the black community who are aware of this issue now, but for some reason the media gives it no attention
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/black_community_is_concerned_with_black_on_black_crime_suggesting_otherwise.html