>>689701537
Hurry durrr muh guns

>>689701537
I'm all for the right to bear arms. But no average joe needs a gun that can shoot 100 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger. People that do want to own those weapons should be put through rigorous background checks and subject to strict storage laws.

>>689701944
The guns are there to stop the government from infringing on the rights if the people. If all the people have are pea shooters and the governent has fucking drones, how will that work out for the people?

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You know if Americans didn't have such easy access to guns then shit like this wouldn't happen (recent shootings)

I mean christ how many mass shootings does like, Canada have again?

You wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself if no one else has guns to threaten you with lmao

BUT, America already has so many guns that it's too late, so yes, they should be allowed to get guns as easily as they do

The whole argument is like you're already neck-deep in slowly rising dog shit so you should be able to get a snorkel, but you wouldn't NEED the snorkel if you didn't jump in the shit in the first place, dumbass

>>689702401
Oh I get it now bro. Thanks! I'm going to throw out my guns and buy a metaphorical snorkel

>>689702331
You stupid cunt, you wouldn't stand a chance against a drone, or several drones. Dumb argument. Dumb person.

>>689702331
>Implying an ar-15 will defend you against the 8000 tanks and 2000 jet fighter aircraft.
>Implying that your government is your sole enemy

>>689702749
Jeez bro scary. What else do you know about me?

>>689702814
>implying that our government would follow orders to destroy the land they swear an oath to protect.

>>689702814
>implying that I would act alone.

>>689702814
Yeah because Americans could in no way resist their government with all its superior weapons. Have you had your head under a rock for the last 15 years? One sand nigger with an Enfield rifle kept a whole company of better equipped soldiers tied down.

>>689701537
self government is the only government
self as god the only truth

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They need more freedom

>>689703193
You salty bro?

Accept Allah as the one true god and the Prophet Muhammad as his final messenger. Implement shariah law, we will take care of the fags and feminazis and cucks as well as nigger scum. Plus there will be no more terror attacks. Make America great again - Vote for Islam!

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>>689702331
At this point it's not to fight off the government, it's to defend yourself from robbers, domestic terroristsand religious fanatics. Not to mention the criminal organizations and street gangs that buy them from overseas and sell them in their suburban homes and city apartments. Maybe a invading country or extradimentional army but unlikely

>>689703773
That all sounds pretty good

make any and all forms of organized religion illegal. don't just tax them, put all religious fuckers in prison.

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>>689701944
The fuck do you know about my needs?

First its 100 rounds mags, then its 30, then I cant even have more than 10 rounds in a firearm that has a detachable magazine.

Looking at you California you massive piece of shit.

Remind me again who has the strictest gun laws in the US? OH THATS RIGHT, its California. Remind me again who is home to 3 of the 10 cities in the US with the highest rate of firearm related homicide? OH THATS RIGHT, its California.

No rational individual is going to say no to logical gun control, but in over the last 30 years firearm related legislation has been more prohibition than regulation. No one wants prohibition, it doesnt fucking work.

No one is opposed to an instant background check to ensure they dont have violent criminal histories or documented cases of mental illness, however no one wants those checkts to take days or be subjective to the local pd.

No one is opposed to restriciting access to assault style rifles in urban environments, but the people want proper channels to aquire those firearms not simple blanket bans.

Get logical gun regulation proposed and America will be on board, until then Id rather be thought of as some retard NRA supporter than condone the prohibition of firearms.

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>>689704101
You never know when gays will come to your house and try to put dicks in your pooper

>>689702913
>Implying they wouldn't

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They need more burger

>>689702401
Yeah but why would yeah keep shoveling more dog shit on the pile. Fuck Americans are retarded

>>689704616
you*
fuck me

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>>689704101
i've never held a real gun.

i've never needed to, because i'm comfortable with the size of my penis.

>>689701537
Sorry OP your gayness is showing. We are responsible with our weapons they are not toys. That man needed a deeper background check...

>>689701537
European checking in. I'm all for the 2nd amendment: The more guns you retarded inbred rednecks have the more of each other you will kill. Everyone (in the USA) should get a full auto assault rifle on their 18th birthday. Hopefully you will wipe yourself off the face of the earth soon.

>>689704752
okay dat feet!

>>689701537
Ok I'll have a go. You'd be better of with free education.

I don't give a shit about your gun laws. Owning a gun won't stop someone from killing you with a gun. Banning guns won't do shit since there's already more guns than ppl in the USA. It's a moot point.

>>689701944
Yep, gun owner and I totally believe this.

>>689705033
>free education

there already is up until uni level and people who can't afford it get grants. Adding another tax would fix nothing

>>689704101
but the nra is against all of those things and lobbies against regulation in any way, shape or form.

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>>689701537
fuck ya

>>689701944
For the most part, assault rifles aren't the problem. They get the most publicity, but the real issue is thugs and handguns. That's where most of our gun crime comes from. You won't stop mass killings until this country gets serious about mental health. Ban guns and a person could go to the local Home Depot and get just about everything they need to make an IED capable of inflicting just as much or more harm.

>>689705251
So what's the thing in all movies and tv-series when they go; "Trying to afford to send my kids to college"?

>>689701944
Where do I buy a gun legally in the us that fires that fast?

>>689702749
thanks Mr. Knowitall.

>>689702331
You wouldn't stop the us government even if you had a fucking machine gun you dumb cunt.

>>689704288
you're the dumb one. you seemed to be stupid so I just pointed that out. no need to thank me.

>>689705033
free means someone else pays.

>>689705358
sure kid. watch out they are hiding under your bed.

>>689701537
Honestly machine guns won't even cut it now, I feel like buying a fucking tank just to go to walmart lol, fuckers building chem bombs & homemade explosives, you try stopping that shit with a gun.

>>689702913
and the dumbest mother fucker in this thread just needed to talk. Almost surely a service member who still thinks he's doing "good"

>>689702975
i hear you, and i got your back bro

>>689704949
To bad you can get guns in Europe huh?

>>689701537
>people not from north korea are wrong. Kim really is God
You can't see the Forrest through the trees.

>>689702331
And how's that working out for you? You've lost rights everyday and now the rich rule you peasants.

>>689701537
Americans need a proper health insurance. I have an American pal who just told me he suddenly lost hearing in his ear. When I told him that it's probably earwax and that he should go to the doctor to suck it out, he just said it's too expensive.
Healthcare should be a given, health services should be subsidized.

>>689701537
Is it time to show Europe the rape statistics since 2015?
>youre more likely to get raped in several parts of Western Europe than New Delhi.

>>689702913
Jet fuel can't melt national parks.

>>689701537
Hopefully when Trump becomes president he will make it mandatory for every man, woman and child to bear arms at all times, even when taking a shit. Then he can put his wall up to stop Mexican terrorists. Then he can ban all Mudslims from being evil. Gays are now killing themselves so that's another problem solved, just like the nig nogs. Soon it will be a Christian Country full of White Christians. And guns, lots of Christian guns.

>>689706755
sure kid

>>689703941
So what you're saying is your country is so fucked, you need guns to survive in it.

>>689707532
we have obamacare. the best in the world.

>>689707949
that would be you take on it.

I say give them more guns.
More guns = less Americans.

Pretty ironic how the 99% are happy to throw money at the 1%, as long as it's for high-powered weaponry.

>>689708063
Nah, that's what you said. You need guns to protect yourselves from all the horrible shit that happens in your lipsticked pig of a country.

>>689701944
Are you so retarded that you actually believe if the people stood up against the government/army you would stand a chance high powered assault rifles or not? Fucking typical American imbecile.

>>689707715
Because Europe has different definition of rape and actually report rape unlike India...

Itt: Americans that don't realise they're already being completely controlled by their government.

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ITT: idiots who think guns are the problem.
A person could go steal a big rig and mow over a parade or marathon event and probably kill just as many, if not more, people than someone with an "assault rifle" and 100 rounds of ammo.

>>689701537
Nuke yourself
Best for you
Best for us

>>689708878
So why haven't they?

>>689701537
When they wrote the 6th amenaties they were talking about owning a blunderbuss that shoots wads of tree sap at 3fps and took 10 minutes to load. Not ASSAULT WEPPINS that take 2 seconds to load a 50 shell clip and are literally bazookas.
Doesn't matter if he was muslim if he couldn't buy guns he wouldn't have visited those jihadi website.
Tldr guns made omar hate faggots

>>689708397
try paying attention to the thread asshole.

>>689708646
This anon has it right.

The scene. Woman in an policestation in India, reporting her husband for rape.
>Your husband beat you and forced you to sex? There is the door. Thank you, come again.

>>689709047
Idk? Why do sand niggers keep trying to bomb planes, instead of trains or sporting events? The latter have almost no security at all.

>>689701537
education

>>689701537
You need to put that hamburger down. And make a medium-coke to stop being bigger than your head, and be at about 0.4 liters... or 0.1 gallons or wichever retarded measurment you use.
Oh yeah, related; switch to a normal way to measure.

You gun nuts need another amendment that specifies that the right to bear arms only covers a trained militia, not trigger-happy rednecks with a drinking problem.

>>689701944
This people argue about defending ourselves from the government but we'd never stand a chance. Now it's about defending ones self or others from something such as a home invasion or even the Orlando shooter

>>689701537

There's also a thing called a constitutional amendment, you fucking idiot. I don't think the founding fathers knew of concentrated explosives, tanks, modern assault weapons, grenades or body armor.

>>689709338
sure kid. you so smart. there's your education.

>>689701537
Guns are a cultural problem in America. Switzerland has a lot of guns but no school shootings. Why? Because the Swiss are not retarded. Americans are, as they prove over and over again. That is not to say America is special in this regard - most people on this planet are fucktards.

>>689709255
Irrelevant. I'm addressing your post, don't try to change the subject, son.

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>>689701537
Kill off your black population

>>689709463
Never the rednecks that shoot everyone up though

>>689709460
You are full of shit

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>>689701537
>2016
>not using the superior 416

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>>689709463
trigger happy rednecks aren't the ones killing people, try again

>>689709463
I'm not even a gun nut, but you're wrong. it clearly stats the Peoples right to bare arms.

which the People, being the general public, is establish at the start of the constitution.

>>689709463
strawman

>>689709507
but they knew about canons at the time, yet didn't write right to bare muskets, they said arms.

>>689701537
Everything any of you say is irrelevant, it's none of your business.

>>689709507
sure kid. good luck with that.

>>689709507
Mate they had their fair share of grenades and explosives back then.

>>689709554
still the asshole. did it ever occur to you that I didn't make that post? too stupid eh'.

>>689709306
Yeah, they could just buy a bunch of guns instead.

>>689709193
Shit tier b8

>>689709876
If it's not your post, then any/all of your posts are irrelevant. Not that they weren't already.

>>689707260
>To bad you can get guns in Europe huh?
We can get guns, just not assault rifles. Breivik used a Ruger Mini-14, because that was the most effective he could get his hands on (legally). A friend of mine is into pistol shooting, he has several pistols (you need to be a member of a pistol club for at least 6 months to be allowed to buy a pistol or revolver). Several of my relatives are into hunting, they have a plethora of rifles and shotguns. Me, I'm not a fag, so I don't need a gun.

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>>689710088
Stop

>>689702331
This has to be b8

>>689701537
I got here too late. This is a great thread idea, and I'm Australian. I'll be starting several of these threads from now on.

>>689701537
Well, technically, 1 of the 100+ faggots could carry a small sidearm to shoot the muslim faggot so we wouldn't have to talk about this. Or the bouncer could have a gun, or they could show the door to the Assault Rifle carrying person. That's all

>>689709992
Just sarcasm related to all the faggoty I have had to bare witness to over the past few days.
Media focus on gun control and mask the fact there was an jihad inspired terrorist attack on their home soil. So cucked it's not funny

> muh guns
> we need guns to stop the military if the government tries to kill us
>supports the military as if they were gods

so do you hate or love your government?? what you're doing right now is just putting fuel on the fire, you give the military a lot of power while buying guns for muh protection

>>689710382
Open a window, ya smelly cunt

>>689709691
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Where it says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms", it means the right of the collective, not the individual. You're cherry-picking. Why even mention a militia for no reason at all?

>>689710312
Many of the people in club had guns on them and would have used them, but they were all too busy uploading to twitter and instagram and didn't have time to defend themselves.

>>689702331
Ahh, the standard eurocurry drone post. Do you really think the military is going to drop multi million dollar ordinance on its own citizens? Wars against oneself are not sustainable, even for short periods of time. The other problem with your theory is that US military members take an oath to uphold and protect the constitution and those pesky individual rights that you can't seem to wrap your liberal minds around. Your time would be better spent concerning yourselves with the waves of refugees that are raping and pillaging across your borders.

>>689701537
>ITT: People that don't understand that, and why, the vast majority of the military and police would be on the side of the citizens and not just blindly follow the govt because of their oaths to protect the constitution and not the federal govt of the USA.

FTFY

>>689708878
Well, what are they shooting to kill people with then?

>coming from america

>>689710484
Uh... Not him but the Supreme Court has ruled several times that "the people" does in fact mean the individual.

>>689710983
But that's clearly not what was intended when it was written. The supreme court ruled in favour of what the majority wanted.

>>689704101
This is not true. After OK City we were told how much fertilizer we could buy. We have less restrictions on guns than fertilizer. - Fuck off NRA

>>689711064
You clearly don't understand that the Bill of Rights are individual rights. Yes, all of them. 10. Count them.

>>689707925
But what's the final solution?

>>689711312
The individual has the right to keep and bear arms as part of a well-regulated militia, as part of a collective. That was the intent.

>>689704949
Worst argument against guns. When's the last time you saw a redneck in a mass shooting? Fuck you people, go fucking kill yourselves. Seriously, go kill yourself.

>>689702331
Implying your gov't is your enemy shows how intelligent your redneck shitbrain is. The gov't wouldn't go against its own people in a such apparent way if it ever did which that of in itself is retarded. They could snipe you and erase you without any evidence and no one would know anything about it.

>>689711477
That's not what the Supreme Court says and has upheld countless times.

>>689711616
See:>>689711064

>tfw yurops cannot be trusted with guns because they are collectively babbies

>>689702814
>Implying the military wouldn't have mass amounts of deserters in the event of people v. Gov't

>>689711477
that is flagrantly incorrect and you are retarded
your dubs have been checked though

>>689710128
A mini 14 fits the definition of assault rifle. It is also the same caliber as an ar15.

>>689711789
Nice argument dumbass.

>>689711863
That's not even what it sounds like its supposed to mean lol

>>689711915
That's why smart people are elected to make decisions for you.

>>689711264
Because fertilizer in large quantities is more dangerous than a gun. Making explosives isn't hard and is way more devastating.

>we aint gonna take any tips or advices from no one
>we can tell others how to live and invade countries

>>689707925
>And guns, lots of Christian guns.
kek

>>689711971
Well the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed so you can suck my donk

>>689712073
Why use the word "people" and not "individual" then?

>>689711687
It was and is currently intended to be interpreted by the Supreme Court.

It's too late for you now

>>689712174
We The People are the collective population of US Citizens
They probably used people instead of individual because it doesn't sound gay.

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>>689701537
This is definitely necessary. Americans are idiots and pretty much need to be told what to do by more intelligent people.

>>689705038
>>689709764
Sorry, mum.

All of you are wrong.

Guns shouldn't be banned in America. Why? Because there are too many of them to feasibly be removed from society. It would be utterly impossible for the government to take away guns from the citizens considering the sheer number of them out there.

That's why, though I'm against the second amendment, something which was made when people had fucking muskets and lived miles apart, it would be dumb to repeal it.

The only real thing that you could do is actually strap yourself with a gun because, at the end of the day, even if the government banned guns the millions of them still out there would somehow end up in some asshole's hands anyway.

I know it's backwards logic, but unfortunately it's the most effective solution in my eyes.

>>689710382
Generally we support the individual soldiers who are actually making the commitment

>>689710484
Because the individual needs to be well armed to form the militia. What's a militia if no one shows up without a gun

>>689711477
You added a few words there. "As a collective" can not be found in the second amendment.
>inb4 the eurocurry realizes he's lost the debate and starts calling people names.

>>689712374
didn't read

>>689712310
>collective
Exactly. As part of a well-regulated militia.

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God damn I love bein' American.

>>689704949
/thread

>>689712439
I'm sorry but you are simply incorrect and it's a fact that no one in a position of power in the US agrees with what you think is true of the definition of the second amendment.

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>>689702331
I'm out of the thread with this comment. Pro-gun Americans are so ignorant and stupid it hurts my brain.

>>689712374
Criminals shoot other criminals that isn't the problem the problem is any retard can go to a store and buy a gun then proceed to kill 50 people if he wishes. Unless you hunt or have 3-4 years of training you don't deserve a gun

>>689712598
Because the supreme court would NEVER interpret something incorrectly.

>>689712374
Agreed. They're too far gone.

>>689712439
Who compromises the militia?

>>689712727
No, the second amendment is a stationary piece of text and its interpretation by the supreme court is inherently the correct interpretation no matter whether or not you agree with what they have collectively (there's that word again) decided it means.
You are dumb and most likely gay, end of conversation.

>>689702749
>300 million americans
>Assume 1% rebel
>3 million rebels
>AGM 114 hellfire missile unit cost: $80,000
>Cost to crush rebellion with drones
>$240,000,000,000

>>689712374
Wrong the people who do mass shooting purchase the weapon legally try again faggot

>>689706707
>As fast as you can pull the trigger
Any gun store.

>>689712174
Because the constitution is meant to be interpreted by whatever Supreme Court is seated at the time. It's the founders making sure the document lived well past its initial conception

>>689703941
>it's to defend yourself from robbers, domestic terroristsand religious fanatics
um um um - Fifty dead - or some huge number again.
Again - did anybody use their gun to DEFEND themselves in that night-club?
OR in any of the PREVIOUS massacres?
Did anybody use their legally-owned gun to stop sandy-hook?
Anybody?
Anybody?
Look , I don't care about your illogical statement or your faulty grasp of the facts - and I don't care if you die in another of these massacres [you aren't using rational judgement - your fear it driving your decision - so you don't count] ; I only care if the innocent die - and NEVER has any of you gun-totting Nuts Defended anybody in one of these massacres.
And now you come out with further faulty 'reasoning' : [ignorant voice] : "well if more people had guns someone would have defended".
NO.
- or maybe , just maybe if say 20% of the popluation had guns and carried-them all the time
- you know childs-swimming leason [could be a gun-nut there]
- all the time , you know K-Mart
- all the time, you know Maths-class
- all the time, you know pilates
- all the time, you know oil-change in the driveway
- all the time, you know surfing
- all the time, you know arms full of shopping with a ice-cream
- all the time, you know getting gas
: Just maybe, possibly , the good gun-nuts might stop something bad once.
And if any country is going to be the experiment to see if this works it will be the USA.
So , go on , experiment with your lives - or the lives of the innocent - I bet 7 billion to one you are wrong and the experiment will fail.
But it will take thousands of lives and totally destructive social unrest for you fearfull americans to conclude that MORE GUNS IS WORSE!
[now please die quietly - I am sick of you bleeding on the news]

>>689705358
And Bloomberg alone can throw more money out for legislation than the entire NRA

"Muh amendments can't be amended"

-America.

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>>689709460
You're full of shit.

>>689712374
It's not backwards logic, but one part is broken, sort of.

The second amendment is about self preservation. While there are people in society who wish you harm you have the right to stop them doing that. Fundamentally I feel like you agree with this, given that your outlook is to carry given the prevalence of firearms. Times have changed, the original intention may now have changed too, but crime hasn't, and the fundamental reason for the 2nd amendments original entry is still there. I've got the right to fight fire with fire if I choose to, I feel like you agree with that sentiment.

It's a bitter pill to swallow, to realise that there is nothing that can be directly done to solve firearms abuse, I think acknowledgement of the importance of the 2nd amendment is so difficult because so many people genuinely believe we could all be living in a utopic society where there is never any need for self defence on any level. It's a dream, a goal to work towards... but we aren't there, so until then we need that right one way or another.

Aside from that tiny difference I actually agree with you entirely. The firearms genie is out of the bottle, can't put the fucker back in.

I think I've read you right. It's unusual to come across this mentality but for me it's the only one that makes sense. Finding a middle ground should be way fucking easier than people like to make it.

>>689709612
Fight me irl

>>689711477
The Federalist Papers
Read them before you open your mouth

>>689701537
Vote for Trump

>>689701537
I'm Dutch and for weapon ownership, the point is not what you "need". Government isn't there to judge what stuff in my household they think I need, you don't have to justify your property to them.

The point is to have equal access to technology as government, keeping weaponry only to government will make any weapon military grade. Allow everyone to own a gun and you open up new tech for regular people.

I live in northern New England near Canada. Pretty much everyone has a gun- yet shootings never take place. I can go out and buy a rifle, put a suppressor on it, even an extended magazine, and nobody can say shit about it... I could walk in to a gas station with the thing slung over my shoulder. Do I *ever* see mass shootings within 100 miles of my town? Never!

Ameritard here
Other countries represented here, I'm curious to know what gun laws are like in your countries?
Whatever you guys are doing to not have massive shootings once a month seems to be working somehow.

>>689712901
People obviously. But it needs to be regulated.

A militia is a group of citizens who stand in the gap when there is not enough, or no, soldiers. They should be trained to defend their town when it's being invaded, and their guns do not necessarily have to belong to them.

>>689713168
Because the population is so low.

>>689702331
Bringing a gun to a drone fight. That's some Steven Seagal shit right here.

>>689712678

Actually I forgot to mention that in my original post.

I do believe that people should be able to purchase weapons, but they should have to pay for their own psychological evaluations (stress on plurality) and wait a minimum of half a year after applying for it and a significantly rigorous background check also at your own cost to get one. Honestly, I could walk into a gun store right now and get a gun 3 days from now with my clean background and I think that's stupid.

I think that if you want a gun, you should have to work for it. In other words, you have to pay several times more for the value of the weapon in order to actually acquire the weapon.

>>689713176
>Less niggers
>Actual working mental healthcare systems
>Criminal justice system that aren't under-funded, under-manned and getting packed with more horseshit

>>689701537
as far as I'm concerned, you can all go back to your respective shit holes. we as Americans left you where you were because of you holier than thou attitudes. we don't need you or you fucked up opinions. piss off.

>>689713253
And it's like 98% white people.

"one bad apple can spoil the bunch"
-proverb americans don't seem to understand.

>>689713293
That's discriminatory against the less fortunate American citizens who have every bit as much of a right, and a lot of the time a hell of a lot more need, to defend themselves.

>>689713176
I'm canadian most people own hunting rifles but that's it. It's impossible to conceil carry and no one is allowed handguns or assault weapons as far as I'm aware

>>689713344
Yeah, leave us be. Y'all already took our slaves away, what more do ya want?

>>689713494
Does anyone by chance own, say, a mini14?

>>689706707
Anywhere. It's ridiculous

>>689713028
Tl;dr, u mad bro?

>>689709306
they are sand niggers they dont think

>>689713293
I could walk into home depot and build a fully automatic submachine gun with a few hours of work in a machine shop and make some bombs too, show up at your door while you are waiting months (in your backwards, idiotic ideal world) to get your legal gun and smoke your family in front of you faggot

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>>689713561
Never heard of it but our friend from 2 years ago has when he killed 3 cops

>>689708570
>5.56 NATO
>powerful
yeah thats a negative

>>689713589
Any semi auto shoots as fast as you can pull. That's a bad argument to use. Be it 1rd or 100rds. It doesn't matter. Magazine capacity is a stupid conversation to have. That cho faggot wasn't toting a 100 rd mag. And most mags with that kinda capacity are novelty items that rarely function properly.

>>689713724
>being this retarded

>>689712678
>any retard
Cannot clear an ATF Form 4473 if you have been adjudicated mentally deficient
>you don't deserve a gun
Shall not be infringed
Inhale my bratwurst

>>689701537
Britbong checking in with a possibly surprising opinion - The US is the country with the problems, so let them sort it out. People getting shot to shit on the weekly is none of our business.

That said, it is pretty funny to see the cognitive dissonance of a nation so enraptured with guns, while simultaneously shooting the fuck out of itself, 24-7.

You don't want to give up your guns. Cool. You also don't want people to shoot up your schools and nightclubs, because that shit is messy and annoying. But at this point, there is NO solution which allows you both, so your freedoms MUST include the freedom to get your fucking melon head blown off by a retard with a firearm.

It's a dilly of a pickle, isn't it?

>>689713865
>most mags with that kinda capacity are novelty items that rarely function properly.
This
The Aurora shooter had a 100 round Beta mag on him and it malfunctioned
I'd go as far as saying it saved lives
>>689713881
>Guns are these magical things that cannot be made easily

>>689713881
It's not retarded it's just honest. By the way it's completely legal to build your own gun in the US too and you don't need to register it in any way. I think that's awesome and I also think it's never going to change :D

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>>689713561
Sure kid

Wow Jihadists have it easy. They can go on a killing spree on a bunch of homosexuals in this country and the masses will blame the fucking gun. No wonder they are winning. Takbir you fucking scum.

>>689713226
Read the Dick Act of 1903. Come back when you are educated.

>>689713887
>Being this entitled to something that happened 6 generations ago when the world was completely different place
And all you need is to be cleared mental efficent, really? That's stupid

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>>689714145

Guns in the mix make it more interesting. Imagine giving a fuck about what some faggot in a country nobody cares about thinks

>>689711857
kek

If you own a semi automatic rifle and you're not enlisted you're just a paranoid faggot

>>689714179
>And all you need is to be cleared mental efficent, really? That's stupid
This isn't minority report
You do not punish people because you do not know beyond all doubt that they will commit a crime

Repealing the Second Amendment ia an idea whose time has come.

Then I would suggest repealing the Fourth Amendment, so we can search every home in America for those illegal guns.

Then we repeal the First Amendment to shut up the NRA and of course anyone else whose opinion we disagree with.

Then we repeal the Fifth Amendment, you WILL answer our questions about your crime of owning a gun and of course questions about anything else illegal we find in your home.

Life in a Police State is great when you are the Police!

>>689713451
less unfortunate in what respect? there's better things to invest your money in than guns. To me it sounds like you'd rather starve yourself than have your rifle taken away from you.

>>689714332
Did mumma make you your tendies yet today?

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>>689701944
How about this gun? Is it acceptable?

>>689714298
You should try reading some time
You know, those funny symbols, they form words that carry meaning
>>689714332
t. Guy who does not know what semi automatic means

>>689714298
It's got what plants want!

>>689714490
very acceptable
hot gun
7.5/10
would blow a mexicans head off with it

>>689710484
it's capitalized People you fuck. and as someone has already said, it's been ruled that means the public. as in We the People in order to form ...

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>>689714410
Summer detected

>>689714391
>less unfortunate in what respect?
>Make guns expensive as fuck and require owners jump through dozens of lengthy hoops
>Not discriminatory to people who don't have lots of money
>there's better things to invest your money in than guns.
A gun is not a financial investment, it is a safety investment
>To me it sounds like you'd rather starve yourself than have your rifle taken away from you.
You bet your ass I would.

>>689714342
Never said you should punish them you just don't let them own a deadly weapon you idiot. Seriously unless you have a stalker that's been threatening your life nobody deserves to own a gun

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>>689714375
Bravo.

>>689714739
>Never said you should punish them
Restricting someones rights because you see everyone as a future criminal is most certainly punishment
>unless you have a stalker that's been threatening your life
A large number of instances where people used a gun to defend themselves it was not from some longtime stalker, it was a burglar or other assailant.

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every child in America should get one of these once they complete the third grade IMO

>>689714391
No. I'm just saying a single mother working two jobs in the ghetto has every right to buy a $150 HiPoint so that she doesn't get raped by a pack of niggers in the night. If you change the cost from bare bones $150-200 to having to clear $1000 through govt mandates and taxes and fees then you're essentially saying she doesn't have the right to adequately defend herself because she is part of the lower economic class. You can't do that because it's discrimination and for it to work you'd have to get tax forms involved and provide social programs to help her defend herself on the taxpayers dime. And then that system would get abused and drug dealers would have "Obamaguns" and it would be a shit show. Good thing we don't have that.

>>689714730
Actually firearms are a sound investment of money as long as you take care of them. They are one of the only products that increase exponentially with age

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>>689714730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv33pCUkLRM
you can make one these in a few hours with the right equipment, this is for all of you poor yuropfags who cannot into legal gun ownership

>>689715011
This.
More guns means we're safer.

>>689715207
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/12/diy-sten-gun/

>>689713451
Economic means shouldn't really be a problem if you're getting a weapon. You know why you want it. If you want it, work for it.

>>689714995
It it against my rights that I can't drive 150mph down the highway? Yes because it's dangerous and it causes deaths just like with guns. You are more likely to kill yourself with your gun then you will actually defending yourself. You simply don't deserve them your population is too stupid.

>>689715329
Surprisingly driving isnt a fundamental right, so your argument is very flawed

>>689715148
So true. We should be able to purchase nuclear warheads at Walmart, because they are arms too!

Fuck the man, trying to keep us from rising up and taking back our country from them goddamn niggers and spics.

>>689713226
well regulated means well equipped, with arms. by individuals. there is no 'collective right', this is settled law and youve been proven incorrect multiple times. just give it up, you dont have your gotcha fact, youre just wrong.

the intention was for people to own arms. everyone is in the unorganized militia without any formal anything. thats the point of the unorganized aspect.

militia act 1903, now fuck off

>>689715329
driving isn't a right in the U.S. its a privilege.
Your point is stupid and you should feel stupid.

>>689715329
>It it against my rights that I can't drive 150mph down the highway?
Please point out where in the constitution that automobiles are covered
>You are more likely to kill yourself with your gun then you will actually defending yourself.
Horseshit
The raw numbers point to it but it counts in the death of every single person who owned a gun I.E. fucking criminal scumbags
A better figure to use would be number of Conceal Carry Permit holders who were killed by their own gun, though I don't believe such a study has been conducted.

>>689707925
I can't wait for Mr Trump to get in office. Hope he kicks that zebra in the ass on its way out.

Stocking up on bags of mortar to carry to Texas so i can help build that wall

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>>689715412
Your "fundamental rights" is a bunch of irrelevent horseshit you people are so stupid.

Lets face it

the problem isn't guns, its Americans

unfortunately, its uncouth to get rid of people when they are the problem. Like children playing with knives, the only thing that can be done is we remove the guns.

EOF.

>>689701944

No average person needs healthcare, or a college education, or a car.

>>689715299
I'm ok with that. That's why we have HiPoints. So that people who can't afford much can still adequately defend themselves. But if the govt starts tacking on fees and forcing you to either be a criminal or pay hundreds of dollars to see a shrink who COULD be on the govt dime and only write refusals, that's discrimination and it is the right of every law abiding citizen, no matter their economic class, to be able to adequately defend themselves.

>>689715526
>the rights your people agreed upon aren't the rights we think you should have.
which is exactly why we split from England

>>689715570
Those are all assault weapons

>>689715011
IMO every child in England should get one and a course on gun safety. Maybe then they wouldn't be so scared of an inanimate object.

>>689715625
And you have the most prisoners most obese population and dumbest population. But you still have your gun that will never be used so I bet you feel proud.

>>689715437
lol

>muh nukes!

you could have just said you lost, wouldve been less pathetic.

>>689715526
>i couldnt have stated that i live in a nanny state any better
Oh my, you are correct. Rights mean nothing, and nobody should have any protections from their government. Everybody should just roll over and let a bunch of beaucrats control their lives. Kek

>>689715329
>You are more likely to kill yourself with your gun then you will actually defending yourself.
Even if that wasn't "Citation needed"-level bullshit - and, for the record, it is - I thought you people were all about the "right to die," and letting people off themselves whenever there's a weepy story and stirring dramatic music? By your rubric, isn't it NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS whether he kills himself with his gun?

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>>689701537
I think soon we here in Australia will be adding the right to bear arms clause to our constitution I think the time has come.

>>689709463
>the feel when own 2 guys and im a liberal in california

guns are cool m8, you dont need to be a redneck to like them

>>689708570

Talk to any American serviceman. There's two types: Ones that won't hurt civilians because it's wrong, and ones that won't hurt civilians because there's more civilians with guns than servicemen with guns.

>>689715526
and another pathetic euro ragequits lol

>>689715721
We have the most prisoners, not the most obese population, nor the dumbest. You don't even know that shit correctly.

Prisoners because our system is built on punishing people who break the law, instead of reforming them, which admittedly is bad.

We should have the right to bear arms.
But that doesn't mean we need to buy an assault rifle.
Doesn't mean we don't, though.
Just good luck finding a time to use it.

>>689715526
Oh on the contrary its much like basic human rights that you lefties are always on about Funny you should be so confused by that?

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>>689715783
Not just that he's more likely to hurt his family. I don't need a citation just google it it's common knowledge.

>>689715526
Do you have a fundamental right to peck out your opinion on your computer/phone and post it on social media?

>>689715610
Totally get where you're coming from and see where there could be an issue. I'll probably sleep on the issue and see if there's a better solution.

>>689713881
Firearms aren't some complex magical piece of equipment. Many simple and reliable designs are available and machining metal isn't hard if you have the tools. Metal working tools are not hard to come by. You won't be cranking out millions of guns like a factory but you CA build one easily enough.

>>689716088
No it's a privledge.

>>689716153
then you live in a shit tier country