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Is the AR15 the best legally obtainable gun to use in a rampage?
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Is the AR15 the best legally obtainable gun to use in a rampage? Will it get the highest kill count?
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define legal
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>>689646141
Permitted by the laws which govern the borders that you are within.
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>>689646005
>Legally obtain a gun.
>Intends to use it for legal things
Why bother?
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>>689646005
Fuck no pick up a real gun pussy, I'll sell you a ukrainian ak real cheap bud I'll cover shipping
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>>689646005
I would think a mac 10 would be more effective. Legal and fully automatic.
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>>689646005
7.62 is the real winner

5.56 was designed to be "non-lethal" in comparison, as 1 wounded soldier means 2 others to carry him off, and then money spent on treating him.
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>>689646720
Nigga you don't know anything about laws do you? I can't even get a type three license and I've been collecting guns for over a decade
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>>689646898
Pretty much.

Look up the ideas leading up to the design of both systems and rounds. Russians had lots of.PTSD from nazis

Also, use home.made explosives...or simply don't do anything and move on in life
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>>689646579
Illegally?
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>>689647033
I buy em at shows in parts so depending on where you live 300 to 400 bucks
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>>689647308
I buy and sell through gun shows and can get away with it legally by bull shitting and saying shipping was delayed all depends on the other guys state tho
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>>689646005
a tavor might be a better option within a similar price range as the bullpup configuration provides a far shorter overall length, assisting in maneuvering in tight spaces such as a night club, movie theatre, university, etc without compromising barrel length, capacity or caliber.

the real answer though is you're a baiting libtard anti, so have a look through this site
http://www.a-human-right.com/
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>>689647442
I assume you send them in parts?
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>>689646005
nope, just the weapon of choice for demonization by the media.

>its scary looking, oh em gee.
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>>689647850
Yeah but shits easy to put together (that's why I suggest an al) even if your untrained plus no paper trail left behind
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>>689646898
>non-lethal
kys
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>>689646005
Grenades are far more effective, and have a lower carbon foot print.
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>>689648147
Why'd you risk being caught?
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>>689648462
yeah really, especially since most ars are DI

don't want to clean all that fucking carbon fouling, fuck that
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>>689646005
Yes, a gun by itself will do all the work
Regardless of what charlie level bitch holds it.
Faggot
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>>689648606
Even if I get "caught" everything I'm doing is completely within the law, what the buyer is doing might not be tho depending on the state they live in
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>>689648606
If people are looking for something less legal tho I can get thermite and white phosphorus
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>>689649027
So you only ship within the US?
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>>689649561
Yes anything else is pretty damn illegal and the risk isn't worth the money I'd make
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>>689646005
Mateen used a Sig Sauer MCX, not an ar15
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>>689646932
Sucks to suck then I guess.
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>>689648347
I tried to with a 556, but it didn't work because it's not very lethal. Should have went with the 762.
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>>689649985
it's an ar platform nigga

also what a rich cunt, sig is overrated as fuck
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>>689648147
B8. You don't sell shit to nobody.
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>>689649761
Yeah, isn't worth the risk. If I were you, I'd stop selling those guns, regardless.
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>>689650426
It's something I rarely do but if a man wants a gun who am I to deny him? Unless he seems like a bitch
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>>689650290
From what reps from Sig Sauer have said none of the parts are interchangeable with the AR15 and it was built from the ground up as a completely different gun though
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>>689650290
I wouldn't say their handguns are overrated, I think they're fucking great. But those bullshit AR rifles for 1500 dollars or whatever are no better than a Core 15 brand AR for 500 dollars.
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Just bring a pump shotty with bird or buck shot, either way it will fuck up at least 8 people, or an ak of some sort if you really want blood.
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>>689646005
>2016 and not having a minigun mounted on a helicopter.
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>>689648347
>>689650253
Do you not understand the context of putting something inside quotations... or are you a troll rather than stupid?
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>>689646005
Go to a gun show, buy a parts kit for an ak, and Google how to put it together boom there ya go cheap as hell too
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>>689647820
Tavor is 4 life and not just for a massacre
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If you're gonna commit a crime like rampage, you can at least go illegal and find a black market
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Too many variables.

The skill of the shooter, the law enforcement response, the area in which the shooting occurs.

A man with a high powered sniper rifle watching a really crowded place like a beach could probably get hundreds before being taken down.
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>>689650854
Completely copying an AR 15 and slightly modifying parts (like the bolt, as this gun has no buffer tube/buffer assembly) doesn't make it not AR style. There are variations in AEK, AKM, WASR-10 and all that bullshit (many parts aren't interchangeable) but they're all referred to as AKs or AK type rifles. Going DI gas to piston still makes your gun an AR, even though the original AR is DI. There are LWRC guns that are externally different and can't accept AR hand guards, but guess what, they're still ARs.
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>>689651251
I obviously didn't try to kill myself with a 556, so you fucking tell me.
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>>689651665
Sniper rifle? Nigga, that's not even a real classification of rifles. A rifle is a rifle. What you do with it is up to you. Unless you're talking some bullshit .50 or .338 by "high power", but good luck firing "hundreds" of rounds through one of those before people hit the fucking road.
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>>689651791
But then wouldn't the more appropriate language be to say it's an assault rifle, not an AR15-type? Because when the police initially told the media they specifically said AR15-type gun, not AR which is why everyone assumes the killer used an AR15 now.
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>>689646005
A properly built bomb will always be better. Ask ol' Tim McVeigh.
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Don't use a gun be creative like poison a party or some shit man
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>>689646005
Saiga-12 with 20 round drums.

.556 wasn't even designed to be lethal. You could pull a "Matrix" in that place and just empty two pistols of 10 rounds each, chuck them on the floor and pull out two more for days as well once your drum was empty.

A semi auto shotgun would fuck shit up on a scale not to be believed compared to the glorified pellet rifle that is an AR.
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>>689652936
Spicy.
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>>689652936
No. The people nearest the bomb will effectively shield the blast from people further away from the bomb.
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>>689652811
It has to be full auto to be an "assault rifle." Libs use the term assault weapon to scare people, but if it isn't full auto, it's not a fucking assault rifle. It is an AR-type rifle. And before you ask, AR stands for Armalite, not assault rifle.
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>>689652582
Uh...they're a little bit of a different animal. Google a L115A3.

Holds the record for world's longest confirmed kill. Shoots something dumb like a .59

Guy took out two guys and their machine gun at 1.5 miles. I would presume he did so before they even heard the noise. =P
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>>689646005
Boeing 747.
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>>689653726
Well then, do you think you've got the shoulder (or money) to fire "hundreds of rounds" like anon suggested?
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>>689653418
Depends on the bomb.
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Vepr 7.62x54r or AR-10 with drum or beta if you can find one
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>>689653928
What if all the people are hiding behind steel beams though?
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>>689650290
It only shares the fire control, grip, and magazine with the AR15.

Learn how to gun...nigga.
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>>689654706
Made under the AR-15 patent. Learn how to read, nigga. It is legally an AR-15.
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>>689646005
Buy a lot, and I mean a lot of tremolite and powder it release in the AC system and let glorious slow death upon the weak.
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>>689646898
Please, kill yourself. 5.56 was designed to create a larger temporary cavity, and a sizeable permanent cavity. Stfu, cod fag
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>>689654927
AR15 "patent"? There is no real patent, retard.
Also uses a completely different recoil system and buffer system. May somewhat look like an AR, but isn't an AR.
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>>689656343
Do you not know what a patent is?
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>>689646005
SKS is superior
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The autism in this thread is astounding. If you want answers, go to /k. Although, they won't tell you shit.

>Myth:5.56 isn't deadly
Stfu, the round is designed to tumble and the cavitation effect is fatal.

>Myth: Fully automatic firearms are readily accessible
NO. You can't just go buy a Mac-10 you spergs.

>Myth: it's called an assualt rifle.
No. It's just a rifle. Has a rifled barrel. Fires rifle rounds. It is JUST a rifle. "assault" rifle was coined by ya boi hitler, and is just a scary word liberals use to describe the "baby killer 2.0 death machine" that is now the AR-15 platform.

Also, it's a magazine. Not a clip.
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>>689650290
no it isn't bitch
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>>689655983
It's actually designed to tumble. Specifically, the round was designed to maim. Entry wounds usually look like you were stabbed with an ice pick with a large internal cavity due to the bullet going end over end.

They were never designed to hit center mass or the head because everyone that would be shot with one would typically be wearing ceramic body armor. They wanted to disable/destroy a limb so that a typical team of 4 would end up with 1 disabled man, 2 carrying the disabled man, and 1 for cover fire. This disabled the entire 4 man team VS 1 kill which disables only a single member of the team.
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>>689654927
u dumb as hell
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>>689657036
Okay, cod fag. Please tell me how an aged and obsolete weapon platform like that surpasses any semi-automatic AR platform rifle
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>>689657172
Actually an assault rifle is a definable quality. It just needs a selector switch for different fire rates.
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>>689647820

AR-15 can be easily concealed with the upper and lower apart, in a backpack or duffle or gym bag, then assembled in a bathroom or something.

Downside to the bullpup design will always be slower magazine changes, if you really want to mass kill people then quick mag changes are a must.
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>>689653544
that's not what assault rifle means, you dumb as libtards are.
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>>689646005
Literally the ar15 is not big. It only even an "assault weapon" because that term was made up by the media in the 90s, resulting in assault rifle look alikes being banned like the ar15. Just a semi auto, use a shotgun or something else
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>>689657441
A full auto function does not neccisitate the term "assualt rifle."
Enlistment in any branch of service would clarify that for you
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>>689657677
I said a selector switch. Did I say full auto? No? Then don't put words in my mouth.
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>>689646005
With two Boeings and a skyscraper you can make a lot more damages
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>>689657411
It's 7.62. In a crowded room it is bound to pass through people and barriers and hit more people.
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>>689657983
Calm down little guy. An "assault rifle" isn't a thing. Unless we're speaking about an STG-44, which we are not
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>>689657545
nah, the real trick is just having more guns
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>>689656940
A patent is: a government authority or license conferring a right or title for a set period, especially the sole right to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention.

Let's see here...Colt makes an AR15. So does Bushmaster. Smith and Wesson. Ruger. Daniel Defense. Noveske. LaRue. Spike's Tactical. Core15. Anderson. So on, and so on. So no, there is not a patent.

The word you are looking for is design.
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>>689658231
With a 10 round fixed magazine? That isn't going to get the job done, unless you have the discipline to reload multiple stripper clips while sperging out. The only alternative would be to get the Norinco SKS variant, and I doubt anybody here has the connections or know-how to convert it to accept AK magazines.
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AR15 not even that good tbqh
why is everyones dick in a twist over this gun?
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>>689658251 as·sault ri·fle
noun
a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use. Right out of the dictionary. Imagine that.
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>>689653544
In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]

It must be an individual weapon
It must be capable of selective fire
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine[5]
And it should have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards)
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles, despite frequently being called such.

For example:

Select-fire M2 Carbines are not assault rifles; their effective range is only 200 yards.[18]
Select-fire rifles such as the FN FAL battle rifle are not assault rifles; they fire full-powered rifle cartridges.
Semi-automatic-only rifles like variants of the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
Semi-auto rifles with fixed magazines like the SKS are not assault rifles; they do not have detachable box magazines and are not capable of automatic fire.
The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."[19]
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>>689658789
There are many SKS variants, many of whom are easily adaptable to standard magazines.
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so many little keyboard warrior faggots in this thread. Any of you faggots own actual firearms?
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>>689658825
You're a literal retard. It is in the dictionary because Hitler coined the term and spergs like Feinstein revived it. It is just a rifle. It does not assault. It's twin, the "sniper" rifle also does not exist. Hollywood allows it to exist
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>>689659204
this faggot is correct.
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>>689658801
>why is everyones dick in a twist over this gun?
Because 100% of these assholes who've never fired a gun believe, actually truly believe it is a "machine gun." These people think the media-invented term "assault rifle" means machine gun.
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>>689659175
reported to NASA
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>>689659325
I've always wanted to be an astronaut
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>>689659204
Why do modern militaries use a a made up word then?
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>>689659204
Congratulations on going full-retard and devolving into semantics and etmological based arguments.
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>>689659581
he's right dude. Calling it an assault rifle identifies you as a limp wrist liberal faggot. Go suck off some nigger cock
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Where are your guns, Internet gunsmiths?
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>>689659204
>Hurr, I found a definition of a word that fits my argument and i'll discount the completely valid points made by other people because they're using a different definition
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>>689659621
Congratulations for attempting to show just how cerebral you are, faggot. The term is a farce
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>>689659937
Hurr durr I use liberal media sensationalism to define my terminolgy. Go kys
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>>689659983
Yep, just keep saying the same thing. Eventually we'll get sick of your idiotic, drone-like responses and leave.
see>>689658927
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>>689659621
Don't we as a people decide what is and isn't a word? Wouldn't this be an example of a popular term being given an official definition?
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>>689659621
>etmological
If you're going to try to feign superiority via intellectual capacity, at least spell correctly. Especially when the misspelled word is the cornerstone of your attempt. (see: etymological)
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>>689660145
>liberal media sensationalism
You realize your'e talking about a dictionary right? What went wrong with your life?
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>>689660325
I would say so.
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>>689660325
if a bunch of people (who don't know shit about guns) started calling them boomie shootie sticks, would you agree with them or tell them they're fucking retarded?
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This thread kills the anon.
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>>689660145
This guy is a faggot, but he's right
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>>689660543
If it were used by a large portion of the population for a specific or intentionally non-specific thing. . . . . yes
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>>689660555
Check'd
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>>689660350
Congratulations on kind of winning one part of this argument. Yes, I misspelled a word, but at least I'm not making blatantly incorrect assertions like assault rifles being a myth propagated by Hollywood.
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>>689660543
At a point, yes. Languages, especially the one we're using evolve constantly.
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>>689653418
We're talking bombs here not fire crackers.
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>>689660987
Dude just Google hitler Stg-44 and it proves that guys point. The term was dead for 50 years until Feinstein started coining it again. Jesus Christ, the retards on this fucking site are so stubborn
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>>689660448
You realize autistic trendy words are added to the Webster every year right? Culture doesn't dictate proper terminolgy, faggot
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>>689654620
Just bring jet fuel to melt them, duh!
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>>689646005
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>>689661544
>dead for 50 years until Feinstein started coining it again
So what you're saying is that it's a term that decreased in popularity, but was revived. Yeaaah...
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just a word on "assault rifle" and why it is still commonly used
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>>689661966
A term that was predominately used by Hitler and the likes. Americans didn't use it until the mid 90's. It was literally a dead word for 50+ years and was only brought back to scare sheeple. You faggots keep arguing the same points. It's not the correct terminology unless you're either a liberal fuck, or just a retard
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>>689654620
Use a flame-thrower powered by jet fuel.
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>>689661778
> Culture doesn't dictate proper terminolgy, faggot
>not realizing that proper terminology and all language comes from culture
Jokes at your expense aside though, I don't know why there's such a stick in your ass about this. Assault rifles exist, and have set definitions.
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The AR-15 comes in many calibers. One of them .30 Carbine.

This is an M1 Carbine. Also a .30 Carbine. Would you call it an assault rifle? No, because it isn't. Semi-auto with no select fire.

They are functionally the same. You could get the exact same results with this thing.

The leftist croneys are calling for bans on assault rifles and the dude didn't even use one.

An assault rifle takes a lot longer to get than a semi-automatic. Matt McWhatever couldn't have gotten one. He got what anyone could get, he just used it, for lack of a more sensitive term, effectively.

Before you preach what you want to be done about guns, check your fuckin' facts.
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>>689662339
You obviously don't know what makes a word. . . . a word. I'm going to stop debating you now because you don't appear to have the critical thinking skills for this.
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>>689662339
Or anyone who is not massively biased against the term assault rifle because of their insane delusions regarding the current discussion on firearms in America, probably born out of fear from everything around them that fucking breathes.
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>term used to create panic
>is not the correct terminolgy
>the uneducated adopted it
>it is now a word

It really is that simple
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>>689662863
Agreed. Argument is settled
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>>689662769
Just stop. He isn't going to get it.
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>>689662567
That's why I would call for a complete ban on semi-automatic firearms.
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>>689663134
But that's also retarded. Disarming the good while the bad ignore such laws is only going to get more people killed.
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>>689663134
Seconded.
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>>689663134
You're a retard
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>>689663060
Your're probably right, but it's sometimes fun too play with pigeons.
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>>689649334
You can make both of those things pretty easily. Whoopdie do faggot.
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Guns are not the optimal weapon for a rampage. You could easily kill more than 50 people by just renting a large SUV and driving it into a crowd at 70+ mph.
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>>689663134
Then why did it work in Japan and Australia so well?
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>>689663278
>>689663463
woops
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>>689663462
Probably, but when was the last time that happened in an elementary school or gay nightclub?
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>>689663463
Not as many minorities...
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>>689663366
Look at this faggot, replying to his own post lol
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>>689663463
Because they don't have niggers
Because they don't share a massive border with a corrupt country that is controlled by drug cartels. A border that liberals refuse to guard or enforce.

Japan, UK, and Australia are all islands with a mostly homogeneous population.
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>>689663730
Japan has a decent amount of minorities and Auatralia still has indigenous people.
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>>689663463
Why would they need them when Japan has ninjas and Australia has the Outback?
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>>689663730
>not as many poor people*
How have you people not figured out yet that white people in the same economic range as the average minority member commit crimes at similar rates?
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>>689662567
my god you're a fucking moron...
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>>689657673
>>689657673
Actually German circa 1943 C.E.
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>>689664011
Nothing remotely close to the USA.
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>>689646005
You're too late bro.

He beat you to the job
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>>689663718
Irrelevant.

I'm just pointing out that most massacres are carried out by copycats who lack imagination. Not that bigger and more deadly massacres are a good thing.

I'm just saying that guns are designed to attack 1 target at a time, not the best tool for killing the maximum # of people the shortest amount of time.
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>>689664114
I didn't mention income...
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>>689646720
Is this kid serious?
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>>689663914
Nice try.
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>>689657673
Will you faggots stop misusing the word "literally"?
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>>689658347
It was patented by the designer Eugene Stoner who sold it to Colt. This of course led to a series of complicated patent law suits.
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feels good mayne. ditched the vertical grip and got an angled grip.
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>>689664211
I know I was just making a joke : )
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>>689664211
>I'm just saying that guns are designed to attack 1 target at a time, not the best tool for killing the maximum # of people the shortest amount of time.

That depends on the gun. Ever heard of a shotgun?
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>>689664114
Because they don't.

There are more whites below the poverty line than blacks. There are more whites on welfare than blacks.

Yet blacks commit by far the most crimes. If what you say was true then whites would commit more crimes because there are more whites in poverty than blacks overall. Yet blacks still absolutely dominate crime stats.

You haven't even thought about what you are saying.
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>>689664287
Holy shit. did you not see the '*' ?
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No use a sig sauer like the guy in Orlando
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>>689664548
Still only hits 1 target at a time. The spread isn't that drastic. And by the time the pellets have spread enough to hit more than maybe 3 people the range is so great they won't be lethal.

Shotguns are extremely lethal at close range though, more so than the AR-15.
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>>689646005
No. Close quarters with shotgun and pistols with high capacity mags would get the best count. An AR is less maneuverable in close quarters. It's more of a long range gun. It does have more penetration, but it won't be killing 2 people with 1 bullet regardless, and dual wielding pistols, or a shotgun with buck shot would definitely do more damage, or slow down more people at the same time.

People just go with the AR because they want to feel cool.

Most of the higher records were pistol only before recently. Like Cho at VA tech, the post office guy, and the day trader guy.
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Japan and Australia's crime rates are totally irrelevant. The line on America's graph shows violent crimes and homicides skyrocketing whenever a ban was enforced.
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>>689664642
Ther are 6 times as many white people in America than there are black people, of fucking course there will be more below the poverty line you dullard. And saying 'below the poverty line, doesn't account for how far below the poverty line someone might be. I said
> in the same economic range as the average minority member
Not the best of wording, but that still does't excuse your blatant misrepresentation of my argument.
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>>689664642
>There are more whites below the poverty line than blacks. There are more whites on welfare than blacks.

That's because there are more whites than blacks. When you look at the percentages, however, a disproportionately higher percentage of the total population of blacks are poor.

You're right, someone definitely hasn't thought through what they're saying.
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>>689665415
Thank you. It's nice to know not everyone on here is an ignorant racist engaged in group think.
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>>689664994
How does it feel being this uninformed? lol
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>>689664642
Also, black crime statistics don't go anywhere near telling the whole story. The majority of blacks being murdered go unsolved. When you consider 90% of the time it's another black killing a black person if you apply that to the unsolved black murders the rates of blacks committing murder would probably almost double and make them 12 times as likely to commit murder than us, while they're only twice as likely to be poor.

Don't bother arguing with these SJWs about that. You could show them all the crime statistics in the world and they'll still play crazy mind games to convince themselves otherwise. They're College and High School kids who have lived very sheltered lives and never spent any time around real black people, so they believe the liberal delusion that they're just good, hard working, intelligent people being held down by racism.
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>>689664434
It was patented...in the 60's. But it is 2016 now; nearly 60 years later. Patents expire. It is no longer under patent protection laws, thus your point is invalid.
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>>689665727
Wow, nice argument.
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>>689664994
That was the most autistic thing I've ever read. Please go play some more see-ess-go you faggot.
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>>689646932
>689646932
neither do you-

no such things as a "class three license"

first you need to be a type 1 FFL.

then you can pay the Special occupations tax to become a class 3 SOT.

classIII is a tax bracket. not a license.

Now if you are just talking about buying a NFA item then what you are looking for is a Stamp. again its a tax.the stamp just proves that you paid it
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>>689665727
Misinformed on what retard? Clearly you are massively misinformed.

The autism levels in this thread are off the charts.
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>>689646005
I'd go with a semi auto P90 personally.
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>>689665879
You clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about and probably get your gun info from CNN about the

"Automatic assault rifles"
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>>689646005
Is it just a coincidence that AR15's with bigger Clips have bigger Magazines? It's like, they're so big, how can you compete?
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>>689646141
Topkek
>>689646330
So this gun

BTW you never said anything about civilians buying it, and the mil will buy it legally any day.
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>>689665337
Bull fucking shit. There are whites in extreme poverty just like there are blacks in extreme poverty.

You just moved the goalposts like SJWs always do. Because the facts completely fly in the face of your preconceived narrative. Fuck you.
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>>689666332
I'm talking about your childish "LOL DUAL WIELD" shit. I know what actually constitutes an assault rifle. I have a closet full of guns, not one of them an assault rifle because they take forfuckingever to get and they're stupid expensive.
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>>689646005
Ope will deliver?
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>>689665770
Most of white people murders go unsolved. 90% of white murder victims were killed by white people. And past that , you completely ignored the arguments I brought up. And past that, you just assume I'm a kid who's never been in a high minority population area. Well guess again dip-shit.
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>>689665415
>>689665651

Yes, blacks are a higher % poor. But whites still make up more of the poor as a total. Whites make up the largest group on welfare. Whites make up the largest group under the poverty line. Whites make up the largest group on assisted living.

Yet blacks commit by far the most crime.

Yes, crime and poverty correlate. But crime and race (black) correlate to a higher degree. That is a fact.

If poverty was the single biggest determining factor in crime, then whites would lead the crime stats, because they make up the largest group in poverty.
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>>689666447
Moved what goal post. That was my first argument jack-ass. Which you completely ignored apparently.
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>>689666798
Ignoring the idiocy you just spewed (like you ignored every point I made), what do you think makes them commit more crime then?
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>>689665415
>>689665337

See

>>689665770

You fucking retards. Black's poverty levels in no way explain their increased levels of violent crime. Blacks are 6 x as likely to commit violent crimes. 6 times as likely to murder and commit forcible rape. They're only twice as likely to be poor. Have you ever been to the hood? They can't fucking speak English and they're aggressive as fuck.

Blacks are violent because they have low IQs (and no, its not a result of poverty or education) and they have 15% higher testosterone levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43#disablemobile

Even NPR inadvertently proves blacks lower IQ regardless of education all the time. They always discuss how even in mostly black schools whites and Asians still make up the gifted programs as if it's representative of some sort of injustice, but those kids are receiving the exact same education black people are just not as intelligent. There are countless fucking peer reviewed studies on the subject, but out delusional PC culture does all they can to support friendly lies over inconvenient facts.

Wake the fuck up you stupid fucking people.
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>>689659877
Here is my Armalite, it hasn't killed anyone yet but it's a damn fine rifle...I mean assault weapon.
>this is sarcasm for you summerfags
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>>689667006
You created some imaginary degree of "poverty" that you can't quantify or provide any evidence for. You just magically claim that blacks are more poor than poor whites.

I proved you wrong, and you created some new qualification that isn't even definable. You moved the goalposts.
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>>689666390
Brilliant
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AK-47 converted to full auto, with homemade extra large magazines.

Bigger bullets = more kills, and if you're shooting up a crowd, accuracy doesn't matter as much.
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>>689667337
They scrutinize each other for acting like adults. Black men encourage each other to overreact and assault anyone who looks at them wrong.
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>>689646005

Only if you know how to use it. With a few weeks of training, yes. With no training, you'd be better off with a semi-automatic shotgun or better yet explosives.

This is all hypothetical of course.
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>>689666540
What kind of pussy faggot are you that you can't even shoot a pistol one handed? My little sister can one hand a 9 mm and get 1 inch groupings on an entire clip.
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>>689662567
>>689662289
>>689663134
shills shilling the fake legally undefined assualt rifle/weapon word
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>>689667424
You clearly don't know what "prove" means. This is an argument on 4chan. You can't "prove" anything here. All you've done is make assertions.
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>>689667588
Full auto is not really better at killing people than semi. You'll end up putting half a magazine into one dude and the other half in the ceiling in the time you could have killed 3 people semi-auto.
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>>689667758
Legal definition or not, a rifle is not an assault rifle if it isn't capable of fully automatic fire. I'm just sick of everyone bitching about assault rifles when the dude didn't even use one.
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>>689667337
>idiocy
I think you mean facts, nigger lover

What makes them commit more crime?
How about a natural tendency to be more violent. A natural tendency to be less intelligent. Standardized test scores for blacks are still lower than whites even in rich demographics. Rich blacks still score lower than rich whites on average.

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/testing.htm

It's also a fact that 70% of black children are raised in a single parent environment and don't have a father figure in their life. Not having a father in your life very highly correlates with crime. That is a fact.
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>>689666003
So I just googled class three license and while 'class three license' didn't EXACTLY come up, class three firearm license did. That being said, lulwut?
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>>689667911
>Legal definition or not
legal definition is all that matters
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>>689663134
how about we don't sell sand niggers guns and actually have the fbi take action during an investigation rather than just ask some questions and beat off
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>>689666798
>Yes, crime and poverty correlate. But crime and race (black) correlate to a higher degree. That is a fact.

No it isn't. You just made that shit up. You're really going to tell me that the color of a person's skin has more influence on a person's likelihood to commit crimes than their income? Fuck off. You've clearly missed the point of the argument completely.
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>>689667872
The idea is you squeeze of only a couple of rounds at a time, meaning the guy you're shooting gets hit twice.
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>>689667593
And what might make them do tis? maybe harsh living conditions such as those brought about as a result of being fucking poor. Of living in a bad neighborhood because you cant't afford anything else? Of not getting a good education? And you dont think the same thing happens when white people live in the same conditions? Because I see white people act that way all the time where I live.
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Old US high score was just 2 pistols.
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>>689668114
lol.
just lol
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>>689668094
I'm not that guy, but statistically, yes. You're more likely to get mugged by a group of nignogs than a group of white guys. Or even a group of mexicans.
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>>689659877
I see we have similar tastes in handguns.
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>>689668265
this level of autism
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>>689668213
They do it where they're the majority, too. You seen the shithole Africa is?
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>>689668094
I just proved it, moron.

If poverty was the single biggest determining factor in crime, then why don't whites, the largest population under the poverty line, commit the most crime?

Your argument would naturally conclude that since poverty is the biggest determining factor then the population with the most poverty would commit the most crime. That isn't the case.

Explain that.
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>>689668260
If full auto is no good, then why do soldiers have full auto?
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>>689668565
suppressing fire
stop making yourself look retarded
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>>689646498
as easy as illegally
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>>689668565
suppressive fire
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>>689646005
no theres still gun free zone signs. impossible in certain areas
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>>689664518
slick
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>>689667995
Yeah, That's exactly what you would expect to see when on average black people are poorer than white people. Did you even look at your own graph? And so what about the single father statistic? Do you have any evidence to show that the same doesn't hold true for white people in the same economic range? And do you have any evidence supporting your claim that their inherantlly more violent that doesn't blatantly ignore the points I've been making?
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>>689668318
What did he just fucking say?
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>>689667995
>Standardized test scores
>Natural violent tendencies

And these correlate.. How? How does scoring lower on a test make you more violent?

>It's also a fact that 70% of black children are raised in a single parent environment and don't have a father figure in their life. Not having a father in your life very highly correlates with crime. That is a fact.

Exactly, dumbass. It has nothing to do with race.

If you think this proves anything, I suggest you jump from the number of your chromosomes down to your IQ.
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>>689668689
Have you provided any evidence to back up your claim that full auto is solely for suppression?

The burden of proof is on you by the way, because basic logic dictates that the more rounds you can shoot then the more people get shot, especially if it's a crowd, like in our most recent shooting.
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>>689668470
You see how poor Africa is? Every poor place in the world has high crime rates. Seriously, have you read a goddamn thing I've written?
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>>689669053
>pic pointing off my computer screen

who's the retard now idiot?
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>>689668094
Let's totally ignore the fact that you're just blatantly wrong for a second.

Even if the povery rates explained the difference, the reason they're poor is because they're fucking dumb and lazy, so it's still inherent racial inferiority leading to their situation.

How do you rationalize this? One fucking race. Out of all the people in the world it's always one fucking race that's dumber, unable to speak the local language properly, never making Amy significant contributions to that society, complaining, wanting hand out, committing most of the crime. It's not some mysterious world wide oppression that no one is capable of putting their finger on, they're just way worse at being civilized than every other group of people on the planet.
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>>689668811
Yes I did look at my own graph.

Look at how poor whites who live in a household that makes 10K a year still outscore blacks who live in a household that makes over 70K a year.

Poverty does not explain poor test scores. Middle upper class blacks still score worse than the poorest of the poor whites.

You can't even read the fucking graph.
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>>689669115
your fedora is showing kid
>you have never shot a high powered rifle in your life
https://www.quora.com/In-what-situation-would-a-modern-soldier-fire-an-assault-rifle-on-full-auto-Burst-Semi-automatic
here you stupid swine 18 year old piece of shit
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>>689669053
If I had to guess it would be based on the fact that you can't think your way out of your situation so you decide to smash your way out.
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>>689664419
No point in asking that. Children use "literally" as a filler word now. It has no meaning in the sentance and acts like a mental pause or breath for them while they mentally remove letters, change spelling or try and think what they are going to say next.
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>>689669115
> implying you can full auto fire hitting human sized targets at 300 meters away
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>>689668565
They don't. The army took away full auto because it is a waste of ammo. Only special forces get full auto because they are highly trained and know when to use it. The average troop only gets 3 round burst.
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>>689669197
Uh-huh. And if blacks being poor is the white man's fault, then why is Africa such a disaster where every leader is black?

Fuck, let's bring it home. How about Detroit?
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>>689668318
>>689668094

Ahh yes, Mexicans are a great example. Even higher poverty rates, but still FAR less violent crime than blacks.

The statistical significance of black's higher violent crime rates is fucking insane. 6 times! Without eben taking into consideration the weighing of the unsolved murders, which would.absolutely lead to a much higher number.
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>>689669283
Wow, it's almost as if their are cultural issues that may contribute to this, but, moving past that, did you not read any of the rest of my comment. Or are you purposely avoiding dealing with it?
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>>689668506
Assuming that what you say is even true (i.e. sources please), there are still far more plausible explanations than "It's in their blood".
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>>689669274
>never making Amy significant contributions to that society
Who's Amy? Do you have pics?
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>>689660543
Yes that would be fucking awesome
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>>689669274
hear hear
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>>689669550
300 meters? What sort of crowded venues are shooting up? Olympic stadiums?
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>>689668811
>on average black people are poorer than white people

>graph just showed 70k income blacks do worse on average to 10k income whites

you sure you reading the graph properly?
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>>689669550
It can be done but you're gonna need more ammo.
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>>689669668
First admit you were fucking wrong, faggot. I'm tired of you just side stepping every time you get proved wrong and moving to a new point without ever admitting im right, again.

I've debated people like you far too many times to fall for this shit. You can't just ignore every time you are proved dead fucking wrong and keep asking for new evidence on new topics.

fuck you
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Not reading this thread, but full auto is not just for suppression. Primary use is to provide direct enfilating fire, meaning that you put the most rounds on target in a manner that is shooting at the highest volume of targets, IE down a line instead of at the middle of the line. Suppression is an aspect it can be used for, yes, but fully automatic weapons are used as the most casualty producing weapon.

Also, if you shoot up unarmed people you are a coward, and will be remembered as such. There is no glory in bloodshed, and there is no sense in causing that much destruction. There are better ways to get back at society than killing unarmed people; a person that is nothing more than scum who is too afraid to lose to actually fight.
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