You have provided no evidence as to why that the whole "guns dont kill people" argument is false
also this thread and all threads like it are b8

>>689598306
Places with fewer guns have fewer gun deaths.

>>689598674
i like you

>>689597885
You see the problem is they don't carry guns, in United States we need more good people carrying guns that way they prevent criminals who have guns.

>>689598674
/thread

>>689598674
Its actually amazing how americans try and dispute this with terrible logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk&ab_channel=JonLajoie
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Anonymous 06/14/16(Tue)23:50:31 No.689597885▶>>689599442
Aurora, 12 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

Binghamton, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

Fort Hood, 13 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

Edmond, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

San Bernadino, 14 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

San Ysidro, 21 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

Killeen, 22 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE"

Newton, 27 dead
"GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE I KILL PEOPLE"

>>689599682
ffs did it wrong oops.
well for the sake of random I think it's ok right?

>>689597885
>Maybe it's time to admit that guns do kill people.

wait a minute i will place my loaded ar-15 on the table and wait till it massacres my neighbors

>>689597885
Education would save lives not a ban. Aslo this is a shill thread.

>>689597885
Maybe it's time to admit a pencil can kill people.
And spatulas.
And puddles of water.
And tufts of rabbit fur.
And elephant shit.
And beer.
And cars.
And networking cables.
And rocks.

... its time to admit the problem is the wrong people have guns.

>>689598674
And more murders.

Only a slave population is disarmed.

>>689599626
it's amazing that such a useless point could be thought to be an argument.

>>689600266
How can you say that with a straight face?

A gun is literally a fucking killing machine

The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned, the ONLY thing people want, is to make it more difficult, and by more difficult people mean, nobody should be allowed to walk into a shop and buy a gun without any sort of check

>>689597885
All your shooting are due to niggers and social problems.

>>689600578
Here comes the terrible logic...

>>689600409
Funny how Americans simultaneously pride themselves on the strength of their military and believe they can defeat it with local militias

>>689600853
>The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned, the ONLY thing people want, is to make it more difficult, and by more difficult people mean, nobody should be allowed to walk into a shop and buy a gun without any sort of check

.. what part of "the wrong people have guns" did you miss, dumbass?

>>689597885
>27 dead 1 injured
may have beaten his score but no one will beat his accuracy %

>>689600266
Yes it is time to admit the wrong people have guns and that is because they are so readily available you fucking retard.

>Ban all guns! Yes, that will make all the insane people go away and we can live happily ever after!
You do realize that a psycho can still manage to nab a weapon even if all mer gurhns are banned? I live pretty close to what you call a white ghetto, not a trailer park, just pure filth and you are stupid to think that I won't have my 12 ga riot gun/9mm loaded at all times then you are a fucking moron
>But the police, they can save you.
No

>>689601215
That argument is pure hyperbole

Just look at the statistics, wherever there are more guns, there is more gun violence.

There are safety laws governing everything but as soon as it's even suggested that there are safety laws governing A FUCKING KILLING MACHINE everyone loses their shit.

How many more mass shootings do there have to be to make people realise they're talking complete dog shit

>>689601547
NOBODY WANTS TO BAN GUNS FFFUUUUUCKCKCKCKCKCK

>>689601065
other then the blood thirsty, do you think the American Military would willingly open fire on it's own citizens.......yeah they probaly would.

>>689601482
... if you would stop being mad for a second you would get what I just said.
>>689601586
>hyperbole
... I dont think you know what that word means, dumbass.

Pro gun people say "Criminals don't obey gun laws"

They don't even have to because there fucking aren't any

>>689601980
>"muh grammar"

>Maybe we should limit the sales of certain weapons
MUH FREEDUMS! OBAMER TRYIN TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY

This is literally what you sound like to the rest of the civilized world. You used to be a respected country. What happened?

Top Anti Gun Control Arguments on 4chan

"Guns don't kill people people kill people"

"Niggers"

"Muh freedomz"

America, I love your TV and movies but you're becoming an even bigger joke than ever before. Your next president is going to be either Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton and you have lunatics killing multiple people every week. Wake up, do something.

>>689601967
I think they get what you mean, I think you're being willfully ignorant to the connection between the availability of guns and bad people buying guns.

>>689597885
people kill people but guns make it really fucking easy to do it

Its just pointless talkin about it,america loves death.

>>689601967
I'm not mad, I'm just writing words on a screen. I get what you said but it's just a fucking lazy argument with nothing to back it up. The wrong people have guns, we understand that, Captain obvious but that's because anybody can get a gun.

MUH SECERD WRIGHTS! DEY CAN'T TAKE WAY' MUH FREDUM!

Maybe if we ask nicely the criminals will turn their guns in

>>689598306
only when you admit spoons make people fat

>>689600578
found the american

>>689599442
except criminals don't commit mass shootings. They very much wants to live. It's the seemingly good people with no criminal background with a AR shooting the fuck out of people.

>>689597885
Shill thread. Paid for by Shillary and friends.
Designed to polarize. If pro-gun folks can be enraged into saying stupid things (preferably, actionable things - like threats) - then they can be highlighted in tabloid fashion as examples of how irrational pro gun people are.

This is bait, plain and simple. Don't nibble.

>>689598674
This

>>689597885
Or maybe it's time to admit that our mental healthcare system fails so hard, our security needs to step up monitoring on suspects, and that radical Islam is an enemy

>>689603556
Is this dumbfuck serious?

>>689602861
you do realize there are criminal background check with the legal sale of every firearm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEihkjKNhN8

>>689597885
WWI - 20 million dead.
WWII - 50 million dead
Civil War - 500,000 dead
Napoleonic Wars - 5 million dead
Vietnam - 22 million dead
Communist Russia - 50 million dead
Communist China - 100 million dead

Only government should have guns, because that is the only way to make sure that no one is killed by guns. Do people actually believe this?

>>689599442
Then the good people shoot people who dont deserve to get shot because they thought they were armed. Just one example, wont solve anything

>>689603724
You know, people with real jobs don't have to lie for a living. You did know that, right?

>>689597885
Or realize that you just described the deaths of 0.000000001% of the population, so who gives a fuck.

>>689603792
that's blatantly untrue

>>689604002
Oh god he's serious

>>689604132
NICS background check nigga

>>689597885
Literally nobody could stop people from acquiring guns
Learn the rules of free market
>supply and demand bitch
Besides if they didn't have a gun they could easily rig a bomb

There's too many guns out on the streets already. If someone wants to go on a suicidal murderous rampage they'll use all of their resources to accomplish so. Mental Health is the big issue here.

>>689599830
It wont do shit, but it would help YOU kill people en mass after you find out niggers fuck your mom on the regular.

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>>689599830
Holy fuck americans are retarded... imagine how hard it would be kill 50 people without a gun. No guns = less mass murder

>>689603792
Reported for lying. Bought a five seven at a gun show with just ID and cash. Walked out with the gun same day.

>>689603792
Dylan Roof had previous convictions for drugs and trespassing. Omar was on an FBI watch list. People definitely slip through the cracks. That's not to say its frequent, but clearly these background checks aren't sufficient.

I stand behind you in line at the store with a smile on my face...and a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me next to you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into the grocery store and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family and therefore protect you and your family. I may get shot before I can pull the trigger...but, I won't die in a helpless blubbering heap on the floor begging for my life or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings. I won't be that victim. I choose not to be. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun. If you are not comfortable, then please don't. But I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim. There is evil in the world and if evil has a gun, I want one too...

>>689601215
The "wrong people" just go fucking buy them, and if they don't have any criminal history they get it same day. Fuck you

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>>689600266
So true
Nice dub btw

>>689597885
Oh yeah because criminals are so known for following the law

>>689604443
And technically that's illegal, but unenforceable.

>>689601547
The people who sell guns illegally get them from somewhere, and its easy because there's so many

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>>689597885
For those who will not place any blame on the access of guns in America I'm willing to challenge anyone of you. Give me your name, address and phone number. I'll come to you. I'm a gun owner just not a military grade gun owner. We'll do a simple test. I get a gun you get a rock. We stand 30 yards apart. Someone yells go and we each use our weapon. My gun, your rock. Guess who survives? Me. The gun doesn't commit the murder but it makes it a hell of a lot easier and deadlier.

>>689603792
You realize any motherfucking with enough money can waltz into a gun show and buy whatever he wants without a background check, right? Hell, there are gun sales/trading groups on Facebook for fucks sake.

Just remember, it took the swat team 3 hours to get to the orlando shooting.

Police won't save you.
Be your own first responder.

>>689598674
Gun Deaths is a misleading number. 60%+ of gun deaths are suicides.

>>689601926
Only until you were ordered to massacre your home town, then things would start to change.

Ok I'm a Canadian and I don't get why you idiots want to "regulate" guns.
You know fucking cars kill more people right? Banning or not banning guns won't cause a significant loss of life and you fags need to get over it.

>>689605609
ITT every gunfag thinks theyre a special forces trooper.

>>689605737
And of the remaining, 80-90% are city niggers shooting each other.

>>689603862
Nigger what are you doing, stop making us look bad

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>>689597885

The homicide rate has been in decline for 30 years and mass shootings account for 0.2% of total homicides. So basically you're basing your opinion entirely on federal policy entirely on statistically insignificant outliers.

Ever think about making your own opinions based on statistics rather then letting the media and politicians manipulate you with inflammatory new articles?

PS: Come and take it you little bitch.

>>689605593
motherfucker*

>>689605374
Will that be your trial defence? "It wasn't me! It was the gun!"

Let's just say you managed to ban sales of firearms. That still leaves 270 million firearms out in the public. There's still access to those weapons.

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The NRA, gun manufacturers, and gun dealers are very sorry people are dying from mass shootings. The only solution is of course to buy more of their guns. It's not about profit, its about protection and your freedom. Your safety is 30 rounds of liberty and freedom in a AR, you carry with you on your back at all times.

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>>689605737
That's a fucking lie you POS. I can do that. 60% of those suicides are committed by Rainbow Trouts.

>>689605874
Not at all faggot. But 99.99999% of the time cops don't stop crimes. They just report the aftermath. As a gun owner, I'm not special forces, but I'm not a helpless bitch either.

>>689605609
Be your own first responder...

...To a crime that wouldn't have happened with proper gun control

Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

>>689597885
>Newtown
>27 killed.
>1 injured.

Good aim.

>>689606028
He'd have to actually show up first instead of being some fuckass keyboard warrior.

>>689597885
Guns alone don't kill people, guns in the wrong hands kill people.
That's why stricter gun control is clearly necessary because the wrong people are getting guns too easily.

Guns don't kill people, I kill people.

With guns.

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>>689606056

The government, law enforcement, and spy agencies are very sorry people are dying from mass shootings. The only solution is of course to disarm the people. It's not about power or control, its about protection and your freedom. Your safety is 30 rounds of liberty and freedom in a AR, carried by your local police at all times.

Now lick the boot.....LICK IT!

>>689597885
Guns cause more violence and death. I'm still pro-gun for three reasons: Shooting is fun. Our government is dangerous. Boar hunting is annoying with a bow.

>>689603862
Whoa there friend
You made too much sense, the eurocucks will never respond to such a post

>>689601689
False

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>>689597885
...the guns are self-aware and capable of operating themselves now??? Oh boy

>>689606486
That won't change anything. If someone wants to go on a murderous rampage, a "stricter gun law" won't stop them.

it makes me laugh the ways amerifats defend their 'need' for guns, how retarded can you be to not see that being able to buy an assault rifle is not sensible when autists from 4chan exist to carry out mass shootings

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>>689605936
>Life in the US now 4 times more deadly than the Wild West

>>689607135
Wild West is all myth you moron. It wasn't that wild.

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>>689600266
Here's the difference: enter a school and try to kill 20 people with tufts of rabbit fur.

The judge will probably reward you for your skill rather than punish you. However, any sperglord can kill 20 with a gun.

The problem is that those who want guns are the wrong people to have guns.

>>689605755
Stupid stupid stupid stupid. You do realize that cars serve a purpose? It's called transportation. When was the last time you used and AR-15 to get to work or the store or your whore girlfriends house? Excuse me, boyfriend. An AR-15 is used for one purpose and one purpose only. To kill people. You don't use an AR-15 to slice bread, to drive to work, to clean your bathtub. You use it to kill other people. And when a car is considered dangerous(see Ford Pinto) we pass laws in this country to change it. In this country my Canadian friend the Republican congress passed a law not allowing government agencies to study gun deaths. What are they afraid of? They may actually prove that guns are dangerous. You're a stupid fucking faggot. Clueless.

>>689607135
Ya gee I wonder how reliable homicide convictions and statistics were tracked in the Wild West

>>689601482
word

>>689607433
>afraid in particular of AR-15
It's just a normal rifle with some scary black plastic bits attached, you fucking baby

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>>689597885
sigh the pasta, again.
people die. some people die cause of bullets, a lot more people die because of cars.
people die, get the fuck over it.
just think about how much worse the world would be if people didn't die.

also you will die. the one and only thing you can be guaranteed to happen in your life is you will die. stop being so carried away with your own self worth that you don't deserve to die. cause you do, and you will.

>>689607433
Purpose is irrelevant, dumbfuck. Property is property, end of story.

>>689605936
Umm, stupid fuck. There was no "wild west". That was the movies. There were no studies back then either. Clint Eastwood is not a real cowboy. Back then people had to check their weapons before they entered city limits. Back in the "wild west" guns were used to kill native Americans, not each other. Your chart is as fake as pretending you have brain.

>>689598674
and more deaths by other means, people kill people because they are mentally unstable. americans have more mentally ill people because of bad diet probably because of mcdonalds.

>>689607433
>Stupid stupid stupid stupid
typical libtard cunt who knows zero- and thinks that shout-down is the finest rhetorical tactic. your implied definition of "used for" is emblematic of your shitbrain. thou art agendashill + faggot.

>>689598674
This is the worst b8 I have seen. Only one rating can be used
>9/11

>>689607753
It's not the AR in particular moron. It's semi autos with 30 round mags.

Bolt action rifles are all you need for hunting.

>>689600853
>The best part is NOBODY is saying that guns should be banned,
i am

>>689606425
let's be friends
>>689601467

>>689607055
If they can't get a gun to go on the murderous rampage with then they can't do it.
So a stricter gun law would stop that from happening in some cases at least.

The guy who shot up Pulse legally bought his weapons a few days before.
If he didn't have such easy access to those weapons the attack would have been much harder to orchestrate, maybe he would not have done it.

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>>689608251
Hunting isn't the issue, dipshit.
It's about the right to self-defense, and the ability of the people to resist tyranny. Without guns, we would all still be living as serfs, the de facto property of the local lord and his professional soldiers. Eat a dick, you stupid faggot.

>>689597885
HOLY FUCK the pistol I keep in my desk just got up and went to go find dindus to kill. Man all this time I was thinking it was people that kill people not guns.

>>689603862
and the general public having guns stops those wars how again?

>>689607753
Wrong. An AR-15 can easily be altered to be a auto weapon. You've probably never even touched a gun. Let me teach you something. What differs an AR-15 is once it's fired a new round enters the chamber and you fire again. That makes it a Semi-auto weapon. But once you alter it, which is easily done, all you have to do is hold the trigger and multiple shots will be fired. You don't know dick about guns because you've never owned one. You just like to act like some tough guy. Lesson complete faggot.

>>689608982
If that's so, then why did none of the mass shooters who used an AR-15 make this easy alteration? Isn't it easy to do and makes the gun super deadly, or are you just full of shit?

Then explain why the highest concentration of gunowners never has any gun problems? Its a nigger/sand nigger/white trash problem not a gun problem.

You know what, fuck america, let it kill itself if its that what it wants

>>689608977
>if some assholes take over the country and start sending people to the gulags you should just bend over
Found the faggot

>>689604755
HOLY FUCK

I bet you were fapping as you wrote that fantasy.

I don't feel ANY safer standing beside someone who wants to make themselves [and family] a target in that kind of situation.

>>689608336
Then you sir are a flaming faggot who should an hero, preferably with a gun

gud thread OP

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>>689609987
>find ourselves in the middle of paris or orlando shootings
>everyone around us getting gunned down indiscriminately
>"At least no one is making themselves a target by having a gun"
This is what eurocucks actually believe