>>689377785
Didn't know him, can't really say.

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I think he could have used his powers as a leader to do much for human kind that just murder people.

>>689377785
He is rememberd as the most evil man because of the killing machine he created. However, he did some good military improvements (weapons, equipment, communications...). He was a little bit idiotic in relation to his "friendship" with Mussolini, which was not good at all for him.

Nevetheless, nazism should always be considered deplorable and never supported despite of offering some interesting issues to study.

>>689377785
Not really fair to judge him as a bad person based on how many deaths he caused due to the fact there are other historical figures that have killed many times more and no one seems to ever talk about them.

>>689378863
He was a fantastic leader, all politics aside. To inspire millions of people is a rare gift.

>>689377785
He was a good guy

I am amazed by how he was able to gather the support that he did and reading Mein Kampf really opened my eyes to how people can be manipulated.

The only real reason why I love the Nazis is because they make a perfect enemy. I know which side I'd be on in the war.

Only the victors get to write history.

Although the nazi regime has certainly done some horrible things to mankind, we can only wonder for what things Hitler was personally responsible. Most definetly a lot, but surely not all.

Apart from the bad, he did some great things as well. Volkswagen is an example. His plans for the perfect city (Germania) were pretty advanced for its time. In order to get the German economy back on its feet, he put a load of regulations in place and they worked like a charm. Economists called it a wonder. One of these things stemmed from his hate for the bankers (jewish, yes.) who were deemed greedy by him, and rightfully so. As such, Hitler abolished interest on loans and such. This, and a lot of other ideas to prevent corruption were certainly good ideas we will most likely never see again.

The nazis should of taken their genocides else where like the British did ,away from Europe.
People don't care about shit in a toilet but they do when it's on the kitchen counter

>>689379999
Checked

I genuinely believe he did nothing wrong. The kikes run everything now

>>689379999
checked

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Idk guys, he seems cool and all, but I think he's a Nazi

>>689379999
>should of
kill you'reself

>>689380584
>Being a grammar nazi in a thread about actual nazis

>>689380659
I try

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>>689377785
Except that Hitler didn't advocate the killing of anybody who wasn't white.

>>689380133
Everything? As in every governement and business etc everywhere in the world?

>>689377785
>his economic policy's were top notch
>cared about the environment
>outlawed animal torture

The good:
>Great leader - charismatic and well-meaning
>Truly wanted the best for the Germans
>By his methods, albeit harsh, Germany went from being completely bankrupt to being on top of the economic world stage

The bad:
>Went mad with power and the whole "We are the best and no one is as good as us" thing
>Wanted endless expansion for Germany, which completely destabilized the rest of the world (and got Germany into the complete bankruptcy again)
>German progress came from a fire that united them - which, in this case, was a common enemy, the Jew.

Overall I think that if he hadn't gone so powerhungry and started getting reckless he would possibly have been one of the best figures in human history. The thing is... the way he achieved his power, and what he planned to do with it, was inhumane and a little bit "too ruthless" for the people of that period.

>>689377785
Few in this thread actually know what Hitler did. The rest are victims of the propaganda that their educational systems have taught. The truth is Hitler was one of the greatest minds of the 20th century. Hid ideology would have created a system where each person had a future.

Too bad only the Germans were blamed for ww2, General Patton understood Germany far better than any president.

>>689378936
The man's biggest flaw was the friends and advisors he kept. Literally just a parade of yes-men and some of the slimiest motherfuckers around. Great leader, shit judge of character.

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He was dellusional and only achieved power thanks to the giant economical and moral crisis of Germany.
But I respect his ideas of reviving the roman imperial dream.

>>689381005
yes

Hitler found a third economic path forward, neither Communism nor the (((debt slavery))) we seem to favor in the West.

For this the Jews damned him.

I don't think we would a muslim problem in Europe if hitler wouldn't die.

>>689381428
Well that's depressing. Anyway to turn things around?

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> 'kill everyone who isn't white'

You don't know as much about hitler as you think you do. There were entire divisions of black and arabian soldiers in the SS. One of the the tippy top commanders was jewish and 150,000 jews served as soldiers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Arabian_Legion
The history books are written by the victors, and that's why it's commonplace to think of Hitler's ideology as hateful, but it was far from it. Hitler wanted every single race and culture to have their own racialist utopia like the germans were trying to create for themselves.

he was a great leader economically...

>>689381468
Same as Jesus.

No 6 Mio Jews were killed. It was a made up number by the allies during the Nuremberg trials. In Europe at that time only 1.5 Mio Jews were there before.... Also many of the charges were invented after they were executed

>>689381586
But then why try to take over all of europe? Why not stay in Germany and make it a utopia?

>>689377785
You can check a few of his speeches here >>>/wsg/995199, they are pretty good, regardless of what you think of him.

He was able to inspire people, but he should've let his generals do their own shit and let them fight the war they knew how. Yet he thought he was better than them and overruled their decisions. I doubt he was really responsible for the whole holocaust thing (there were fanatics like Himmler that most likely were more responsible, Hitler just provided an opportunity). All in all, I wouldn't say he was a great leader since a good leader would listen to his people and he did lie in few cases to appeal to the poor people (got a ton of dosh for his book for example and I have no doubt he'd make a pact with US so he would escape like it was written in FBI papers). And his sister was right, he did make Germany better than it was. https://youtu.be/_1n9tQxNSZA

>>689377785
Or the fact that he had 6 million innocent people executed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

Watch thirty minutes of this documentary if you want the real truth about Hitler and WW2.

>>689378863
The same could be said for any politician of high authority

>>689377785
I think it's because the world heard the agony that the jews were in. Nobody heard the stories from the victims of the crusades plus the jews were killed almost on an assembly line style

>>689381586
So it wouldnt be crazy for a non-white person to admire Hitler?

Mass hysteria based on paranoid jumps to conclusion. Its basically if a racist conspiracy therorist who blames others for his failure became dictator.

>>689381797
Because they were taking back lost lands and eliminating threats to their utopia. In a utopia, you don't need a military because you have peace. Don't you think taking out Russia and keeping the allies from ruining your utopia come before building it?

>>689381586
Yeah, the "Jews" thrown in work camps weren't thrown there for being Jewish, they were thrown there for breaking the law by practicing usury or for being political dissidents trying to oust Hitler. The whole Jew-hate thing is way overblown, mostly they were just removing Gypsies, gays, tards, and other "undesirables". Only the severely mentally retarded were put immediately to death. Everybody else was worked until either their sentence was over or they died. Thus were the Third Reich's work camp prisons feared and thus their laws were respected.

>>689381541
its much to late were all doomed, don't take my word for it tho im just some jack-off on 4chan

>>689381586
Nice wiki link! what college did you go to?

>>689382205
Then why make them wear a star of david in the ghettos/camp? Are you saying a normal Jew who committed no crimes would have been treated like a regular German?

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>>689381797
It was never their intention to take over all of Europe. The land taken from Poland was once German land and when the Germans saw how their people were being raped and slaughtered by certain groups within Poland they decided they needed to retake what was once their land for the good of their people.

The invasion of soviet Russia that would spell Germany's downfall was a preemptive strike. It seemed the best course of action seeing as the west had joined up with the bolsheviks and it was only a matter of time before the full military force of the world rained down on Germany. Sadly that still happened. The soviets raped everything that moved, the British firebombed Dresden, a city full of innocent refugees and priceless works of classical architecture, and the Americans put the nazi soldiers in camps until many of them starved or died of thirst.

>>689382205
Met an Auschwitz survivor he told a different story then the one you got from a fucking Wikipedia link.

He was the kind of fascist who wouldn't exploit his own people (besides his demographic shit list) In the modern US we've got all kinds of gov. surveillance and the erosion of rights dividing us. Hitler would've unified Germany had he not gone mad with power and bit off more than he could chew with WWII and his personal vendetta-fuelled genocide.

>>689377785
THIS GUY IS A LEGEND

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This whole thread

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>>689382426
That's actually the case. One of Hitler's most trusted and decorated commanders was Jewish.

It's a gross misrepresentation how people think that the camps where filled with Jewish people, when in reality it was gypsies, gays, and criminals some of which were Jewish.

The reason that the "six million jews" estimate exists is because it was a required part of the prophecy of the founding of Israel. Religious people simply manipulated others into thinking their prophecy had come true. They'd been at it for decades at this point, insinuating the six million figure into any situation where they wanted to suppose it being part of some holy prophecy.

>>689382278
Quality rebuttal my friend. Get lost on your way to reddit?

>>689382575
You forgot to mention anything about German death squads or the fact that they bombed London too

>>689382632
Of course. Every kike will lie. Not to mention every US soldier will tell you different than the text books from his own experience.

>>689383023
>One of Hitler's most trusted and decorated commanders was Jewish.

OP here. Never heard of this Jewish commander. Link to more info please?

>>689377785
His people were ruined sinced the 1918 treaty was signed. He brought them up from the poverty that was inflicted upon them. He was a hero up until he started lying to his own people.

https://youtu.be/X2Mi7w7WId4 kid gets raped in jail by gards and nothing happens

>>689383023
>One of Hitler's most trusted and decorated commanders was Jewish.

Really? Who?

>>689379937

Then you now know exactly what book Trump read before he wanted to become president.

>>689383023
You can't just say one of his commanders were Jewish and then not give a name or any fucking evidence

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>>689382118
Not at all. Hitler wanted every non-german and non-white to have the same thing that the Germans had. A nation that cared for its people above all else. A place you would be proud to call home, a place which would be proud to call you a citizen.

>>689377785
Nazi medicine methods were really efficient, I honestly think that nowadays fucked up criminals should be used for testing in laboratories.

>>689382426
Unless someone in their family got them sent to the ghettos or camps then yes. There was definitely a public phenomenon of false claims against Jewish families, and Hitler definitely incensed the already boiling anti-semitism in Germany. The hatred of Jews wasn't new, every culture they've interacted with since the beginnings of record-keeping has despised and reviled them.

If there was any winner of WW2 it was the Jewish people. They got a country and a platform from which to spew their hatful rhetoric which can no longer be politically assailed because they can but whisper "anti-semitism" and a thousand duped Gentiles will rush to their aid. They gained power and influence while all we got was the Great White Guilt.

>>689383117
They didn't target London because it was historical. Why do you think big Ben still stands?

>>689383108
Try to steer the argument to insults that are irrelevant to the topic, whys that?

absolute genius. after his time in jail he ninjad his way into power like sam fisher. he was maybe a couple screws loose but in terms of political strategy, he was a mastermind. as for war he was too greedy and that was his ultimate downfall.

>>689383250
Erhard milch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Milch

He was even declared an "honorary aryan" whatever that means.

>>689383257
>liberalfag detected

>>689383144
Well yes American text books lie in there favour but this was a world war America wasn't involved till later on so who was spreading the lies of innocent jews being killed during the war?

>>689383423
You're not even worth responding to. Consider this post a courtesy.

>>689383364
>The hatred of Jews wasn't new

This is something that DOES annoy me. People act like Hitler was the first one who didnt like the jews. All the information says otherwise. Hell, read any book from before WW2 and see how Jews are potrayed.
Spoiler: As awful scum.

>>689383301

Killing Jews was not because he hated Jews. But because it was the cheapest option. That's why they used gas too. Bullets are very expensive.

I still wonder where Germany got all the funding from to fund the war. They say the USA funded the Nazi's.

>>689383585
The Americans at the Nuremberg Trials. Who else?

Hitler was a very accurate representation of people of his time. If he had never existed, any number of other fascists would have done exactly the same thing, with a slightly different style. Anyways, we all know it was his generals that pushed for the heaviest and most brutal war crimes. Well, war crimes compared to today's standards. Back then, genocide was not a war crime, and was kind of expected in war.

See: U.S. occupation of North America.

>>689383390
Because they didn't hit it?

>>689383636
I think they took out massive loans from American banks. I dont even think they bother to hide that fact in history books any more

As obvious to anybody not believing in absurd antisemitic conspiracy theories and falling for Nazi-fans conterfactual histories like a retard, the nazis were complete assholes, but this needs no further discussion.
Interesting is how completely stupid they were. Germany was the home of the sciences and known as a country of thinkers before the nazis with their hilarious mysticism and absurd pseudoscientific ideas took over. After just twelve years of nazis in charge, it had fallen into a dark age and completely lost all ties to real world science and progress.
The nazis actually searched for obviously non-existing magical artifacts like the Holy Grail or the Holy Lance, hoping they would bring them victory.
They tried to prove weird ‘scientific ideas’ – for example they believed that all stars and planets were just floating blocks of ice. Even more absurd, in 1942 Hitler personally send out an expedition to prove that the earth was hollow and we were living on its inside. He hoped to use this ‘fact’ to spy on the british fleet at Scapa Flow by just looking up in the sky.
Nazi-“scientists” also searched for Atlantis, believing it to be the cradle of the “aryan masterrace”.
The nazis further proved their retardedness by trying to ‘germanize’ life in Germany. They made up ‘germanic’ names for the months not even the germans wanted to use – things like ‘Erntemond’ or ‘Schneemond’ (‘Moon of harvest’ and ‘moon of snow’, respectively).
Cartoonishly evil as they were, they tried to steal christmas by calling it ‘Jul’, renaming the christmas tree in ‘jul tree’, the cristmas presents in ‘jul presents’ and so on and replacing Santa Claus with Frau Holle, a character from german fairy tales who makes snow by shaking her pillows.
In short, the nazis were so completely nuts it would be comedy gold if it hadn’t been so horrible.

>>689383523
Hitler would use him because he was a fine general but would have burned his families history so word of him being a Jewish would be almost impossible to spread

I think if we had more leaders with his uncompromising attitude, phenomenal speaking abilities and dedication to his country, we'd be a lot better off. While he was far too greedy and rash when it came to war, he was a mastermind when it came to improving his country. And yes, I do think the Holocaust was unnecessary, however I am fond of some of his fascist views.

>>689383618
Sounded like you never went to a university

>>689378863
The help he was able to offer WAS killing people.

>>689383694
Hitler was not a fascist, he was a national socialist. There is a world of difference between the two.

I'm not a fan of this tendency of modern leftists to call anyone who disagrees with them a fascist. Mussolini was the only fascist in the "axis", although you could argue Tojo had fascist tendencies.

>>689383756
They could have. It would decimated British morale. Knowing the Jerrys were that close. But they chose not to out of civility.

>>689383523
Very interesting. He covered up the fact he was Jewish but also accepted him on his merits. Have to admit, that is the opposite of what we are taught Hitler would have done.

>>689384023
Where's your alma mater? I'll wait for you to google what that means. Don't overexert yourself with these illuminating and informative replies of yours.

He really ramped up the number of jews he was killing in the concentration camps closer to the end of the war when defeat was obvious

>>689384095
Dude the term "fascism" was invented because of him and Mussolini.
Hence National Socialism is pretty much the definition of fascism. Look it up faggot,.

>>689383921
It's funny how neo-Nazis use the same justifications for German invasions of European countries that the actual Nazis used 70 years ago, as if they weren't just propaganda used to get the German people geared up for war. I guess it's a testament to how skilled Nazi propagandists were that shitheads are still falling for it decades later.

>>689384139
But they bombed the shit out of London. I doubt they avoided a landmark out of respect for morale. I imagine individual buildings were pretty difficult to target back then.

>>689377785
>Honest thoughts on Hitler?

Nazi Germany was made possible by the greed of the British Empire and the revanchist French ... see "Versailles Diktat" (as opposed to the 'Versailles Treaty').

>>689382575
>The land taken from Poland was once German land

Which they took from Poland earlier. I love how neo-nazis always act like Germany was victimized by losing Danzig and parts of Pomerania. Do you even know about partitions of Poland? In fact Poles should have gotten a lot more land back after the first war than they did.

>>689377785

>'kill everyone who isn't white'

Obviously you don't history.

Killed people based on opinions
Dont think that's very smart

>>689383921
>they were bad okay, no further discussion

>After just twelve years of nazis in charge, it had fallen into a dark age and completely lost all ties to real world science and progress.

Funny, because all modern military assault rifles are based off of German designs of the STG44.

>no sources for any of these absurd claims

>Cartoonishly evil

And that doesn't strike you as odd? The fact that you have to compare it to fiction for children speaks volumes about the veracity of their "evil".