Australia, far smaller population without an established 'freedom' gun culture.

Not really the same thing is it?

Do you think it makes a difference that Americans most Americans love guns have a history with guns regularly go to war had a bloodily revolution and civil war manufactures and sells a lot of guns?
Why do people keep thinking that laws are just interchangeable between countries?

>>689341072
We have gun culture, it's just not fucking retarded. Faggot.

>>689340907
Yeah but also consider that Australia isn't chock full of niggers and spics and Muslims.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

>>689341197
can't say the same about you

>>689341205
Muslims are 30% of our pop. try again.

>>689341347
That is a bullshit fact you fucking sped

>>689341347
Try again 2.2% at last census

>>689340907
Australians are a bunch of faggots, how can you even compare yourselves to America?
Your country is insignificant, your economy is dependent on China and Indonesia, honestly go fuck yourself.

>>689340907
>oppressive
>repressive
STUPID TWAT

>>689341525
>your economy is dependent on China
>Made in China
Name 1 country that isnt.

>>689341291
So I'm retarded because I understand that through our laws, Aussies are able to enjoy recreational shooting without the bloodthirsty attempts to slaughter others. And that America is filled with stupid rednecks living in their mums basements ready to pop a cap in anybody, which is easily achievable due to the ridiculous lack of law. AND then, America does the whole "We have experienced another tragic shooting. We never expected that a man would do such a thing. Please feel sympathy for us, world." Because America is filled with so many dumb shits, that common sense apparently doesn't make it's way into government very often.

>>689341525
Wait, how many trillions does USA owe China again?

>>689341712
/thread

>>689340907
My country hasn't had a mass shooting since 1990 and I own 7 guns. All unregistered

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>>689340907

Swissfag here, it just means you're too retarded to have guns you twat

>>689341525
Because we aren't falling to pieces as a country and are able to hold for ourselves without breaking into mass shootings and civil war to solve our problems. We aren't an interesting country, history-wise. But that's because we aren't hillbilly neckbeards. We can compare to America because at least we have a crackdown on madmen, a half decent medicare system and the ability to stop dumb fucking shit from happening in our country. Unlike America, who might be able to terrify everybody else with their military, but spend all of their time shitting all over themselves.

>>689341887
Or maybe you people are too retarded to know how to pull the trigger.

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>>689342194

keep being jelly you fucking faggot, i can't hear you i'm having too much fun at the shooting range

>>689341712
And your point is? Who's going to be the one to take a bone away from a pittbull? Shut the fuck up.

>>689341525
Yeah, why would you compare a country with a continent.
Fucking faggets learn some geography.

>>689342479
Just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. If you don't think being a dumb cunt is an issue. that's fine by me. Just letting you know.

>>689342007
It is because switzerland does not have niggers, literally remove them from american and we become one of the best places ever

>>689342447
Maybe because the Swiss are educated people.
Unlike amerifat who only get their doxed info watching FAUX News.

>>689341712
>>689341792
Not really samefag

China owns a small portion of the US Debt, about the same amount as Japan owns. Both of those economies are dependent largely on exporting goods to the US, so it's in their best interest to keep our economy stable

If you believe China was any actual influence on the US becuae of the debt they own then you're delusional

>>689342352
Sweet man always wanted to go to switzerland. Is there any types of weapons you are not allowed to own? (SBR, fully automatic, short barrel shotguns etc.)

>>689342613
I'm not even the same guy, it would be suicide for any country to take on the USA alone. Debt isn't shit if you cant do anything to take back what's owed to you

Why does everyone need to carry a gun around if its such a low crime rate?

>>689340907
only if you add the word public, at least look at your posted picture

I hate this fucking world, too many god damn fuckers in it.
Too many thoughts and different societies all wrapped up together in this fucking place called AMERICA.
Everyone has their own god damn opinion on every god damn thing,
and you may be saying 'Well what makes you so different?'.
Because I have something only me and V have; SELF AWARENESS.
Call it exortenstiolism or whatever the fuck you want.
We know what we are to this world, and what everyone else is.
We learn more than what caused the civil war and how to simplify quadratics in school.
We've been watching you people and we know what you think and how you act.
All talk and no action.
People who are said to be brave or courageous are usually just STUPID,
then they say later that they did it on purpose cause they're brave,
when they did it on fucking accident.
God everything is so corrupt and so filled with opinions and points of view,
and peoples own little agendas and schedules.
This isn't a world any more.
It's H.O.E and no one knows it.
Self awareness is a wonderful thing.

>>689340907
Congratulations. I'd still rather live in America and take the risk than to live in your shit hole country.

>>689342800

it's just a matter of paperwork but we can own pretty much anything yeah, we have none of that "short barrel rifle" nonsense where the "armbrace" can't touch the shoulder shit

>>689342447

The U.S.A. doesn't have the kind of cultural, social and economic stability necessary to make it work. The only thing that might work out, just might, for the U.S.A. is strict gun control and a definite cut in gun production, because you know that shit will keep getting sold on the black market and you're kidding yourselves if you think the main producers will just accept going down for society's sake... Either the big ones get brought down or the shit won't improve that much.

You need both a strict control of the shit already out there as well as a fucking dam for the flood that is gun production and proliferation.

Or you can keep invading other countries, messing shit around everywhere in the world, having those silly mass shootings and whatever and pretending you're a 1st world country instead of actually being one.

>>689342819
and the USA can't for the love of god take on any country alone.
They tried with Irak and 5 minutes later they were all like "Pls England. Pls Germany. Pls France, help us."
Fortunatly, some of us told you to fuck off.

>>689342007
See here's the thing, Switzerland also makes gun education a part of public education, encourages knowledge of how to responsibly handle firearms, and has a general culture that promotes violence as a solution only in situations of dire threat. The USA by comparison has the "Stand your ground" law, a culture of fear and hatred of anybody who is even remotely different in class, race or creed, and the only public gun education comes from the NRA (which was founded by white democrats who were driving to return slavery) or private rifle clubs who are often unqualified to provide more than minimal education and cannot do so at an age where such education can reach the level of perfusion that it should have.

In short: The Swiss people are largely educated, cultured, and capable of making intelligent judgement calls on WHEN to use a gun, while the people of the USA are not.

>>689342933
If they don't get killed by guns then the fucking spiders will get em anyways

>>689342940
That is awesome, always wanted to visit. To own any automatic weapons or SBR there is tons of shit to go through here
Also, what language is the most prevalent there?

>>689341525

This.

Shit tier country trying to compare itself with the champ.

>>689340907
That's Australia. Anything that works over there won't work in the US.

Even if they banned guns outright, how in the hell do you think they're going to get the hundreds of millions of guns, both legal and illegal, off the streets?

The only thing they can do is make it harder and make the process to buy a gun more strict but even then that only accounts for buying legal guns.

Laws don't matter to people who want to commit a mass shooting. They'll get their hands on a gun, whether legally or illegally within hours at the most if they really tried.

The reason that gun control laws won't work in the US now is because they weren't implemented early enough. Putting them in place now won't do shit, the police would physically be unable to rid the entire country of guns available to the public because it's so big. Your stupid American forefathers didn't see that gun control laws should be implemented, if they were guns would be extremely hard to get ahold of by the public, and there would probably be less mass shootings. fucking muricans

>>689342042
>statistics aren't even kept
Remind me how valid your stats are?

>>689340907
î really like to move to australia. i'm a certified welder from germany, how are the odds you guys let me in?

>>689342199
So what yo are saying is that it is just That USA is full of psychopaths. That's actually a good reason to reduce the amount of weapons in circulation there.

>>689342885
I think you mean existentialism. You're not smart, quit trying to be, or was that a copypasta?

>>689343016
While I'm at it, I'm also going to point out the class division in the USA, the general civil unrest, the cross-social tension, and the general malaise and unhappiness of its people. You have an entire society of walking timebombs, and you built it yourself by creating a culture where you all hate each other.

>>689342831
Legitness

>>689342831
they don't need to carry them around, but they are alowed to. everyone is needed to own guns to make swizerland an even less atractive target vor invasion. he mountains and fortifications do the rest, invaders will have a bad time.

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>>689342447
Wow, literally give minutes on Google disproved this lol. just More right wing propaganda. You forgot to mention that those rifles are not used to every citizen, it is provided to a conscript as a part of militia training and they can decide to keep them afterwards, however, a majority do not AND it has to be converted to semi auto once it is taken for private use.

So yeah, I am OK with a well trained militia, as our Constitution says, having guns not some inbred, fat, retarded redneck with nonteaining

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>>689343104

swiss-grerman, but i live in the Romandie, the part that speak french

here is my MG-71 btw, can't bring it home tho it's army material but i'm specialist on it

>>689342986
>Fortunatly, some of us told you to fuck off.

They were fighting an enemy using guerilla tactics, no modern military can stand up to an enemy that fights unconventionally and against the "rules"

You do realize that there are Rules of Engagement, right? You can't send troops over there and blast every fucking shitskin because they're terrorists. Some are civilians, which their fighters were disguising themselves as civvies, as well as children looking up to you one minute, then the next fucking trying to shoot at you. Learn how some shit works you dumb shit, if there were no rules to follow, Iraq would have been wiped off the map in weeks.

>Fortunatly, some of us told you to fuck off.
Only because you Eurocucks just love your mussies and being terrorized

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting

does this not count? how many is a 'mass'

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>>689343203
Fucking this x1000.
They say "it's not the guns it's muh people" like it's a good thing.

They should at least have to demonstrate basic cognitive functions through a maths and english test to acquire a gun. That's not a popular opinion there, either.

Can ya guess why?

>>689343502
That's a solid firearm right there. Nice weapon. I wouldn't consider it a prime choice for home-defense, though.

>>689343502
i get that this specific mg-71 is army material, but could you buy your own if you wanted to?

All the saltiness and jealousy from the rest of the world focused on America is cute. You can try to deny it but if you weren't jealous then you would not feel the need to denigrate the US everytime something bad happens here.

It's pretty pathetic when you have to use the deaths of people to make yourself feel better about the shit country you were born in.

>oppressive
You think that not being able to carry lethal weapons is oppressive?
Mass shootings aren't a gun thing either, they're a culture thing.

>>689343516
Yeah. And ISIS would have raised much quicker.
You do realize that all the shit going on now in the middle-east is because your W.Bush wanted his petty war.

"BUT THEY HAVE WMD"
lel

> Only because you Eurocucks just love your mussies and being terrorized

ISIS Exists because you went there and fucked shit up. Irak is worse now then it ever was with Saddam.
BTW Saudia Arabia is financing terrorism, and you're not invading it. Oh but you need their oil and they're selling it so it's fine to play this game right?

Fucking retard. I like how you think you're the best country in the world but won't realise noone want to actually live in this shithole you call a country.

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>>689340907
'strayans, being smug about being mediocre since the dream-time.

>>689343453

listen up faggot, i'm here in switzerland, part of the militia, i'v got my rifle here and i can tell you that most people DO keep their rifle/pistol for officers, they're supposed to be converted to semi only but it's common practice to make a deal with the armorer and keep the burst/full

>>689343756
That why the US has the highest immigration rate in the entire world? I'm not talking about a small lead either, we have a rate several times higher than the next highest. Sorry, but America will always be better than whatever shit country you were born in.

>>689343756
>Assuming I'm American

And nice that you danced around my statement of mussies invading your cucked countries. Completely changed the subject there champ. You're fucked, and you know it. Don't even deny it.

I wait for the day you call on America to come liberate your countries from the sandniggers you so happily let invade, and they respond with a big, fat "NO"

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>>689343668
kek, I love how amerifats ACTUALLY think that they are the envy of the world. They *literally* think that.

Myself and everybody else I know, plus anybody on here who isn't some kind of nigger will all tell you the same thing; keep thinking that. It's fucking hilarious.

Only people who are actually envious and jealous of americans is brown people who live in 3rd world countries.

>>689343976
I get we have our problems and everyone hates us but why do you all keep going out of your way to discuss it when it accomplishes nothing and you have no say in our politics

>>689343668
Keep believing the pasta your teacher told you in school, fag. Nobody wants your shitty 3rd world country; end of.

>>689343663
Ofc not, you moron.

>>689341291
Weak as shit man. You were better off not saying anything instead of a snide remark letting everyone know your age.

>>689343663
since it's still in active service, and was especially built for the army, there's nowhere you could find one for sale, but you can own it's granpa the MG 42, you'll have to send an extract of your police record and ask for the full auto permit and that's it

>>689341674
/thread

>>689340907
thanks i will

I love how people from other countries who have never stepped foot in the US base what they think about the entire country on what they see on TV.

Thats not how it works.

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>>689344075
Actually, I was replying to you. So, I guess it's fair to say, you brought it up.

And your tabloid WWE-style politics do effect us, anon. Why do you think the whole world simultaneously facepalms when there is an election over there?

But seriously anon, if you were brought-up to believe the world is jealous of America, you couldn't possibly imagine how wrong that is.
I don't believe in God.
But I thank him every day for not making me American.

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>>689343976
Then why are you obsessed enough with the US to be glued to a thread about something that happened in america, to americans, like you have any stake in whats going on there.
Apparently whats happening there is more important than whatever is happening in your life right now, which is absurd when you think about it.

Not even murrican btw.

>>689343976
It's a fact though. Tell me one good thing about living outside the US.

I am also going to pre-emptively shoot down your mass shooting argument because it is irrelevant. You still have a higher chance of being hit by lightning than you do dying in a mass shooting.

I, for example, have never even heard a gun shot outside of a firing range and I live thirty minutes outside of Detroit.

It's psychology, and no amount of denial on your part will hide the obvious jealousy you feel because you are NOT American.

Oh, also, America is nowhere near the top in obesity anymore and several EU countries are damn close to us. You literally have no argument that will hold water.

>>689341525
We honestly can't compare our country with the USA bc we aren't controlled by the Jews so it isn't a fair comparison.

>>689341674
/thread

Well said

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>retarded ameritards being tards about everything

>>689344077
That why America has the highest immigration rate in the world? Don't feel bad, jealousy usually leads people to denial of facts.

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>>689340907

Why is everyone so surprised that America is a violent country? We've been violent since our inception. We are literally fucking killers. We have invented a device that will destroy you to the point that your fucking shadow is seared into the wall. We are not only violent, but we REVEL in our violence. We celebrate it. Our media is a fucking shrine to it. When we aren't at war, that violence turns on itself, and we eat our own populace alive in it. Seriously, did other countries think that we got to where we are now by being peaceful? Is there ANYTHING in America's history that says we are a non violent nation? Our national anthem is a song about seeing the flag waving during a war. We are literally split down the middle between the left and the right, but we are still violent on both sides and WE. FUCKING. LOVE. IT. So once again, why does it seem like every other country in the world is shocked when they are forced to come face to face with the simple bloodlust that runs in every American's veins? Did you not think this was coming? And it;s going to happen again. And again. And again. Because that is who we are. And I love it. Pic related.

>>689340907
Ausfag. Was arguing with stupid americans yesterday. Guns are the problem. Hillbilly fucks who loves their guns so much.

Australia never had a problem with guns u fucking fag. We had one mass shooting ffs.

>>689342933
Typed from the safety of your parents basement. You seriously think America is a better place that Australia? Clearly you haven't travelled nigger. You sound fat and stupid.

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>>689344285
>it's a fact though

Same how it's a fact that Allah is real, but only when you're a muslim. From another point of view; you can see how retarded it is. Let me tell you what's a fact: I am not from the US, but I am grateful to the universe for not making me American. There are a lot of benefits to not being american; such as

>not getting shot
>not having male genital mutilation
>not being retarded

and so on

>>689344279
I do care about the US, fag. I have family there and I also DO care about fucking mass shootings every 5 minutes. What I don't care for, is deliberate, persisting stupidity like you get in 8/10 americans.

>>689344418
You.
I like you.

>>689342447
>>689342199
>>689342042
>>689342007
>>689341887

fuck swiss! it just needs 2 nukes to wipe them forever, puny little cuntry

Am American.

Been to Europe and Australia.

Both shitholes. Quality of life is nothing compared to even lower middle class America.

>>689344370
hmm, did you miss the part about the brown people in my other post?

You're basically saying
>"America IS good! We have mexicans flooding here!"

So...Is the US not just obviously better than mexico? Is that what you've all been reduced to? How many fucking Dutch people immigrate over there? Give me a fucking break.

>>689342986
Kek. You just admitted the entire US army couldn't take on some shit skins bc their tactics were too mean.
Were the Vietnamese tactics also to meany peany for them back in 'Nam? Stupid cunt

>>689344418
WHOA MAN, careful around that edge!

>>689344798
Are you fucked in the head cunt? Get free money, practically free education, free drugs, free medical care. Melbourne is also rated as the most "live-able" city in the world. Fuck off back to america you hill billy piece of cunt

>>689341674
>>689341674
>>689341674

>>689343976
Fucking this. Their heads are so far up their asses that they can't see how the REST OF THE WORLD can't fucking stand them. It's hilarious

>>689345072
>>689345072
>>689345072
This.

>>689344688
>not being retarded

America has the same average IQ as the entire EU.

>not being shot

320 million Americans and about eleven thousand die a year due to gun violence. That's .000034%, such a high chance.

>not having male genital mutilation

Not exclusively American, and I am not circumcised. Nice try though.

>mass shooting every five minutes

Get real, niggerfaggot

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>>689344725

you ingorant little cunt, dont you know nuclear shelters were mandatory for over 30 years in the construction of new buildings? we can protect and hide over 90% of the population in underground bunkers, then wait and watch the rest of the world nuke YOUR sorry ass because you hit their wallet

>>689343972
provided the US didn't fall to the chicanos or niggers before us

>>689341347
Those muzzies are the partygoing type. :v)

>>689343918
enjoy dying from every curable disease because you can't afford medical care.

>>689343668
> Mass shooting sparks debate
> Don't be jealous!
What the fuck?

>>689344812
Oh boy, you are stupid. Immigration numbers only count legal immigration and if you want to bring up illegal immigration then I will just throw the millions upon millions of shit skins flooding into Europe as we speak. Oh yeah, good luck with that by the way. I can't wait to watch you smug cunts burn.

>>689341796
Be quiet Sven - adopt a language recognised by more than 300,000 people

>>689344816
you lost the Vietnam war bro.

>>689343640
Did you even read the post?

>>689344285
1 good thing about living outside the U.S.? I don't have to deal with the most ignorant, egotistical and obnoxious people on the planet everytime I step outside.

>>689345289
Well then, congrats on being so nice to all those millions upon millions of mexicans/

>>689344565
EXACTLY.
Fucktards who say "Durr...how many mass shootings have we had since the laws came in?"...The simple answer is to ask right back "Well how many did we have BEFORE that one, dipshit?".
The answer is none. Nothing anything like that scale.
Interestingly, the week after the Port Arthur massacre where 35 people were killed, someone blew up a bus in India, killing over fifty people. Not a fucking peep in the media.

>>689345305
>you

>>689345231
I do have free health care. It is provided by my employer free of charge, try again?

>>689344418
>Our media is a fucking shrine to it

This. America glorifies their army how they are heroes and shit - bombs the middle east - FUCK YEAH AMERICA! We killed tons of innocent people but one of them might have been a terrorist.

>Boston bombing happened and the whole U.S is crying like a bitch about it. I'm not saying it's not a tragedy but they don't have value for other people. The media plays a huge role in it too, hide all the bad stuff show all the good heroic acts.

shootings happen
>we need no gun laws, it's the mental people they would have gotten guns regardless of laws n shit

>>689343155
Lmao what is it with nanny states wanting the government to protect them.

>>689345158
Stopped reading at your first point, because...No, it isn't.

Australia is fucking retarded. A country where you have absolutely FUCK all rights to defend yourself and your home. Oh and the fucking paki cunts infest the area.

The more I read these comments, I realise how fucking dumb Americans are.. Not just stupid or ignorant.. Actually dumb! Fucking retarded. Completely void of any sort of rational thought. Murica should nuke itself

>>689344920

Not being edgy, just stating a fact. I enjoy living here. Everything America does is done with the goal of fighting. We invented sports that cause bodily harm. We have races that we watch for the wrecks. We have fights that we showcase and broadcast. Our movies glorify violence, our main religion is a warped view of christianity more focused on God throwing the sinners to hell than preaching forgiveness. Every inch of this country we took by force. Every day, hammered into us, is violence solves problems, because if you kill enough of them, they'll stop fighting. If you get hurt, you heal or you die. When you see America through that lens, mass shootings aren't very shocking. And these are just the ones that get reported.

>>689345072
Inside their club, it's cool to be in their club.

Have a nice day not getting shot, anon!

>>689345345
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA You have some balls calling Americans that while judging over 320 million people you don't even know. Ever heard of a hypocrite? Well you are one.

fucking amerifats just need to admit the guns are the problem. Stupid cunts still are like oh no thats my hobby im responsible don't take my guns away.


Don't take my slaves! I'm responsible with my slaves, not like donny who fucked up. I keep my slaves safe and locked up. I didn't do anything wrong don't take my slaves away

>>689344798
Kek. You tried way too hard. Shitty B8.

Sorry to fuck up your little discussion but can someone explain the whole #PrayForOrlando thing?

If God was real and prayer actually worked, why would shit like this happen?

>>689341072
You serious man? I country built on convicts didnt have any form of gun culture? even tho they lived and where brought up in the same age and time as you americans who really love there guns. Theres alot more to what op is saying but god damn. l2worldview.

>>689345445
You don't need a gun to defend yourself if the criminal doesn't have a gun.. Dickhead

>>689341197
Nah, as an Aussie I agree with him. The US has 'civilians shooting at each other' ingrained into its roots, and they played a much bigger part in their history. Of course they're still going to be obsessed with them nowadays, and trying even to just restrict them is going to be hard.

>>689345388
You get the idea. You medical care is fucking shit, your rich people pay about 0% taxes, your education system fails so much your student are in debt everytime they get out of school etc etc, your country is a shit hole.
Enjoy your freedom

And for the subject of the thread
I wish US fags could just admit they love guns instead of failing at justfying it

>>689345416
>No, it isn't.

Of course you stopped reading, you're in denial. Prove me wrong then, without personal anecdotes.

>>689345460

Violent culture is normal as fuck but to show a women's nipple on public TV HOLY FUCK.

Stupid americafags keep killing each other it would make the world better

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Childers Palace Fire - In June 2000, drifter and con-artist Robert Long started a fire at the Childers Palace backpackers hostel that killed 15 people.

Sef Gonzales - On July 10, 2001, Sef Gonzales bludgeoned to death his sister, mother and father with a baseball bat.

Monash University shooting - In October 2002, Huan Yun Xiang, a student, shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five.
Churchill Fire - 10 confirmed deaths due to a deliberately lit fire. The fire was lit on 7 February 2009.

Lin family murders - On July 2009, Lian Bin "Robert" Xie killed his sister, her husband and three members of their family (5 persons from the Lin family) with a hammer. The faces of the victims were so disfigured that forensics had to be used to identify them. The motivation for the family massacre were partly because Lin had criticised Xie for not having a job.

2011 Hectorville siege - A mass shooting that took place on Friday, April 29, 2011, in Hectorville, South Australia. It began after a 39-year-old male, Donato Anthony Corbo, went on a shooting rampage, killing three people and wounding a child and two police officers, before being arrested by Special Operations police after an eight-hour siege.

Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire - 10 confirmed and as many as 21 people may have died as a result of a deliberately lit fire in a Quakers Hill nursing home. The fire was lit early on 18 November 2011.

Hunt family murders - Geoff Hunt killed his wife and three children before turning the gun on himself on September 9, 2014.

Cairns stabbings - A woman stabbed 8 children to death on Friday, 2014, December 19, 2014. 7 of them were her own.

Sydney Hostage Crisis- December 2014- Gunman kills three people and injures six others

That's 75 deaths from mass murders since 1996. In the twenty years up to the end of 1996, including Port Arthur's 35 deaths, 82 people were killed in mass murders in Australia.

>>689345305
>>689344816
Again, any civilized country has rules of engagement. If they were ignored, they'd have been carpet bombed to oblivion.

But, you know, killing PoW's, allied forces, civvies, etc is generally frowned upon. It's kinda like keeping an aggressive dog on a leash, until you know that nigger is robbing your shit, so then you let it go.

Fuck, you people are retarded. And America only pulled out of Vietnam because of liberal cucks firing up a shitstorm like you always do.

>>689345305
Huh? I think you missed my point to the American faggot.

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>>689345710
That screenshot in the graph comes directly from the AIC. So does this one.

>>689345713
Oh you mean the same way you treated the Iraki that gave you info? Which is basically let them rot in there to be killed because they were US-intel ?
Cause you do know that you left them there to die right? What a nice play by the book there.

>>689345575
Yeah and when 10 fucking sudos rush your house and rape your mrs, GOOD LUCK FAGGOT.

>>689344418
Fuck yeah manifest destiny. Get cucked eurotrash. I mean this unironically.

>>689345602
We do love guns, well, most of us. What I don't understand is why anyone outside of the US gives a shit about it? Especially since you all seem to hate us, what is a few dead Americans? It's either jealousy for the freedom we do have, because we're not pussies; or you people are just so unhappy that you need something to complain about.

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>>689345811
And this one. All things being equal, criminal's and mass murders will substitute for other lethal objects.

>>689345445
Wat m8? You have every right to defend yourself, your family and your home in Australia. You have zero knowledge of the shit you spew. Stop firing wildly from the hip and try to take a better pot shot.

Why is no one talking about
the elephant in the room.

A Muslim has high score.

>>689345700

If you want to talk about America's warped value system, we can, but my main point is America is Violent. All you posters in other countries have at least a general knowledge of American history, so you KNOW that America is a violent place, inhabited by violent people. Why the HELL are any of you legitimately shocked when something like this happens in our country? Did you think we had evolved past it? Did you think it didn't exist? I am genuinely curious, so open question to everyone not American: Did you know we were a violent country? And if so, why does the shooting in Orlando surprise you?

>>689345872
Australia started the thread, i just came here to troll basically.

But your people also troll, what's up with this "If they had been armed they'd have been able to defend themselves"

Your whole country shootings proves that statement is non-sense. Some fags were armed in Aurora shooting and they got shot aswell as the rest of the non-armed fags

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>>689345888
Pretty well within the normal range, on par with the decrease the rest of the western world has seen over the same time period, and not the sharp downturn we should expect.

>>689344958
Lol, of course you get everything for free if your parents still support you.
Meanwhile back in the real world, my taxes contrubte to pay for all the free shit, Australia is the highest taxed country in the oecd. Our mining boom is over, we have a property bubble that will explode, our dollar is predicted to drop to 40cents. Our politicians are all leftist liberal apologists, we have a national debt that we have no means of paying.
I could go on but it feels kind of pointless

>>689345958
>>689345958
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511917/Father-Ben-Batterham-charged-murder-catching-man-looking-baby-daughter-s-bedroom-fight-broke-burglar-died-tried-make-citizen-s-arrest.html
You are a fuckhead, mate.

>>689345519
You asked. I told. Sorry if you can't deal with how the world perceives you and your countrymen. Youll get over it.

>>689345836
That's CIA, not the US military

Completely different monkey

>>689345410
>nanny states wanting the government to protect them.

They think it works because they didn't have serious domestic problems in the first place, being tiny homogeneous countries that only have to worry about other countries.
We have the whole world in the US, they can't wrapped their minds around that.
Let immigrants from shitholes who hate them flood into them for long enough and maybe they start seeing things outside of their own little world asses.
They are no different form the yuppy kids from rich white neighborhoods who think everything is like where they live and what's working in their sleepy little New England village is going to work everywhere.

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Stay jelly.

>>689346019
The dude that perpetrated the most recent shooting was a muslim, a muslim who professed his allegiance to ISIS when he spoke to police dispatchers.

>>689341938
America, get fucking toasted

>>689345839
Yeah cos that actually happens.. Fuck off.

>>689346221
Fuck off kiddo, You're 16. Go to bed.

>>689346115
Thats a great analogy.

>>689345710
75 deaths from a dozen 'mass killings' in 20 years? You niggers notched 2/3 that number before the sun came up this morning.....

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Stay jelly euro fags

>>689345178
they actually have shelters for more than 100% of their population

>>689346098
I really don't care how the world perceives us. I was simple calling out your hypocrisy when you tried to call ALL Americans the most arrogant, egotistical, and obnoxious people on the planet.

You met everyone on the planet? Nope.
You been to every country on the planet? I would bet you haven't.
You ever met a typical American family? Doubt it.

Stop forming your biased opinion on Americans from the media and whatever shit-birds you meet in your online video games.

Oh, and congratulations on being an ignorant egotistical prick.

>>689346084
He just got bail and once in front of a jury will no doubt get off.
Plenty of people have killed intruders inside there homes and got away with it. The sticking point with this case is the guy was killed hundreds of metres from the house.

>>689345602
As an American I fucking hate guns. But we are to far in the shit hole to not have them.

>>689346640
tbh you do the same. Most of the US population genuinely think your country is the best of the world.
Sure it might be the best on some aspect. But shitty on others. Most likely like every other country.

>>689346284
Get rekt call other person 16 to make yourself feel better.. You are exactly the twat that makes me think Americans are fucking dumb.. I'm 21

>>689346115
Lol both Australia and the UK have a much higher percentage of Muslims then the US.

>>689346424
Australia has a fraction of the population of the United States, a fraction of the number of cities with 200,000 people or more(where most crime takes place), they have the highest average per capita income in the world, universal healthcare, affordable college, better social safety nets, etc... All of which decrease the kind of desperate mentally ill individuals from pursuing these kinds of massacres.

Yes, the United States has more deaths from mass killings than Australia. Just like we have more deaths from medical errors. Your analysis of the problem should not stop here.

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Brofist to you glocknade friend. Freedom tastes so good doesn't it?

>>689343016
This. But you Swiss are still glorified Jews.

>>689346730
Police found Mr Slater, who was reportedly charged with a string of break and enter offences in 2012, unconscious in Mr Batterham's home with a suspected broken neck.

Nope.

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Because Gun laws stopped shootings right? Right?

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>>689341509
and Muslims make up 1% of America's population, Australia's population has a higher percentage of Muslim's.

You're not a real man unless you've shot a gun. Sorry Euro fags.

>>689346084
1 fucking case where he chased the guy 400m down the road and beat the fuck out of him then broke his neck? That's the best you have? 1 news article? The LAW states you can use necessary and reasonable force to protect yourself and your family. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

>>689346862
You're 21 and you still don't believe that shit happens? You are fucking retarded. It's happened twice in my area the past WEEK, And i'm Aussie. Faggot.

>>689347017
Jelly of what?

>>689346774
I guess so yeah

>>689347130
You may use equal force, Fuck that, if someone intrudes you should be allowed to shoot them. Fuckwit.

>>689346099
The rest of the world hates you regardless of which monkey is throwing shit at the zoo.

>>689346165

And so were the San Bernardino shooters, and the one before that was white, and the one before that was white too. Heritage and background notwithstanding, America is a breeding ground for violent behavior. We encourage it. Everyone who lives here knows it. Some of us accept it and live with it, some of us decry it and claim we need to be more peaceful, and some of us leave. It hasn't changed for almost 250 years.

>>689346978
No idea where you got that. All articles I can find from major news sources state he was found upto 400m away.

>>689340907
what is your population and population density in austrailia?

yeah, thats what I thought.

>>689347276
It's on that article.

>>689347276
Also his criminal offences, kek. He shouldn't be allowed out in the first place. A man going through all this bullshit because this criminal scum decided to enter his home.

>>689341887
>>689342007
>requires citizens to own guns
>1 in 2 citizen has guns
>gun fags can't even get their memes straight

>>689347302
A UK source. Try again.

Really curious here. What does a Euro or Aussie fag do if someone breaks in and they happen to have a gun. Do you just take it and hope they let you live?

>>689347405
I'm good, Dude got charged with murder, what a fucking joke.

>>689341347
Honduras is a third world country filled with niggers. You can't compare savages with civilized countries.

>>689347135
Go buy a lever action shotgun.. You're allowed those.. Also I don't believe that actually happened unless you've given them a reason to run into your home

>>689347378
I agree, the fuckwit deserved everything he got. I also agree Ben shouldn't have to go through what he is. But I'm sure he will get off, probably get compensation and probably sell his story.

>>689347534
You are fucking stupid sir.

>>689341887
Honduras is a 3rd world country filled with niggers. You can't compare savages with civilization. Get your facts straight. It has nothing to do with guns laws.

>>689347428
We sick our trained attack kangaroos on them.
If we feel really nasty, we wheel out the Emu's...

>>689343613
I think it might be 3 killed or 4 killed to be 'mass'

>>689346640
You think I'm the only person who feels this way? Have you read the fucking thread? We all hate you. You're shit tier humans. Ive travelled the world and the only people possibly worse than you guys are the French. I've been to your shitty country 3 times and have seen enough to know it's not a fluke we all can't stand you.

>>689347428
It very rarely happens. And yes usually the tiny percentage of times it happens the home owners survive.
Most of our gun crime is gang vs gang and rarely hurts people not involved.

>>689347428
>>689347428

Robbers dont tend to usually attack in aus as they are uneducated dumb crackheads, you let them rob you then get all new stuff back on insurance. No one dies and you get a new TV

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kek at all these amerifags posting their guns and saying people are jealous.

> so jealous of your school shootings and other mass shootings that occur.

But hey you get to have a gun to shoot at cans and show off on 4chan right?

>>689347720
So you basically just hope for the best and leave your life in another's hands?

Makes no sense to me.

>>689347428
you kick the shit out of them because you're not a piss weak little bitch. we start smoking at 8 years old and drinking at 10. when you're hard as fuck you dont need a gun.

>>689347658
I mean, that's fine. say you hate us. It's quite funny though when you all seem to care so much when Americans die. You hate the French too eh? I bet you have a small penis, you hate a lot. You also haven't "traveled the world," stop lying, faggot.

>>689347725
So basically you're just hoping it doesn't happen to you and if it does you hope they let you live?

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>>689347725
Ring a ding ding, we have a winner!

>>689346640
yeah m80 americans are generally douchebags.

>>689347579
And if we bring back guns, what's stopping them from bring guns to your house? Anyway I'm done there's no convincing retards..

>>689346876
Since we are in a gun thread and your bringing up a total of 75 deaths in 20yrs from mentally I'll Australians not using GUNS I'll point out more than 75 people would have been killed from gun violence in the US since this thread started.

>>689347974
That's cool little man.

>>689343016
Our culture is violent, our adolescent culture is hostile, and there's massive racial/religious/gender tension for literally no fucking reason. It breeds hateful people; no amount of gun control or laws will impact mass shootings, especially with our open borders and the amount of ignorant rednecks, niggers, spics, muslims, etc. that won't fucking get along.

Fuck, I should just emigrate.

>>689348082
ok kiddo, stay mad.

>>689347871
Yes 10/10

>>689348172
Okay little man, keep projecting.

>>689347725
raped in a home invasion

Would you rather deal with the occasional mass shooting or the government able to easily overthrow it's defenseless people? I'll take my chances with mass shootings

>>689347871
Smoking and drinking doesn't make you hard, it just means you're a conformist bitch or you're too weak to quit.

>>689348241
it doesnt matter how much you try and belittle me, daddy isnt coming home anytime soon kiddo.

>>689340907
Monash University, Hunt Family murders, Logan family murders, Hectorville - that's not all, but those are the ones I know about that all fit the FBI criteria of mass murder where a gun was used and all were after Port Arthur .
GG, faggot.

>>689347851
Why do we need guns to stop criminals without guns? We just beat them up.

And looking at the US guns don't help much anyway. You have 10's of thousands of robberies a year and very few instances (by comparison) of those being robbed fighting them off with there guns.

Same as all your major shooting events. The vast majority are stopped by police because even with your guns Americans are clearly to big a pussies to use them. Unless killing unarmed people ofcourse.

>>689348310
says the little bitch who can't hold his booze. get on my level lightweight.

>>689347942
Yes. I don't need to hope though because i know it won't happen.

>>689348294
No 1st world country(ESPECIALLY a capitalist one) is going to "overthrow" the people, because it's not profitable to cause a revolution. It's all just a redneck fantasy.

>>689341525
I am Australian. And I can not agree more with this statement. It's a country of CUCKS and impotent men.
I would HAPPILY trade a few schools getting shot up every year if it meant that I could own guns to protect myself and my family from the oppressive government and all the fucking dirty skinned ethinics that australia thinks it's okay to keep letting in.

FUCK I CANT EVEN LEGALLY CARRY A FUCKING KNIFE in this shit hole country any more. I have never wanted to shoot up a country more than Australia.

>>689348363
No shit, that guy has been dead for some time now, nice try though, little man.

>>689348443
That comment was coming from a drinker. I'm a conformist bitch. :^)

>>689347199
You can use reasonable force nigger. If that means killing them with a bat/knife or hands in order to protect them then you can! You also have to have a jury find you guilty of it. You'll walk if you're in the right. Yes you SHOULD be able to shoot them but you're arguement was that Australians aren't allowed to protect themselves. We are....

>>689348055
I bring up non-gun deaths to illustrate the point that Australia's 1996 gun control measure has not altered the amount of people killed by mass murders. They were simply killed by other means. They have less mass SHOOTINGS now, yes. But not less deaths from mass murders. Just like if we banned antibiotics there would be less deaths from antibiotics. Correlation is not causation. Ignoring substitution of the means of lethality is to be disingenuous.

Gun violence in general is a different subject.

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>>689347068
Yes, but they don't have more sand niggers over all.
Australia's Population: 23.13 million
2.2 % = 508860
Americas Population: 318.9 million
1% = 3189000
There are 2680140 more Muslims in America than in Australia, Try again Faggot.

>>689348544
well, that must be why you're trying to suck the approval from my balls... here kiddo, let me touch you the way daddy used to... i'll be nice to you

>>689348636
Never heard of ratios eh? It was a valiant effort though.

>>689348474

pic outside your window + vocaroo

>>689348474
Lol so in other words your a pussy? Talking all that shit but doing nothing about it.
It's not hard to get guns in Australia if you weren't just a little fag talking shit on the net you could easily cause some major damage.

>>689344418
I have never wanted to be a citizen of your country more anon. [legitimate tear in corner of eye].

I also want to violently kill ever euro-cuck that isn't as violently predisposed as I know I am at my core. The only thing that stops me jumping on a plane today is that your government is about to go all German concentration camp on all of you, and it's almost better to live in my shit hole country without guns, because big brother runs your life over there at the moment. USA 100 years ago, no problem, today.... well y'all fucked.

Except texas maybe.

>>689348726
Ooooo baby, come here, I can't wait.

>>689348471
>when sheep get on /b/
>hurr durr there will never be another revolution or uprising
History always repeats itself faggot

>>689348887
You watch too much Alex Jones.

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>>689344366
Jelly EuroFag. Its called freedom, something you don't have in a socialist shithole.

>>689347207
Ding ding ding. You lost the argument!

>>689347963
cowbell thread?

>>689347904
I don't give 2 shits Americans died. The thread is about your shitty gun laws and how ignorantly you defend them. Again, you started by asking a question and can't handle the answer. You're showing your age by making dick jokes and hoping im lying about my experiences bc you most likely haven't left your home state yet. I'm done here, go around in circles with someone else.

>>689348260
I'm not that good looking.

>>689349343
Aww you're done here? Can't handle it eh, too sensitive?

If you didn't care about Americans dying then you wouldn't care that we have guns that are used to kill Americans, unless you are jealous that we have guns or you hate seeing Americans die; or perhaps you are just an unhappy little man with a very undersized penis.

What I've gathered is that Aussie and Euro fags have brainwashed themselves into thinking they won't ever get robbed/raped/whatever at gunpoint because it "rarely happens."

mention how this so called "freedom" makes you better?

Please also define what this "freedom" allows you to do, other than carrying guns around and shooting innocent people of course.

>>689343114
anyone who refers to their country as "the champ" is a fucking mong

>>689349532
Or he just can't understand why Americans are so stupid.

>>689340907
wow, aussies being insensitive cunts
what a fucking surprise

>>689341205
Not all mass shooting were from mudslimes, how many white kids shot up schools in the US, compared to sandniggers?

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>>689342724
The EU matters more to China than the US of gAy.

>>689349626
How is it brainwashed when it's backed up by facts?
The facts also are despite Americans having guns they still have just as many, or even more in most cases, robberies and rapes then other western countries.

>>689349626
Yes, because it happens to almost nobody.

"Rarely" means "it most likely will not ever happen to you. You will probably never have a gun pointed at you."

>>689349804
You're being insensitive cunts when you stand by gun rights when people are getting brutally killed every other day in your shit country.

Why are you so mad, America? Did Blue Cross reject your last healthcare claim?

>>689349718
It's typically the stupid ones who piss and spit about how stupid everyone else it, meanwhile they piss the bed at night well into their thirties.

I still fail to understand why anyone outside of the US cares that we have guns simply because some Americans are killed by them. Who the fuck cares, right? You all talk about how much you hate us, so what do you care?

Again, you only care either because you are jealous that we are allowed to have guns, you secretly care about Americans, or you have such a shitty life that you must spend your free time complaining about how some people you hate live their lives. I pity you all.

>>689342613
This x 10000

literally noone is jealous of america. like yeah bro i wish i lived in a place where i cant even leave the house without fear of getting shot in the fucking head by some spastic

>>689341197
this actually. Americans have a huge domination/hero complex going on that translates to shooting each other all the time.

>>689350061
Nobody says we don't care about you. In fact, we are really sad for people who have to be the victims of your stubbornness.