>>689288671

>Muslim terrorist illegally enters a gun-free zone and illegally shoots faggots
>"We need to remove assault weapons from all law-abiding citizens"

Fuck the president

>>689288671
agreed

>>689288671

you mean the right one trying to hide his kek face ?

>>689288823

With legally purchased weapons.

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>>689288671

Not angry enough to actually mention Islam as a motivation.

Face it that Uncle Tom is fake as fuck.

>>689289096

And the boston marathon bombers killed people with a legally purchased pressure cooker. What's your point faggot?

>>689288671
even ole Abe is angry.

>>689288823
agreed

>>689289096
How does this negate the other two?

>>689288671
"i'm so proud that he had an an angry look on his face"

jesus, american standards went down the fucking shit hole.

>>689288671
And he stood his ground and never mentioned the word Islam because he knows that is a religion of peace and no Muslim would ever commit such a terrible act of terror. They are basically Amish.

>>689289433
Just proves that giving guns to citizens isn't a good idea.

Please. He's angry for three reasons.

1. He's a major LGBT and muslim sympathizer and this incident shits all over everything he's worked for for the last 8 years.

2. It just further highlights his failure to enact gun control.

3. It pretty much secured Trump's nomination as the next prez.

>>689288671
You better check yourself before you do to youself what President Obama did to the economy, national security, world stability, and race relations.

After the last seven years I'm starting to think that having a weak and ineffective president with a corrupt administration makes things worse instead of better.

guns go bye bye

>>689288671
I wish you were one of the 50 fags killed earlier

>>689289096
They want you to believe that because they want to take your fucking weapons from you. When the weapons are gone, then the slaughter fest will really begin. Even the slaves dont even know they're slaves yet thats how you know they're truly worthless cunts.

>fails to address the Muslim issue
>good

Pick one

>>689289746

I prefer having a serious, sincere president than george shithead, his cousin or trump

>>689289213

My point is LEGALLY PURCHASED FIREARMS DESIGNED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE, WERE USED TO (here's the kicker) KILL PEOPLE.

Anything else too cloudy?

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>>689289782

I don't understand, do you mean that the isis terrorist and the governement are working together to
> confiscate any weapon in the country
> kill everyone in the country

Tell me more wise friend

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And race? Oh just wait this will turn into a racial deal too because that fucking retarded piece of shit we call our president makes a HUGE deal out of nothing. Kid shoots up a church? CONFEDERATE FLAG MUST BE PUT AWAY. Kid goes on killing spree with a sword? OHP BETTER BAN STAR WARS

>>689288671
He looks like someone told him he can't have any more fried chicken.

>>689288671

He's mad because he realized that a bunch of people just saved a ton on their life expectancy by switching to Trump.

Seriously, when the news broke that someone shot up a gay bar, Liberals all across America had their fingers crossed and were chanting, "Please be white and Christian...Please be white and Christian..."

Then he turned out to be brown and Muslim and they all put on their mental gymnastics outfits and starting the arduous task of shifting the blame to the NRA. But even they don't believe their bullshit this time around.

>>689290095
Therefore we need to ban all guns and pressure cookers.

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>>689288671
He incited this act of terror though

>>689290095

You do know that Muslims know how to make explosives, right? They're pretty fucking good at it too.

Banning guns wasn't stopping this religious extremist from killing a bunch of people. At best it would just change his method.

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no more pew pew for the amerifag, you will only die of burgers
> holy kek

>>689290470

How many pressure cookers did the US army need to invade iraq?

>>689289096
No, they weren't legally purchased at all...

>>689290577
He has pushed terrorism to a whole new level of a point where there are breakouts all over the world because muslims are being treated like shit so they feel the need to realiate. We either need to get them the fuck out as terrible is that is or america will end up like france/britain covered in nasty sand niggers who riot in the streets and chase off the police in massive droves.They act normal in society and then next thing you know an underground revolt has started. Shits intense

>>689290095
That's funny- my "assault weapons" (I currently own 6 of them) has never killed anyone when I've used them.
I am fairly certain they haven't knocked up the neighbor's teenage daughter either, or ripped the tags off beds illegally too.
It's almost like they don't do anything without the user deciding how they are going to be used.
What a fucking weird idea, huh?!

>>689289096
Can you prove that or is your last name Clinton?

>>689289922
I recommend watching the episode of Vice on drone strikes helping terrorist recruiting. Obama has spent eight years on the gold course and his Middle East strategy has made things a lot worse. Our Middle East policy has been bad for awhile, and the European colonial policies started the bad policies. But targeting civilians with drone strikes is like pouring gasoline on a fire.

Trump is a terrible choice for president, but Obama made him look presidential. Obama failed to mention radical islam, and instead called for restricting second amendment rights. My understanding is lgbqt groups are endorsing Trump now. Hillary has disenfranchised millenials and progressives by rigging the primary against Bernie, and Obama is driving anyone with an iq over 90 to Trump.

>>689289196
agreed

>>689290788
So ? You're just turning away the evidence. What people mean is :

> We can't control every person with a gun
> letting everyone have a gun is the most dangerous thing we could thing of
> Let's ban guns like EVERY other civilized country did

>>689290095
False, some guns were designed for target shooting such as the .22. And the 5.56 round when created by Eugene Stoner was never meant to kill only wound so you take 3 men out of the fight. The injured and the two men to take him out of the fight

>>689291085
Bitch please you wish you could suck your own dick.

>>689291139
Worked out great for France, right?

>>689290906
Well said. And when the shit hits the fan, what side do you think those billions of "moderate" Muslims will be on?

>>689291139
>Taking guns away from law abiding citizens
>only people who do not abide by laws have guns
>implying this is the most safe way to control Islamic extremism.

>>689289213
So ban assault pressure cookers?
Getting pot roast isn't worth the lives, I'm sure you'll give it up too.

>>689291139
And false, lets look at Switzerland, a civilized county, has very few gun laws and very little violent crime. Now lets look at France, very heavy gun laws yet there was a terror attack that left 130 dead and firearms were used there. Gun laws don't work

great day for us conservatives :) :) :) 50 AIDS monkeys dead and it was all done by a muslim terrorist. the left is so so so fucking ANTI-AMERICAN its not even FUNNY. they KNOW that moselems are the problem because its MOSELEMS who kill us... you dont see anyboody else doing those acts. praying every day that TRUMP wins this whole election and shillary ends up in prison where her ass belongs and bernie... well... god will take care of that old fag loving piece of commie shit. our man TRUMP is gonna win, just give the fuck up. and hopefully that stupid fag loving pope goes with obummer out the door.

BTW........ there was a time ( believe it or not) when gays were called out and exiled for being the sin loving pieces of garbage they are. that time is coming back

>>689291085
Kek

>>689291078

Nice analysis, sadly you fail to see that Trump is everything but a solution, the guy is cliché, he doesn't understand jackshit to politics, he's only appreciated because he's saying stuff that a lot of people say in the country, he's the edgy hero people were waiting for. If he does get elected, this will only get worse, having trump as a president is like having that stupid drunk dude in bar that always say cuck stuff as president.

>>689291139
We apparently can't control everyone with a car.

Therefor letting everyone have a car is the most dangerous thing we could do.

Let's ban cars like EVERY other civilized country did.

See how fucking stupid you sound?

Operation #rainbowlivesmatter
>spray rainbow dicks on mosques in support of this attack by the islamic religion on the lgbt community
>sodomize islamic men take photos and spread their pictures on social media that they are gay
Islam has hid behind its lies for far too long, its time the world took a stand against this evil cult of death and hatred #YESALLMUSLUMS
If its holy war they crave perhaps the other side should start fighting back
#EndIslamNow

>>689288671
but it's black

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We've never needed Donald J Trump more than we do right now. I assure you this never would've happened if he was running our country.

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>>689288671
>Orlando shootings is something to admire and respect
agreed

>>689291559
Who fucking knows, all I know is shits hitting the fan and theres either gonna be a civil war or a world war, either one in the near future. I dont like this at all

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>>689288671
The difference between you and me. I lold hard

>>689288671
>Pic related: it's the greatest president of the United States To have ever existed.

Total fucking lemon. Bush 43 1/2.

>>689288671
Fuckin nig nog has screwed us over so hard.

>>689291559
I don't know, let's look at countries where Islam is the rule of law.

How are gays treated in those countries? Well, since Islam is a religion of peace I assume they are treated peacefully, right.

Oops, they kill them. Well there goes that narrative.

Do you accept mass shootings as a necessary evil associated with maintaining current legislation regarding the purchase and ownership of guns?

>>689292047
right, because Trump, is totally gonna prevent muslims from hating America

Why are assault rifles legal for civilians to own?

>>689288671
you mean you are proud of the president that won't say the attack was a muslim terrorist attack, and instead is trying to say guns are the problem?

>>689291442
If it wasn't for that, the bombing and shooting would be a lot easier.

>>689291562
I don't much about the shooting, was the dude a citizen of the country ? I guess so. The weapons he bought were legally obtained, right ? So... ? What did you learn today ?

>>689291774
Cars and guns, that's totally the same thing. RIGHT. EVERYONE HAS CANCER, LET'S BAN CANCER RIGHT
> that's how stupid you sound

>>689292343
The nigger didn't say that

>>689290095

box cutters and passenger jets aren't designed to kill people, but that didn't stop 9/11.

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so you are proud of being an american hating muslim apologist faggot OP?

>>689292183
If the populace has guns, nobody accept the police and government will. THEY STARTED THIS. Do you want them to be the only ones with weapons, friend? That doesnt make sense. Why dont you want to protect yourself why are you putting your life in other peoples hands when you can garuntee something on your own. Why are you a sheep?

>>689288671
>muslim terrorist murders pepole: pledges himself to isis
>claims it's just a hate crime and religion has nothing to do with it.
>claims gun control is needed
>everyone was unarmed

Man, what a good president...

Anyway, 8/8 fell fo da bait

>>689288671
OP I agreed with you 100%. I also think this man has done such a fine job in office, that I wish he could just stay on and continue presidency until he dies. I have so much respect and admiration for this man. Our first black president. Our best president.

>>689291562
USE your guns and KILL MUSLIMS, do not wait for them to do these things to you, they are a scourge on this world, instead of arguing/defending gun rights actually use them as something else other and a dick extension, YOU have NO FREEDOMS when this mudslime scum is in your country getting away with these things while YOU sit at home saying "well its not in my backyard im safe here with my guns that i have no intention on using, gee golly im glad i have these rights"

>>689292343
Guns are the problem you fucking degenerate nigger.

SAY IT.
SAY IT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.

"RADICAL ISLAM"

FUCKING SAY IT.

>>689289782
hahhahahahahahahahhhhhhahaaahaahah

>>689292183
No, but they are inevitable while maintaining current legislation regarding immigration and with the current government's fear of offending radical Islam.

>>689292513
Why are you attacking me friendo? You didn't answer my question.

>>689292568
I'm sure Obama was thinking about you when he said no more gun

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>>689288671

>Yfw he's angry at guns and not terrorists

>>689292656
So niggers and mudslimes aren't violent at all.
Go call one a nigger to their face.
Be sure to record and upload it for us.

>>689292278
Nothing is going to prevent them from hating America. Our very way of life offends their religious beliefs.

He can do a much better job of defending us from their hostility than Hillary can though.

>>689288671
Obvious troll is obvious...

>>689292473
yes he did faggot, he gave a speech to america a few hours ago blaming guns and saying america has a choice to make in how it makes gun laws. and literally stated "the motive for the attack is unclear"

after we already know
1. shooter called 911 at start of attack and pledged allegiance to ISIS
2. shooter shouted allah akbar while gunning people down in gay club
3. shooter was devout muslim, son of afghan parents, whose father is a taliban supporter
4. shooter was already previously investigated by FBI multiple times for making terroristic comments at his work
5. shooters social media is full of ISIS support, anti semitic comments, and general mudslime garbage

I fuckin love Obama
I wish he could have like 10 more terms

>Bernie is only savior
>Clinton and Trump will ruin everything

>>689290095
Banning guns would not have stopped him or his desire to indiscriminately kill faggots. He would have found another way via IEDs.

You're on the wrong side of history here.

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>>689290577
That's sooper pritty though

>>689291078
And that's a good thing.

Unstable middle East keeps the petro dollar in place and keeps monetary strength. You sad fucks have no idea how the world works

>>689292278
no, but he can AND WILL carpet bomb every fucking one of them. fucK them fuck their families and fuck their children. filthy sandmonkeys one and all. nuke the middle east and you will have no more issues here guaranteed

>>689292656
no you retard

>>689293179
everyone is a walter white when they don't have anymore guns, so let's not ban them, right.

>>689292828
this

the last thing on his mind is terrorism

>>689293179
or, he would have just bought a gun anyway, the same way people buy meth and crack and 'hot' guns right now

>>689291745
Trump outlined what his immigration policy would be, and it's not any good. He's not a good choice, but is less bad than Hillary. Bernie provided a chance to vote for an actual progressive, but Hillary and the DNC made sure Hillary got more delegates (think Wisconsin).

DNC supporters/donors make money off of the bad policies of Obama and the Clintons. Bill was behind privatizing prisons, and blacks get sent to jail at higher rates so Clinton donors can make more money. The people who make money off of drone strikes in the Middle East donate to Obama and Hillary. As bad a Trump's policies will be (a yuuge wall, its size will be inversely proportionate to the size of Trump's hands) they will be less bad than Hillary's policies would be.

>>689292183
I consider it necessary for the left to realize that their attempts to get muslims and gays to play nice will not work.

>>689290470
yea this dichotomy is TOTALLY rhetorically valid, buying a gun and killing fifty people is totally the same as buying a pressure cooker and making a bomb! i mean, gun deaths account for more than 30,000 fatalities in America annually, and pressure cookers clock in at a close second. Plus, both guns and pressure cookers have a lot of things you can use them for other than killing or maiming people. I'd start applying to policy think tanks ASAP if i were you

>>689292779
I did 3 tours in iraq, ive killed my share and i loved every minute of it, i was paid to kill men women and children, i relished every kill orders or not the whole unit eas just begging for one of those ragheads to give us any reason to shoot them and their sons dead and we did, we killed them with impunity and now back in MY country people are defending islam, i would kill them now even without being paid to

>>689293275

> living on the country that started all
> nuke 'em

Do you play fallout my friendo?

>>689292908
I'm not going to call a nigger "a nigger" to its face. I have class.

The FBI interviewed the moslem killer 3 times in regards to his associations with known terrorists and comments he made indicating support of them. For 9 years, he was an armed security guard for G4S. In each instance, the Fucking Bunch of Idiots closed their "investigations" and found that this moslem was ok, and could continue to carry a weapon for his job, and he could buy more guns if he wanted. This is a complete failure of our fucked up SJW liberal government and has nothing to do with legal gun ownership, which we apparently need now more than ever to protect ourselves as our government is not doing so.

>>689290095
Faggot, doesn't matter, take away guns, people kill people in droves with knives; take away knives, people kill one another in droves with sticks; take away sticks, people kill each other with fucking can openers. Not a gun problem you fucking moron, it's a people problem. Mass murder happens worldwide (here's the kicker) DAILY. Get a clue you ignorant piece of shit. Move to the UK where your subjugated ass belongs.

>>689293533
no but i live in a country that will FINISH the fight, not pussyfoot around the issue for PC reasons.

>>689288671
>I have never been more proud to call this man the president.
>because he has a MEAN face when he heard about the shooting
>such a good president

>>689293365
This man quite literally threw his life away to accomplish this.

He WAS going to pull it off one way or another. You are not punishing terrorists. You are punishing law abiding citizens.

trumps not my first choice but between him and hillary he is the best choice

>>689288671
He isn't the greatest, but despite the Rightists who hate him for his policies, and racist retards, he will be remembered as a good president.

>>689288671
It's called being a good actor.
Everyone in politics is fucked up.

>>689293457
>An actual progressive
Oh boy, more muslims, liberal arts majors, and white male guilt.

What a shame we're not getting that, huh?

>>689293254
I need to provide a trigger warning for autists like this- warning, facts ahead.

Fracking is what keeps the gas price low. Fracking has a lot of negatives (it will probably take 20 years to understand all of the negative impacts) but it keeps gas prices low.

The low gas prices hurt ISIS, Russia and Venezuela (among others). ISIS controls a lot of oil fields, and the low gas prices keeps them from making enough money to expand. Russia is increasingly expansionistic, but low gas prices hurt the gas exports and keeps them in check. And Venezuela's collapsed economy is caused by low gas prices, not by the democratic socialism. (not an endorsement of democratic socialism, but conservatives and Hillary supporters alike point to Venezuela as 'proof' Bernie's economic plan wouldn't work)

>>689293737
You will finish nothing because your country is corrupt from its sole purpose, money has always been the matter, as if america could live without the oil money kek
George bush illegitimately started a way for this shit, dat oil moneeiiii

>>689293670
this is a really amazing argument, and i bet if you never look at any actual statistics or facts it gets even better. Countries with legal guns tend to have way higher rates of homicide and suicide, as well as (obviously) gun homicide and suicide. Link me the bodycount of the deadliest knife or can opener mass murder, I'd love to know how many "droves" are getting killed by those

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>>689293495
In trying to taunt anon and prove anon wrong, you have succeeded in making yourself look like a complete hypocrite and invalidated every premise you made. Take this shit to /pol/, newfriend, and have your ass handed to you on a silver platter.

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>>689290147
what good are dead people?

Slaves are a better option, but you're just thinking too simply.

You really just want people to go to work every day, unknowingly enslaved.

your a cowering pile of shit that thinks clutching your gun will save you.

Wake the fuck up buddy, its not terrorists that are coming for you. Its the bank, the law, and the corporate monster.

>>689291774
Yes right, did that sob that left the gay club last night and passed out at the wheel of his car at the intersection get arrested? True story, it was on the scanner!

>>689291681
Can't tell if trolling or just retarded. I'm leaning towards the latter.

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Mfw bigots don't understand politics.

We need a new energy economy. Thorium nuclear reactors, solar glass, lithium ion batteries, ethanol burning engines.

100% of the GDP in the middle east is from oil. What else are they gonna use to make money if we get off oil? Fucking sand?

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>>689292505
I suddenly like Trump alot more. That and he hates sandniggers.

>>689288823
Worst president ever.

>>689294599
>MUH BIGOTS
There's that word again.

>>689293670
Theres a lot of truth to this. I think a mindset shift in the US is more important than gun regulations; once people change their attitudes on a large scale, weapons designed for killing people and mass shootings themself will decrease in popularity. Its time for the US to mentally move out of the Stone Age.

>>689288671
He was just mad it was a Muslim and not a evil white person.

>>689294599
>ethanol

Faggot that knows nothing about water conservation detected

>>689292656
No they aren't. America is the problem. Bunch of left wing cocksmoking nuthuggers. Your fatass country better do something right and vote for Trump. I bet even the fags will be smart enough to vote for him now.

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>>689294723

>>689289196
Amen

>>689294761
>Its time for the US to mentally move out of the Stone Age.
THEN STOP IMPORTING PEOPLE FROM STONE AGE SOCIETIES, FUCKING CHRIST.

>>689293917
Okay, let's take from the beginning. You live in a country where there is many wild animal, and if something shows up, you would really want a gun to keep you safe.
But besides that, if you exclude the police, the army and some special forces, who would need a gun when nobody else have one ? You're taking out the guns legally brought if there is no reason for people to have them, by the same move you kill the black market of guns and you'd need to shut it out at some point. Now that nobody has a gun, no sneaky nigger to kill you, no criminal, less cop abuse btw since no civilian would have a gun.
Yeah that doesn't stop a terrorist to explode somewhere if he can find how to prepare explosives, assuming he could do that. That same explosive situation could happen today, that doesn't have anything to do with guns.

Any objection ?

>>689294830
You get the point though. Unless this is a troll post.

>>689290095
Wow, you found something we call "the exception to the rule" in Kool kid terms that means something that normally isn't the case. Now here's the kicker: finding an exception to the rule doesn't change the rule.
Think of it this way. If your mom forgets to say "a plain burger for my little baby boy" and Mr worker puts a tomato on it, it doesn't mean that all plain burgers have tomatoes on them

There. Is that easy enough for your high school common core style education?

>>689294230
nice le rebuttal, in rebutting to me you have made yourself look like a complete hypocrite and invalidated any premises you pretended you were smart enough to have. take this shit back to /highschool/, kiddo, and keep pretending you're winning arguments by not actually making points

>>689294150
I'm not talking about oil prices you idiotic fuck. I'm talking about keeping oil traded in dollars instead of any other currency. This keeps the demand for and power of the dollar high. You think Putin doesn't feel Obama's big black American cock in his ass every time his main export has to be sold in dollars instead of his fucking clown money?

>>689292278
>>Hurr Durr they hate us becus our freedumbs


Did your fucking religious republican parents teach you this shit? They hate us because we cant keep our hands out of their country.

We should get the fuck out of there and stop fucking everything up.

>>689293520
Good man anon. Doing God's work.

>>689294208
And yet countries with extremely tight gun control have it worse
See Mexico for instance

What the US has is a problem of a certain minority group (not mexicans) making most of crimes
Stadistics don't lie

>>689295040

I want a gun to compete with because I admire the skill of marksmanship.

I want to hunt because it's a tradition.

I want to collect them because I appreciate their history and craftsmanship.

I want one in case my government becomes tyrannical.

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>>689295272

I'm trying to be objective but they do satanise the american man, like any civilian is a stupid shitty cuck who hates on the muslim. Both civilisation are pretty mean.

>>689295040
>who would need a gun when nobody else have one ?
I'm not going to play along with your stupid and make believe scenario.

This is asinine.

>>689291681

Either bait or retarded.

I died laughing when this happened, i really didn't give a fuck. It was to be expected. I am still waiting eagerly to see how Oktoberfest goes. I expect a slaughter.

>>689295172
I'm sorry, I gave you more credit than you deserve.

If anyone here has graduated grade school (unlike that anon) you should be able to appreciate that increasing the supply of oil/petrol has a greater impact on gas prices than what currency petrol is traded in.

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Hey guys, let's just all pretend we're commandos now! Let's play shoot shoot and be heroes! I'm gonna be Leonardo!!!

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>>689295040
>less cop abuse btw since no civilian would have a gun.


Sureeeeee

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>>689295544
they shoot you, you shoot them, you both bleed out like fucking idiots.

>>689295272
They "hate us" because the Quran tells them that they must conquer the world in the name of Islam at all costs

Havr you watched a single video isis or any radical muslim group puts out? They openly admit it's for conquest.

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>>689292687

Tits or GTFO you little bitch

>>689295644
nobody wants to play your gay bar games Leonardo.

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>>689296069

>We told me to hit a regular bar
>mfw

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>The look of pure American anger in his face

The anger was the realization that one "peaceful Muslim" just handed the LGBT voting block to Trump.

>>689295925
Maybe, just maybey they wouldn't be comming here first if it werent for our perpetual war since the 90's

maybe if we hadn't fucked the pig, they wouldnt have resources, guns, or a motivated population willing to come fuck around in america.

This is 100% our countries fault.

>>689296069
>Iphone poster

>>689295419
yea i guess it comes down to whether you're the kind of person who values their hobby over the loss of tens of thousands of lives. like i really like football but if the NFL killed more people a year than car accidents do i'd be pretty ok with the government banning it

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>>689292687

yeah no matter how much of a fucking muslim you are or how much you hate faggots, you can't kill this many people with just your fucking hands, problem here is how easy it is for crazy assholes to obtain guns in your goddamn country

>>689288671

he's the head of isis, thats why he wants more muslims imported, what a faggot

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MAKE AMERICA NEGOTIATE AGAIN

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>>689296192

>>689296505
> you can't kill this many people with just your fucking hands
What are IEDs.

>>689295419

These conditions are possible, these are very special condition, just like some people still own and use deadly bows, sword, etc.
But your reason are very specific and not meant to be attributed to the country. Better gun control doesn't mean that you will not see your dick substitute again, don't worry about it.
Last reason is shit tho' supposing it's the gouvernement giving the rules, you will not see a gun for that reason.

>>689295544
make believe scenario his working on every other civilized country, UK doesn't even give policemen guns.

>>689295775
If no guns, no fear for the policemen of being shoot by some baboon, not hasty trigger-policing, no #blacklivesmatter bullshit.

>>689296357
lol...true.

Did Captain Nigger even once say "Islamic Extremist"? Or did he just say "terrorism"?

>>689292656
Criminals will always get their hands on guns. More red tape does nothing and the arms dealers are too big to fail.plus islam has been murdering and plundering since its inception, no guns around back then. Blunt, stabbing and bladed weapons.

>>689296733
Those little lights they make signs from

>>689296733
pretty sure you need hands to shoot and type of gun.. Idk, maybe his penis is really big though, and he uses his legs?

>>689296424
Nice analysis, not 100% but I mean i'm shocked to read that on /b/

>>689295417
mexico's gun homicide per capita rate is about 7 per 100,000. america's is about 11. that means if our gun control were as effective as mexico's, we would see a DECREASE of about 30% in gun homicides per capita.

"Stadistics don't lie"

>>689296780
>make believe scenario his working on every other civilized country
You mean those countries that have seen NO significant changes in murder, crime, suicide, or terrorism since enforcing gun laws.

Except for Japan, that is. They're the only instance where gun legislation had notable effects for some reason.

>>689296465

If guns kill people, all of mine are defective.

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>>689296505
Idiot

>>689295113
How exactly is this an exception?

>>689296505
>you can't kill this many people with just your fucking hands
Good thing you can just make a bomb with some bullshit from two or three retail outlets, then. No need to depend on just your hands!

The gun fetish you fuckers have is astounding and morbid. Obsess over something else. Maybe develop critical thinking skills.

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>>689296465
Geeze...cool fallacies.

I value human lives highly. Neither me or my guns have ever harmed a single person.

The system is in place, it just isn't enforced. Mudslime was investigated by the FBI but still passed a NICS check. Explain?

>My "murder tool"

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>>689297067
Cite your sources or gtfo

>>689291139
there was just a great thread on this. The gun rights folks posted DOZENS of statistics taken from around the world supporting the fact that gun bans do nothing to murder rates except at times make them go up....

the ban advocates NEVER HAVE A DAMN SHRED OF USEFUL INFORMATION TO GIVE TO THE TOPIC

>>689289196
What a pansy

>>689290906
You are an idiot.

There is no such thing as revolt or "Islamic extremism". It is just Islam doing what Islam does...killing people in the name of Muhammed. Islam is a cancer, and if you think any different, you are a fucking idiot.

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>>689297202

It's the sushi. It gives them super powers. Turtles AWAY!

>>689293495
ban the guns and watch the pressure cooker sales rise. people will kill people no matter what. get over it and quit trying to ban shit just because you don't like it.

don't like the guns, move to the uk

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>>689297202
>>689297508

yeah I have no argument for you, how can I debate with someone if these people aren't inclined to listen to other's arguments. nice denial tho'

>>689297202
Japan still has guns though.. I really hate when people say japan doesn't have guns, every gun in japan has been grandfathered in, and can be sold/traded willingly. without issue.. you can no longer import guns into japan, doesn't mean that the government went around and collected all the guns, they just banned importing of guns.

Also japan has more problems to worry about instead of shooting their neighbors, they got radioactive water and food...

>>689291149
LOL...bullshit. No gun ever made, except for non-lethal weapons, was designed to incapacitate.

>>689295419
>in case

Do some research you goddam monkey, the whole world is ruled by tyrants. You think some peashooter is gonna stop the power of endless resources if they want you dead?

Fucking Amerifats cant get over a 200 year old document thats 90% irrelevant by now

>>689296780
How do you think gun control works for people that own the guns that are banned? They get taken away you idiot. Just look at the SAFE Act assault weapon ban. They had to either sell them out of state or register them. Once they die, their family can't have them, the state confiscates them.

Also, no guns does not mean leaa dangerous police. In theory you shod say the police would stop carrying guns too, but people have knives and other weapons.

>>689292397
>>689292397
Holy shit are you fucked in the head
>im gonna go to the store and buy some cancer just like i could with a car or a gun
oh wait i can't

>>689288823
I am with you except for the gun-free zone thing.

It is a fucking night club with alcohol served on site. The fuck should we be allowing carry there for? Be a god damned responsible gun owner like the rest of us.

>>689297720
>Gun violence
I implore you to utilize your critical thinking skills.

Gun violence IS NOT synonomous with violence.
Violence does not reduce with gun bans. Only gun violence reduces.

>>689297067
I hope you're trolling, but you're probably serious.

Statistics can be used to mislead or support falsehoods. I have an undergraduate math degree and took a year of statistics. Two points for the non-autists to consider:

1. Cities with strict gun laws (Chicago, Washington D.C.) have much higher violent crime rates and gun crime rights than similar-sized cities without strict gun laws.

2. Statistics can show a correlation but do not necessarily show causation. My favorite example is crime rates and successful baseball teams. A big, densely populated city has a higher crime rate than smaller cities with lower populations. And successful baseball team is usually located in a big, densely populated city. You can show a high degree of correlation between 'high crime rate' and 'successful baseball team.'
Of course, if Obama ever sees the number he'll ban successful baseball teams.

>>689297337
yeah, nobody has talked about, how once AGAIN. the FBI FAILED EPICLY and lives where lost for it, but lets continue to blame the guns, because if we blamed our failed government agencies we would be tyrants.

>>689295544
its not asinine or make believe, do you realize the US is the exception not the rule? Or is your head really that far up your ass

>>689297067
I can manipulate stats too. Most annual gun homicides happen in major urban centers of 300,000+. America has several more of these than Mexico.

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>>689297067
Getting rid of the niggers and spics would drive the violent crime stats down to the point that the U.S. wouldn't even be a blip on the international radar.

>>689297720

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>>689288671
Ahem, OP...

>>689297734

They ought to be used to it, having been nuked three times. And don't blame us for the last one.

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>>689298011
You're totally right about it. I expect people to be reasonable, I will be as well. My last pic was non related if so.

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>>689297915
>>Visits /b/
>>Has to actually ask "are you fucked in the head"
Summer's here. inb4 404.

>>689297337
right, and i think most relatively intelligent people know that the vast majority of guns and gun owners are not killing people. what i said wasn't a fallacy, though; even if you buy 100 guns and never kill someone, advocating for guns to stay legal just because you like them and use them safely despite tens of thousands of people dying is essentially choosing a hobby over something that could save a non-negligible number of lives. he bought his guns legally because there was no fair reason to deny him them, unless you're saying that simply being investigated by a government agency should deprive someone of their second amendment rights, in which case why have that amendment at all? i think at the very least we shouldn't have assault weapons sold to civilians, they will never be fun or interesting enough to justify the needless carnage they enable.

>>689298012
Sorry, that should be 'gun crime rates' rather than 'gun crime rights.' I guess I'm attempting more multitasking than I'm capable of.

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>>689297720
and

>>689298186
Is that a rapper?

Why can civilians own assault rifles?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

>>689297734

I think its lost in translation, we said "Japan has no balls"

>>689298165
I'm sure niggers don't kill people in britain since there's no guns.

Oh wait. They just use knives instead, and just as frequently. What problem are we trying to solve again...?

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>>689298186

>>689296424
>since the 90s
Good job forgetting history before you were born.

The muslims have been actively trying to expand since their beginning. Do you bit remember the first bombing on the WTC when Clinton was in office? Arab spring? The terrorists at the Olympics? During and around the WWII? How about the Ottoman fucking empire? The genocide the Turks carried out?

This isn't current events. This isn't a new chapter. This is Islam. This has been going on since the first jihad they carried out. We have this writen as historical fact, your ignorance of it is appalling.

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>>689297720
and then the side the libfucks don't care about

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>>689289096
Good point. Muslims should not be allowed to buy guns.

Thanks for pointing that out.

>>689298406
define assault,

define rifle.

come back when you realize how stupid you are and apologize.

>>689298287
hahaha oh no u got me xD
10/10 lets ban all teh gunz noa

>>689296453
>hurr durr image.png

>>689298406
Republicans.

>>689298494
Maybe its not guns or knives that are the problem but niggers?

>>689298299

Easily a strawman. You presented my state in a light that makes it seem like I don't value human life because I want to own guns

>>689295040
Fuckin 10 year old

>>689298514
those statistics aren't true. lol.

>>689295775
Look at the world around you, dude. The US is the only "first world" country with fuckin gung-ho cowboy cops that shoot first and give no fucks later. Very few other developed nations would stand for that kinda shit.

>>689297679
but that doesn't happen. when people ban guns, there isn't a proportional rise in the death tolls of other types of massacres. i'd be happy to see a source that says otherwise, tho

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Fuck that nigger. Look at this shit.

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>>689298383
Aren't they all?

>>689298582
This. People who don't know anything about guns shouldn't talk about em.

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>>689288671

>>689295918
Nobody has gun? You mad dumb

According to something I read, he put more money into mental health, which is a nice party favor for once. What most people don't know is that the classification of assault rifle changes each time a new bill is passed.

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>>689298840

>>689298695

What point are you trying to make? We're talking about US gun laws and therefore we're looking at our bad police...

>>689298693
yes, 'cus the CDC, Harvard, DOJ and others just make up their numbers

>>689298840
I know about guns Nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBe0VCso0qs

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>best president
I think
>John F Kennedy
>Teddy Roosevelt
>George Washington
>Abraham Lincoln
Would like to have a word. Faggot they cared about this country and actually did shit

>>689298727
Well, shitholes like YOU are all for keeping terrorist scum from getting guns - and asshats like me merely debate you in this while YOU blame Muslims and everybody.

No, fuck you, you fuckboy ass nugget. Fuck you and your love for guns and bigotry. Fuck you in the ass with a cactus plant.

>>689298410
"TROP is a non-partisan, fact-based site that examines the ideological threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom."

> look I look over facts, to prove that they're wrong
yeah very summers indeed

>>689297720
Because their entire argument is based on feelings.

There's a reason people typically refer to the liberal ideal as the Nanny State. It's because liberals want the government to control all aspects of their lives.

They're way to naive to comprehend that it's a philosophy that only benefits you when the government shares the exact same ideology you do.

The government may be leaning Left now, but how are they going to feel about handing all control over to the government when it leans Right?

Not to mention how weird it is that they can scream about how all police are racist, murdering assholes - but then with the very next breath scream about how we need to make sure that only police have guns.

Do they not listen to themselves or something?

>>689290095
>People only buy guns to kill people

This is what liberals actually believe

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>>689299004

The CDC doesn't report on gun violence...

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>>689288671
Decent trolling, but I'm not dumb enough to believe anyone thinks he's a good anything... much less president.

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>>689298840
here's some fresh facebook OC cringe for you. I already rekt the person on my facebook who posted it.

god damn it doesn't even make sense.

>>689299134

I buy muh guns to do chores and then I play my wii u with muh gun

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>>689288823
The shooter had a legally purchased assault rifle.

What the fuck does a private citizen need an AR-15 for?

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>>689298012
of course statistics can be used to mislead, i was responding to some idiot who said "stadistics dont lie", which they can, in their way. I appreciate what you're saying, but the leap between countries gun laws and a corresponding decrease in fatalities is, while still just a correlation, a significantly more likely causative one than a baseball team would be. Sure, all correlations are just correlations, and none explicitly prove causation, but as humans and not just number-crunchers we can apply nuance and context to correlations to try to understand causation. I don't think it's impossible for a thinking person to believe that a near-total global correlation between gun control laws and lower gun deaths might imply some kind of causation.

>>689297258
oh, don't mind me, keep your gun laws as they are,in fact, it's kinda of amusing, it's like watching a retarded kid jamming a fork over and over again into an electric outlet....and besides we have to give the gorefags their rekt thread images somehow
Oh and before you go full retard again and call me an Islam apologist,i hate religion, in fact fuck muslims and their goat fucking religion

>>689288671
Canadafag here.
Think about this: basically, we don't have guns. And we don't have these mass shootings. It's that simple.
If you want to stop mass shootings, get rid of guns. For some reason, having assault weapons available to crazy angry people results in this kind of shit. Who knew!
Anyone who disagrees with facts is the definition of stupid. A smart person is somebody who is able to change their opinion when they realize they're wrong. Gunfags, don't be ashamed if you have to reevaluate your position.

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>>689288671
The fucker didn't even mention islam as being to blame or responsible! anyone who looks at what happened and blames guns and not this fucking backwards religion is an idiot

>>689298699
http://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/

Well, the murder rates stay the same one way or another.

>>689299275

So we ban guns from certain places? We already do lol

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>>689291606
topkek m8

>>689298693
Lol I assume major impartial research groups and law enforcement lie when it helps me win an argument too lolololol.

Sources were shown.
Read, bitch

>>689296573
Wasn't that what Reagan did?
You know, with Iran Contra and shit?

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>>689299460

>>689292278
We need a leader, that will make brown 'people' go away.

Forever.

It's what they would do to us, if they could.