>>689240353
these were girly men, doesnt count

>>689240353
Actually this proves that you can be slaughtered when you don't have guns.

Inside a club is a gun-free zone. Now imagine if the entire country was this way.

Criminals will always find a way to get a gun, with or without anti-gun laws.

The only thing that changes is that none criminals will be without them.

>>689240929
Non-criminals*

>>689240561
kek

>true though

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>>689240353
Oh really?

Man I bet those 100+ French people felt really superior knowing as they got shot that there was no way those terrorists acquired the guns legally.

>>689240353
>because muh guns

Homos are too liberal, as a rule, to carry guns. Figure they'll learn to defend themselves now.

>>689240353
calling you retarded would be an insult to retards

>>689240353
Gun free zone faggot
>>689240561
Also this

>>689240353
Firstly, Fags are too liberal to carry firearms. Theyre the ones that want them banned.
Second, firearms are banned inside these cubs. If there were armed concealed carry users in the club, the death toll would likely be much lower (assuming the pansy ass faggot was brave enough to actually face the shooter)

>>689240929
There was a fully trained and armed police officer as guard in the club, yet still the worst mass shooting in American history. Guess a good guy with a gun just isn't enough.

The best part about this is, if the gun store owner had denied this guy's purchase of guns, the libtards (including the liberal media) would have crucified him for being a racist. This is why we need to talk problems besides the guns.

We refuse to acknowledge that within our society are elements that are unsafe. We want to blame an object that has no feelings one way or another. But until we address the issue we will never fix the problem.

Not all Muslims are radicalized but enough of them are to be worried. Blacks commit disproportional amount of crimes (including violent ones with guns) and that will not change until we are allowed to talk about it.

People kill victims with guns.

Why can we discuss the victims and the guns but not the People that are doing that? (Unless they are white males)

We should give everyone a gun. And everyone's gun should have a gun. Then we'll truly be safe.

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>>689242609
This anon is smart.
We need more dudes like this.

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>>689242706
There are deninitely people who shouldn't have guns

But how ill disarming law abiding innocent citizens and making them defenseless stop criminals?

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>>689240353

>>689243277
well played

>>689242113
Yes, if only all those drunk, high, people milling about in a dark crowded club had pulled out guns and started blazing away everything would have gone just dandy.

>>689240353

"LOL, us disarmed Eurofags don't have gun problems" ~ Eurofags seven months ago.

All this damage control ITT

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>>689240353
Gay bar == no loss

>>689243779
>all those
>blazing away
Get a brain. Not all people in clubs are drunk or high for one and if they were (assuming they had the proper training which is required for a concealed carry license) carrying a weapon they definitely wouldn't be. Not to mention all of them wouldn't have the gun. Why do I deserve to have no means of defense? Please tell me why that's so fucked up to think its not bad to be a safe responsible gun owner.

>>689240353

You can't carry guns into an area which serves alcoholic bevrages.

No guns, and a shooter wasn't shot until police showed up. What's your point?

>>689242156
Pistol vs rifle.

God damn, you're fucking stupid, know jack shit about warfare, or both.

Wait... both. Definitely both.

You fuckin' goofy cunt.

>>689240353
jokes on you faggot, no one biting.

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>>689240353
>"LOL disarmed Eurofags this would never happen in America because muh guns" ~ Americans seven months ago.
>What do you have to say for yourselves?

Just proves that we should start to be more skeptical of the "religion of peace".

>>689240353
You think a bunch of faggots in a gay bar had guns?

>>689241246
wait, they did it on 4/20?
lulz

>>689240929
I completely agree sir

>>689240353
>>689240929

Those scum in the club were all faggots like you who thinks that wearing a gun is wrong.

>They are pussies like europerans

Try to do the same in Texas or somthing like that

>>689240353
Faggots don't have guns

They think their baby penises are strong enough.

>>689240353
It happened in a place where gun-hating leftists gather and indulge in all sorts of degeneracy. Oddly appropriate.

Have you ever taken a statistics class???

>>689247141
>Faggots don't have guns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

>>689245866
Thats probobally why the muslims chose a gay bar lmao

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why are all the mass shooter white people, why arnt there any hispanic and black people?

>>689244655
Get a brain, moran.

>>689245051
Lol cry some more faggot

>>689244655
There was an armed, trained guard there and he failed to prevent this. Where is your argument now?

What happens when SWAT turns up and sees people milling around with guns, shooting at each other and their own shadows? Your contorted arguments are amazing.

>>689240561
All american are girly cucks who suck their goverment's cock and idiolize themselves. Fucking cancer.

>>689240561
Solid point. Zero BJJ between the 50 of them.
Nobody rushed him; not a single hero to be found.

Rumour is fags running out the back blocked the emergency exit.. killing those behind the door funny shit.

>>689244655
>Not all people in clubs are drunk or high for one and if they were (assuming they had the proper training which is required for a concealed carry license) carrying a weapon they definitely wouldn't be

So, why exactly do you think people go to clubs? Like "I'm off to a club tonight, yeah gonna be sober and responsible, whoo-hoo!"

>>689248150
They show up 20 minutes later dumbfuck

>>689240353
they attacked a bunch of gays in a nightclub, that proves the point entirely. they picked the one target in america that wouldnt have guns

>>689242156
the police ran away to save his own skin, is that who you want to depend on protecting you?

>>689248643
Most nightclubs have rules also. just like schools no guns. The soft under belly.

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>>689240353
Eurocowards. Faggots.

Nothing of value was lost when Muslims took out this trash.

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>>689240353
That Florida needs Bar Carry to prevent hate crimes like this. As per usual Gun free zones cost people their lives.

>Armed fags don't get bashed.jpg

>>689247847
the tolls at 59 now and might rise, update thsi anon

>>689240929
nothing will change even if everyone has a gun
>criminal almost always has the upper hand
>criminals will always have guns no matter what because they are criminals
>allowing idiots, overly aggressive people and emotionally unstable people to own and carry guns around results in more murders, manslaughters, gang violence, which results in more firearm related deaths per year.
>US already has the highest suicide by firearm rate in the whole world, and is one of the top ranked countries for firearm related deaths overall. (increasing each year)
>entire EU on the other hand, excluding dumb Russians, have much much lower fire arm related death rate than US.
>Many countries in EU have less deaths per year than US has per day.

>Feel free to look up on those statistics whenever you want If you think that any of these are fake or lies.

Now say again how more guns = less deaths.

>>689247847
because pre planning takes critical thinking skills. More people were killed in the last month in miami from usual nigger on nigger nogging than fags in orlando.

>>689248996
>Let's shit on the innocent gays and support the Muslims this time so that I won't have to admit I'm wrong!

They should have killed people like you, degenerate.

>>689240353
it was a gay nightclub.. they were all unarmed obv..

>>689240929
.>Inside a club is a gun free zone

Then how did the shooter shoot the people inside? Checkmate Atheists.

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>>689240353
The same thing. As an American, I think semi-automatics should be phased out and bought back by the government, and then destroyed. Just ban the retail/private sale of them, and they will eventually be phased out. Criminals will still have them, but not random deranged people like Adam Lanza or this bastard.

I hunt and own guns fyi. I even own a gun that I think should be illegal. A remmington 1100 shot gun. I have to put a plug in it to hunt with it because it carries too many rounds to be legal for use in hunting for my state.

Pro-gun people will still make excuses and say we need more guns because they are fucking idiots.

>>689248829
this, the last club i went to wouldnt let me in because i had a dinky little cuck swiss army knife, they made me throw it away before getting in. the faggot bouncer literally said, you could stab someone in the neck wtih that thing. that was 10 years ago, havent been to a club since, dont go anywhere i cant carry my handgun nowadays

>>689245997
more likely because that's also hitler's b-day so smoke one for the OG next year

>>689249473
this ^^^^^

but americunts cant see that because they are too fucking dumb to understand and too fat to see the reality.

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>>689249473
>less deaths

Don't make me say it

>>689249473
ok, its really quite simple. more people out and about legally carryng guns can respond instantly to a bad person shooting. criminals will also realize that it is much more risky to attack/mug people. are you dumb? have you seen these mass shooters attack police stations? no, they pick schools of kindergarteners and colleges and nightlcubs. i wonder why? you dipshit

>>689240353
We never chalked it up to lack of guns, as far as I saw.
However, we did laugh at you for your incompetence at keeping track of a motherfucker on the watchlist.
This time it's funny too, because of our own political division.
I hope you eurocucks will allow us to curb-stomp the Daesh for you now. ;)

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>>689249955
>>689249955
>tfw

>>689249473
your argument is irrelevant because the only gun was in the hands of the killer.

also this isnt about americans or eroupeans having less gun violence.. this was an act of war from an outside organization

>>689249749

Shot his way in? You're trolling right.

>>689249807
Cool, one less douche in the club.

What's more likely, a fight over something breaks outs and escalates, or something like the Orlando shooting? One happens every night, and the other only happened last night.

>>689240353
Funny thing right?
The mudslimes not picking a biker bar has not validity to it at all.

>>689250178

But you cry about privacy.

>>689250253
you didint realize he was trolling when he checkmate irrelevant shit???

>>689241414
This.

>>689240353
That 50 fags just got shot in florida so its already happened

>>689250146
>more people out and about legally carryng guns can respond instantly to a bad person shooting.

That doesn't happen. Real life is not a Chuck Norris movie. They piss their pants and run away in real life, gun or not.

>>689240561
Are you talking about the french or the faggots?

>>689250544

It's getting harder to tell. Trolling blends in with the plain stupid these days. I trolling is about to die.

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>>689249473
a view into the mind of a cuck

>the manner of death matters
>the gun suicide rate mattering when our overall suicide rate is dwarfed by yurocucks self inflicting
>hurr the EU is safe except for half the countries in it ;_;
2000 per 100k assault rate in britbongistan and a 96% increase per capita in gun crimes since the pistol and rifle bans. the cumbria shooter killed 12 people and never even saw a police officer as he walked around town shooting people with a shotgun. killed himself watching the sunset an hour before cops got brave enough to follow him.
>mfw the white murder rate in the US is lower than the murder rate in europe
>mfw ours goes down every year as yours goes up with every immigrant your government's import
>mfw the yurocucks are beating us in total mass shooter deaths

>>689240353
Isn't that bombing in France?

>>689249526
Simply retarded as usual. Kill yourself.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/query/95d72527-ea70-4cbc-a593-26528faafa61

>>689242156
>police officer

It was a security guard dude

>>689250698
there's a difference?

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>>689247975
No one is crying about shit.

But it's obvious when someone who doesn't know jack shit about warfare of any kind trying to give input on something that they have no fucking clue what they are talking about.

So fuck right off into the air, you dumb cunt ya.

>>689246604
Wait !
Isn't Fort Hood in Texas?

>>689249955
>firearm related deaths
>whole post was about firearm related deaths
>yes, less firearm related deaths

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>>689250440
How is that relevant?
There's a difference between privacy and not keeping track of a sand nigger who turkey explicitly told you to watch.

>>689240353
Gay bait

>>689250797
Took the market a year or two to go underground. Funny. Criminals still have guns.

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>>689250146
Very, very few people have the 4am courage and coolness to effectively respond to a shooter. They are simply not prepared physically or mentally, the shooter is. They went out that morning to get some eaffles or whatever, suddenly there's gunshots and screaming and confusion and panic. Very few can respond effectively, despite their boasts and daydreams. It's far better left to armed, trained professionals to respond, not some fat dumbfuck more likely to shoot himself in the leg or a passerby or get shot by the responding police when he's bumbling around playing John Wayne.

>>689250232
I was making a reply to what anon said in the third and fourth row.

>Criminals will always find a way to get a gun, with or without anti-gun laws.
>The only thing that changes is that none criminals will be without them.

>>689250863
http://miami.cbslocal.com/tag/shooting/
niggers and cubans shoot each other down here all the time, 56 is a few weeks of news stories, proving that media gives zero fucks about black lives when it isn't to foment a soros funded riot

>>689247847
Fucking 4chan. How do these tards manage to create those great graphics in no time.
good job. kek

>>689251155
There's no point in debating the brain washed.

Fox News told them more guns will decrease run related deaths. Only a brain washed idiot would agree with that contradictory statement.

>>689240353
theres a reason he didnt attack a bar with real men.

>>689240561
/thread

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>>689240353
if there had been armed civilans, casualties would have been far worse than that.

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>>689251166
>>689251166

>>689251415
Your military walks around you in plain clothes.
Don't tell me how to handle pressure. POG at best i can smell it.

>>689251683
because of the flailing, limp-wristed shooting style gays use

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>>689251391
Omar did nothing wrong.

>>689245051
>>689248731
>>689250880


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun...Well maybe not that good guy...or yhose good guys sworn to carry them for public safety...Or that guy....Okay, me if I was there I would have saved the day"

>>689251108
Yeah, not really.

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>>689251707
They do seem a little uneducated, Your Grace.

>>689251571
right you are !
The US is on its way to brazilian or south african conditions when homicides are concerned

Can someone with talent start making Omar memes where he's wearing pink or holding the hands of another man?

I think that would be a good way to remember him.

>>689252067
I would have died trying. Not running for the door. That's something.

>>689247847
Black people Can't afford semi rifle and lots of bullets.

>>689249799
you should kill yourself, but by jumping in front of a bus so as to not inflate your fellow faggots "gun suicide stats this totes matters ;_;" statistics

gun control didn't work in australia or england, fucking islands, and you think it will work on a continent? You can make an AK receiver from a fucking shovel.

Besides, if superman threw all the guns into the sun we'd see mass arsons again. Durka Durka here could have killed all the fags in the building if he brought a few lengths of chain and a 5 gallon gas can.

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>>689251168
I like how people are ignoring this post

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>>689242609
Only correct post in the thread.

No samefag

why doesnt america remove all laws regarding guns

make everyone able to own one, carry one anywhere and conceal if they want, no age limit, no criminal record limit, no limit on any weapon

would work better

>>689252365
Gun control did work in Australia and UK.

Do you think Adam Lanza had the brain cells to manufacture an assault weapon out of parts from Home Depot? I don't.

>>689251113

I'm active duty, have been for 15 years. I've been involved in killing more sand niggers out of Nevada than in country. Why don't you worry about the UK and the invasion.

>>689250797
>not looking up actual, official, legitimate reports and lists
>UK has 0.23 homicides per 100k
>generalizing whole country because of 1 isolated incident
>mfw when picking UK or Germany as an example for this subject
>mfw you are too stupid to see that we have more mass shootings (only recently) because we are closer and chosen as a target, hence the more exploding sandniggers and mass shootings (which were done in crowded gun free zones, so I guess you can connect the dots here by yourself)

>>689242609
underrated post

Well the people there have to actually have guns for the whole self defense thing to work. If some religious whacko was going to attack a place you were at, would you have a higher chance of surviving if you had a gun or if you were unarmed? The answer is simple and has nothing to do with your cuck politics.

>>689240353
> What do you have to say for yourselves?
This isn't a gun problem. It's a sandnigger problem. Nuke the Kaaba. Kill all the sandniggers.

>>689249473
>>US already has the highest suicide by firearm rate in the whole world
Not surprising when we have so many guns. Seems like the most efficient way to an hero if you own one...I support the right to death, so i don't really care either way.
The bottom line is, guns are here to stay. We won't give them up, and disarmament would never work anyway. There's too many weapons to confiscate and we distrust our government too much. You can talk about Britain and Oz all you want, it's just a different situation. Much larger population with much larger per capita ownership here.

>>689249749
Normal people follow laws... Hence, they would leave their guns home or in the car or somewhere else...

>>689251415
>>689250146
>>689250697
>>689251415
the point is that by the time armed professionals aren't perpetually with you, dipshit. and if "armed professionals" can be made out of GED or highschool diploma roided out shitbrains, then for the casual educated person, it should be quite easy.

hypothetical:

you are in a restaurant, eating food. gunman walks in, starts shooting people at random. person sitting 3 tables over has legally carried handgun he took the required training classes and background check for. you notice him pulling out his gun, before shouting "WAIT, LETS WAIT 10 MINUTES UNTIL THE ARMED PROFESSIONALS GET HERE YOU DUMB REDNECK"
the gunman hears your faggot sqeal and turns the gun to you, ending your life.

and thats why you are a retard

>>689252601
>would work better
If you want to reduce the population.

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>>689252648
>Gun control did work in Australia and UK

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>>689248159
/thread.
fckn true

>>689240353
That happened in an area with strict gun laws.

>>689252714
You're the one questioning why the cop with the pistol didn't stop the sand potato with a rifle?

>>689240353
It was a gun free zone.

>>689250697
>>689251415
the point is that by the time armed professionals aren't perpetually with you, dipshit. and if "armed professionals" can be made out of GED or highschool diploma roided out shitbrains, then for the casual educated person, it should be quite easy.

hypothetical:

you are in a restaurant, eating food. gunman walks in, starts shooting people at random. person sitting 3 tables over has legally carried handgun he took the required training classes and background check for. you notice him pulling out his gun, before shouting "WAIT, LETS WAIT 10 MINUTES UNTIL THE ARMED PROFESSIONALS GET HERE YOU DUMB REDNECK"
the gunman hears your faggot sqeal and turns the gun to you, ending your life.

and thats why you are a retard
>>689252253
>>689252067
i would have saved my own life, thats for sure. but i suppose you would rather rely on a muslim terrorist sparing your life

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>>689252648

yup. real successful.

because once we made drugs illegal, all the drugs just vanished, right?

>>689240353
fags don't have guns. and he jsut killed fags so like idc

>>689240353
>gun free zone

>>689250697
> This

American kids tend to think that watching an actor do it in a film is how they'd do it themselves. Anyone who has been shot at will tell you it's balls out terrifying. To be consistently effective in CQC, (think swat or Delta Force) you have to be conditioned by thousands of hours of live fire work, including training with live rounds flying over your head to eventually curb the shit your pants and die instinct.

This concept that an untrained civilian is going to whip out their pistol and deal with someone firing an automatic rifle at them is fucking joke of the week.

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>>689253388

The shooting happened in a gay bar, so it's safe to say that the majority at the club were far-leftists who were likely anti-gun. The "why were no concealed carriers saving the day" argument is invalid here because it's the same people who likely make that argument themselves that were shot.

>>689253073
That's a one shot gun. Do you think it's possible to do a mass shooting with that?

My point is proven. The best you could do is provide a single shot gun that has a 50/50 chance of blowing up in your hand.

>>689252868
But countries like S. Korea and Japan have much higher suicide rates than the US despite virtually no guns

>>689247847
Where is that Aussie fag that rekt that restaurant?

>>689251707
>>689252125
I think that other anon was stating that having less guns just means more hammers and baseball bats. doesn't change the amount of violence, just the method. but that's my assumption.

I also see you like tv shows. good for you, faggot.

>>689253514
Yeah all those rapists that have been shot by their victims has made America a rape free zone. Fucking retard.

>>689253534
Sexuality =/= Politics

There are plenty of gun loving homosexuals in the world. Log cabin Republicans being one of the more famous groups.

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>>689253592
shoot the guard, take his semi + reloads

>>689240353
I would say that your liberal agenda is showing and to fuck off back to the hole you crawled out of.

kek listening to 4chan users basically there should have been so many guns in a 50m radius from that nigger that even just throwing them at him would have been enough to kill him
stop blabbering faggots

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>>689253667
>Less
Stop it.

>>689253895
>guard with semiautomatic weapon

Go watch some more movies faggot.

>>689253673
>Yeah all those rapists that have been shot by their victims has made America a rape free zone. Fucking retard.

Only as retarded as believing gun control would make America a gun free zone. All it would do is dectuple our already ridiculous prison population.

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>>689253667
>less

Not sure if troll or genuinely retarded

>>689253673
THIS

>>689253273

>You are in America eating food

fixed that for you.

Number of mass shootings in Canada since the 1700's 26

Number of mass shooting in The US since 1700's literally unknown.

The problem with hypothetical questions is that people love to tilt the odds in the favour of their own bias as you clearly did.

You guys love that hero attitude, a nation of dirty harry motherfuckers who can't wait to take down the bad guy

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>>689253592

> who cares if you get shot if its not in a mass shooting

here's another homemade gun. took a bit more than 5 minutes to make.

>>689254123
Are guards restricted to single shot and single action revolvers where youre from

>>689252987
>you are in a restaurant, eating food. gunman walks in, starts shooting people at random

At which point you soil yourself and crawl under a table, gun or no gun. It is almost certain you would not be able to respond to a gunman who is physically and, more importantly, psychologically prepared for this moment.

You know what? I'm done arguing with you spastics. Go and indulge your pathetic John Wayne fantasies. I look forward to seeing your bloated bullet-riddled corpses on Liveleak.

>>689254342
We don't have guards.

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>>689254123

> I literally have never seen a gun in real life: the post

>>689253895
You're having to stretch here lol

Okay, hypothetically he could ninja into a military base and strategically use his one shot to get an assualt weapon. From there, he could use his assault weapon to get ahold of an apache helicopter, and from there he could wreck havoc.

Yes, I will give you that, anything is possible, but it is stupidly unlikely relative to the alternative.

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>>689254222
>cares if you get shot if its not in a mass shootin

The club was a gun free zone

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Faggots are the worst kinds of degenerates. Not only do they not have guns but they are dumber than a sack of bricks. Observe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gc2QRdcSGI

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>>689254397
>pic related

>>689254148
Nice red herring faglord. My contention was most Americans may as well walk around with a water pistol as a real gun because it's not going to be of any more use to them in a gun fight.

That's not the same as making the place a 'gun fee zone'. Personally I think only ex military or law enforcement or civilians that are accredited on legitimate fire arms courses for CQC should be allowed to carry, rather than the any old fuckwit reasoning at the moment.

Though you won't like that because it would threaten your ownership of something you can't use anyway.

>>689254468
Enlighten me,where is this utopia you come from?

Because shooter worked as security guard, he had firearms license, which meant minimal background checks when he bought firearms

'Mericuh!!!

>>689254661
North Dakota.

>>689253673
I bet it mattered an awful lot to those women who weren't raped and beaten to death.

Just like it mattered a lot to the 50 or so gay guys that died at that bar.

But if we're talking statistically: none of this matters at all and the news should shut the fuck up.

>>689253673
No, but I'm sure there are a few women out there who are glad they were packing when they were attacked. And I do think there is a deterrence factor. I know I'd be less inclined to break into a house or mug someone if I thought they might be armed.

>>689254562
Obviously not

>>689254509
no, shooting a guard and taking their gun is reasonable and happens

>>689254618
>an actual gun is of no use in a gun fight

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>>689247847
Number 1 wasn't done with a gun, shouldn't be there.

Lmao faggot nobody said "this wouldn't happen in america" some places in the U.S are becoming as bad as Europe in terms of gun laws. The point still fucking stands that had the nightclub had armed security the towelheaded fuckbut would have been torn to shreds.

>>689240929
Australia is a big gun free zone

How many mass shootings do they have in Australia?

Exactly you are wrong, you are arguing against physical real world proof.

How about Japan? How many mass shootings there? Canada? England?

Lol Muricans belive fantasy regardless of physical evidence

>>689254222
Uh sorry to break it to you, that's not homemade and for it to be homemade would require thousands in machinery.

Also I am not denying that it is possible. Just stupidly impossible. Some asshole like Lanza or a street thug in Chicago is unlikely to have the skills and the motivation to build it. It CAN still happen, but it would be rare. Like that shooter in Oslo. Super fucking rare, not every month or week here in America.

>>689254678
Actually he bought the guns legally and passed a background check

Even being a security guard meant he had a more thorough background check than a normal one

>>689251168
So are you going to ignore me, or are you just going to cherrypick like retards?

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>>689254197
fewer? what are you asking of me right now?

>>689249008
Is it legal in other states?

>>689243277

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN9jTnxv0RU

This made me laugh more than it should.

>>689254920
No its of no use to an untrained moron.

>>689254397

speak for yourself you fucking coward, if youd rather just sit there while a madman shoots you should just off yourself now

>>689249473
*citation needed

not really. your facts are wrong.

>>689254961
Chicago is a gun free zone.

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>>689254678
Which just proves that no amount of limitations will effectively prevent people from going on mass shooting sprees. If you just limit the access of guns to authorized individuals, then the person can just become authorized like what occurred in Florida.

>>689247875
Kek, you spelled moron incorrectly. Who's the moran now?

>>689255117
You have to go through quite a bit of training to get a cc license.

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daily reminder that "mass shootings" are statistically irrelevant.

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>>689243277
Heh