>>689203004
absolutely not. it is related to the high availability of firearms in US american society.

>>689203563
fuck the us and their dumbass policies on firearms

And in those 2 days, 56 people have died do to car accidents resulting from DUIs only. So do you advocate banning drinking or cars?

>>689204210
this is what we call "a wrong comparison"

>>689203004
look at that disgusting nose
ew

>>689204210
DUI is banned you stupid faggot

>>689204210

those 56 people were mostly criminals, though, driving drunk

the people shot were innocent

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>>689204544
>hurr durr looks are everything hurr durr
idiot

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Looks like we got ourselves s false flagger!

>>689204210
+1000000

>>689204428
Is it? People died because other people made choices, intent is irrelevant to victims.

>>689204551
So is murdering people did it save anyone in this case? You want to ban guns because they can kill people. So Gun + Crazy = dead people

Alcohol + Car = dead people - why not ban one or the other?

>>689204670
Only the driver, every person they hit or crashed into was not.

>>689204976
>Only the driver, every person they hit or crashed into was not.

as i said
>mostly criminals

most drunken drivers die alone without hitting anyone

>>689204976
well my point was that both shootings occurred in orlando

>>689205255
Maybe more drunks die solo. But, when other people are involved the drunks die less.

>>689205255
So you are saying that your okay with people dying as the results of other peoples poor choices as long as the victim is random. But not if they were targeted for some reason.

Why not advocate that we should do our best to keep everyone safe? Even those that are at harm for themselves...

>>689204976
Drinking and driving is illegal. You faggot quit trying to be intelligent when your an autist

alcohol should be fucking banned
it's literal poison

>>689205834
So is buying a gun with the intent to murder someone. Murder is illegal you fucking retard. It did not stop the guy from murdering 50 people.

Now with that being said, the current solution is to ban guns. Now with those two statements both yours and mine, we know people are willing to do things even despite the fact they are illegal.

So how does that solve either problem? If both murder and drinking and driving are illegal yet people still are willing to do both. How does making buying a gun illegal think your going to stop all shootings?

>>689204119
I have 3 rifles

3 of which have never fired a shot at anything but a target.

Mass shootings are not common, that's why they're news.

>>689204210
Swimming pools almost kill more last I checked

>>689206161
okay so because you never fired a round that means that it's okay for ANY person to posess firearms?

>>689206161
Swimming pools are roughly 10 deaths a day. There was an average of 3536 from 2005-2014.

>>689203004
who cares for 100 gay and lesbian assholes ?

no one

>>689206729
i do, judgmental motherfucker

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>>689203563
It's because of the high temp combined with high humidity you dumb nigger! Ppl go crazy without good AC. Nothing to do with availability of guns.

>>689206729
>hurr durr i don't like people based on their sexuality
>hurr durr i probably watch gay or lesbian porn every day
fuck you

>>689203004
Deberían matarlos a todos.

I'm not against common sense gun laws. The NRA be damned. But out right banning certain models of guns is a false sense of security.

>>689205561
no, i'm not ok with anyone dying. i'm ok with keeping deadly tools specifically designed to kill out of people's hands wherever possible.

>>689206151
Or you know, actually have decent regulation of your firearms like every other country on the face of the planet.

>>689206729

who cares for whatever group you belong to?
absolutely no one.

>>689204551
>>689204210
nine people die from drowning everyday.

does the water have an ideology?
is the gun sentient?

>>689207246
i don't speak retardese

>>689206151
>the current solution is to ban guns.
get fucked commie, why is it that whereever the higher rate of guns there is less crime?

why is it that the places with the strictest gun control there is the most crime?

>>689203004
Obama is using his MK Ultra Sleeper agents as fast he can, he's determined to take guns away. Mass shooting have gone up 800% since he when into office .

>>689204210
>56 people have died do to car accidents
>died do to car accidents
>do to
due to

>>689206729
hpe lots of them are niggers an mexsandniggers

>>689203004
Why couldn't he just rape her, she was so fucking cute. I would of loved to see the sex tape that shooter stole from us all

So now, why that gay bar didnt have a security guard. If is supose that just one person did the massacre, someone with an gun could stop him before he killed a lot people.

>>689208237
you're sick

>>689207963
>due to
Because a typo means you one an argument

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>>689206729
OMAR DID NOTHING WRONG
OMAR DID NOTHING WRONG
OMAR DID NOTHING WRONG
OMAR DID NOTHING WRONG
OMAR DID NOTHING WRONG

>>689208452
She was an adult, and I rape is better then death

>>689208533
He was a mudslime, on a scale of right to wrong, that's fucking wrong as all fucking hell .
The only right thing he did was kill queers

i love how these debates always go into how your can kill someone with something else. its not about the fact you could kill someone with a spoon its about the ease at which you can do it with said method. I would find it very hard to drown 50 people in the time it would take me to empty a couple clips into a crowd. I would also find it hard to stab 50 people in the time it would take me just to shoot 50 people. Why cant i have a surface to air missile? as long as im responsible missile owner there is no problem right? I guess mabey its because there is that possibility i may snap and decide to shoot into a crowd of people or a building. Im responsible though...

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>>689208533

Guns help population control. Nuff said.

>>689208745
> drown 50 people
You use a cage ,net, or place a medium sized bomb under a cruise ship ,fucking retard
Fuck people are stupid

>>689207758
(citation needed)
(faggot)

Take guns away from regular people. The very wealthy become more wealthy and powerful.

>>689209183
detriot,california, new york, chicago, baltimore

in texas the jihadis were put down by a rent a cop instantly
get fucked commiie

Guns help the poor not become even more poor and more enslaved

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>>689203004
http://goo.
gl/57LLlQ

When u take the guns away trump wins

>>689209183
Cuba, China, Detroit Washington DC, Chicago and Venusian , all have strict gun laws

>>689203004
When will America start protecting it's hot passable white women?
#teenhottiesmatter

>>689209589
Where is the vid from?

When the lights go out how will u survive? Guns are a nessesitty for survival

>>689204119
Ban guns and people will still get them.
Destroy all guns and people will make more in their garages. Very simply put, guns are not the problem, people are.

>>689207335
Intent and responsibility go a long way. literally anything can be a weapon. If terrorist decide to rent a car and go driving through parks hitting pedestrians do we start labeling them as objects designed to kill people?

>>689207457
I am fine with regulation, I am not against banning anything for a false sense of security

----Unrelated to both posters
There is roughly speaking, 350 million guns in America. Its estimated that roughly speaking 1/3rd of households in total own a gun.

Our population is 324 million, im going to use an average of 4 people per household so it comes out to around ~26.7 million households have guns (4 per households means, about 107 million people have access to guns).

In 2015 there was 294 "mass" shootings that accounted for 380 deaths. Although accounted by the fbi, whatever, we will add them together. There was 8124 murders committed with guns. So in total we can say there was 8418 "gun related events" that were murder.

That means if you use the numbers I did earlier with 107 million people having access to guns then basically....
0.000078567% of people with guns misuse them for murder.

Using each "household" that has a gun, that would mean that for every home owner with a gun... 0.00031528% commit murder.

You want to ban an item because of that tiny fraction of people that misuse them?

Guns are life

>>689209089
it would be the bomb killing people. You would have to round up 50 people for the cage, not to mention have a random cage on hand big enough to fit 50 people, then drag them to water to drown them. who the fuck can haul 50 people in a net without some sort of other mechanism to lift the weight to the water you are going to drown them in? think about the pre planning for this type of shit and the time it takes. Cant say i really need to pre plan going to busy section of town and start blowing peoples brains out or a school for that matter. Like i said It's about ease or did you miss that point and latch onto the fact that you can kill people with other means? Because i already stated you could. The argument is how easy it is with a gun

>>689203004
Uuuh the difference is her shooter was mentally ill.

>>689203004
Orlando and tampa are both huge fag and nigger cities. Two extremely deadly violent demographics. Whitey goes street sweeping when we get tired of their nonstop animalism and faggotry. It keeps God's judging hand at bay....youre welcome

Ban fat people

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>>689204210
>muh guns

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>>689207758
You should read the whole post before seeing something and responding. I am not for banning guns, so get fucked, you are why nobody can have discussions on things because you can't read.

>>689207963
Sorry, grammar police. My point got across.

>>689210071
That should say I am against banning anything out of a false sense of security, not that I am not.

>>689210071
>I am fine with regulation, I am not against banning anything for a false sense of security
>----Unrelated to both posters
>There is roughly speaking, 350 million guns in America. Its estimated that roughly speaking 1/3rd of households in total own a gun.
>Our population is 324 million, im going to use an average of 4 people per household so it comes out to around ~26.7 million households have guns (4 per households means, about 107 million people have access to guns).
>In 2015 there was 294 "mass" shootings that accounted for 380 deaths. Although accounted by the fbi, whatever, we will add them together. There was 8124 murders committed with guns. So in total we can say there was 8418 "gun related events" that were murder.
>That means if you use the numbers I did earlier with 107 million people having access to guns then basically....
>0.000078567% of people with guns misuse them for murder.
>Using each "household" that has a gun, that would mean that for every home owner with a gun... 0.00031528% commit murder.
>You want to ban an item because of that tiny fraction of people that misuse them?
they dont give a shit about facts. they just want more power and want to ban anything that stands in the way/fund any bs initiative thye can be in control of

for instance the zika virus scare. in the past 15 years only 42k have died from wesnile virus which is way more abundant. thats only 7 people per day and zika is 1000% less then that. its all a scam

>>689210431
Great argument, 100% would read again. You convinced me I was totally wrong. Great discussion you won the internet.

>>689210494
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Ayyy lmao

Ease of killing. Oh good. I'll drop some clorox and ammonium into the fags club air system and kill more than 50 faster than the use of a gun

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>>689209183
>>689207758

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0
prolly the best argument about gun control

>>689203004
No its not a coincidence that people who shouldn't have guns can easily get guns

>>689208455
No. It meens your stoopid.

Easy mix one gallon of clorox bleach with ammonia put in vent watch fags in club die faster than gun and more of em. Banning guns not the issue

>>689204210
Except many of those were people who got into wrecks themselves but that comparison doesn't matter anyway. A vehicle isn't made to kill shit. A guns only purpose is to kill things. I can't just pull out my car cannon walk into a place and start shooting cars at people

>>689206729
I care about their assholes trust me

>>689209589
What am I looking at? Looks like a dick but it kinda doesn't..

>>689203004
The problem is there isn't enough guns

>>689211067
Your the one who can't spell stupid, and I'm not the one that did the typo

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>>689209043
Not when you shoot Gay people

>>689209413
Baltimore
DC

Combined have the highest rate of gun crime in the entire of the United states.

It is 100% illegal to own an AR in DC.
It is illegal to possess a bullet or a spent casing for a firearm that you are not licensed to own.
You may not purchase a firearm in the state of MD with a magazine greater than 10 rounds. No extendable or folding stocks. No flash suppressors.
You must take a training course and be finger printed to buy a hand gun in both locations.
List goes on.

Baltimore has a murder a day.
DC has a murder a day.

>>689211423
If you don't care about people killing themselves in drunk driving accidents make sure to ignore every gun stat that includes suicide as well, so you aren't a hypocrite.

With that being said, why do we build cars that can go 80-100-120 miles an hour and consider them street legal? There is literally no reason. We have speed limits of no higher then 65 in most states and 75 and others but cars can still go 100+ mph. Shouldn't we regulate that as well?

I would also point out that people use sharp shooting as a kill with no intent to ever kill anyone. A bow and arrow has no point but to kill things, I am guessing hunger games should be banned for promoting bow violence?

I'm not intentionally being thick, but I am pointing out the failure in logic that is used when people hear the word gun.

It's fucking Florida...

It's actually a requirement to be out of your fucking mind if you want to go to or live in Florida. Whenever I see weird shit in the news, I immediately check for a mudslime based country or Florida as the location.

If it's Florida, I'm never surprised.

Let's be honest.

If you're the coroner, would you fuck her cold dead corpse? Those smooth soft sexy legs which can't grow hair anymore...

>>689212537
Should read
>I would also point out that people use sharp shooting as a skill with no intent to ever kill anyone. A bow and arrow has no point but to kill things, I am guessing hunger games should be banned for promoting bow violence?

>>689203004
Murder should be illegal.

>>689212858
I agree. If Murder was illegal, people would stop doing it.

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>>689203004
I live 14 miles away from Orlando. Shiieeet, Florida's gonna get fucked by gun control now.

This was the last song she played before she died: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGjsy7rYHec

Coincidence? I think not.

>>689212926
Why aren't these liberal cucks changing the law, murder should be illegal

Will TNA Slammiversary go ahead tonight in Orlando???

>>689213029
What a shame. We never got to see her whore herself out once her fame started dying to keep her relevant. Now I'll have to fap to old pics of her clothed.

>>689203563
Why is it that the best states to own firearms (ie: Texas, Arizona, etc,) have significantly less shooting deaths.

>>689207246

Who should "kill them all" ?

Are you implying you don't have any gun?

>>689212537
There's no failure in logic except your own lol you are being very thick and using fascile points. Sharp shooting without killing and bows and shit what are you trying to babble about ? Most people don't want to ban guns don't go strawman, we just want regulation. A bow is sort of self regulating considering rate of fire possible distance and all that shit

>>689213214
Cops also get more firearms and funding there.

>>689213214
People are too miserable to even leave their houses

>>689204544
Juden !!!!! we have a Juden !!!!
excelent observation
so a muslim walks to a bartender they ask him what would you have then yells shots for everybody.

Shame. She actually sounds pretty good.

>>689203004
>>689203004

4chan use to be cool now its just facebook comments without profiles attached..

Fuck all you little kids for not knowing what a fingerbox is

WHY COULDN'T THIS HAPPEN TO HARDCORE FEMINIST CHLOE MORETZ OR HOOD CUNT NICKI MINAJ =(

>>689212537
>75 max speed limit
Obviously has never driven before.

>>689213521
I can't wait to have a child to pass my fingerbox onto. It's a beautiful Cedar texture woodwork that I had polished. My Grandfather put a lot of pride into his fingerboxes.

>>689213456
>>689213355
>im a salty yank

>>689213355
Obviously cops isn't the deal, usually in these mass shootings they fuckin kill themselves or try and take out cops, not relevant to the argument.

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>>689206729
>fuck anyone who is not like me

Fuck off and die

>>689213214
majority white people?

>>689213317
there already are regulations, and places like california which have the most strict gun laws in the country, still have crime higher then other states per capita

>>689213214
coz those places are comparatively empty

>>689207799
Ooooooh

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>>689214004
>Texas
>Arizona
>majority white people

>>689213317
Guns have no point but to kill things. Sharpshooting is a thing. literally an even at the Olympics.

I've already said im not against regulation, i'm against banning it out of some false sense of security

>>689213566
http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/speedlimit_laws.html

Sorry I missed Nevada and Texas, both have an 80 mph and Texas has a 85 mph rural speedway but none of the other 48 states is above 75. And if your from Europe..I frankly don't fucking care, go back to your train or bus.

>>689214004
Maybe, which helps my case in the fact the problem isn't guns. It's people.

Just another day in sunny ol Florida!
Teehee!

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>>689214011
Think about it the other way around, high crime rates lead to stricter gun control. Do you people never even think about that? And the regulations in California are still a complete joke

>>689210126
>it would be the bomb killing people
Maybe the first fifty, but the next 50 would for sure drowned
>an assault weapon is also the sum of it's parts, like drowned a 50 people in a cage. ,your just nit picking there
>who the fuck can haul 50 people in a net without some sort of other mechanism
Give me two trees and the kern river in summer, and I'd server you up 50 drowned people in less then 10 minutes

If you ban firearms only law abiding citizens will be unarmed. The criminals will still carry. And the murders will still happen.

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Florida is a shithole anyway

>>689214246
Wow sharpshooting at the Olympics ... what would we do without that? And still that main purpose is to destroy something. A gun has one single use

>>689214525
People actually think this...

>>689212964
But the guy used a glock damn that is a good fucking aim you gotta admire that, wonder if he got the chopper on his care package.
also another firearm

>>689214723
People actually believe banning all guns will solve the problem.

>>689214613
As a resident of Sanford I approve this message

>>689203563
Bullshit
It's because we don't actually help mentally disturbed people, think about it, almost all shootings to date are caused by people who have some form of a mental disorder.

>>689214620
So do your k9 teeth, your a killer anon, all you do is kill things ,you have to kill things to survive

>>689214723
Have you ever fired a weapon?

>>689214620
So are you saying people aim to be sharpshooters so they can kill people?

So all of these people should be on the FBI watch list?

http://www.usashooting.org/12-the-team/rioinsight

People also hunt, but sport is a thing easily relate-able to most people.

Drugs are illegal but people still aquire them. Child molesting is illegal what's your solution. Castrating every man.

>>689215441
>People also hunt,
you know fuckers a vegan tree huger

>>689215441
like when you`re so pissed off at the system then train your nephew to snipe and take him on roadtrips.

Will trump win now?

>>689215425
Yes I'm a gun owner

>>689213875
I remember my first fingerbox.. 1st grade birthday present. Only had 3 holes though

>>689215572
>Child molesting is illegal what's your solution. Castrating every man.

Actually, studies from the past 20 years show that women actually molest more children then men

>>689215879
That's good

>>689215636
Lol you're close... I'm a butcher and I hunt

>>689216066
Not you, the tree huger you were arguing with

>>689215960
Touché

>>689216044
Probably not, I'm insane but whatever I have them I just can't buy any depending on their background check

>>689216166
That was me, and yes I'm a butcher

>>689216179
It's actually why the mother son fantasy is so dominate in today males, even though most of them don't remember being molested.
That was shit on my final

>>689214389
then explain why states with the highest amount of guns and lesser regulations of self defense have less crime?(stand your ground, castle doctrine, right to protect property,etc)

A person can commit a mass murder with fertilizer. Are we suppose to give up yard care because we banned something that can kill.

>>689216614
Because areas of low crime make policy fit their issues and areas of high crime they tend to restrict weapons. How do people never realize it can work the other way around ?

>>689214723
criminals dont follow laws, and as evidenced over and over gun free zones dont help anyone other then those who wish to cause harm

>>689216348
I'm tired and trying to stay up so I can wake up for work tomorrow, sorry I'm confused
I grew up with guns, was even in the army I don't own any now because a gun is like owning a pet, you have to maintain them or they rust and go to shit. I'd forget about them for long periods of time, then when I did feel like shooting I'd have rusted pieces of shit

>>689204119
>fuck the us and their dumbass policies on muslims

>>689216665
We already have, you need a lot of it to do anything and it's monitored and controlled. A friend of mine has a garlic farm and they actually check in on them here and there. And also yes it should be regulated

>>689217048
I know, we need to just kick them all out already

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>>689216839
pic related. i understand your hyposthesis but its just wrong and not supported by statistics

>>689204551
>DUI is banned you stupid faggot

So is murder you fucking idiot

>/b/
>celebrating a terrorist attack on american soil by a mudslime
>"its ok they killed gays"

fuck me you guys are fucking cringe, really hope your caught in the blast when one of these cunts sets off a dirty bomb in the states, it dont matter if they are gay or straight there americans you should all feel fucking ashamed you pathethic keyboard warriors kys

>>689217264
did you get some good caps for your news blog faggot?

>>689203004
meanwhile in Ukraine

>>689208745
Its a magazine not a clip dumb nigger

>>689217431
im straight and not a coward like yourself moron

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>>689203004
I think someone took a firearm and killed some cunts, last time that happened here we banned gun.
Mfw no more mass murder "but... murica said"
Inb4 crime, implying everyday citizen can beat a criminal in violent acts.

>>689210681
I was told there would be no math.

>>689218353
>still caring about terror
Nigga it's 30 fucking years of muslime bullshit, everyone is desensitized or lying. No one will care in 6 months.
>Terror only works if you care

>>689217938
No one gives a shit
>>689211685
Under rated post

>>689218353
i dont honestly believe anyone is saying "murder is okay". i took it all as shitposts and salt.
also
>bc of bad circumstances you cant criticize anything related to it ever again
so fucking what will we do something about the terrorist or just pretend to give a shit until the next one? the discussion of how full of shit this administration is ,is perfectly valid. they are trying to tug at our hearts over bs so they can get more power. think about it. there isnt a government agency that has said "job done we dont need funding anymore, lets close up shop"

>>689218951
sad thing is is that this was a lone gunman and will just trigger others to do the same, maybe next time it will be someone you care about who gets hurt or killed.

>>689219453
If they think the killing is okay they wouldn't call it murder, by definition

>>689219453
murder isn't ok, but it;s a fact of life.

there is 1/4 of a million people in orlando alone. this is a horrible incident that has affected 0.0001 % of the population of the city it was done in.

>>689219645
good point, i dont agree with the edge kings or the ackbars just wanted to defend my talking points against the claim that i supposedly dont care life just bc i believe that taking away the right to self defense is retarded

>>689219827
true.
san bernadino obama
>we dont want to say shit, dont jump to conclusions; 1 week to say terrorism
gay club obama
> OMG IM WITH YOU 100%, this was act of terror!
ser

I thought one was in Dallas

>>689219827
Why murder gay people though? It's not like they're going to breed, I'm not even saying that because I dislike them I'm bisexuals but f you're going to make the population control argument shouldn't you kill straight people ? And he's we need population control and a lot of people should be sterilized

>>689219569
>You hope my loved ones die
>Care about randoms
This is for adults, not moral fag teens who don't understand caring about faggots (kek) who I've never met, doesn't make me a superior human.
>oh no someone just died of old age
>and again
>again
>all my caring

>>689220355
well to be fair he did immediately before death declare he was with isis.

but my point is isis, muslims, home grown terrorists, the kkk, whatever is nothing to worry about in the giant country of the US

>>689206077
But it's a disinfectant

>>689220634
I'd go after bisexuals, every bisexual I've ever known is a backstabbing cunt.

>>689220793
He didn't say he was with ISIS, they had no idea who he was and didn't plan it, he was a lone gunman who just basically said I'm doing this for ISIS there's a difference

>>689220634
my point was that it's nothing to worry about.

i suspect he had some problem, some mental issue, related to gay people. maybe he was a closet homo himself. maybe one made a play for him recently and it really upset him.

maybe he was just looking for easy prey.

but it's not something we should fear or worry about stopping any more than we should worry abuot stopping any mass shootings for any reason at all.

security will go up at gay clubs around the area, probably. but this won't do any good about the next target.

>>689206077
It's literally not

>>689220793
i agree with you, for right now. but we should take measures to hit them before they infiltrate us like they are in europe. but in no way am i scuureeddd or freaking out,more people die choking on cereal

>>689221112
yeah that's what i meant. he said he stands with isis

no doubt isis had nothing to do with him directly. they weren't controlling him. he just decided that the shitty act he wanted to commit he'd do it in their name.

>>689217220
So are faggots you fucking idiot

use your own bathroom or Allah will get you

>>689206077
prohibition led to the biggest wave of crime us history, why do you want to repeat that

>>689221118
The problem to me is heS just a young nut job with no direction in his life. But unfortunately because of this people are going to freak out about Muslims even more and also since he pledged allegiance to ISIS people are going to think it was them while really they had nothing to do with it

>>689221239
well we should take measures to stop any and all hate groups from succeeding in what they re trying to do. unfortunately it's not just isis that's doing this shit. they're just in the news right now.

The problem is the lack of training and lack of psychological evaluation on people who purchase guns. Because there are other countries that have a higher gun/person ratio than the states with far FAR less gun crime. It is possible to have a country FULL of guns with very little incidents like this it's all in how the purchasing is handled and controlled. A big biggg part of the problem is that an average joe can walk into a store and buy an automatic rifle with 2 cases of ammunition without being questioned or psychologically analyzed.

>>689221503
>unfortunately it's not just isis that's doing this shit. they're just in the news right now.
there are no other hate groups that pose any serious threat. afaik isis is the most credible with the most potential people to swade.

>>689221607
Exactly. Buy any gun you want but you immediately go on to a watch list. You best not commit any crimes from then on because you will be first on lists of suspects.

>>689217938
But they really like their m1 garand extendo-clip

>>689205834
So is using any weapon, not just guns, to murder people. Thats his point moron.

>>689221711
well when they start swaying people in significant numbers in the US then we'll worry about it. there's no indication they have right now

>>689221739
the san bernadino people were already on lists, look how much good it did

>>689203004
Woop-dee-doo America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE

>>689221957
yeah we need to actually pay attention to the lists.

>>689206151
Exactly. Guns of any kind are either illegal or next to impossible to get in almost all places in Europe or US. Yet the criminals, wether domestic or international, still use guns in these places.

Who woulda thunk that criminals disobey laws. Baffles the mind.

>>689221850
i also agree with that. im down for taking out raqqa tho. we stepped out of iraq and look at the shit it caused.
i dont want to be in wars anymore but if we are going to combat those radical groups in the ME then we need to go full stop and then quit then skirmishes for decades
>>689222133
thats a fair option, but for wahtever reason we dont..

>>689208533
My NIGGA

>>689222294
i have no issues with muslims killing other muslims, frankly. as long as the muslims are not also US citizens.

>>689221739
I don't see the need for putting everyone that buys a gun on a watch list, only those that buy assault rifles and especially so large quantities of ammunition. It's just common sense
"oh hey there i'd like to buy this AR-15"
"okay here's the price"
"I'd also like to buy 2000 rounds of ammunition"
"Why so much"
"lots of dear where i live"

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

>>689221607
This. I'm a nut job and could buy a gun because I was never hospitalized by a court. I was sent to a hospital by 5150 but unless a judge had to make the call it doesn't matter legally I'm sane when it comes to guns. That's fucked up knowing there's tons more of people like me out there
>>689222193
Those aren't common criminals

>>689222569
all i'm saying is local authorities do a simple check. if everything clears out, i.e. they are not a member of any radical groups, then the watching stops. if it's unclear, or whatever, then a red flag goes up

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>>689204119
can't wait for them to legalize buying warheads and heavy shit. so they kill themselves faster.

>>689222569
>>689222730

meanwhile whoever sold the gun to this asshole needs to get charges filed against them too.

>>689222884
I wonder how fast after colonizing mars that Will happen

>>689222937
Yeah but money talks, they would never be convicted but I agree with you. Regardless there needs to be psych evaluation done on these people that feel the need to buy such ridiculous weapons.

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>>689203004
What a fucking shithole, why haven't we nuked america yet ?

When was the last time we had a serious mass shooting in England? When was the last time we had police murder civilians? When was the last time we had over 30,000 civilians die in a year from gun violence in England?

Oh yeah

Gun laws

These deaths could've been prevented. Irrelevant of your views/beliefs you have no right to be judge, jury and executioner.

>>689223194
i read that it was sold illegally so if they can trace it back then these people should be charged as accesories. if it was done legally, you're right, it's not their fault.

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>>689215140
Islam is a mental disorder

>>689223194
Are you saying there aren't

>>689222937
or i suppose they could do something like put automatic assault rifles into a "prohibited" class and unless you have a special license which requires you to be evaluated, no dice

>>689223351
>population
>the uk has higher crime rates then the usa per capita

>>689223423
All religions are.

>>689206161
I said shut up.

http://2u2.pl/1z

>>689206462
Fuck off faggot

>>689206161
Whats the point in having 3 rifles if your not shooting anything
>hurr durr I like muh shootin ranges

>>689222937
>>689223194
This shit is a joke right?

Charging the people who sell the weapons is incredibly asinine.

>>689223642
this
gunfags are utterly stupid and the reason why we don't have tight gun regulations

>>689223351
Stop trying to reason with US people, they're savages, treat them a you would a monkey and you won't be disappointed.

>>689223642
most likely he's one of the assholes who thinks he's a) going to be a hero and stop some mass shooting. b) stop the government drones, tanks and guided missiles when he has to take down the country.

>>689223691
yeah no joke. it's time the people who are selling the guns illegally go to jail for whatever was done with them, especially when the shooter ends up dead.

>>689223778
We have nukes faggot. You'd better respect.

>>689206161
HAHAHAHAHA mass shootings are not common nice one.

>>689223801
>most likely he's one of the assholes who think
d) a few mass shootings are acceptable consequences of absolute gun rights

>>689223691
I agree, but the government should be putting lines of screening through purchases like this so that it's not at the complete discretion of the gun retailers.

>>689223773
Then make them to prove They're smart

>>689223951
The guns were sold to the shooter legally.

>>689223963
Yeah that's another reason to nuke your shithole of a country out of existence; You're like chimps with machine guns.

>>689224153
>a few

>>689224303
They shouldn't have been. This is why we need a mental health evaluation as part of a background check.

>>689224353
We are the future of the human race. You'd do well not to end up on the wrong side.

>>689224438
He had undergone psych evals for previous employment.

>>689224438
There isn't already?

>>689224303
i read differently. i guess we'll have to wait and see.

>>689223506
Nope, crimes are recorded differently in each country and you cannot make a fair comparison.

But,

300,000 homicides by guns in 10 years is pretty bad. I mean, how many 9/11s is that?

>>689204210
Wel it's 56 people that killed 56 people that's not as lethal as 2 people killing 57

>>689223963
Heard of trident dickhead?

>>689224563
Then they should have revealed that he shouldn't have guns. Someone did not do their job.

>>689203563
yea, because you can ONLY kill people with guns. knives and bombs dont work at all

>>689224688
Your post card attacked my heart string card

>>689224594
No this country is ruled by retards who believe in absolute gun rights. It would be seen as "coercion" to insist on a mental health evaluation for potential gun owners.

>>689224556
Delusion: The post

>>689224839
he was also under investigation by the FBI.

this was a major fuckup.

>>689224793
Unless you have the OK from Washington, those birds won't fly Britbong.

>>689223214
nuke America because an Islamic terrorist killed Americans? thats some great logic you got there

>>689224688
di they attack on 9/11 so that people would remember the phone number 911

>>689224936
But have you read gun laws recently?

>>689223565
this.
except Buddhism and shit like that, at least for now

>>689224970
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

>>689215929
Sorry, that was a bowling ball.

If you are in Orlando, please be safe and please donate blood if you can. Here are the locations to donate blood:
O+ and O- blood donors needed. Due to the shooting overnight, the hospital and blood bank is critically low right now for donated blood. If you are able, please go this morning to donate at one of the locations below.
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>>689225073
Actually the right-wing Supreme Court would rule any mental health evaluations as un-Constitutional

>>689225102
Pffft hahahaha

>>689206729
>>>689203004 (OP)
>who cares for 100 gay and lesbian assholes ?
>no one
>itt: faggots rejected by society that get triggered by this comment