>>689131195
Here we go again.

Thats a nice pic mang.

Blizzard understands that people want waifus over gameplay. Better luck next time, you hat collecting losers.

Battleborn

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>>689131536
>want waifus over gameplay
>want waifus
>waifus

>>689131195
Overwatch has better butts.

Neither, both are shit

>>689131748
proof of
>>689131536

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>>689131702

You're just not ready to post yet, my sweet summer child.

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I'll be Overwatching that ass

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overwatch is more casual than tf2

play dark souls

>>689132188
dubs confirm

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>>689132188

Dark souls is the most casual game there is.

>tfw a company convinced normies that a single player game can ever top the pure cancer of any online competitive scene.

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>>689132048
>doesn't agree with someone
>calls them a summerfag
kek

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>>689132433


>people see through the summer
>engages the meme forcefield into overdrive

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>>689132048
you can't tell me what to do

>>689132596
>>689132433
Youre both newfags!

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>>689132848

fite me nerd

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>>689132383
>Dark Souls
>Single Player

>>689132977

Damn, you got me there. I was focused on the game mechanics being called 'hard" that I completely blanked on the drop in part of the game.

tf2 back then was fun but tf2 now is shit filled with anime mlp tryhards with 20 thousand dollar hats

>>689133135
true

>>689133135

You just sound mad about the hats.

>>689133135
fuck those hats
old TF2 was epic

>>689131195
TF2 just because of the nostalgia, also its a way simpler and easier game than Overwatch, all you have to do is walk, jump, schoot, reload and Overwatch you have way too much abilities and its an more expensive copy of TF2

>>689133317
name one person who wouldnt be mad about the hats

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>>689133609

People with the hats.

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>>689133548
finally someone with common sense

I could never get in TF2, maybe I got into it too late.

I've been playing a lot of Overwatch though and love the dynamics.

Haven't been on my Xbone since I bought it, only other game I've played is BF4.

To me it has a bit of a steep learning curve, having to chose hero based on team and game play.

The 50/50 win ratio is the only thing that pisses me off. I generally have 5 wins in a row then 5 losses in a row (or there abouts). My ratio has basically stayed around 50/50.

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this fucking hat made me rage all the fucking time

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>>689133548

>Tf and overwatch are different
>overwatch is a more expensive version of tf2

Well done.

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>>689133082
Tbh, Dark Souls isn't hard at all. It doesn't hold your hand, but it's fair (for the most part).

PvP on the other hand...Well, let's just say, if you see a guy named Shrek wearing only rags with a large club, do not engage. It's fucking cancerous at times.

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>>689133774
wow
someone preferring overwatch for a legitimately good reason
*slow clap*

>>689133918
well it just has the same gamemodes and almost the same classes, same cartoon-like style and some extra abilities Its the same like League of Legends is the same as Dota (more hate incoming)

>>689131195
Overwatch, mostly because I'm burned out on tf2.

>>689133135
Sadly this, I remember I used to main engie/medic with all my mates. Have over 200 hours logged as engie alone. Game went to shit after free to play.

>>689131420
you know mang????

>>689133774
Even the top players (in solo queue) get near 50% win rates, with the same fluctuation. Blizzard deliberately keeps it that way. Those five games in a row where you have to carry a team of retards is not a coincidence; Blizzard's seeing if you can.

>To me it has a bit of a steep learning curve,
It seems that way to you because you're climbing that curve. Watch some videos of people with low MMR. It's physically painful to watch.

wait i thought someone was dumping overwatch r34, i got scammed!

overwatch is cringeworthy due to its weeaboo style, i prefer tf1 over both

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>>689133841
What do you expect when the whole of the f2p playerbase only has access to like, 5 hats. There's bound to be some cancerous 5 year olds out there with the spycicle.

Sallet is my shit though.

>>689134241

Similar game types, I understand what you're saying, friend.

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>>689134518
KEK

>>689134533
>weeaboo style
Other than the two Japenese guys, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Maybe you're talking about D.Va but you don't know she's Korean and/or you don't know what weaboo means.

>>689133679
the proletarihats will rise

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>>689134628
this
of all the knight-like hats in the game this was the coolest
looks awesome on my demoknight

>>689134830
Every character is drawn in as anime by a japanese comic artist

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meh, played both but Id rather stick to WoW because it consumed way to much time of my life
185 days with my most played one

>playing a blizzlike game
No thanks

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>>689134995
f2p as fuck

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>>689134830
i think he means the community got cancer fast i have a friend whos loved overwatch since day one of closed beta and he admits since like sometime before open beta it started to get really cancerous fans

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>>689135322
I'm not sure you know what f2p means son

>>689135320
For some reason Roadhog reminds me of Immortan Joe and Junkrat one of the War Boys.

Anyone else get that vibe?

>>689135475
neato

>>689134496

Also, if there's any lag I can't even notice it and my ping sits around a constant 40!!

I can finally snipe on a fast paced game.

>>689135607
the hat's still a f2p hat

>>689131195
TF2 just because customizable loadouts and a vast array of weaponry gives it a lot more variety/replayability

>>689135752
even if it is to classify as a f2p you have to have not bought ANYTHING relating to tf2
including the game itself
anything from the community market
or anything from the mann co store

>>689135820
>different character abilities like a moba
overwatch
>diffent loadouts
tf2

>>689135735
If you're a widowfag you don't notice the lag because it won't affect you. Overwatch's netcode favors the attacker. If a tracer sees you and tries to blink away, she'll be rubber-banded back and killed to before she blinked.

They need to up the tickrate and favor defensive moves as they promised.

>>689134027
Souls games are mostly just about timing, spacing, and resource management. More of a real time strategy game in third person than an action game.

>>689135955

the hat is gay

>>689136061
Yeah, the Souls games are hard in the same way a Bastion is hard to deal with. If you ever get killed doing something, the simple solution is always "well, don't do that then".

>>689136270
k

>>689136061
they were never hard people who say their hard just don't play games like it/that genre enough or they're just completely impatient>>689136061
l

Does overwatch have a meta team comp yet or is it still counter play compositions?

>>689134027
I would argue that fighting shrek randomly in dark souls is one the things that makes dks special. it adds a bit of uniqueness to a game that at times gets rather tedious if youve played it for a while. pvp is what makes the game... the meta is cancerous as fuck though

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>>689136528
There are heroes that are picked more frequently than others, and they do change by the map and by the point.

>>689136027
Nah, I like to mix it up. I really try not to just play as the hero I'm best with (reaper)

I'll go the position my team is lacking, I play all games for the win. Winning is more important to me than getting the POTG.

>>689136449
What genre would you consider them a part of? I've played all the Soulsborne games and still consider them challenging yet fair, but definitely a lot harder than most action RPGs to come out these days

>>689136449
And that's what makes them hard. Plus the combat requires a lot more timing aspects and very small attack openings compared to other rpg's. Going into the game blindly without any reference on item locations, meta weapons, or other information in gameplay only makes it harder.

>>689136858
Reaper doesn't play corners so the rubberbanding is harder to notice with him, but there should have been times where you hit your wraithform then were killed a moment afterward. Watching the killcam, you don't see the wraithform activated, but instead you're just standing still.

>>689131195
>TF2 is the sequel to a fantastic game, only with more jerkoffs and HATS
>virtually the same as Team Fortress Classic, which was before Steam was even invented. Steam in its original form was a nightmare that absolutely destroyed some of the most amazing mods people have ever created for half life
>Overwatch is produced by Blizzard, a company singularly famous for taking pre-existing game concepts and polishing the absolute shit out of them until they shine.
>every MMO game in the last 10 years has tried to be "the next World of Warcraft"
>WOW's existence has changed the entire concept of gaming and forced game companies to find alternate methods of being paid for their product since they couldn't compete with WoW's subscription based membership fees.
>micro transactions were born

Overwatch is young, but it comes from one of the most successful gaming companies, and even before it came out it completely destroyed its competitor Battleborn.

But at least TF2 has hats lol

>>689136805

I fucking hate McCree, people who are good at him can dominate and for some reason I'm shit with him although never really tried hard.

>>689137897
fair judgement
bravo

>>689137489

wow, you know your shit! I have noticed that quite a bit!

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>>689137897
lol comparing it to Battleborn, who had shit marketing as the sole reason for it's downfall. Overwatch IS young and it's already starting to dwindle as far as fan base goes. Look at Twitch, Overwatch is now consistently below Hearthstone, a children's card game that's now two years old. The hype has worn off and people are starting to see Overcasual for what it is, a shit game. The hitboxes itself make the game laughable, they're so large that you can literally kill people from behind walls that you cannot even see, just because the hitboxes stick out so far. So please keep pretending like the game requires skillful play. It's well known that Blizzard has been catering towards the casual market, so trying to deny it is pointless. I wouldn't have such a problem with it but they are trying desperately to push their no skill games into esports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Not to mention the boring ass rock, paper, scissor game play and the press Q to show your skill. You faggots make me laugh.

>>689131195
i generally stopped TF2 coz its getting all messy due to the shitty hats and guns that just doesnt scream TF@ to me, rather it screams rainbow bullshit

>>689138001
Fighting McCree essentially comes down to making him waste his flashbang. His tank shredding is a problem that Blizzard is looking into. The best you can do is get the trade kill.

>>689131195
Tracer
>can teleport
>can travel back in time
>has sticky bombs and dual pistols
>from London
>runs at normal speed
The Scout:
>can double jump
>runs fast
>has a shotgun and a pistol (or a baseball bat etc.)
>from somewhere around NY
This pic:
>implying that the scout and tracer are the same because they're fast

>>689139071
>being this butthurt
I love that you take it personally after I've done nothing but state facts.

Nice buzzword nicknames you've used for the games by the way, that definitely doesn't discredit your entire argument and it certainly doesn't make you look like an edgy 12 year old.

>>689139071
>Look at Twitch, Overwatch is now consistently below Hearthstone
Not sure you should be making this point when it currently has twice the viewers.

>>689139458
they're the same because it's the only class he can play

>>689139071
>game loses to competitor
>it's clearly marketing's fault

Overwatch is a serious contender to take on LoL as the leading eSports game to play.

A few fixes in hero balance it'll be damn near perfect.

>>689137897
>virtually the same as Team Fortress Classic

please stop shit-posting.

>>689139503
>not even trying to deny the no skill gameplay

>>689139550
This is recent, it's because a popular Hearthstone streamer just got offline. This streamer alone had 20k viewers, half of what the entirety of Overwatch has, and now it's just smaller streamers. On average, Overwatch is behind Hearthstone throughout the week. I've been watching it's numbers drop by about 10k or so in the last week alone.

Neither of you faggots addressed the hitbox issue. Have fun pretending you're really good at FPS.

ITT faggots flex their rage muscles at the popular things because they're popular

>>689140182
ITT, sheep play popular games because they're popular

>>689139882
Lmfao, get the fuck out of here. I don't even play LOL but Overwatch doesn't even hold a candle to the amount of players League has. You Overwatch fucks are a delusional bunch.

>>689136805

>Mei being last pick.

She's insanely good, I don't get it...

>>689140117
the name of the game is the same, only with a 2, which any retard knows means it is an imitation of its predecessor.

I honestly don't know what to say to your stupidity, it's depressing.

>>689139458
Genji is the real scoot
>double jump
>close range scatter attack
>long range attack
>melee weapon

>>689136805
Mei is OP at the moment. She's basically a sniper with a flamethrower

>>689136061
its not even just that either, get to a high enough level and the whole game bends over for you. Unless its bed of chaos because bed of chaos is a toss up fight.

>>689132383
>this nigga never played dwart fortress

>>689139458
As someone from Boston, I am deeply offended you think the scout is a dirty yankees fan.

>>689140329

Give it some time. League will always be there but with Overwatch we can get some variety and something that is actually fun to watch.

>>689140348
>>689140503
Mei is strong against uncoordinated teams. This graph is for eSports. With everyone on voice chat, and people pairing up when a Mei's in the area, the only thing you're going to do is occasionally make the enemy team wait a couple seconds.

>>689139882

That's a big call and I fucking love it!

>>689140263
why not do some research and ask "why is it popular?" instead of being like the "sheep" you so desperately want to hate.

I know it's hard, but please try to comprehend what I'm going to say to you:

>You are 1 in 10 people
>9 people like Apples
>you hate apples because they're popular
>those same 9 people like Carrots
>obviously you hate carrots if they like them
>those 9 people like the color Red
>you hate the color red, because everybody else wears red
>not once did you stop and think "what's so amazing about these things that everyone else likes them?"
>continue basing your life off of the responses of the people
>literally, and unironically call everyone else sheep, when your life isn't even focused on the trend, but on the opinion of the flock


I honestly feel bad that you people are this retarded.

I really hope you can understand just a sliver of what I've said but chances are you didn't even bother reading it and are right now calling me a beta cuck faggot nigger

>>689140593
Well pretty much any rpg that has an EXP system lets you farm your way to overpoweredness, I've never done it myself because I enjoy a challenge and think it ruins the game

>>689140675
Damn. I was thinking Boston but I'm a britfag and went for the safe option

>>689137195
longsword is all you need, and a divine claymore for the catacombs. If the silver knight sword had better scaling i'd say that.

>>689140503

She needs adjusting I can agree on that.

Her alt fire needs a drop-off arc like Tjor's Rivet gun and Hanzo's arrows. Also she's a little too fast for the amount of survival abilities she has.

I flank all day with her because how fast she is. Her role should be a hard counter to flankers and speedsters like Genji and Tracer.

>>689140898
>why not do some research and ask "why is it popular?"

Because of endless marketing and forced hype. Why do you think tens of millions bought Diablo 3 and stopped playing it five minutes later?

>>689135162
I could never get into WoW. I always lost interest completely around level 10.

>>689140906
I do too, but there are times when the challenges piss me off so I go on my godlike paladin and fuck everyone up.

TF2 the community is better!!

>Blizzard shits out a complete ripoff
>Adds boobs and ass
Seems like I'm gonna quit tf2 because of overwatches """"""""gameplay""""""""

>>689141516
forced hype and endless marketing is a problem I'll agree on that but not every single thing in this life is simply bad quality because "I see too much promotion of it"

Is it really so hard to imagine that some times things can be good because they are well made?

And in regards to Diablo 3, people waited for so long for an improved version of the best game of most gamer's adolescent lives that the game did not live up to the expectations.

Fans of the game made an extremely successful and popular similar game to Diablo 2- (Path of Exile)

It wasn't that people promoted Diablo 3 for too long, it was a combination of disappointing quality and a nonsensical auction house which got cut out after all the time/effort.

Not to mention the constant adding/removing of multiple different concepts into the game.

But you're probably right it was because we saw endless commercials for it.

>>689141516
Well, to be fair there was a lot of natural fucking hype for D3. D2 was a god damn masterpiece and I know I expected the same from D3. But yeah, your point still stands. Blizzard has an excellent marketing team and spent nearly $250 million on advertising alone in 2014. You can't explain that shit to Blizzard fanboys though who try desperately try to justify their preorders.

I preordered Diablo 3, went out at midnight to pick it up, got home and couldn't even play it. I vowed to never preorder another game after that.

>>689141934
I like overwatch for the cowboy and robo-samurai dude. And the reaper, fuck the bitches, they can swing that ass around all day i'll just blast it off.

>>689141934
>adds boobs and ass
this is literally the weakest argument considering how they literally removed a "controversial" ass shake and have been on a moral crusade against the pornography of this game.

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>>689141934
>shits out
If you're not familiar with Overwatch's development history, you probably shouldn't be commenting on it.

>>689142054
>because they are well made

Yeah, but we're talking about Overwatch and that game is not well made.

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>>689142247
Name an existing aspect of Overwatch that is not well made.

>>689142247
"you're wrong because I'm right" isn't even close to a legitimate argument. Are you even trying anymore?

>>689142161
Lmao, yeah, sure they have. Such a crusade that most of their female characters are overly sexualized wearing tight ass spandex.

>>689142164
>development history

You mean scrambling to use the assets that they made from Project Titan so it didn't seem like such a waste? God damn you niggers are dumb.

>>689142247
the game is well made, but it could be better made, but all games including tf2 could be better made. other games referenced in this thread like dark souls could be better made. All games could be better made. saying that a game is not well made is just an opinion, not a fact. Superman 64 is not well made, but it like all other games could have been made better. But a game like dark souls is already well made, but it also applies to the "could've been made better" spectrum. Its just varying degrees.

>>689141934

Not even an Overwatch fag but you gotta recognize the meta aspects of the game.

You win at Overwatch by pivoting mid-game to counter the other teams config.

It's everything that TF2 should have been but more interesting and appealing.

>>689142472
>>689142472

I literally have to post one video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ

Such a good skill based game. Can't wait to see the future of gaming, where the game just plays itself while you watch. That's what's going to happen if you faggots keep it up with this bullshit.

>>689142557
and their dudes are muscley and buff. That shits eye candy for girls, but since no one thinks a guy can be objectified they don't bring it up. Only feminists really give a shit about it. Again, Cowboy and Reaper are all that matter, cause they're cool.

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>>689142900
>mras
grow the hell up.

>>689142557
>scrambling to use the assets that they made from Project Titan
Sure you can include that, but consider the time spent polishing the game since then. Polishing a game and shitting a game out are mutually exclusive.

rather have TF2 cause it's professionally made instead of overly sexualizing every goddamn character to get more costumers
sexy characters are good but overwatch is like season one of GoT

>>689142900
Yeah, man, Winston and Torjborn are so fucking handsome and buff. And Roadhog, and Junkrat, and Zenyatta, and Bastion. They're all so ripped and stereotypical.

Do you even think about what you type or do you just smash your cocksucker on the keyboard and hope for the best? The male characters are pretty diverse, the female character models are nearly all the same. You're a god damn idiot.

>>689143335
Mei is a thicc

>>689143029
grow the hell up? what the fuck did I say that made me seem like a child? guess what? It really is only feminists that fucking care. I don't give a shit if they leave it in or take it out. The only reason that this game is getting shitbombed for "oversexualized content" is because its within the public eye and feminists get on the games case. What about Ivy in soulcalibur? She covers maybe 40% of her body with cloth and then runs around with giant tits. No one cares because its not being looked at from every angle. If it was, feminists would definitely not let it slide, but I don't really care since I only care if Mitsurugi or Cervantes are in it.

>>689143284

Go to sleep Jon Macintosh.

Tf2 is free

>>689143335
Yeah no, no girl likes a rugged cowboy. No girl likes a buff samurai launching arrows around. and there's not a single girl who likes Torbjorn, with that huge manly beard. No guess what? They do. Also Mei is a thing, and she's definitely not like the other girls. You're just pissed cause you think people want to play a game for tits. I'm saying I couldn't give less of fuck.

>>689143904
I'm not pissed, you were the one saying it was (or replying in the defense of someone saying it was) a weak argument about them adding boobs and ass, and were proven wrong. It's ok to be wrong, faggot, but the key is being able to admit when you're wrong. Otherwise you look like a big cockstain, and right now you look exactly like that.

to this god damn day people sexualize content that isn't even sexual. Fuckin legend of zelda. Nothing sexual, and yet tons of people sexualize it. Honestly overwatch is just saving people time at this point

>>689143335
if junkrat shoved his right leg up your ass, would that count as pegging?

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>>689131195
Overwatch has Tracer waifu - Overwatch wins

>>689144178
how is it not a weak argument? Most people choose the fuckin cowboy over anyone else. Most people probably choose male characters over female characters anyway. So when does the sexuality come into it?

>>689143607
>what the fuck did I say that made me seem like a child?
>That shits eye candy for girls, but since no one thinks a guy can be objectified they don't bring it up. Only feminists really give a shit about it.
that right there, you pussy.

This attitude like you're some kind of god damned victim of discrimination because this company is trying to make money appealing to another part of the population is an embarrassment.

So I say again, grow the hell up.

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People being heads over heels over Tracer, not noticing DVa is clearly superior.
Also, I think both games are fun. But I do think that vanilla TF2 (without all those stupid modes, hats, whatever, like the old times) beats Overwatch

>>689140906
>>689140906
im the opposite where i like the xp system allowing you to get ahead because some games get unnecessarily challenging or too challenging because they don't let you get ahead not even a little not sure how /b/ feels about borderlands 2 but I've been playing it for the past week but the modes for past level 50 are bullshit hard/annoying especially when it comes to constructors or any enemy that is badass or miniboss like and above and anytime a explosive enemy appears your screwed which is 99% of any wave halfway through the game.

>>689144477
It's pretty clear he was pointing out the hypocrisy of the person he was replying to, lrn 2 reading comprehension

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>>689143607
>the female character models are nearly all the same
>>689142557
>most of their female characters are overly sexualized wearing tight ass spandex

Spandex:
>D.Va (out of mech)
>Tracer
>Widowmaker

Strategic Butt Coverings:
>Mercy
>Symmetra

Burka Tier:
>D.Va (in mech)
>Mei
>Pharah
>Zarya
>Bastion (/w pink skin)

>>689142134
>reaper
i found the edgy mexican guys

>>689144477
and feminists have never discriminated against males? They do it a lot. I don't mean real feminists that try to actually do things for women, but feminists that raise hell for no particular reason, all in the name of "feminism" or so they call it. Those feminists ruin every bit of progress a real feminist makes.

both games are garbage
/thread

>>689144624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0

TF2 not for a good reason, I just like the Source engine, since hl and cs, and Portal of course, but I played that way after tf2, about the cosmetics, well, is not a big deal, but is way better than the skin sistem, more expensive of course, and a key is literally 20 ref, thats like 6 random cosmetics. Tf2 is a good game for an f2p.

>>689144721
>I suck at these games : the post

>>689143680
just because you want to jerk off to 2D crap instead of playing videogames, doesn't mean everyone else does too

>>689144682
I only barely like the reaper, i'm not a fan of dual shotguns. The cowboy has the coolest shit going for him, but a lot of people probably think so. He ain't the most selected character for no reason

>>689144852
you can do both.

>>689144692
they discriminate plenty, but the fact that they do is just proof that they will never get the treatment they're seeking.

Look at the gay community. They only sought EQUALITY. The same rights as heterosexual people. To love, to be married, and to have the same legal opportunities as others.

Not one gay activist has ever said "we need to round up some straight people and beat them to death and rape them! FUCK YEAH REVENGE!"

Gays can get married now, despite what 2 redneck states say, and this is a world-wide thing. It's beyond America. Gays got the equality they wanted.

Stupid feminists from Andrea Dworkin to any tumblrina will never be taken seriously.

The same goes for black people screaming about white slavery.

They can ask for it, but they'll never get it, because it's not equality.

And the functioning world knows this.

The fact that you whine about them wanting revenge or whatever makes you a god damned pussy

>>689140172
"You're discrediting me at a fundamental level and pointing out the obvious fact that I am butthurt. But because you didn't argue, that means i'm right hahafag you're bad."
"This one super big streamer who's a complete outliar from all statistics that's that's the only reason it was above overwatch just got offline so the rest of the statistics don't mean anything."
Jesus, how retarded ARE you?
The hitboxes are a bit big, yes, but you do have to actually aim to hit them, as they scale with the characters well enough, especially since they aren't standard human hitboxes. And if you think this is a regular fps like all the others, you really ARE fucking retarded.

Though it is bullshit that you get the exact same damage from a sniper shot to the toe as you to to the chest. Widowmaker does need a bit of a bodyshot damage nerf, in my opinion. Or make her consume 10 ammo per zoomed in shot so she can't just get one hit then spam till you're dead.

Tf2. Why? Its free faggots

>>689145229
Apparently these idiots don't care about that.

>>689145229
Overwatch was free during the open-beta. I probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise. It's hard to believe what people say about polish without feeling it yourself.

>>689143335
So are we just going to ignore Zarya?

>>689145145
You're retarded if you actually think third wave feminism has no effect on the west. These fuckers are literally a hate mob that will bully anyone with dissenting opinions into falling in line, and they don't care how they do it. Their end goal seems to be akin to a total societal overthrow to make way for facism, which will probably never happen but damn are they trying.

>>689145145
i'm not whining dipshit. I'm saying they're whining about something that doesn't even matter! Its a fucking video game! A lesser sexualized one at that. What about dead or alive, not the volleball but the actual fighting game. No one raised concerns about that being sexualized. If you're not going to point it all out, especially not the worst stuff, don't point any of it out. That's what i'm trying to fuckin' say. Don't bitch about one game that isn't that bad about it, unless you're gonna call out something worse. I get its already out, but it just emphasizes that upon release of an earlier game that had sexualized content, they didn't care, so why care now all of a sudden? that part makes no sense.

>>689145067
yeah, obviously overwatch is such a competitive game you can play one-handed
reminds me of MOBA games damn

>>689145532
>>689145229
All betas are free but free version of TF2 is basically a demo, your backpack is tiny and you're pretty restricted until you buy something if I recall

>gamers mad that games cater to women
>gamers mad that games are easier for kids
>gamers mad that games are made for a larger audience
>gamers mad that games don't cater to their impossibly vague and unfocused standards
>gamers mad that their obsession is looked down upon by everyone else playing the game with them
>gamers don't realize that they're only a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of people the game caters to
this is why gamers are and will never be taken seriously.

Because there are "normies" ruining their precious unknown thing that they wanted to hide from the world, because gamers think they're owed more for their obsession over a game that wasn't even made with them in mind.

Games weren't made for gamers in mind in 1979, and they weren't made for gamers in mind in 2016.

>>689142894
look at fighting games like street fighter five and any arc system lately(guilty gear creators) they're all pretty easy to get into so it's kinda late to stop

>>689145774
I don't usually jerk and play video games at the same time. One distracts from the other.

>>689131195
Overwatch - it's not close to a decade old. Playing TF2 now feels clunky. And old.

>>689145589
>You're retarded if you actually think third wave feminism has no effect on the west.
>which will probably never happen

I don't even have to reply you kill your own fucking argument in one post. I should thank you for being so unfocused and stupid.

>>689145925
what do you think about what they did with soul caliburs fighting system? Gaurd crushing and all that? It certainly made the fighting more fast paced, and fights don't last nearly as long.

>>689132188
literally all I play is DS and overwatch these days

>>689145195
>implying he's the only large streamer

I can't believe someone is actually defending the gigantic hitboxes. I've never seen a more delusional fan base in my life. In the future games are just going to play themselves because of faggots like you who eat up this bullshit that is spoon fed to you.

You're right about one thing, it's not a regular FPS like the others. Literally every other FPS takes some level of skill. Sorry you paid for such a casual game, mang.

Nor have you discredited anything. Blizzard spends nearly $250 million a year on marketing whereas Battleborn, although having good reviews falls flat because very few people have heard about it. You literally have no argument other than "har ur buttblasted."

>>689133774
>steep learning curve


>whole team choose soldier 76
>continue to win 10 games in a row

Honestly, I don't care how well made it was, how polished it was, I find it fun so I am going to continue to play it.
If you find tf2 fun, then play tf2.
"But my game is better than yours wah wah wahh!!! stop liking what I don't like!" Yeah you're a faggot. If a game is fun, its fun. If you don't find it fun, don't play it. If you don't find it fun, then complain that it shouldn't be fun for anyone else, you're a steaming pile of shit that's been baking in the sun for too long.
Its fun, that's why we play.

TF2 > OW
why?
Hats

>>689146353
I heard of battleborn, I was mildly interested but never looked more into it since I didn't know what kind of game it was, by the way not who you replied to, just for clarification's sake.

TF2 is a slower placed game, both in terms of map time and fights. Overwatch is very twitchy with fights usually takings at most a dozen seconds. In TF2, it's more about playing the map well and having better performance than your opponents, while in overwatch it's more about being able to twitch aim better and playing to the strength of your comp/abilities.

They're both fine games. I personally prefer TF2 because stuff like airshots with projectiles is harder and more rewarding, and engineer and spy gameplay has more breadth that any one character from overwatch.

If I just have an hour though, I'm more inclined to play a few overwatch games with friends.

>>689146414
that's how it goes with tf2 though as well. Whole teams of heavy's or Demomen or Pyros. Pyros oh god Pyros. Fun stuff.

>>689138001
all you really have to do is run around and hold right click. Ppl shooting at you? dodge and continue to hold right click.

got a nerd near you, FB and continue to hold right click.

>>689146527
Yeah, the only ones who really heard about Battleborn are those who frequent the internet and keep up to date on that shit. The only things I've ever heard about Battleborn are from others on forums and whatnot, I'd not seen any advertisements. But I saw Overwatch advertisements literally fucking everywhere.

>>689141214 unless you do a magic build, then just use titanium catch pole until you get the moonlight greatsword. I could kill most bosses with 3-5 soul spears

>>689145883
People bitching about casuals aren't upset that casuals are playing an enjoying Overwatch. It comes from them dying to less skilled players in their own games.

Sometimes a guy just wants to jump around pwn noobs at 30:1. Fucking casuals switching to Winston and ruining the game for everyone.

>>689146893
*titanite

>>689146855
I think I saw one for Battleborn, I can't remember where, but as you just said that's just how it was. Battleborn looked kind of interesting. At first I thought it was overwatch then it said Battleborn, I was like hmm I want to learn more, but I don't know what kind of game it is in the first place.

>>689146909
Blizzard is masterful at this style of game design. Looking at Hearthstone as an example. There is so much RNG in Hearthstone, that no matter how masterfully you play there's a chance you'll still lose to bad RNG, sometimes starting as early as turn 1 or 2.

>>689146893
Yes soul spear is rape-magic at its best. I was a sunlight-fag. Praise the Sun! Lightning bolts everywhere bitches! Take it! Paladins are kind of fun too. I call Warriors of Sunlight paladins, since they seem the most like them.

>>689141934
false

>>689135658
Their backstory is literally a post apocalyptic Australian society of anarchists in the outback.
Its definitely a homage to Mad Max

>>689144651
I never noticed this but fuck I hate how she chews food. Why is she chewing like this? Did she get punched on the other side of her jaw and has to chew like a retard? We gotta get /sci/ to investigate this fuckery.

>>689147049
It's more MOBA like than objective based from what I understand. There are lanes and mobs and whatnot, so it's like a FPS DOTA or LoL.

>>689147356
Its kind of like smite with guns, better characters, and is more fun, with better everything.

>>689145883
Overwatch is great, fuck em.

>>689147049
Battleborn is a first-person MOBA. Technically it's fine, reviewers don't have much to complain about and generally like what they see, but it isn't as engaging as it needs to be.

>>689134354
Yeah. I bought it and just got a shitty hat after f2p.

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>>689135658

no, because our first exposure to post-apocalyptic motor dystopia wasn't in 2015. newfag.

>>689146198
I've only played soul cal 1 and I've been playing 4 but soul crush i feel is a good thing since it keeps everyone from blocking forever while i feel the blocking blocks too much it allows low skills to get into it easier while still giving it higher skill players priority because for low skills they take no damage while high skills if they break you its an auto win so it's not too gets you kinda used to not blocking and forces one to make a move. ive been playing and mvc2 and mk9 and chipping gets on my nerves especially from characters that can chip you to death,

sorry if i worded anything weird.

>>689147471
Games that are heralded as 'great' right out of the gate usually catch loads of flak later on. See "Overwatch" or "AC Unity". But games like Battleborn or even assassin's creed Syndicate were 'just fine' and they caught no flak from anyone. Starting to think that 'just fine' is code for 'actually pretty good'. Although AC really doesn't need a leveling system to further restrict what you can use.

>>689147723
"Someone didn't see the movie I liked and made a reference to its sequel that became recently incredibly popular instead of the original. Gotta call them a newfag because they're different than me!"

>>689147902
different and new, and fag

>>689147797
>assassin's creed caught no flak
nigger are you serious? It's notoriously glitchy and retarded.

>>689131669
Yup, that's a game

>>689147797
Just play them both or do research and make up your mind. personally I prefer OW

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>>689147797
AC Unity was heralded as "great"?

>>689147744
a little but I get you. 3 sometimes forced you to make a move by inflicting status ailments like poison or making the timer empty faster, and making you auto lose when it expired, even with more health. That said they had custom character weapons like kunai, which raped in my opinion, fast and could hit hard. Not sure if 3 got online support, I think 4 was the first. 5 irked me cause a lot of characters got retired from the game, some got replaced with clones, but others were just taken out completely, Zasalamel was one of them.

>>689131195
Overwatch doesn't have a community besides the tryhards yet. It's too new.

TF2 has many different communities already established. You can expect to see tryhards, pros, traders, friendlies, new kids, and shitlords. It's hard to tell the difference between new kids and shitlords but if you want a better description, think of shitlords as people that play Overwatch because they think it's a better TF2 :^)

Seriously, if you play a game, do it because you enjoy it. Not because everyone else is and you're a boring, unoriginal faggot. You won't become internet famous for doing it either, since everyone famous is already streaming the shit out of that game.. so don't even waste your time.

>>689147797
AC Unity really was just decent. It wasn't really anything special, though it was pretty glitchy in a LOT of places and had some serious issues.
Same with Battleborn. Its different than a lot of the stuff out there, and is pretty decent. It probably won't get that popular until the super-hype train from Overwatch calms down, which may not happen for a while.

>>689148160
No no, you're right actually. Sorry it was hyped as great is what I meant to say. either way I meant it was supposed to be this awesome game that was great and then upon launch had many problems right out the gate.

>>689148169
Zasalamel was my fucking jam, man. And Mitsurugi controlled the best in three, as well, in my opinion. He felt more free flowing, easier to play, and more satisfying to hit with.
Voldo in 3 was probably the most "Smash your controller to win" he's ever been in the series.

>>689145883
You sound like a feminist, assuming all that shit about people. Just thought I'd let you know, It's also possible to have negative criticism about something you like. Nothing is perfect. Perhaps you should learn what a "meme" and a "troll" are. It might help you be a little less upset when people spew their autistic nonsense.. like you are right now. Anyways, enjoy the game, or don't. No one cares but you.

>>689148215
I never played Unity, almost gave up on Assassin's Creed because of ubi's stupid way of doing things, but Syndicate sort of saved it.

>>689148618
I kind of got sad and stopped after 3 because I loved Nolan North as a voice actor and kind of saw the story as going downhill after the death of what's his face. Picked up black flag, the combat in that was pretty fun. That's the last one i've played though.

>>689143120
Never played WoD then. That was shit out.

>>689148487
definitely with the voldo mashing. Mitsurugi is always my jam, no matter what. Badass samurai with no equal for the win. Still use him now in 5, but still hating the absence of Zas. Cervantes and Raphael still exist, but i'm always a Mitsu man. Ivy is still as large-chested as ever, but now that i'm older I can get over it, honestly she can be replaced by a short, flat girl, like taki was.

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>>689148401
With Overwatch, everyone in the beta was singing its praises. Then 9 million people played the open beta and saw for themselves, then 7 million of them turned around and bought the game afterward. Then it gets 92% average review scores, the 9th top reviewing PC game ever, with the only complaints being that there isn't enough of it and they don't like buying lootboxes.

That's a slightly different heralding than AC Unity got.

>>689148602
nothing is assumed, it is a sad fact that you must one day wake up and realize about this hobby you call gaming.

>>689148169
my friend plays baki(ninja girl from one?) so he doesn't like 5 i asked my friends which would be better 4 or 5 my friend said 5 if i play customs and didn't care about any of the retired characters so i chose 4 since it had some characters that i like that got retired in 5 and it also had apprentice which i found fun when trying out the game on his ps3. soulcal 3 i played a little but all i remember is that gc version had link in it. status ailments i feel a little mixed on cause i feel that balancing for those is kinda odd or difficult like amount of time it will last and amount of damage and how it will be inflicted and if it will be a chance of ailment or not

>>689149105
Sorry, read the chart wrong. 34th best reviewed for PC.

>>689148935
wait nolan north was in that game?! Who? Siegfried?

>>689149250
No, Assassin's Creed. Bit of a mix up there bro.

>>689131195
Overwatch:
>pretty
>has nice asses
>flashy skills
>21 heroes who dont really talk much besides skill shouts and few emotes
>skins(some are really nice)
>POTG
>voting at the end
>few taunts
>sprays
>a few maps
>2 gamemodes (not sure?)
>leveling and lootcrates(some people play only for that)
TF2:
> IT'S FUCKING FREE!
>9 classes
>their own personalities and different realations with each other
>every class (except pyro) has alot of voice lines
>every class has different primary, secondary and melee weapons (most of them have skins and some of them have unusual efects)
>strange weapons (counts kills and other stuff if you add strange parts (headshot kills for example))
>shit load of hats and cosmetics (with a chance of being unusual)
>a shit load of taunts and some that can kill
>every weapon can be found by playing the game
>hats can also be found
>6 game modes (+ beta modes, + custom)
>coop vs robots
>a lot of maps
>steam workshop subimissions(everyone can create items and let community vote)
>you can choose avatar pic, name, spray with no restrictions (you can even spray gifs)
I'm sure i missed something, feel free to add. I prefer TF2, although i have tried Overwatch while in beta. Both are very fun, tf2 is more diverse, ovrwtch is prettier and looks better. But in the end gameplay is what matters for me.
And what about you, anon?

>>689149318
Oh! Gotcha, I didn't mind that honestly, he's better as Nathan Drake anyway. Edward's a favorite of mine, he was pretty badass.

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>>689149532
also best Uncharted is Uncharted 2.

>>689149138
I'm not sure why you're referring to me, as if I were a part of this imaginary clique, you speak of. I'm pretty sure you're just making shit up, because that's how poorly you are expecting humanity to behave. From what I've seen, there's two communities in Overwatch. There's the serious players and there's the newbs, who don't know what the fuck is going on or how anything works. If you mean the serious players are this cancerous mid-2000s "pro-gamer" group, that's approximately 60% of the current user base, since it's still a new game.

But seriously, I have NO IDEA what you're talking about and it comes off as rambling, like a Feminist barking about the patriarchy that died decades ago.

>>689149779
way to capture the mood of this thread in a single stroke. "bored but something is going on"

>>689131195
both are fucking cancer.

>>689131195
Both

>>689147723
You sound like a pretentious faggot you probably drink bottled water.

>>689150256
>he doesn't drink bottled water
>he trusts the government
>he's fine with being poisoned and having a stunted brain development
Well, this answers a lot more than I was wondering, but alright. Thanks for sharing?

Tracer looks like a dude from one direction fags

>>689133460
>old /b/ was good
No it wasn't, it's anyways been filled with cancer after the f2p update.

>>689149882
not same guy but community got cancer/bad autism fast pro gamers are fine and shit but stuff like memes and blizzard boys flocking to defend it's flaws, and 90% people praising it as this godly game that could do no wrong.

>>689147230
Sunbro was definitely one of my favorite builds. Healing, a cool sign, and lightning bolts. Throwing lightning bolts like you're Zeus on fucking steroids and angel dust. Good times

>>689150534
Not same guy but god that's fucking autistic as shit. Please be joking. I only beta tested.

>>689132188
Hell yeah my man

>>689150580
aw yeah. I always made sure I had Solaire available as a summon. Just as a loyalty thing. Dude was a boss in monte python lookin' armor.

>>689150883
Hellz yeah he was. Pretty useful against Gwyn too

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>tfw you bought TF2 a month before it went free to play

>>689150637
a lot of games suffer from cancerous fan bases or cancerous players. When something is too popular it gets that way.

>>689142894
They already have those and they're called movies faggot

>>689151064
Genocide when?

>>689151014
Oh yeah tank all the damage while I whale on him buffing my body with power within and my sword with sunlight blade, or even better darkmoon blade . One of my characters was a godlike Darkmoon Blade build.

>>689150637
it's usually "normies" and shit especially in review sites, youtube, etc. but some are tame. it's more a vocal minority honestly though theres some in here.

no im not saying this is a bad game but there are flaws that some are willing to ignore and saying it's okay, saw the video on headshot hitboxes and don't get why people are defending that you can hit people you can't see just by them standing on the corner

>>689151199
well I hate to say it but Undertale's fanbase is so cancerous no one wants to play it unless they're already a fan, in which case they're super cancerous.

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>>689151064
Fall fandoms are terrible. Some more than others, but never kid yourself. There are idiots who like the same things you do, and they outnumber you.

>>689151422
met some decent people who like it but admit its a flawed game, it's the ones that say its good and/or original that are cancer

>>689151518
I know I hate it too...I didn't want to admit it but god damn, some people just suck.

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>>689144519
>implying D.VA Is best girl
Mei is Bae.

>>689151588
well its like I said before, all games could be made better. All games. There are no exceptions to that statement. Even games I love to play could be better, but I like them enough that I don't care much about their shortcomings and sometimes even like them for certain reasons.

>>689136061
Does nobody here play ds for the huge hiden lore and the the story and the beautiful setting it is in? Or just cos internet hyped it to be hard

>>689151945
Mei is the only one that reads "adorable" versus "hot" which I kind of like. She's likeable for more than a body. She's thicc, but she's also kind of hot, and adorable.

>>689147797
What's it like in that little bubble universe of yours?

>>689152074
I fuckin' love the hidden lore behind dark souls! I love the way that From sort of makes you piece it together, or even just make assumptions. Like the empty chest in Gwyn's tomb. Why is it there? What is its purpose? What does it mean? I love that stuff.

>>689152007
i see your point but anything could be made better but not all games are made well for example i think it was alien colonial marines and dukenukem forever which were games basically just made badly for some money and they were just passed around alot

>>689152282
beg pardon? Look dude, I never assume a game is going to be good. Until I play it. for years I disliked Uncharted, until I played it, and thought it was pretty good.

>>689152430
I also said something similar earlier. Not all games have the same degree to which they could have been better. Some were good, but could have been better, while some were bad, and could have been better.