>>689066631
I assume your from Europe....enjoying the Muslims, buddy?

>>689066912
You stupid Americans act like every other person is a muslim immigrant. Truth is though I dont notice any more muslims than I ever had. And regardless I would rather have muslims than a bunch of gun toting retards shooting everything up.

we have it dumb ass. we just have jobs were we get paid enough and taxes low enough to buy it
we dont need "daddy" to get us health insurance

>>689067550
>gets so triggered by the picture he doesn't read the post

That was not the worst event. This one? It gave me the skurrs
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/06/yellowstone-disaster-man-falls-into-acid-hot-springs-body-completely-dissolves-springs-getting-hotter-videos-3367504.html

>>689066631
One simply does't play rock, paper, scissors, gun and live to tell about it

>>689067281

>I would rather have muslims than a bunch of gun toting retards shooting everything up.

eurocucks are so cucked they can't even admit that muslims are responsible for 90% of the mass killings on earth

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>>689068260
Kek

>>689066631

It actually seems to be working fairly well.

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>>689066631
>yfw: by most any nation's crime statistics, blunt objects such as bats, hammers, and ROCKS, are used to kill more people than guns are, and yes even in America.

>>689066631

She wanted fame; she has it, more fame dead that she ever would have had alive.

Guy with a rock had it coming. One fewer rock wielding maniac on the loose, terrorizing out nation's airports.

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Europoor getting raped by muslims and tries to diss out the most powerful country in the world.

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>>689069300
No fucking shit, sand niggers don't know how to operate guns and thus can only use stoning like Muhammad told them.

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>>689069990
Crime statistics.... People are far more likely to beat someone to death than they are to shoot them.... Look it up!

>>689069504
>hasn't got a fucking clue about the makeup of demographics in Europe, nor the places, crime rates or any idea about Muslims in Europe, other than what has been said on faux news
>makes comments suggesting America is safer

>>689066631
But the rock was dangerously jagged

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>>689069300
>>yfw: by most any nation's crime statistics, blunt objects such as bats, hammers, and ROCKS, are used to kill more people than guns are, and yes even in America.

Nice, but unfortunately, complete bullshit.

Pic taken directly from the FBI's own homicide data available online.

Firearms: 8,500 to 10,000 homicides.
Knives: 1,500 to 1,800
blunt objects, 500 to 650.

and before you say "hurr! Suicides!", no, Suicides are NOT included in the homicide data, they are an entirely different report category, and there are a further 28,000 to 30,000 suicides by firearm every year.

>>689066631
sure kid. now fuck off

>>689067919
true, the picture triggered me

>>689068412
>>689069504
>keeps talking about muslims

You Americans are so fucking retarded. As I already said. I dont notice any more muslims than I used to. Plus these muslims aren't causing any problems so what does it matter? Fucking retards

In Australia, we've seen our murder rate decline healthily, thanks in big part to getting rid of guns. We've seen our gun crime rate drop significantly since the gun buyback. We've had no mass shootings.

And for everyone who says 'Hurr durr but criminals still get them' let me tell you this.
A gun that costs ~$1000 in the US costs over $30,000 on the black market. And it's the fucking black market. Aspie kids, disgruntled ex husbands and wives or insane people can't just rock up and expect to buy a gun.

And after all that, our public is now so used to the lack of guns, and gun control is so tight, that anyone carrying a gun anywhere is cause for distress. You even look like you have a gun, the police will be there immediately.

The police shot a retard the other day, injuring him and a few others and it made national news. That's how much we think gun use is unnecessary. It's changed our society where we don't want to kill each other.

We're a very multi-cultural place you'll find and yet for the most part people live in harmony - without guns.

And before you say 'well Australia doesn't have black people like America' - the fact is we have black people, it's just that they're not quite as demonised as they are in the US, and we don't use untrue, racist statistics to try and prove a point.

I actually don't care if you want a gun. I know a few people who own guns here. But don't pretend like it's for security or whatever. You like guns, that's it. Some of you have secret sadistic thoughts about killing some cunt who breaks into your house, but overall you just like guns. That's it. No security (do you also own 5 padlocks or safes?), no 'well-organise militia' (seriously, the government has drones - you use this shit as an excuse after the fact, no-ones going 'you know what, maybe one day the government will go bad, I'll get a gun just in case')

America: the place where you can get shot walking down the street for no other reason than somebody else was 'bored'

Let's cherry pick two incidents out of a population of 318 million.....

>>689067550
>we have it dumb ass. we just have jobs were we get paid enough and taxes low enough to buy it

And yet 10% of the US' entire population in 2014-15 were unable to afford healthcare.

1 in 10


Sort of undermines you "we get paid enough" claim.

(and that's before you look at the 45 million people, or 14.5 percent of all Americans, who live below the poverty line according to the Census Bureau...)

>>689071581
>Australia
You sure have a lot of mass stabbings though, maybe you should get rid of knives also

>>689071797
Dont act like there isnt a gun violence issue in the states.

>>689071411
But... MOOSLIMBS!

MOOSELIMBS! you must be getting raped by them constantly, while they rampage through Yoorup pillaging. I saw it on Fox News....

Did I scream about muslims enough yet?

>>689071895
Right? I dont know why americans like to act like their healthcare system isnt ridiculously flawed. These faggots are lucky they got a president who shined light on the issue.

>>689071983
>You sure have a lot of mass stabbings though,

yes, one event in 2014 is "a lot".

You know it helps to actually check facts *before* you start talking, it makes you look less of an idiot when the things you are saying are blatantly inaccurate, even with just a cursory check.

>>689071983
>mass stabbings

Really grasping for straws now arent you

>>689072555
you could say its a wild stab in the dark...

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>>689071983
Wtf are you talking about? Is one in two years 'a lot'? How many mass shootings have you had just this past year?

It never ceases to amaze me how many things the pro-gun types come out with, without ever actually checking if its true.

like >>689070133
>Crime statistics.... People are far more likely to beat someone to death than they are to shoot them.... Look it up!

Followed a few moments later by >>689070584
Where someone DOES look it up, and proves them wrong.

Its quite incredible.

>>689073700
It's conservative rednecks. They're fucking uneducated. They heard their similarly uneducated Cunt friend tell them that some commentator on faux news said that people are more likely to bash other people and so they use that as a fact.

Conservatives in general don't understand how facts and the truth work, they just believe what they want to believe. If someone lies to their face, and that lie is obvious based on statistics and factual evidence, they'll still believe the lie if it lines up with their own belief system

>>689073411
>this past year

Year?
this past month.
73 injured, 15 killed from 17th May to today, alone in the US.

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>>689066631
All done by people who weren't allowed to have guns while in gun-free zones. Possibly by niggers.

>>689067281
isnt that the same thing though?

>>689071411
You are the reason Europe is screwed.

You claim to not be noticing more muslims yet statistics tell a very different story.

You would rather live under Sharia than be surrounder have the freedom to defend yourself... typical yuropoor.

>>689071411
>Muslims not causing problems.

You people are beyog brainwashed.

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>>689075208
let me guess, you think the solution is that everyone should have guns, everywhere, all the time?

>>689070189
Typical liberal, dismiss facts by accusing the person stating them of watching "faux newz".

>>689074132
i bet you think killing babies is about a woman's rights to "her own body"
whatever you think, its the liberals who approve of the biggest genocide in human history. about 5 times higher numbers than the holocaust. that alone makes me want to be a republican, but it doesnt matter either way.
america's politics are completely broken. donald trump is the only presidential candidate you might be able to trust because he cant be bribed as he has paid for his campaign out of his own pocket.

but even then, donald doesnt seem like he'll help much.

>>689066631
oh look, another eurocuck who obsesses over the united states because his country hasn't done anything in nearly two hundred years.

go buy another scarf, faggot.

>>689075881
Looks to me like there's more Americans killing other Americans than there are Muslims killing Americans...

But hey, that's just the statistics, right?

>>689071411
Why are you so mad?

>>689066631
Im in Orlando right now, not really phased by her death.

>>689076133
Huh? What facts? The FBIs own data proves that significantly less people are bashed to death with a blunt object than killed with guns.

You're the one dismissing the facts you uneducated imbecile.

Or did John from down the road tell you, and Johns totally a local highway patrol member, so he totally knows

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>>689067281
Give it 10 years, and every other person WILL be a Muslim immigrant. Sure, maybe some of them are acting nicely now (not most of them), but once they are a majority they will drop the act and put your ass in the ground.

ISLAM IS ABOUT CONQUERING. STOP THINKING THIS ISN'T TRUE JUST BECAUSE ITS THE CURRENT YEAR.

>>689075881
there's a beautiful irony to the fact that _you're_ the ones who have been utterly brainwashed by the media into a sort of hysterical terror that the Red Menace®, er, sorry, wrong decade, I meant the Muslim Peril™ are going to destroy the Free World™


Yes, there are some Muslims who are cunts.
But the fact you scream like utter bitches, convinced they're all going to leap for a suicide vest is utterly comical.

>>689076275
well that's just not fair. if muslims were waging war on american soil we would have a different story. islam is the worst religion in the world anyway. have you ever read the quran? its terrible

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>>689076186

do you people even try any more

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>>689076186
>i bet you think killing babies is about a woman's rights to "her own body"

Oh, here we go... 'Murrica Logic...

>>689076349
me too, lol. Had no idea who it is.

>>689076559
so very right whered you come from?

>>689076186
No I don't condone killing babies, but I have no issue with a woman taking some cells out of her body if that's what she wants to do.

I don't know what supposed genocide you're talking about that's liberal-driven but whatever.

Trump can be bribed just as much as anyone. Trump's main interest is Trump. He cares about making more money for himself above anything else.

>>689076275
You realize that it is a mathematical inevitability that western Europe will be Islamic within a generation right? How is living under Sharia not a problem?

The problem with muslim crime is far more prevalent in Europe given their much higher muslim population. Nice attempt at straw manning me though.

>>689071581
australia is not, nor will it ever be, the united states.

you're known for crocodile dundee, that other guy who kinda looked like crocodile dundee but got killed by a stingray, and kangaroos. that's it.

comparing the united states to australia is like comparing apples to apple-shaped turds.

>>689071581
I totally agree on this.

>>689076673
Religion is fucked. You can't cherry-pick Islam. What about Christianity? Judaism? Plenty of atrocities happening in the name of those religions right now, but we don't care because most Christians and Jews are white whilst most Muslims are brown

Have you ever read the bible? There's some fucked ip things in that too. You can't say the bible is 'for interpretation' and then take the Qu'ran literall

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>>689076826
I lived in Dearborne, Michigan. The Eurocucks have no idea what's coming. Once the Muslims bring their families in and triple or quadruple their population, maybe then they will "notice a few more of them."

I'm so sick of people jumping through hoops to defend an ideology that condones stoning people, whipping women for driving, and throwing gay guys off of buildings. FUCK ISLAM.

>>689076544
I'm talking about islamic crime in europe. Don't know what the hell you are going on about.

>>689076815
have you ever seen a "partial birth abortion"? you knew this was coming. people become desensitized and so they move on to something worse. how about third trimester abortions? you just dont care. but you know the reality. people kill their children because they think theyre a burden

>>689077259
It isn't "cherrypicking" to point out that Islam is responsible for more atrocities Han any other religion by far.

>>689077044
'Muhh sharia law'
'Halal is a death cult'

Seriously turn the fucking TV off from time to time. Or maybe turn off fox news

>>689077369
how about killing people for leaving the religion? theres no escaping islam. its like slavery. and all of this is in the quran. how people deny it is beyond me

>>689077062
And the United States will forever be known for the needless death of innocent men, women and children it causes due to its need to compensate for its erectile problems with as many guns as possible

>>689077787
Please, show me how historically, Islam is the worst religion.

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>>689070584
How dare you bring facts to a Gun-related argument?!

>>689071581
>racist
>statistics

pick one dude because I'm 100% sure numbers can't be racist.

>>689077808
I don't watch any TV. You can't just dismis a legitimate concern by typing "muh" in front of it.

Let me spell this out for you in a way that even a liberal can understand. When you import millions of people who admit to supporting Sharia law with sky high birthrates they eventually vote in their preferred system of government... that's how democracy works.

>>689077369
Those are all things the bible condones. Let's stop Christians from migrating here as well while we're at it

>>689078363
You saying its 'legitimate' does not make it so.

Your irrational fear and bigotry does not make something real.

>>689078173
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

please understand

>>689077369
You've never been to Europe, have you?

Americans sitting at home talking about the world like they own a passport is amusing

All these amerifats talking about muslims when there are more amerifats killed in a month by other retard amerifats than europeans by muslims in 10 years

Stay retarded usa

>>689078560
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

>>689078173
I'm on my phone and I'm not gonna bother digging up sources to prove something so obvious to a liberal whose intense cognitive dissonance won't allow him to absorb the facts anyway. You are free to do your own research on the subject, if you do you will find that the death toll of Islam far outweighs even the most exaggerated numbers from other faiths.

>>689078372
well the israelites sure killed a lot of people. but anyone who knows the teachings of Jesus Christ knows that its not about killing nonbelievers but about loving them even as they kill us. different time different covenant. both testaments are fitting for their time

>>689078770
Truth

>>689077044
>You realize that it is a mathematical inevitability that western Europe will be Islamic within a generation right?

Yes. if 2+2 = 22

In any part of Europe where reality, rather than Fox News Hysteria exists, however, the facts are rather different.

Lets take the UK, because the census figures are in English, and so less hassle to translate.

In 2001, 71.6 of the UK population, 42 million people were Christian.
In the #2 position, with 13.6 million, or 23.2%, were atheists.
Muslims consisted of 2.7 million people, 4.4% of the population.

ten years later, the last census,

in 2011, 59% of the UK population, 33.2 million people were Christian.
In the #2 place were atheists - 20.7 million people, 32.8% of the population.
Muslims consisted of 1.6 million, 2.7 percent.

So, Muslims increased by just under 1 million, a rise of 1.7%
Atheists, meanwhile, increased by 7.1 million, a rise of 9.4%.

So, Atheists increased in numbers at a rate nearly 5.5 times that of Muslims....

And you are convinced that "it is a mathematical inevitability that western Europe will be Islamic within a generation"?

I'm convinced you are a fucking retard, who has no clue what reality is.

>>689078558
You're proposing I have an irrational fear of a political ideology... think about that for a minute...

>>689067281
American gun nuts ARE the new terrorists.

>>689079080
Please, see this verse:

>>689078924

The point is, there are just as awful things in the bible as the Qu'ran. You can't say 'oh yeah but the bible is different because different times and it's not literal and love love love' and then say the Qu'ran is set in stone and must be taken literally.

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>politics thread
No, this is a Blaziken thread

>>689079043
Sorry but I disagree, and I've done the research.
Feel free to try and prove me wrong though

>>689079171
>He doesn't take birthrates into account.

Are you familiar what atheist birthrates are compared to that of Muslims? I also like how you neglected to take into account the massive influx of migrants that have come in post 2011.

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>implying we have a gun problem

>>689079657
>implying a census doesn't take birth rates into account

Are you 13 years old? Do you even know what a fucking census is?

Or are you suggesting that in the 10 years 2001-2010 no Muslims were born, but since there's been millions??

>>689079171
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO'S SMART HERE

>>689079368
ive seen how violent the old testament is. i cant even imagine the scene for some of these verses. i think its unhealthy though for Christians to ignore them. I understand the way you feel as ive felt the same way before, but the truth is, theres a time and place for all these things. if you read in to the religions of some of Israels neighbors you'll find that they were pretty much the most terrible human beings to walk the earth. israelites even ended up killing their children at times because the children would have only risen up later to avenge their fathers. it was just constant bloodshed and its hard to understand or even fathom why.

>>689078770
Ha.

>>689079482
You don't know a lot about the history of Islam do you... like the fact that islamic imperialism has conquered more than 60 countries, the massive islamic slave trade that went on for 1400 years, dwarfing the slavery practiced by white people or Christians, what muslims did to non-muslims whenever they conquered a new territory.

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>>689079394
no charizard dick?
fuck you

>>689079482
You're a faggot

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>>689080144
Here's a bit of one.

>>689077044
> How is living under Sharia not a problem?

You dont seem to know what sharia law is.

Let me explain. I'll use crayon for you.

the law, in the UK is split into two sections: Civil, and Crown. Civil law is stuff like private lawsuits, marriages, that sort of stuff. Crown law is what you'd consider criminal offences. Murder, broken laws, etc.

Civil law includes provision that the people having the litigation may opt to use their own laws, if BOTH parties consent. This has meant that there has been a Jewish court of law, he Beth Din, which observes the exact laws of the Torah, in london, since the 1950's.
The same provision allows Sharia if both parties wish. It also allows wicca. or other pagan laws, or anything else the two parties wish to abide by. Just like the Beth Din.
If two businessmen want to settle a deal by the terms of their traditional law, they can. If a couple wish to marry, or divorce, according to their faith's law, they can.

That applies as much to islam, as jews... And I dont see you screaming about how the Jews are taking over.

Crown law, for a court case for murder, or speeding or tax evasion, or whatever, The person's choice of law is irrelevant. Be it sharia, beth din, pagan, whatever... they can go sit on a post and swivel. The law is the British Crown Law.

So, no, "sharia law" is not "Taking over", any more than Jewish Law is. Or Pagan Law.

And the fact you do not know what it is, and what context it is going on, simply shows that you are a hysterical fantasist imagining the terrible threat that does not exist.

>>689079908

>he doesn't realize growth rates are not linear
>he thinks, despite higher birthrates, it will not increase
>calls others children

I bet you're voting to stay.

>>689079908
The growth of atheism is mostly due to Europeans abandonin Christianity, not that atheists have higher birthrates (they dont). And you still totally neglected the fucking migrant crisis that began after 2011.

>>689080108
How can you say there was a time and place for all these Christian things, but not the Qu'ran? It's important Christians don't just ignore the Old Testament, but Muslims must ignore the Qu'ran for us to accept them?

>>689076820
Someone I'm friends on facebook with knew her

>>689080492
>dismisses facts and statistics based on his own idea of how he thinks the world works

You know what, you can assert whatever you want, but unless the facts and statistics back it up, it's nothing more than a lie.
I can say I think the earth is flat, but unless I can find some sort of evidence to support the truth of it, it makes it nothing more than an unproven theory.

>>689080563
well the difference is that the quran and its laws arent split into two different sections. the quran's violent laws apply just as much today as they ever have.

now if the muslims had a "new" section with different laws that arent terribly violent, then it could be compared to christianity i think.

>>689080431
Are you MIDF or something? When the fastest growing demographic in a country supports Sharia law they will eventually get it because they will have the voting power to vote it in.

>>689080971
Fact: Muslims are the fastest growing demographic in Europe.
Fact: Most muslims support Sharia law.
Fact: European countrie are democracies.

>>689067281

>implying Muslims are not gun toting retards

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>>689079657
>I also like how you neglected to take into account the massive influx of migrants that have come in post 2011.

this is very true.

with the #1 nation of immigrants to the UK being white, Catholic Poles with 13% of all immigrants, the #2 nation being White catholic and protestant Irish being 9% of the immigrants, and Hindu Indians being #3 on the UK immigration list, with 8% of all immigrants, that does indeed mean that the massive influx of migrants post-2011 will in fact have LOWERED the percentage of muslims in the country, compared to the percentages of Christian, and Hindu residents.

Thank you for noting that discrepancy.

Image source: Office for National statistics.

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>>689067281
I am from Europe.
>I dont notice any more muslims
ever heard of internet/TV/News? More stupid than you, not possible
>I would rather have muslims
pic related
>>689078763
i "have". your small mind is simply amused by things you don't get

>>689081512
This anon is killing it today.

Thank you for bringing reason and statistics into the cesspool that is this website.

>>689081126
But how can you say that? You're assuming they use the Qu'ran in the same way you use the bible. But unless you're a Muslim, how can you possibly know that?

>>689081137
>Are you MIDF or something?

No, I'm someone who isnt a drooling retard, screaming in mass hysteria at the bogeyman under the bed, like you.

>When the fastest growing demographic in a country

Atheists?

> supports Sharia law

Ah. there's your problem. You cant actually read facts, like >>689079171 and instead leap to conclusions based on the bullshit you've been drip-fed by your media.

Muslims are not the fastest growing demographic. Atheists have increased in number by 5.5 times as many.
Furthermore, Atheists outnumber Muslims 10 to 1. Christians outnumber Atheists 3 to 2.

You have no grasp of the reality at all.

>>689080563
anyway thanks for hearing me out. keep asking questions and youll keep learning. i hope you find what youre looking for.

>>689081368
Apart from those being really long bows to draw, please show your evidence of both a) & b)

>>689081512
Link it

>>689082002
Hi muhammed

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>>689082002
MFW I read the stuff these muppets are writing....

I cant help but just open up all the sources of data and bitch-slap them.

>>689082179
>Can't retort with data, statistics or facts
>retorts with tired meme

>>689082139
have fun:

http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration

you'll find that the Poles, Irish, Indians, and Romanians (this year) are all way ahead of the Pakistanis, yet alone any other Muslim nation, in immigration.

>>689082005
i found this online and i think it kind of answers some questions.

"Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran."

its just kind of ridiculous for muslims to think they follow the laws of the quran without being an islamic "extremist". now i do see that there are muslims in the united states who were born here and are pretty much not at all a threat. but that doesnt mean islam itself is not bad. if you look at the way muslims live in the middle east, you will find some of the answers you seek. i only know so much about this

>>689078305
Dont be stupid. You can twist statistics in any way you want to.

>>689080431
You seem to be missing the distinction in between contracts in between private parties (legal in every single Western country) and arbitration which is what is being allowed here and must be shot down eventually as contradicting the law of the land as no one can cede fundamental rights, much less so under pressure by a social group. Since Sharia must by necesity discriminate against women many of the rulings in arbitration would break statutes passed by parliament. It's only extreme political correctness by the government that has allowed this charade to go on but eventually appeals must bring to light this nonsense. Sharia is not compatible with liberal democracy and this is the opinion of Muslim countries themselves who have stated so in the Cairo declaration.

This is all leaving aside you seem to have missed the point a majority of British Muslims do believe they should be allowed to rule themselves by Sharia, a first step in creating jurisdictions that will eventually affect even non-Muslims and, eventually, demanding nationwide laws compatible with their principles. Once the Muslim population grows large enough unrest must follow, and at this point no other solution will be posiblle but compromise. Little by little they will insinuate their mores and values on the rest...

>>689082528
of course they cant respond with facts. THey havent got a leg to stand on.

Just like they didnt have a leg to stand on when the statistics on US firearms deaths were presented to them, their only response is to pretend that reality isnt happening, and start caying that you're a muslim, or I'm "MIDF" because I told them what sharia law was in the context of national laws....

Incidentally, I suppose I should blow his tiny mind: There are Sharia Law Courts active in New Jersey, Texas and Michigan.

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>>689079776
You do have a gun problem though. This graph doesn't show otherwise...

Muslems are the scum off the Earth, simply watch that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIhRQ7nIesk

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>>689070584
>>689066631
>>689067281

Yeah, we're not getting rid of the Second Amendment faggot.

Eurocucks sure are interested in seeing Americans lose their rights. Now why would they be so concerned?

>>689083714
I didn\t say anything about guns.

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>>689070584
Yet the numbers have gone down every year....

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>>689071581
>We've seen our gun crime rate drop significantly since the gun buyback

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>>689083154
You seem to be missing the distinction between "if both parties consent", and not.

>This is all leaving aside you seem to have missed the point a majority of British Muslims do believe they should be allowed to rule themselves by Sharia,

You seen to have missed the point that they comprise of under 3 million people in a nation with a population of 60+ million.

Unless there is a freak meteorite shower, which, instead of leaving everyone blind, leaves them all sterile, while the Muslims all happened to be sleeping blindfolded, I think the chances of they somehow managing to produce 50 million children in the space of the next 10 years is pretty unlikely. They'd probably not be causing much trouble if they did, on grounds of being too shagged out to do so.

And that also ignores the fact that indian, jamaican, irish, and other ethnic minorities have repeatedly shown over the years that 2nd and 3rd generation children of immigrants are no different to other demographics. The 1st generation offspring are the ones who are a risk, because they have a habit of falling into extremism as they are trying to follow "their roots", and latch onto the batshit crazies. 2nd and 3rd gen kids dont seem to do that, from previous examples.

So, again, you are making hysterical generalisations, and pretty much painting this to be entirely different to reality.

Which is pretty unsurprising, given I rather bet that you've never even lived in any of these parts of Europe which you're convinced are about to become some sort of muslim apocalypse.

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>>689083367
You're talking about Sharia as it exists in the west at the present. When muslims are the majority expect that to change.

>>689084261
sure all lefties, muslems and bernies are fapping right now. oh they love it

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>>689083006
>how muslims live in the middle east

Like this?

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>>689083714
>You do have a gun problem though
We have a nigger problem

>>689083564
Oh dear. well those figures are pretty sobering.

If accurate, that means that, in the UK, the 50 million non-muslims will have 1.8 children on average, while the 2.5 million muslims will have 2.5 children on average.

Yes. This is clearly going to see muslims "take over" within a generation.

Mathematical FACKT, I tell y'all....

>>689084349
You are surely retarded right? Your post literally does say stuff about guns

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>>689084616
Sure britbong.

>>689078924
Not understanding that the Old Testament is not practiced and that the symbolism of Jesus Christ dying on the cross ment that the old ways of the Old Testament are viod.

>>689084776
THEY'RE GUNNA TAKE OVER, I TELLS YER!

Jesus H Christ failed to a fucking stick, you're one seriously paranoid motherfucker, arent you?
They media and its mass hysteria has really got its hooks in deep to your brain, and you're completely convinced that these evil Mooslim Gnatzees are going to be taking you to the gas chamber or something, after a Sharia Trial, right?

Jesus. You need to get fucking help. Hell, just switch off your TV and stop listening to that crap. its rotting your brain.

>>689084481
Different anon but picking one point to fault doesn't make the rest incorrect.
Also, the scale is different. Proportionally the US does have a higher rate of homicides in general and there are also differences in demographics. These two countries cannot be compared in the same way.
So just because data for Australia points no difference in crime rate, nor crime rate in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

>itt a bunch of americans try to turn a thread about their gun issue around into some fictional muslim issue in Europe

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>689066631
Was the guy with a rock black?
If so its deserved

>>689085638
I wasn't comparing the two, I was showing how the gun ban did fuck all to the murder rate

There's no comparison in my pic

>>689082015
1.5 billion Muslims worldwide. They outbreed us 8 to 1 and you think atheists are the future? Ok man. Whatever.

>>689076559
This

Are all Americans so afraid of other ethnicities?

>>689085660
Clearly, its because the Europeens hate our freedumbs, or something.

Not that they might be paranoid, afraid, and obsessed with the Outsider Threat

Back in the 60's and 70's and 80's it was the "commie" threat, that was going to destroy Freedom. But now the soviets collapsed, they've had to manufacture a new threat to keep the populace afraid and paranoid, and this one's even bigger - 2 billion Freedom-hating brown-skinned muslims who're going to rape their children and take away the guns...

Its laughable, if it wasnt so predictable.

>>689085981
Considering how diverse America is, I'd say no

What other nation openly welcomes in immigrants from all parts of the world?
Europe is taking in Muslims, but America is taking in everyone

>>689086097
yeah mudlums kill and rape themselevs and are moving into europe.

IE see Europe in 20 years compared to america in 1950s -> now via niggers

>>689085597
Yeah im just paranoid. https://plus.url.google.com/url?sa=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bayerische-staatszeitung.de%2Fstaatszeitung%2Fkommunales%2Fdetailansicht-kommunales%2Fartikel%2Fdramatischer-appell.html&uct=1463685874&usg=8ei5bsyNlqHuax8lTnHs2krQ4Wg.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/5994047/Muslim-Europe-the-demographic-time-bomb-transforming-our-continent.html

>>689085660
What gun issue?

8,000 firearm homicides a year in a country with hundreds of millions of guns and hundred of millions of people doesn't sound that bad to me

>>689086526
And it is mostly niggers killing niggers.

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>>689085660
Why do you give a fuck about US gun laws?

Your cuckhold inadequacy is showing.

>>689085981
Not afraid, but I'd kill them if I had a chance.

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>>689085235

You need to take this fuckstick back.

>>689085879
>1.5 billion Muslims worldwide. They outbreed us 8 to 1

1. no they dont.
2. the places where they are having more children are places like... Indonesia. Somalia. Bumfuckistan.

Do you live in Indonesia? No.
Somalia? Nope.
Bumfuckistan? Well, not much difference to the US in some ways, but no, again.

It doesnt matter. Because they're not having 8 children in your country, or mine.

you are quite literally making up hysterical, paranoid shit, screaming that the Sky is Falling.

It would be laughable, if it wasnt quite so pathetic. I live in a first world nation, where religion is thankfully, becoming a thing of the past. In that, you lot are more like the Muslim countries, than Europe, and I suspect that's more than a little part of your hysterical terror.

In our countries, the churches are becoming community centres. Scary stuff that. Its almost like Communism. Want to know what the scary brown people in my country do? They do out into the city square with tables and big signs.
Not saying "Islam will rule" or whatever you imagine. But saying "free food for homeless", and they provide soup kitchens for the poor... Meanwhile, down in england, Syrian groups went door to door after the floods last winter, Armed with.... Spades, and sandbags, and gave out sandbags to help protect houses. Their reason "These people took us in, its our turn to give something back" - actual quote.

Your paranoid delusions of the evil muslim menace that will sweep all of europe intoa dark age, are more telling of your own fears and misinformation, than any reality. There are some really shitty muslims. there are also some fucking good people. And they are a minority, 4-5% of the population. they are not "taking over"

you can go "ok, Whatever", but all that means is in fact "I'm so scared, I cant even listen to facts".

But I dont doubt that you'll continue being afraid and ignorant, regardless of reality.

>>689087090
But the Paris attacks were don't by already established French citizens, they weren't refugees
Still Muslims though

>>689087366
*done

>>689086833
Why do you give a fuck about European religious freedom laws?

Your cuckhold inadequacy is showing.

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>>689086097
>Back in the 60's and 70's and 80's it was the "commie" threat, that was going to destroy Freedom.
Yes it was. See "Archipel Gulag" for further information uneducated lefty. 1984 and Animal farm to. All 3 are about communism. Should be enough for the start.
>2 billion Freedom-hating brown-skinned muslim
you have no idea about islam, but a big mouth
>Its laughable
because you don't understand the world you live in
> if it wasnt so predictable
now i am l laughing. you are so arrogant Herrenmensch, i guess you are German. right?

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>>689087457
You are arguing someone else, confused anon.

And I note you did not answer the question.

America doesn't have a gun problem, America has a nigger problem.

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>>689071581
Stay in aussieland, simple. Take some of our liberals while you're at it. If they hate guns so much, there are places they can go for that.

"Just ban all guns" is the simple solution. Interestingly, racists get heat for saying "Just ban all niggers" with equally damning statistics. There's some backward logic.

Finally, guns is about evading oppression from dictatorship, not preventing home invasion though they are good for that, too.

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>>689086097
Yeah, don't these idiots know that Climate Change is the real threat?

Time to start huge carbon taxes.

>>689084481
I did say gun crime, not homicide. Anyway, the homicide rate has declined - the graph there shows it.

>>689084560
>if you don't hang out in the hood, or, you know, in a school

The problem is massacres. When you make it harder for an aspie kid to get a gun and ammo immediately, your massacre rate declines, man.

>>689084776
DEY TERK ERR JERBS

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>>689088269
Crime has fallen in pretty much every developed nation since the 90s, you're part of that

And gun crime fell, but other crime rose, and there wasn't an immediate effect after the ban

>>689085352
That's what you say

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>>689071581
>Australian
>we don't demonize our aborigine minority
Hahahahahahahshahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>689088550
Mass shootings are statistically rare, but they seem like they happen more because they get more news coverage

Sandy Vagina was the result of a criminal stealing guns that weren't his

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>>689072254
>Americans act like their healthcare system isn't flawed

Watch "Escape Fire: The fight to rescue american healthcare" if you care.

We're aware, we're just under billionaire tyranny right now and even healthcare and education can't fight it.

>..president who shined a light on the issue

The opposite. He tried to bury the severity of the issue. It used to be you'd get an absurd bill for services rendered and say "This is absurd! We need to fix this!". Now it's "I don't have to pay anything!(everyone is paying it)". So we're still being price gougued, it's just more obscure to see it.


Facts for you.

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>>689066631

Thank you for your concern Europe.

How are things going for you?

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An Allah Catbar from Schweden

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>>689066631
Butthurt European is mad that no one cares about Europe and their Muslims anymore

>>689087655
>further information uneducated lefty
I suspect I have a higher level of education than you, unless you went to CalTech, Stanford, MIT, or maybe Harvard.

Take from that what you will, but my postgraduate was from a university that's only beaten in the rankings by those 3 or 4, depending on the year. But keep on telling yourself I'm an "uneducated leftie" by all means. I do enjoy laughing at you lurching from one assumption to the next.


>because you don't understand the world you live in

"But only I DO! I know exactly what its like living in Yoorup! Er, Can someone show me where it is in a map?" He said, with the frothing self-righteous certainty that only ignorance of reality can offer.

Right. so you're SO utterly convinced that you know what this country is like despite the fact you've never lived here?

Strange. I smell shite. Yes. Its definitely shite. And its coming out your mouth.

No, I'm not a German. the leather shorts were never my thing.
But you are laughable, and incredibly predictable. Its the sort of swivel-eyed mania of the utterly terrified, paranoid, who's been drip-fed from a media source for years, till its permeated the brain so utterly that they are incapable of realising they've been fed a complete distortion of reality for... well, most of their life.

I lived in the US, for a little while. Your media is batshit insane. And utterly ignorant of reality of what living in Europe is like. Have you lived in Europe? I doubt it, because those of your countrymen I am very proud to know, invariably laugh about how fucked up it is "back home" and how they're glad to be in a safe country.

>>689087655
>1984 and Animal Farm

Huh? Orwell was a Democratic-socialist, and was under surveillance for being essentially a communist. 1984 and Animal Farm are about totalitarian, fascist states. Why would an effective communist write an anti-communism book?

>>689068412
>shitposters are responsible for 90%
>of the fabricated statistics on /b/

>>689066631
>Complains about new
>doesn't give link
>Doesn't understand that news companies such as CNN target certain stories for more money

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>>689089347
you didnt expect him to understand the books he was trying to reference, did you?

that's a bit optimistic.

>>689088034
Guns are not people, whilst block people are. The fact that you think block people and guns are the same means I hope someone shoots you square between the eyes, you redneck.

Actually, no-one has ever said 'just ban all guns'. Literally no-one. In Australia, guns aren't banned, it's just super hard to get one. You can't buy fucking ammunition in a Wal-Mart or off eBay.

Canada has more guns than America. But they have stricter gun laws. And they don't have the insane gun statistics that the US does. And they're literally on your border.
It's not about 'takin muh gerns' it's about ensuring people who have access to weaponry designed to kill, and kill fast, are of suitable mind to be able to operate that weaponry. You need a license to drive a car. You need to do a driving test to drive a car.

To your last point, you really think that whatever pistol or rifle you pick up at the local gun shop can protect you from the drones and nuclear weapons an oppressive dictatorship would access to and control of? No. You don't really believe that it's for 'evading oppression and dictatorship' you just use that as a bullshit excuse because that's what's in the second amendment.

You just get hard about guns - that's all. And that's actually fine, just admit it and we can have an adult discussion about it. Instead what happens is you say 'muh secon amerndmernt' and 'gumint gunna oppress us allll' whenever guns and law are mentioned in the same sentence

Ban them all or not. I don't fucking care. I'll still keep the few unregistered ones I have. Not for defense against home invaders or some oppressive government. But simply because I don't like being told what I can or can't do. Or can or can't have. Just the kind of fag I am

>>689076133
Typical antiliberal, calling unfounded opinions "facts".

>>689066631
I like how reports about the Dallas shooting cuts out as soon as the guy with an obvious tazer comes into view.

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>>689076186
>i bet
there is no wagering at 4chan, Grandpa

>>689088861
Never said we don't, we just do so in a way that doesn't assume every single one of them is going to kill you and are responsible for the majority of crime

>>689088872
>stealing guns that weren't his

You mean the guns someone else was allowed to easily obtain and not keep safe?

What about children that kill other children by stealing guns? The girl that shot her mother? That's all sweet, and not an issue because they didn't actually buy the guns?

>>689076228
oh look, another 'muricuck who knows nothing about europe

go buy another gun, faggot.

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>>689090575
I fully agree weapons that are not in your immediate control should be locked up if they can be accessed by unauthorized people. That's part of being a responsible gun owner

But you can't always legislate away or fix stupid

>>689090284
Uh huh
I take it you keep nuclear weapons then? Methamphetamine and cocaine in large amounts?

>>689089200
>OP literally says nothing about muslims

Literally all this muslim shit was brought about by insecure Americans

>>689091487
it really is quite amazing just how obsessed, and paranoid, they are about them.

>>689091035
No I don't actually. People shouldn't own military grade weapons.including WMDs. And hard drugs are bad for you

>>689090153
Not the dude you were responding to but
>Canada has more guns than America.
Is this per capita or overall? I'd assume that the average Canadian has more respect towards guns than the average American.

To counter your point about protecting oneself against modern combat, I'd say that the chances of the US government (or any other nation) carpet-bombing everything with nukes isn't the problem (the power of nuclear weapons are vastly over-stated and I doubt that the US has enough functioning warheads to entirely wipe out its own population). Most enemies of the US with nuclear capabilities (or even the US itself for that matter) have the capability of wiping out a few major cities. I'd argue that most private gun ownership in the US is owned by those in the country, making any ground invasion pretty futile (not including the deserters that would come with military hardware if it happened in the US).

>>689066631
wasn't there a thread a couple of days ago about no recent shootings in the US? Well fuck you man

>>689089612
Top Kek

How long till feminists use this to whine about sexism and "toxoc masculinity"

>>689089347
Because every communist state that has ever existed has been an authoritarian one that led to the deaths of millions of people. No big deal though, I'm sure it will work eventually.

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>>689092444
They like to imply that gun owners have small dicks, which sounds like the opposite of toxic masculinity to me

In fact, feminists should be in love with guns, because it makes it easy to shoot rapists, but for some reason they want to disarm women

>>689092444
Checked

>>689092464
somehow I cant help suspect that this is going to end up with someone equating socialism to communism within, oh, 25 posts.

every fucking time...