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Bernie supporter here. Please explain the unjustified hate
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Bernie supporter here.

Please explain the unjustified hate the most of you have against Bernie. Most of the arguments i have seen so far are idiotic. Go!
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>>689055725
he's a niggerlover
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>>689055725
too bad the media isn't going to let him win.
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>>689055725
just
look at him
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>>689055725
He's a jew and a commie
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>>689055725
In my opinion they are all shit, America is fucked.
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>>689055725
Shiposters from /pol/

They're just memeing.
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He's not Trump
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>>689055860
They sure are trying to pretend he's not in the race.
Pretty much from day 1.
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>>689055725
>unjustified hate
Welcome to 4chan
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>pic related

He's a socialist
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He's a conduit for routing normal people's money to people without jobs or even US citizenship
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>>689055725
"If you are white, you don't know what it's like to be poor. You don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto." -Bernie Sanders

Explain that racist quote OP.
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>>689056474
Bernie wants to deal with REAL issues. Explain to me what the problem is.
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>>689056661

Giving lazy, selfish people money isn't "dealing" with them being poor.
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>>689056474
lol
>implying the GOP doesnt allow lobbyists to write and legislation allowing the wealthiest companies in posession of most of the US Dollals to do the exact same thing on a much more enormous scale every fucking day of the week.

Keep bitching about the drops of piss the bum is peeing into the ocean. It's cute.
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>>689055725
Not hate,,, he's a failure and this cult of love he's gathered made him even more hateable in his failure.

He couldn't organize his campaign despite the love for him. He gathered MILLIONs and still fucked it up by overpaying political consultants and not helping local candidates.

His supporters are the fucking worst. They claim to be SJWs, but call death threats to anyone who disagrees with them. It's really fucking bad.

The whole thing was a horrible experience which genuinely had nothing to do with Politics.
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Who's this "bernie" fellow you are referring to, OP?
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>>689056559
Fair enough. Politics is politics - Bernie has always advocated for black rights, and he uses that arguments to forward his campaign. This photo was from his arrest in 1963 at a South Side protest, long before he had any thoughts about being a presidential candidate.

What about Hillary and her hypocrisy?
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>>689056474
The Republican base is obsessed with the tiny percentage of the population that could work, but doesn't. They will let the rich evade taxes, get huge government subsidies, and make bank shipping jobs ovr seas, as long as some nigger in the hood doesn't get a welfare check.

"I'm poor, overworked, and underpaid, but at least I'm white"

That is the Republican motto.
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>>689057327
>Fair enough. Politics is politics - Bernie has always advocated for black rights, and he uses that arguments to forward his campaign. This photo was from his arrest in 1963 at a South Side protest, long before he had any thoughts about being a presidential candidate.

What does that really have to do with being a good President, commander in chief and primary execute of congressional laws?
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>>689056559
Well he's right. Thats the idea. Whites natural place is at the top of the economy. The servile races are where they ought be. In ghettos, festering in their filth.

No white person should suffer to live in such a mode.
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>>689057327
Hillary is also racist. There are pictures of her with KKK leaders and in blackface. She's good at manipulating black people, which is why blacks vote for her and not Bernie. How do you reconcile the fact that black people are the reason bernie lost to hillary?
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>>689055725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_AmmZALjs>>689055725
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>>689057666
Post them?
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>>689056826
Giving it to rich selfish people isnt either.
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>>689055725
Jews did 9/11
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>>689057809
The rich earned those government handouts. The poor are just leeches.
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>>689058002
Bush did 9/11 fag
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because I work hard for my money and I dont want this shitrat kyke giving it out to niggers like you, OP

That's why
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What a lot of people don't realize and fail to acknowledge in these political threads is that AI is coming whether we like it or not. First it will replace the low skill jobs in the service industry, then it will take over the entire transportation industry with self driving cars/trucks. It's already moving into the HIGH SKILLED professions for lawyers and doctors. research/paperwork that once required 10 lawyers now only requires one or two.

Anyways my point is within 15 years the unemployment rate is going to be higher than it was during the great depression. how the FUCK are we supposed to deal with that with out some form of socialism. its just not possible to maintain a capitalist society when we reach that point.
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>>689055725
I dont agree with his idea of the federal government's role in my life. I feel he is pandering to the young voter who doesnt understand the more intricate aspects of our country.
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>>689055804
The 1950s called. They want their insults back.
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>>689056042
This
>>689056256
And this he wanted to start making college free for everyone among everything thing else he wanted to give away he woildve given California and texas back to mexico the cucked lil bitch
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>>689057666
Calm down, Satan!
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>>689056661
Bernie's real issues inevitably end up being taking money from normal people and giving it to others who don't deserve it because they didn't work for it
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>>689058274
Hey, you wanted to know why, now deal with it faggot
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>>689055725
He's the worst kind of self-loathing white guy who thinks everything bad in the world is perpetrated by white males.
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>>689056474
No. He's trying to reduce the routing of hard working citizens money to the 1%.
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>>689057593
>"I'm poor, overworked, and underpaid, but at least I'm white"
/thread
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>>689058547
This. Little nigger loving faggot can't stand up for himself.
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>>689055725
he wants to take my hard earned money and give it to lazy black niggers.
the only people who like bernie are the people who expect to get free money. Everybody else who works hard and is getting robbed fuckign hates him and rightfully so.
Socialism doesn't work. It NEVER has and it NEVER will.
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>>689058811
Personally, I'm proud of being white. Do you have a problem with that?
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>>689055725
I don't hate him, he has good intentions. But so did Jimmy Carter.
Just not potus material
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>>689059049
People spend 100k in college to learn that it's ok to be proud to be every other race except white.
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>>689056559
you're pretty fucking autistic for posting this mate. if you had actually watched the debate this was said in you'd know that Bernie grew up poorer than anyone you've ever met in your life, obviously he understands white people can be poor.

the one thing thats worse than SJWs is white people acting like this kind of "racism" against them matters. like yeah, obviously non-whites can be racist, but if you pretend to be offended by a quote like this one you might as well kill yourself
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I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He's living in the 60's. He's never grown up.
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>>689057666
>Hillary is also racist. There are pictures of her with KKK leaders
Where are those pictures? I searched and all I found was pictures of her laid on top of pictures of KKK members. All of those picture were on "conservative" websites.
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>>689055725
I hate that he misleads his followers into thinking the plans he has to fund his socialist programs have any chance of being implemented by a republican congress. Without those funding sources, he's just going to spend us further into debt. Bread and circuses, woohoo!
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>>689058547
I'm not OP, you retarded inbred redneck piece of shit.
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>>689057593
but trump doesn't want to ship jobs overseas.. Republicans don't want jobs shipped overseas. Many of the rich people you are talking about earned their fair share by working hard. If somebody is smarter than me or works harder than me they deserve a better reward than me. If they work less they deserve less of a reward than me. That's how republicans think. They aren't obsessed with the niggers who don't work. They just don't think it' fair when they work hard and earn their own money and other don't work hard and take their money from them. I simply don't see how anybody could agree that that is fair or a good idea. Unless of course they are biased and are the ones getting paid....
Get a fucking job
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>>689059496
Are you saying he never said it? If he did say it you haven't explained why it makes any sense. It's an incredibly stupid and incorrect statement, as bad as anything Trump has said.
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>>689059885
You're right we should totes be giving more tax breaks to the ultra wealthy. That's a much better way to balloon the defecite.
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>>689055725
>>>/pol/
read the board list before posting
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>>689059496
>you're pretty fucking autistic for posting this mate.
All I did was quote bernie :3

>Bernie grew up poorer than anyone you've ever met in your life
That presumes a whole lot about me. Thanks to wikipedia I know about Bernie's upbringing and can say he was somewhat better off than I was.

That quote isn't only racist against whites. It also means that, according to Bernie, if you look at the poor or in a ghetto you will only find "people of color". That's rather disparaging to them too. :^)
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>>689056661
No, you explain.
What "REAL issues"?
I've already listened to many of his speeches but I want to know what these "REAL isues" are from you and how burnout would deal with them.
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>>689060078
>but trump doesn't want to ship jobs overseas.
He is already shipping jobs overseas.
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>>689055804
Basically this
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>>689059691
Pics or it didn't happen.
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>>689060078
>Many of the rich people you are talking about earned their fair share by working hard.

lol. Why do you belive this? The Republicans have always given tax breaks to the ultra wealthly while screwing over poor people of all colors. Let me guess, you think you're going to hard work your way to a millionaire?
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>>689060078
Martin Skerhili whatever is a real hard worker.

Carli Fiorina worked incredibly hard.

How about them Koch Brother?
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>>689060719
Nice meme, that's a fake hat. All official merchandise from EVERY politician comes from America, which is also why all their merchandise is fucking expensive.
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I don't hate bernie, I just hate bernie supporters.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
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>>689060719
anybody can go to a website and have a hat custom ordered and sent to their house. if that company chooses to use cheaper labor overseas it doesn't mean trump if shipping them overseas. Find me that same hat on a website where one of trump's companies is selling it.
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Besides him being a commie...
It's mostly his fans.
The stupid liberals who wouldn't stop telling me to feel the bern in any situation possible, like you were all 100% sure he was going to win.
These people constantly use their opinion as a fact.
Now that they are all butthurt, all they can say is "go suck trumps dick you racist nazi".
It shows how brainwashed you all are by reciting what you heard the media say about him for a year.
Most of the people that supported him are the kids in colleges right now being labeled the most coddled generation yet.
These people where polled if freedom of speech should be abolished, and they all signed it, Because these are the kids who would prefer to lie to themselves and others to hide their insecurities rather than face reality.

And no. I'm not voting trump. I'm not voting at all. Choosing the lesser of 2 evils is something I won't take part in.
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>>689060078
See:
>>689057593
>The Republican base is obsessed with the tiny percentage of the population that could work, but doesn't. They will let the rich evade taxes, get huge government subsidies, and make bank shipping jobs ovr seas, as long as some nigger in the hood doesn't get a welfare check.
>"I'm poor, overworked, and underpaid, but at least I'm white"
>That is the Republican motto.

Youre so afraid of a nigger getting a handout, that you'll vote against your own best interest.
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>>689060719
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>>689060853
Haha, these fools either pretend they're wealthy or would actually reach top 1% status if they work "super hard". Bullshit.
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>>689060018
die in a fire
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I disagree with his stance on guns.
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>>689059354
Learn how to fact-check faggot.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-blackface-photo/
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>>689055725
Honestly Sanders created a second tea party for liberals. We know how well the Teaparty destroyed the GOP... Dems are smart to destroy him.
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>>689055725
All of his beliefs are wrong.
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>>689061315
i'm not voting against myself or anybody including black people. I'm simply voting for what is fair and just. Trying to make me sound like a hypocrite doesn't make socialism any less stupid or unfair.
Nice try though
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>>689056559
thread
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>>689061941
>second
No he didn't. The tea party was successful.
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>>689061504
mods.
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>>689062033
Let me rephrase, He Tried to create a second tea party.
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>>689058345
>given texas back to mexico

Well that's a pretty good idea, actually.
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Raiseing minimum wage would cause places to get rid of employees and replace it with machine lager since hiring someone is so expensive and cheaper to do with machines, which would cause unemployment to go up and cause prices to go up, nothing but negative effects
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Because socialism is fucking evil. No man has a right to extort property from another, so why should a room full of strangers arbitrarily decide how much of my property they can take and where it's redistributed? The biggest lie fed to youth today is that 'need' is a mortgage on property.
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>>689061941
>the Teaparty destroyed the GOP
the GOP's mainstream and centrist factions destroyed the GOP by ignoring what their base actually wants. Hillary is destroying the democratic party
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>>689061941
Very accurate observation.
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>>689061979
>Fair

It's fair that people who make more money in a week, than you will in a lifetime. Pay less taxes than you (percentage wise)?
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>>689062640
This, and rehashing it as "democratic socialism" means nothing. Go ask Venezuela how democratic socialism is treating them these days.
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>>689062646
There was a lot of crazy fucking ideas that came from tea party fags. Obama is a muslim. Vaccines cause autism. Global warming is a complete hoax. Muh Israel.
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>>689062646
No whether you like it or not the Dems are Hillary. Just like Reagan is the Rep messiah, Clinton is the Dem's god.
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>>689062348
And he failed miserably. Why? It was all about him. He was important. He didn't support really anyone else but his political consultants. The ones who could organize rallies, but never really got ahold of 'how to ensure voter blocks are registered to vote'.
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because extortion is wrong.
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>>689062640
property is not a right.
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I think you might be confusing "hate" with "not supporting his policies".

Only children who can't vote hate political candidates, but I suppose that is America in a nutshell. At least when it comes to the theatre of politics we have.
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>>689062790
NAACP loves the guy. You don't know your history.

It's also great because it shows how dumb the idea that 'flip flopping' is a bad thing.
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>>689062937
Did it fail. I mean he didn't beat Hillary but he still has massive success against the She God Hillary.
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>>689063072
now here's a question, was it truly success or merely a showing of how ungodly disgusting a Hillary candidacy is?
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>>689062813
>Go ask Venezuela how democratic socialism is treating them these days.
Venezuela has problems, but most of them are the CIA
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>>689055725
>already lost
>still asking for donations
>what a fucking greedy jew
sage btw
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>>689063001
No person shall be subject, except in cases of impeachment, to more than one punishment, or one trial for the same office; nor shall be compelled to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor be obliged to relinquish his property, where it may be necessary for public use, without a just compensation.

Source: Bill of Rights

Idiot.
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>>689063055
>NAACP loves the guy
And? NAACP is run by jews that want to control black people.
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He's a worthless Jew with terrible ideas

Good riddance
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>>689055725
NO

If I had to explain it, then it wouldn't be unjustified.

Fucking liberal faggots with no logic, holy fucking christ
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>>689063192
Oh god that is a good question, I don't know it's the chicken and the egg there.
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>>689063207
sure thing maduro. the cia stole all your toilet paper.
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>>689063055
I just showed you history.
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>>689055725
does he even survive the next 4 years
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>>689060853
>>689060886
my parents came from poor families. Most of their relatives are still alive including their parents so they haven't received any handouts and even if they did it wouldn't be much because like I said their families were poor. They never even got a degree and they are millionaires right now. So how do I think people can work hard and become wealthy? From first hand experience.
You just sound angry about the fact that there are other people in the world who work harder than you. Get a fucking Job and drop your arts degree tumblerina
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>>689063207
Yeah, and standing in line for 6 hours for a loaf of bread and laundry detergent. Gotta love a command economy.
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>>689055725
He supports a political ideology that has been historically proven to only work in the favor of people who are in positions of authority and wealth, but spins it to make it seem like it's to support the lower class who are dumb enough to believe that they are willing to give them everything for free.
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>>689062858
they're political conservatives, of course they're going to believe stupid shit.
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>>689063408

>just use logic

Except ONLY liberals know what logic even IS these days, so...
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>>689060252
Good false dichotomy.
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>>689063408
I'm sure they earned that money with hard work. And you most certainly did. Please tell me all about how you hard worked your way into being born rich.
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Who here is moving to a sea-stead? Things will only get worse
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>>689062858
I prefer muh israel to muh "palestine" tbh
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>>689063711
get off /b/ Patri you're drunk
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>>689063408
No I disagree, working hard isn't enough. You also have to be smart. That doesn't mean book smart, but knowing when to take advantage of what you have. I am glad you have smart parents that know how the world works. Tell them Kudos from a b/tard.
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>>689056256

Most geeks and nerds are intelligent
Most intelligent people are liberal

therefore...
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>>689060252
>If you don't think we should be forced to support the poor, you must think that we should give tax breaks to the rich!
Your brain has some crossed wires if you think that is a logical conclusion.
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>>689063245
suck those rotten founding father dicks in hell
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Hate for socialists is never unjustified. Moreover it is an obligation of every person with brain to criticize socialists and their dream worlds in which rivers run uphill.

But being serious now, he is hated for the same reason as every socialist, that is because he wants to take money from hard-working people and give it to some losers (and small percentage of people who really needs some help).

just leaving my part of thread as citizien of former communist country. #feelthebernofyourcountry
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>>689063245
Moron, that means property can't be seized without due process or eminent domain. Doesn't say anything about property being a right.
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>>689055725
I hate Hillary far more then I hated Bernie , but mainly it's his politics. The man himself is probably a good guy....oh no he's a kyke
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>>689063752
I prefer that we not get involved with either. I could give less of a shit if Israel and Palestine nuke each other to the stone age.
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>>689055725
Realistically, socialism doesn't work. Especially in a large market economy with a huge population apart of private businesses. Economically, he is misguided and doesn't have a grasp of reality. Socially, it is based on opinion, and there I still see an old fool off his rocker. Trump has a better economic plan by leaps and bounds, focusing on the free market economy rather than strict regulation, while Bernie poses a fundamentally incorrect socialist economic plan that would add 16 trillion dollars to debt.
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>>689055725
I hate him because he represents the opposition to human achievement and prosperity. In his perfect world, each individual would have just enough to live on; monetary equality between us all.

What he, and the other Keynesian idiots don't grasp is that there is and should be some degree of unemployment and suffering. People who are willing to work hard to get an education, get a job in a lucrative sector, and accept the financial burdens of such an undertaking do deserve as much money as they can possibly acquire. Bernie would tax those individuals very highly in order to give the taxed dollars to those less willing to remedy their situation. Do parents teach their children nothing of personal accountability these days?
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From an objective perspective (Canadian), the reason that Bernie wasn't in the running is because he wanted socialized equality for people in a nation that pride themselves on inequality. Money is success, being poor is failure. US culture seems to thrive on pointing out who they're better than... If they were all equal to each other, in terms of access to opportunity, the entire system would break down. A rational man who genuinely cares about people has no place in US politics.
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>>689064045
don't cut yourself on that edge faggot.
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>>689059354
Yah, but now they want to do it for 'free'
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>>689064117
I have to agree as well. There are people who won't work, nor will they seek to better themselves. I only agree with a free education for Perfect students. Anyone keeping a 3.9 or higher shouldn't have to pay for how hard they are working but... oh well.
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>>689064021
Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Source: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights - United Nations

Any incorrect claims? I can do this all day long.
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>>689064045
you realize Israel has nukes because the literally stole them from the US right? like with spies and smuggling. straight up stole.
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>>689056826

Except it actually is. They are poor because wages are 3 times lower than they should be to have kept up with inflation.

To keep them out of literal squalor, we have to supplement that different through systems like welfare, foodstamps, medicare and unemployment.

This is very basis of how a healthy capitalist society even fucking works.

They won't just die in the streets if you don't give them what they need to survive, you know. And even if they did, that's morally and ethically bankrupt on your part and contributes to an unstable socioeconomic position for the nation.

PEOPLE and the TIME it takes to make them viable members of society are our most expensive and critical resource, not petty money. The fucking ROMANS even understood this shit.
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>>689055725
"idiotic"
thats why

you can't see anything with closed eyes.

if you cared at all about your country you would be able to see both the light and dark.
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>>689064372
this is *literally* false.
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>>689063879
You're Retarded....
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>>689064021
Read the 5th and 14th amendments, idiot.
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>>689064117
Honestly those socialist bastards scared a lot of the good middleclass jobs out of this country. It wouldn't be hard to get them back if we dropped corporate taxes and raised trade tariffs just a few percent .
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>>689057666

>Hillary in blackface

It's not that I'm calling you a liar, it's just...um....uh....
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>>689064336
I understand that stance. But I don't think anything should truly be free. The entitlement in this country has got to stop.
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>>689064344
go read the rest of that list and tell me again how it proves taxes are a violation of your rights you stupid shit
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>>689064372
Source? All I know is our "greatest ally" has been fucking with America in a variety of ways, from spying to lobbying.

>>689064273
A dead squirrel on my front lawn is more relevant to me than over 9000 dead niggers in africa.
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I love Bernie with all my heart.
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>>689064344
>implying the US follows any UN declaration
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>>689063656
I wasn't born rich. My parents made less than 100k a year combined and were $60000 in bedt when I was born. Also I am not rich right now. My parents are but i'm not. I am currently in college to be an accountant. Will it make me rich? not super rich. but i'll have enough money to buy everything I will want and need. Not everybody can be super rich. That's not how socialism works. Or really reality. My parents don't pay for my things either. I went to a community college for an aviation maintenance technician license and it was all paid for through scholarships and grants. I got a job and saved up 60 grand while living at my parents house for 3 years then I went to a big state college and that's where I am now. I work a job and go to school. It's enough to get me buy and I have scholarships because I have good grades. So yes you can most certainly work your way up in the world. My parents bought me a car when I was 16 and I still have this same car 8 years later. Thats about all they have done for me.
I was dual enrolled in high school so I went to college part time in high school as well and I bought stock in the aviation company I worked for while I worked there and sold it when I left to go back to college. I work hard bitch so nobody else has any excuses. All through hard work baby. Capitalism. I love it. You should too.
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>>689063371
showed = cut out the most important part because it disproves your troll
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>>689064344
Hate to break it to you but we aren't bound by some U.N. Human rights declaration...yet
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>>689064611
But that is the problem entitlement is kind of ingrown in this nation. Free school could be called entitlement. Free roads as well.
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>>689064566
I wholeheartedly agree. The aversion to restricting global trade agreements is unfathomable to me. Bring warehouse and factory jobs back, take a cut on profit, and move forward.
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>>689064717
Every country spies on every other country anon.
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>>689055725
He lost to Hillary. And he sound exactly like the Blue Aardvark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7aKgR7hcpE
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>>689064634
Money, as legal tender, is property. Property seized with force without compensation (your money is given to to the poor, and if you don't pay, you go to jail).

For your babby brain, I'll make it even easier. When the government takes your money on threat of imprisonment and gives it to others, it's violence.
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>>689064528
I have ..and?
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>>689064467
There's a rumor that the US gave Israel nukes to protect them from Egypt in the 60's, I'm guessing that's where that anon's story derived from. There's no proof, but Egypt sure stopped that war even when it looked like they had a sure win
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>>689064817
Enlighten me. What is the most important part?
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>>689064955
They literally guarantee property as a right that can't be violated without due process.

Are you fucking Patrick Star?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96IO3eBrxVk
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>>689065045
The reality is that they developed them with willful French cooperation.
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>>689064949
Fucking retarded libertarian logic. The constitution allows taxation. There are restrictions on the mechanisms of taxation, but it's allowed. If you don't like being taxed then get off the grid and go live in inna woods. Otherwise pay your taxes because you use public services like everyone else.
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>>689064372

Israel has nukes because at the end of WWII all the members of the newly-formed UN received the nuclear secrets from the US. This was largely because nuclear technology was a cooperative effort with scientists from many nations contributing to it and to immediately calm fearful sentiments regarding the US taking over the world while so many other nations were recovering from the war.

Israel was a member of the UN and so it received nuclear knowledge the same way every other nation did.
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>>689055725
He was a fucking bum until he was 40 years old. According to people that knew him years ago claim he couldn't even hold down a fucking job as a carpenter because hammering nails into wood was difficult for him and that he had a big mouth. Always talking shit about his politic views and protests (which got him fired)
If you want a source go ahead and google bernie sanders life story, It's everywhere.
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Because I don't agree with his policies
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>>689065362
>Israel has nukes because at the end of WWII all the members of the newly-formed UN
I stopped reading there since Israel didn't come into existence until 3 years after the bloody fucking UN.
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>>689064949

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

>Hurr durr Taxes r theft cuz get out of muh wallet niggers!

You should move to Somalia. You would live happily...for about 4 months.
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>>689065319
Do you have a link to that story? That sounds like an interesting read
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>>689065230
No, they guarantee your right to own property without having it seized. That's not guaranteeing property as a right.
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>>689055725
socialism is cancer. It literally destroys the economy and makes everyone live in poverty.
He can't do any of the things he has promised. Even if he taxed everyone in the country he couldn't afford to send everyone to college for free and provide health care to everyone. It doesn't work like that.
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>>689065351
>Because I use public services like everyone else
Yes, and those are justified because I HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. I don't have access to government benefits because I make money and don't need to extort it from others for my solitary gain.
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>>689055725
My "unjustified hate" is not really with burnout himself it's with his followers, like you op.
People who stand with blm while ignoring the hate crimes that happen to whites on an almost daily basis.
Hypocrites
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>>689065351
You realize the US was founded on the principles of not paying taxes, right? Your founding fathers were white christians of high economic means that disagreed with where the money they paid in tax to the British Empire was going. They started a war over it.
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>>689065640
>and makes everyone live in poverty
Everyone but the leaders and their direct subordinates
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>>689065578
lol it's a completely open secret
Literally on wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#Development_history
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>>689055725
hes a communist.
therefore his political agenda is incompatible with being the leader of a capitalist nation
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>>689065556
Come back when you have a counter argument. Because that's just pathetic name calling.

The point is that it's unconstitutional to take money without any promise of compensation. I pay money for welfare queens, but am not compensated for it. I pay money for roads, and I AM compensated for it.
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>>689065640

Except it absolutely doesn't.

Socialism is one extreme; capitalism is another.

Stable economies are based on BOTH being used in moderation.

>public libraries
>public waterworks
>public parks
>public roads
>public schools
>Fire and Police departments

ALL of the above are socialist systems we use that contribute directly to our stability and quality of life.
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>>689065789
true. but that money comes from other nations relief aid.
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>>689065920
No it's unconstitutional to be taxed without representation.
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>>689065778
you're also forgetting the part where the colonies were left to there own devices for a long time and when britain tried to implement shit the rest of the empire already was doing our founding fathers decided it wasnt fair they had to do the same thing the entire empire did
america was founded because some twats got mad they were expected to be held to the same rules as the rest of their country
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>>689065890
I don't trust wikipedia that much, but thanks for the link ,I appreciate it
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>>689066111
>>689066111
lol no it isn't
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>>689065556
Well, of course taxation is violence (theft hehe) so what is your point? You want to argue that taking your money by force and threatening of sending to you people with guns if you disobey is not violence? Goog luck, but I do not foretell you success
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>>689065654
This is sovereign citizen tier level of nonsense. The only reason why you're thinking this is because you really really hate the fact that the government takes a chunk out of your check, and some of that money is wasted on bullshit like foodstamps for niggers. I get it. It is the price you pay for living in civilization.

>>689065778
I argued that the text of the constitution allows taxation. Your statement is irrelevant.
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>>689066025
>All of the above are socialist systems that we have to pay for or we go to jail. Great, isn't it?
>I've never heard of a private library
>I've never heard of private water companies
>I've never heard of a privately owned park
>I've never heard of a privately owned road
>I've never heard of a privately owned school
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>>689065778
They had to tax to fund the war. They objected to taxation without representation. The colonies were a cash cow for the Empire. They were not allowed a way to determine their future.
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>>689065920

Fucking ethically bankrupt manbaby.

Your kind are fucking PARASITES who don't deserve even a fraction of what being a first world nation citizen grants you.
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>>689057661
Whites are not even close to the top of the economy
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>>689055725
>unjustified hate
I don't hate Sanders, but if I did, it would certainly be justified.
Still, Sanders was nothing but a foil meant to make Hillery look like she had to fight for the nomination. Bernie never really had any chance to win- the Dems and MSM made sure of that.
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>>689066025
all of those would be better if they were privatized.
have you ever been to a private park? have you ever driven on a privately paved road? Private schools are better regarded on resumes aren't they? There is a reason.
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>>689066271
You still haven't presented a SINGLE argument. All you've said is "Well that's just how it is huhuh"
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>>689060252
Implying the defecite would not go up by trillions with burnout
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>>689066025
>ALL of the above are socialist systems we use that contribute directly to our stability and quality of life.
Those are socialized programs, not socialism. Socialism is the social ownership and democratic control of the means of production.
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>>689066169
Ok wow beat by the smartest mind in the world. I am humbled. (Not really)

>>689066143
Colonies had no representation in Parliament, felt it wrong to be told what to do without a chance to have a counter argument. Had King George just added Ben Franklin to Parliment we would still be a colony.
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>>689066143
Not forgot. That's a bias you'd find in a US textbook. I have the benefit of learning from the events from sources not written by those involved.
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>>689055725
He's been poor his entire life and has no accomplishments. He blames this on people that are wealthier than him. Which was everyone back then including immigrants. Hillary and Trump have done more in the first 40 years of their lives than Bernie could hope to accomplish in multiple lifetimes.
Hillary is for the working low class Americans while Bernie is for the non-working jobless trailer trash. That's why you see these nigger and cuck jokes about him. He's literally the whitest nigger you will ever see in your lifetime.
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>>689055725

Communism is the loss of liberty. I love liberty and freedom. He's a fucking communist.

I hate him. Fuck you.
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>>689055725
I hate bernie because he did not beat out hillary to the nomination.

nothing else needs to be said
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>>689066392
My argument was already made: the constitution explicitly allows taxation.
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>>689066275
>I've never heard of private water companies
I am part owner of a private well, and the state is trying to take it from us. GO fucking figure
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>>689058274
Reddit called. They want you back.
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>>689066279
Ethically bankrupt? I don't take from others through force, and I give through voluntary means. Does forcing people to support your lifestyle and sacrifice their property for your gain make you feel like an ethical human being? If so, I have to question whether you have any pride as an individual at all.
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>>689063879

You're living proof they aren't.
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>>689066524

Correct; stupid people tend to hate Bernie.
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>>689066627
/kek
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>>689060078
Most of trump's employees are rather illegal immigrants or work in a different country
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>>689055725
wont hand over his jew gold
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>>689066379
>Private school...
UM NO, it is worse. I got hired in one. I have no College degree, no idea how to handle children but this August I start teaching 3rd grade. I love church schools
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>>689066278
And this differs from the current stat in America how? All that's happened is that the 1% have replaced a foreign king.
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>>689066483
there's literally no provision in the constitution that even alludes to what you just said
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>>689066583
Yes, and I already told you, that's not a counter argument to what I said. I think taxation is fine as long as people get what they pay for. If I'm not receiving benefit from a social service, I have no moral obligation to pay for it. If I pay for roads and infrastructure, I expect to use them, which I can.
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>>689066516
>Hillary is for the working low class Americans
If she stopped the leftist pandering to BLM and other anti-white bullshit I would maybe believe that. All she does is race bait while niggers fuck over white communities.
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>>689066737
See? he does support immigrants and isn't a racist.
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>>689066690

Educated people hate Bernie.

People too stupid to major in a field that will lead to a productive career support him.

Go back to occupying Wall Street, you fucking worthless cuck.
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>>689066762

That's because Christfags want braindead, Republican voters, not well-educated students.
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>>689063879
most geeks are good with numbers but are beyond stupid with all else, more so than the average person.
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>>689066956
rekt
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Seems like both really stupid people and really intelligent people hate Bernie. Everyone between seems to like him.
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>>689060252
dont you have highschool exams to study for?
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>>689066848
That wasn't clear to me before. So what do you want, an itemized list at the end of the year of all the services you used, along with the individual and total cost?
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>>689066977
this a million fucking times over this.
Thankyou anon
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>>689055725
he's already out of the race. who cares?
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>>689055725
Besides the fact that he just went against everything he stands for by backing Hillary he's also a retarded pussy who doesn't even understand the basics of economics
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>>689066762
>comparing religious private schools to private for profit schools.

>>689066566
laugh right into that bread line you dirty commie
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>>689055725
Because he's a pussy, nothing of what he says will happen, he doesn't have to correct knowledge and negetiating skills like trump, plus his policies are shit. Like he wants to raise the minimum wage to $15!?!? That would be disastrous
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>>689066794
How about a bill passed by congress and senate.
HR 1813
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>>689066956
haha this is true. anti-trump faggots can all stfu now
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>>689067163
Yes, It's my moral obligation to pay for the services I use. No more, no less. Anything else is unjust. (Unless you give more through voluntary means)
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>>689055725
>voting for a jewish communist
not even once
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>>689066737
Most? Show us the numbers.
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>>689061526
Agree. Anyone who actually has enough money, not just a company worth a lot of money, but real, tangible money is called "old money" where as "new money" would never be allowed to participate in the 1%ers activities even if you had enough to be considered to be in the 1%. Being rich means nothing, having rich ancestors means everything
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>>689066981
True, but its a thousand dollars a week and healthcare... Just got to pretend to be christian is all.
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Can't possibly make everything free like he wants. Middle class will drift into being the poor class. There is nothing he can do to get that much money from the rich. Unemployment rate will go higher.
So tell what's ur rebuttal for likening him?
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>>689067180

Anyone that goes in to debt to get a degree in a "social science" or Liberal Art should be hanged.
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>>689067143

Don't you have a valid counterargument to his assertion?
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>>689059691
>>Hillary is also racist. There are pictures of her with KKK leaders
>Where are those pictures?

Here ya go.

http://truthfeed.com/kkk-donates-20k-to-their-favorite-candidate-hillary-clinton/1413/
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>>689067242
Both have the word Private in them....
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>>689062599
Uhhhh pretty sure that is going to happen anyway? No one's job is safe from the machines
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>>689055725
I don't hate the guy. I really don't. I even like some of his ideas.

I just don't think any of them are possible in our current economy. Doctors and Teachers will NOT work for free. Somebody has to pay for that shit and frankly, the 1% don't have that much money.
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>>689067528
I dunno, economics is a social science and that's pretty chill.
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>>689063879
>highschool cancer
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>>689067552
>pixels
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>>689058590
Bernie isn't white, he's a jew. Know the difference, it might just save your life
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>>689067394

You really aren't very smart, are you?
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>>689055725
Who cares. He's a loser with all you faggot sheep's money.
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>>689067598
He has a point, as machines become more complex they will replace the working man. Min wage may just speed it up a bit.
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Bernie fucking sanders wants all worthless, talentless, toilet cleaning niggers to get paid $15.00 an hour at mcdonalds because he feels they deserve it.
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
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>>689066774
The people of England paid higher taxes than those in the 13 colonies. After the French and Indian War the Crown, which had spent a fortune it didn't have to defend the colonies, decided to tax the colonies to pay for their own defense. Didn't go over well with the ham handed laws Parliament passed.
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>>689066524
OP's premise says:
>unjustified hate
By justifying your hate, you showed yourself to be a retard.
Thanks for playing, looser.
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>>689067449

1. Please try to actually educate them for once in their lives. We desperately need it.

2. Pretending to be a Christard is harder than you might think.
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>>689067377
In some cases that makes sense, like paying membership for the library. In some cases that can't work, like welfare, because obviously you can't pay for welfare. In some cases it would be absurd to give people the option to not pay for a service, like police and fire protection. There's enough history, even recent history, of private fire protection and why it is a dumb idea. Basically your neighbor gets fucked over if you don't get fire protection.
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>>689067798
Hey nothing wrong with McDonalds. I just want a chance to make more then min wage. Give me a chance for that raise and I will double there productivity.
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>>689067552
Robert Byrd quit the KKK decades ago and spent his entire political career working against them until he died lol

I'm not a bernie supporter OR a hillary supporter but this is just an idiotic argument. Byrd was an icon of the entire democrat party.
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>>689067598
Pretty much true. Been a cabinet maker for 15 years. Watched shop after shop automate and lay off workers.

It's not possible to completely automate a woodshop, some things are still too complex for robots to do. For now anyway. It's just a matter of time.
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>>689067764
>>689067598
Not exactly. Machines are very expensive to produce, operate, and manage. For simple jobs, it's realistically more affordable to hire a human worker.
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