Wow. That's a fucking bummer.

So some girl died , who cares .
The right's of citizens to bear arms is more important .

>>689025406
yeah, i know.

imagine all the times it stopped the government from trampling on your rights.

Yep, only the government should have guns. They're trustworthy.

>as soon as the people are disarmed, the martial law that has been in existence in this country since Lincoln will be publicly exposed and people will realize they no longer can use Constitutional claims, freedom, rights, and so forth, as a defense, and that they have no right to bear arms, they have no right to congregate, they have no freedom of speech, they have no rights in the courts of law to a fair trial by their peers.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/master_file/martiallaw.htm
you are doomed americunts

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>>689025406

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Luckily there was an american vigilante NRA-member hero that used his concealed pistol to stop the shooter.

Oh wait.

There wasn't.

Just like there never is.

>>689025086
Who was the victim?

What happened?

once again the clown of the world makes us all laugh
never change USA

>>689026306
https://youtu.be/qiAWsfHZvfU

This girl.

But it was a gun free zone! Why did he bring his gun in? It's illegal

I guess I missed the video where a magical gun flew in by itself and shot her up.

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>>689026764
Dear God please give me a sign that this is bait

>>689025086
Freedom ain't free

>>689025406
> people should have guns so they don't get killed
> people get killed by guns
> "the guns are more important than living"

Please, nuke yourselves.

>>689026072

There are millions of defensive gun uses in the US every year and you hear about maybe 2 or 3 of them on the national news. #1 they don't fit the narrative, #2 they don't end in tragedy so they don't boost viewership and ad sales.

This has nothing to do with guns you faggot.

>>689027032
/thread

>>689025574
> because drones, tanks, missiles, etc can be stopped by a handgun

>>689025086
I used to be on the fence about the issue, but this story is the needle the break the camel's back for me.

Its time we have some sort of gun regulation and background checks. Guns should be a privilege that can be taken away, not a right.

>>689025086
Best career move she ever made.

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>>689027090

It's America, the left was already churning out hashtags on twitter literally before her body had cooled.

Fuck this lil cunt bitch, they arnt going to take my guns away

>>689027090
KEK
10/10 hilarious bait

>>689027032

That's because suicides are boring.

>>689027090
So she got killed by a bullet that appeared in her chest of its own accord?
Muridumbs are amazing.

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>someone gets shot
>"IT'S THE GUN'S FAULT! BAN THEM ALL!"
If someone dies of fat-related heart disease, do you blame McDonalds or the person that died of heart disease? Exactly.

Just imagine if guns were banned and this headline would never have appeared. Instead it would be YOUNG SINGER STABBED AFTER CONCERT! Sure you can say it was easier with a gun but murders in public places against famous people without guns are nothing new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEx7uCFX_nA

Tools dont stop people from doing things just changes how they are done. A persons rights are far more important than some illusion of safety.

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>>689027204
Fact is, any regulation would only be lightly enforced, and anyone who wouldn't be able to get one themselves would easily be able to on the black market as so many others would have access.

>>689026927
please be bait yourself... his post is obvious sarcasm
when in doubt kill yourself

>>689027275
Except they do the same thing WITH CROSSBOWS, BOWS, BATS, KNIVES, SWORDS and anything else
You dumb nigger
Im not a murican either

>>689026927
I don't know why you think it's bait, gun free zones are supposed to keep people safe. We need to find out why they're not working.

>>689027275
>>689027239

When someone gets stabbed to death, do you go blaming knives? When someone is hit by a car and dies, do you want to ban cars? Fuck.

>>689027204
you mean so only the rich can have them?

>>689027275
no she got killed by a person using a gun. There is a difference between claiming its the gun's fault, and claiming it is the gun user's fault

>>689027368
there's no way the guy could have killed her that easily if guns weren't available to public.

>>689027275
you just typed out 'muridumbs' and thought it was a good idea to continue with posting it....

>>689027387
If the tools don't matter, then why have guns to reinforce your 'rights' anyway? According to your logic, everyone would be able to protect themselves with knives.

>>689027178
>Silly colonist, you'll never defeat the Crown and all the weapons at its disposal.

>be American
>gun regulations everywhere
>Hey I want to shoot up place
>go to a place where no guns are allowed

LIKE SCHOOLS WHERE YOU HAVE GUN FREE ZONES, YEAH THAT'S REAL EASY. FUCKING FAGGOTS. DON'T YOU FUCKING READ AND UNDERSTAND FACTS.

SHOOTERS ALWAYS LOOK UP PLACES WHERE GUN'S AREN'T ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY WON'T GET ANY FUCKING RESISTANCE

OH LOOK A GUY WITH A GUN IN A GUN FREE ZONE. WELL DAMNIT DIDN'T HE READ THE SIGN? I GUESS SIGN'S DON'T REALLY WORK TO STOP GUN VIOLENCE

FUCKING STUPID FUCKS.

Why do people complain about things like this, animals have been killing each other for centuries. They will always kill rape and gamble you cannot stop it.

>>689027387
What about the right to live ?

>>689025086

Well, it's not like you can'T stab people.

>>689026962
Don't be such a pussy and do the nuking, faggot.

Fug

>>689025614
the tinfoil is real

>>689027591

She was signing autographs. She was literally within arms reach of anyone who wanted to do anything to her. You think she couldn't have been stabbed?

>>689027630

Because bad guys including the state would still have guns you faggot.

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One less woman! World's a little brighter

>>689026860
It's not the floating gun that is the argument. obviously the gun never killed anyone on it's own. The argument (for some reason) is that putting a gun in someone's hand automatically makes them a potential killer, and less guns means less threat.

What they all fail to see in their own argument is the mental illness related to pulling the trigger. But that's typical regressionist left for you.

>>689027519
knives are made for cutting food and many more things
cars are made for transporting
guns are made to kill

>>689027517
It is almost like people who decide they want to do something illegal have no issue breaking the law.
We need a law that makes it so you can't break other laws!

>>689027519
>When someone gets stabbed to death, do you go blaming knives?

The English can't have knives.

>>689027204

>Its time we have some sort of gun regulation and background checks

There's already a whole heaping asston of regulation and a government operated system for running background checks (NICS). Every time you buy a gun from an FFL, you fill out a form 4473 and that is used to run your information against a national database.

>Guns should be a privilege that can be taken away, not a right.

That's not how it works in the US. Move to Canada.

>>689027854

Not all killing is necessarily wrong though.

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>>689026072
This.
I like America, but on this subject they are fucking retarded.

>>689027032
Millions? Where are you getting your statistics from?

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>>689026955
There's a hefty fuckin' fee?

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>>689025086
>some entertainer dies
>but guns are ruining the world around me

cry like a bitch. it wont change anything.

>>689027797
they are counting on people shrugging it off as "too ridiculous to be real".

Is there a video of the shooting

>>689027649
/thread

>>689027854
They are also made for target shooting. I enjoy target shooting and don't even hunt.

>>689027630

The tools do matter im just saying if you cant get an axe youll use a shovel so banning all the axes is retarded. There are many legitimate uses for firearms and just because some asshats do stupid shit with them doesnt mean they need to be banned. The illusion of safety is a joke.

>>689027715
Shit happens. You cant protect all rights all the time. That guy that had a heart attack that nobody knows or cares about had a right to live also but his death wasnt as important from a clickbait news media or agenda pushing so nobody cares.

>>689027804
the motion of brandishing a knife and getting close enough to deliver a fatal stab is not as quick as firing a gun from the hip.

you do know that in most countries around the world, even carrying knife with you is illegal without a permit

>>689026072
>This

Every time I see a story like this I think this

>I better not shoot anybody who isn't black in case I get sued

>>689027218
Hold my poop

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>>689027387
>>689027387
>>689027387

You are a fucking Koala.

>>689028166

So is killing someone, but that doesn't really stop anyone from doing it, does it?

Just like the guy probably wasn't brandishing his gun before he shot her, a theoretical stabber wouldn't be brandishing his knife either, he would wait until the last second.

>>689027923
idiot must be thinking that mere ownership of a gun constitutes active defense. that's as good as sayyy i dunno, putting a lock on your door for defensive uses.

>>689027804
you think most people willing to shoot someone would be willing to stab? Most woudln't

>>689027854

Considering guns kill fewer people in the US each year than cars do I think you're bullshitting.

Yeah if only we had restrictive gun laws, like in Brazil.

>>689027204
>Its time we have some sort of gun regulation and background checks.
The U.S. already does. Unless the shooting the OP is talking about happened somewhere else in the world.

>>689028166

The act of using a knife can be much faster and deadlier than you think. On average a man can close a gap of 30 feet or so before a person can draw and train a gun on you.

>Its illegal so it wont happen!
Then why the fuck was someone killed? Isnt murder illegal?

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>>689025574
>this pleb believing that in case the government wanted to take power by force, or do whatever for that matter by the use of weapons, he would stick a glock in their mouths and make a brain slushie

This is the most lameass excuse I've heard in favor of the 'muh gunz' argument. And that's saying something, considering there are mouth breathers who say 'well, uhm..if she had a gun this wouldn't of happened.'

>>689027804

>Because bad guys including the state would still have guns you faggot.

This fucking wild west mentality of "they have guns so we must have guns" is so fucking bullshit. It's always the cops anyway who stop these shooters (that is when they don't kill themselves). Defensive use of guns is so marginal that it has no impact on anything really.

i cant tell if everyone in this thread is actually retarded or if its a giant bait

>>689027178
#middleeast

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The argument that shooters will find a gun legal or not is fucking retarded, all the people you see on the news that shoot up place are skinny white nerds with no friends.


pic unrelated

>>689027410

A "home defense weapon" is much more likely to be used for committing suicide than actual home defense.

>>689027368
Do you even realise what you are saying?

A country that let's fat people take McDonald's to court and win because they are fat. McDonald's was blamed you stupid amerifatcunt. McDonald's had to drastically change ALL their stores world wide to include nutritional information because America sided with the fat cunt.

>>689027032
>millions
Stop pulling out facts off your ass.

>>689027178
Ever hear of the wars in the middle east
Or Vietnam
Try harder

Wait so who killed her?

>>689028353
well, I wouldn't go down the 'How many people are getting killed in gun related events in the U.S. each year' road, chap. It's really not something to be proud of.

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>>689025086
I don't understand OPs argument. If this chick or her brother had been known to open carry. The guy who killed her would have thought twice about it.

Criminals only pull on law biding citizens because they know those people aren't armed.

Even at sandy hook. If the shooter knew all the teachers were carrying he wouldn't have attacked the school The same way you never see people go into a police station to shoot cops.

>>689028353
you're comparing accidents with murders

>>689028626
It's America, everything comes out their arses because they'll eat anything

When I found out about this, I felt....
Nothing. I don't care. At all. Fuck you rest of the world. Guns are fun as fuck. Suck my nuts.

>>689026306

AMERICA WAS

>>689028576

You're trying to shoehorn a mental health issue into a gun issue and it's doing zero good for mental health reform in the US to demonize both the mentally ill and gun owners.

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>>689028745
Yea, we figured as much.

>>689026072
True. And the gif made me chuckle

>>689025086
>>689025086
>bataclan.jpg

>>689027519

You are not allowed to have a bladed weapon on your person.
As for a car, you need to go through a ton of hoops and mandatory education to receive the license + have an insurance.

So both are regulated, because they are dangerous. Guns are not regulated enough considering how dangerous they are.

>>689025086
This is why I can't take Americans seriously anymore.

They love their guns more than their families and neighbours...

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>>689028690
A white male.

Only no gunz cucks make these threads cause they jelly.
Keep crying while I cuddle with all my guns

Guns are cooler than some twat

They transcend the pussy.

>>689028715
By that logic, let's arm every single person in the world....no one will shoot anyone else because they will all be carrying gun.
Fucking U S of fucking A

>>689028745
here's the 15 year old

>>689027854
Guns are made to shoot a projectile
Target is irrelevant

>>689028698

Remove blacks from those numbers and the US is among the safest countries on earth. Funny, that.

>>689028287
it makes it harder. we can drag this argument forever, we can ban knives and you will say it won't stop the killer because he will use his chi-powered fist to punch a hole in Christina Grimmie's face
people ban guns to prevent gun-related murders. does it lead to an increase knife-related incidents? gee, maybe it does! but you dont see it making the bloody news for the whole world to see because those poor blokes probably survived the whole ordeal.

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The foreigners are just jealous that they've been neutered by their government.

Nothing but skinny pale kids with shitty band T-shirts.


Deal with it. God Bless The Most Powerful Nation in the World.


Deal.
With.
It.

>>689028715

No he wouldn't, he killed himself after he killed her. So it would have been the exact same situation, except maybe his brother would have shot some bystander in the leg as he panics and starts blasting away.

>>689028745
This is you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ViOAUNuq58

>>689029030
no, just no

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>>689028965
Everyone in the world has the right to defend their own lives. Freedom is messy. But you don't get to take it away from people just because you feel it could be dangerous.

>>689025086
You're stupid because killing people is our pastime.

>>689028725
Different anon, but 2/3 of all gun-related deaths in the US are suicides. Sadly, both they and accidental deaths are generally lumped together with murders when gun violence numbers are trotted out.

>>689028935

>You are not allowed to have a bladed weapon on your person.

Yes, I am. I carry a knife to work with me every day.

>>689029120

>God Bless The Most Powerful Nation in the World

What does China have to do with this?

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>>689025086
Does anyone know what morgue she's located in so I can go fuck her corpse?

>>689025086
she was a loser anyway

context: she lost on The Voice

who cares?

is there a vid?

>>689029274
Kek

>>689029193

This is mostly because many of the people that obsess over these statistics are trying to push their agenda. Its the same thing when they go BUT THERE WERE ONLY 5 FIREARM DEATHS IN ENGLAND!

There were 0 on the moon. That doesnt mean its a good comparison.

>>689028460
these cunts are too blind, i tell you, too blind to see that the very possibility of owning a gun leads to the apparent violence dished out by the police in their country. if i'm a police officer in a country where guns are legal, i'll choke, strangle and kick any suspects till they are in cuffs just in case they pull out a gun from their pants or something

She wasn't even that hot anyway. Not a major loss.

>>689029142
Don't get to take what away? Freedom or guns

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>>689029275

>>689029375
It is a good comparison because there's no people living on the moon retard

>>689028808

It's not shoehorning. If the guns were more strictly regulated, mentally ill would have much harder time getting their hands on them. Including school shooters and the likes.

I the UK they these chucks don't even have the right to defend demselves even with a rape whistle.


They can get in legal trouble if their rapist ears get damaged by the sound of the rape whistle.

>>689029408
To take one is to take the other.

You have a better chance of being shot at a concert in Europe than you do in the US.

>>689028031
This anon is right, you know.

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>>689029480
Fuck off

>>689029381

>i'll choke, strangle and kick any suspects till they are in cuffs

Yeah, they did that. It spawned the BLM movement. Way to think things through.

>>689025086
Guns already exist. Criminals have them. The government is targeting law abiding people to prevent them from protecting themselves from criminals. Take every single gun from every single criminal, then let's talk about gun control.

>>689029193
then again, guns are made to kill, yourself or someone else, but to kill
a car is made to live

>>689029555

Statistically, you aren't wrong.

>>689027825
bruh

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>>689025086
Who is this and why should I care?

>>689029506

Thats fun because there are practically no guns in england. Funny thing that is. You cant compare two statistics from two places when they are missing something required to make the comparison.

>>689029547
You being serious? You think guns = freedom?
Fuck me hahaha
We have guns in Scotland, they are just strictly regulated and not every man and his 'tarded brother can get their hands on one easily.
I don't have a gun but I'm free to go about my day like I do every other day and drink with friends at the weekend, take my boys to football and go out on our motorbikes. But I know you're going to say I don't actually have any freedom right?

>>689029375
Absolutely.

I'm in favor of better gun regulation, but primarily just getting rid of the gun show loophole. It won't really do anything about the illegal guns already circulating among the criminal sector, but it would help to further embolden the line between a legally-purchased firearm and an illegally-purchased one. And, IMO, that's where the starting point for rational regulation needs to begin.

>>689029141
gun
ɡən/
noun
1.
a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.

>>689029630
dont bully me!!!!!!!
your gf looks dead XD

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>>689026962
>people get killed by guns
>we should ban guns so people stop getting killed
>people still getting killed by guns
>why aren't criminals following the law??

humans kill each other, get over yourself faggot

>>689025086
It's embarrassing, no one ever gets killed by guns in the rest of the world. I wish I lived in a safe place like France, Belgium or Norway where violence never happens, or a crime-free city like London.

>>689028321
This is the ONLY thing I can agree with, .. BUT
No one would go knife vs knife

So when there is someone running amok with a knife, people woulndt go 1v1 the retard.
They would maybe hold their own if it comes to it, but that other knife holder would change person to attack with the knife.

>>689029381

Not to mention that "bad guys would still have guns" is a statement about the state of law enforcement in the US, and not a pro-gun argument.

>>689029547
Wow, now I know why people think we're retards

>>689029988
KEK

>>689027368
Yeah, I mean, how often does not people throw happy meals and big macs at you so you get fat?
I mean that is what is happening right?

Do you hear how fucking stupid you are?
McDonalds makes very unhealthy food, but no one is forcing it down your throat, which means you're responsible for what you do with it.
While a large majority of gun killings, are not people shooting themselves, but others shooting them. See the difference?
A fat American gets fat because of themself eating.
A shot American does in most cases get shot, because someone else shot them.

Have 4chan really gotten this retarded?

>>689029709
Guns are made to shoot a projectile
Target irrelevant


gun
ɡən/
noun
1.
a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.

I'm all for gun rights. Check this out:

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article83010847.html

Here's a story about why guns are a good thing.

For what it's worth, I knew the deceased. Grew up just down the road. Was a good guy, but got drunk and confused.....long story short, he became the intruder. Paid the price.

>>689029871

Rational regulation is just about fine as it is though. Private sales not needing a background check is a bit sketchy but everythign else about the current system is pretty solid. Having some kind of giant database with all the gun serial numbers and such is just plain retarded and a waste of time though.

>>689025086
>tfw the American murder rate is unremarkable compared to other countries
>tfw lefties are obsessed with the particular weapon used rather than the violence per se because they have a visceral dislike of Americans who tend to own guns, namely the white, rural, and religious.

>>689029791
But the obvious statistics they are trying to compare is with a country that has guns vs a country that doesn't. Fuck sake are you stupid or something?

>>689027649
Crown didn't have jets, crown didn't have drones, crown didn't have tanks, crown didn't have helicopters, crown didn't have cruise missiles, Crown didn't have NSA. Do you get how dumb you are now, or do I need to go on?

Also, French intervention is the only reason the revolution succeeded

Lrn2history faggot

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>>689030093
Well, this IS /b/ anon...

>>689029649
>BLM movement
shame though, they're creating all these bullshit about BLM movement, rape culture, etc. to divert the fact that the very foundations on which their nation was founded is flawed and should be subject to change. almost every other country in the world challenges the redundancy or obsolescence in passing or addressing laws.

>>689029630

WTF man not this! Too soon

>>689029917

>it shouldn't be a law because criminals don't obey the law

So all laws are just useless then?

If there is less guns, there is less illegal guns.

And humans kill each other anyway yes, but much less effectively with knives and fists than automatic weapons.

>>689029630
i'm 12 and what is this?

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>>689025086
If guns were banned, psychos would still be able to get em and the same for every criminal that is not a total asshole, but noone else could defend with one themselves so I don't think that would solve the problem.
Not murrican btw

why dont kill miley cyrus or justin bieber . american pigs

>>689030012
That's exactly what we need, a far-reaching police force that has the power to disarm everyone, keep everyone safe. A police state would be so much better than the world Americans live in now.

>hurr durr 6 million people are saved every year by defensive use of guns
I've never understood why retards regurgitate this statistic. If we take it at face value, it means that USA is literally a worse place to live in than third world shitholes like Somalia, yet it is used to brag about how guns make america safer

>>689029871

>getting rid of the gun show loophole

The issue is that it isn't a loophole, it's a private transaction between two individuals.

>>689028103
you can't name a legitimate use for firearms because it doesn't exist. everything you say or tell yourself is information based on gun politics enforced by the US government. arguing about it is pointless, you have been brainwashed your entire life.

But that was a gun free zone! This never should have been able to happen! He wasn't supposed to have a gun in there!

>>689030489
>biggest tragedy since WWII in nations history
>Average week in USA
Oh, yeah, the latter one is much better

>>689027854
>guns are made to kill
Guns are made to eliminate threats.
You take away threats, then guns won't be used for it.
You take away guns but don't do anything about the threats.
You gon have a bad time.
That easy enough for you to understand heartbleed?

>>689030390
"Automatic weapons" translates to
I currently know almost nothing about current gun laws and will never own a gun

>>689030645
>But that was a gun free zone! This never should have been able to happen! He wasn't supposed to have a gun in there!

>>689028945
hopefully not all of them

I blame over prescribing of Psychiatric medicine, Sedentary lifestyles, And additives in our food for the general insanity of america. Also bad culture.

>>689030390
>And humans kill each other anyway yes, but much less effectively with knives and fists than automatic weapons
do you know what an automatic weapon actually is?
>>689030577
>you can't name a legitimate use for firearms because it doesn't exist
Hunting target shooting and person protection
>>689030695
>Average week
>pulling shit out of my ass

>>689030241

The foundations are fine. The culture as it has come to be today is rotting from within and you can thank progressives for allowing it to go unchecked. It's been a gradual but consistent downward slide until more recently, when it turned into a complete shitshow.

>>689025086
the simple fact is America is a bullyish, violent country. the country wasn't founded on peace, love, and Thanksfuckinggiving, but genocide, slavery, and gun powder. gun culture is pervasive in a majority of the country and while a majority of gun owners aren't violent offenders and never will be, the few who do act out do so in heinous ways enough so to call into question why stricter gun controls aren't in place.

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>>689025513
There's no need for imagination, you Limey faggot. Have fun being asshurt on your shitty rainy island we've confined you to, you bitch.

>>689030715
Guns are made to shoot a projectile
Target irrelevant
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>>689030498

It takes a big ego to say you would rather have a gun yourself than an efficient, well trained police force.

And banning guns doesn't exactly make it a police state now does it?

>>689029480
Fuck you

>>689030498
the country actually acknowledges gangs like Crips and Bloods for reasons i can never fathom. in my country, no one gives two cents about any gangs because they have no potential to rekt shit up. in americano, people have to live by these degenerates because they might just kill Tupac again.
>RIP Tupac

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>>689030183
I have no problem at all laying down my life in defense of ideals greater than myself - in this case, free will, private property, liberty, and responsibility.
>isn't that the same as what you leftists believe? That an individual's life is nothing next to the People, or the Revolution?

>>689030390
Less legal guns only means more illegal guns, shithead.

Existing legal guns aren't going anywhere, make them illegal and they're still not going anywhere, they're just illegal now.

God, you're smart.

>>689029193
you do realize some of those suicids happen because killing yourself with a gun makes it pretty fucking easy ?
it does make sense to count those deaths as an argument against guns

>>689030175

This has to be some kind of bait here nobody is that stupid to not see the obvious point that was made. Wait what am i saying much of the population are flat out retarded of course people can be that dumb.

You cant compare deaths by drowning in Louisiana and the Sahara and get any kind of meaningful data because the one simply lacks the amount of water to get any meaningful data from. Understand? The only way to compare two different places is to take the TOTAL number of deaths and see how the rate for the one particular item influences it. So with murders you take the TOTAL number of murders and compare it to the TOTAL population of the two countries then compare the amount of deaths from particular ways while keeping those facts in mind.

So if there are 10 murders in 1000 deaths 5 of which are gun related in the us thats 5/1000. If there are 10 murders out of 1000 deaths 1 of which is gun related its 1/1000. Then you compare. One has FIVE TIMES the gun related deaths! OH MY! But wait! The amount of actual murders is still the same! So the amount of gun related deaths means JACK SHIT. And that is exactly what you get when you compare the US and any other semi civilized nation on the planet. More gun deaths comparable murder rates.

>>689029917
If guns don't kill people but people kill people

Doesn't that mean toasters don't toast bread, toast toast toast?

>>689030766
>11,000 gun homocides per year in USA
>divide by 52
>211
You're right, I was wrong. The average week in USA is actually worse than the wrost thing that happened in 70 years in france

>>689031011
More like ours aren't just hooligans they're nationwide syndicates With a penchant for extremely violent crimes.

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>>689026072

That's because they are responsible law abiding gun owners. The venue doesn't allow for responsible gun owners to carry on their premises. You know... Same as a gun free school zone that ends up covered in childrens blood. But whatever spin your narrative.

>>689030874
think back to all the countries europe has invaded and stolen from. europe sucks and so do you.

>>689030981
Implying police are everywhere always

I'd rather have no fire alarms or fire extinguisher because I know there are firefighters

Terrible logic

>>689031099
No it doesn't. Because it's not the government's job to stop people from killing themselves in any event.

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>>689030577

>you can't name a legitimate use for firearms because it doesn't exist
>you have been brainwashed your entire life

I want you to sit there and just think about this, I mean really think about this.

>>689031183
People have to press the button that toasts that bread, man

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>>689029121
No he didn't. Her brother tackled him and the gun went off killing him. The guy panned to go back home. it wasn't a murder suicide

>>689031203
You implied that Bataclan massacres happen in America on a weekly basis. Stop flailing around with the goalposts.

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>>689031240
are you like actually proud of this

>>689027204
It's not like a criminal who would wanna hurt somebody would illegally buy a gun. They have better morals than that.
Fucking faggot

>>689025086
all these Second Amendment lovers don't notice that rarely, if ever, do we read about guns being used for legitimate self defense. More often we read about kids killing kids, their parents or themselves in gun accidents.

>>689030766
hunting? murdering animals so you can eat them or make trophies for your walls? go hunt with a knife or don't hunt. population control can be done easily with traps, no guns needed.
target shooting? for what? training how to use a firearm against living objects?
person protection? against other firearms? no need for that if guns are banned. good security personnel don't need guns to protect someone.

can't you see that you are just confirming what i said about being brainwashed? just think about it for yourself...

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>>689031253

And by your logic, you would rather have a fire alarm than a fire department.

Reasoning is not your strong point is it?

>>689027218
Underrated toast

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>>689029917
Where is the bin that dispenses "lifes" ?

Was the shooter testing if she was Titanium?

>>689031499

Thats mostly because a headline that reads GIANT BABY KILLING MACHINE SLAUGHTERS WHOLE FAMILY sells more than MAN DEFENDS HIMSELF WITH GUN.

>>689031499
If a woman defends herself from a rapist with her gun and I don't read about it in the New York times does it make it sound?

>>689031499
See
>>689030123

It's recent, happened Friday

>>689031405
>it's ok because the same amount of people died but they weren't in the same room
lol

>>689031499
Implying they fit the bs owned media's agenda
They happen libs don't care or the media

>>689031556
>I can't possibly understand the hobbies of other people so they should be banned.

>>689031685
>211 homicides a week out of 320 million people

>>689031556
>hunting? murdering animals so you can eat them or make trophies for your walls?
lmao

>>689025086
getting rid of guns wont stop people from getting them. and it'll probably make more people just go around stabbing people or making bombs. doesnt matter what weapon they used, its the fucked up people in this world that are the problem.

also, if youre trying to use the murder of one girl to make fun of america, maybe study up a little on almost every country in south america

>>689030390
>So all laws are just useless then?

A law against heroin doesn't put free citizens at a disadvantage.

A law against guns does.

>>689029480
Fuck off

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>>689025614
EUROPE
Look on the map

>>689031556
You're making a fool of yourself.
I'm saying that in a friendly manner.

You should probably stop posting now.

>>689028393
If someone else there had a gun, she would have been fine. Maybe if her brother had a gun, but no. Everyone on /b/ thinks that we should live in the badlands where all guns are banned

I'm from Marlton, NJ, same home town as this girl.

The issue here is not about the gun itself, but the shooter. Apparently this nation needs a better way to help those with violent psychological issues so that innocent people don't get hurt. inb4 she's dead, she can't feel pain now. Everyone who knew her and loved her is in pain right now. This goes for everyone else whose loved ones were killed by someone with a psychological problem. This was a senseless act that could have been prevented.

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>>689030183
I get how dumb you are, yes. But, do, please go on. You're fun.

>>689025086
doesn't matter how many people get killed by guns in America. It doesn't change the reason behind gun ownership. And if you're naive enough to believe that the people in charge won't take advantage of those they rule over, or abuse their power, then I think you need to spend more time with humans. It's kind of a theme we have.

>>689025513
thread should have ended here.

>>689031592
in my country (not murrica btw), if you have fire alarm, or a fire extinguisher at home, you'd be deemed too much of a worrier.
that's how modern countries work to address problems, you enforce strict regulations for potential fire hazards and only approve fire retardant materials for housing. freedom of choosing materials for our housing? none! freedom to not give a care about fires? absolutely!

LIFE IS BUT A WALKING SHADOW

A POOR PLAYER WHO STRUTS AND FRETS HIS HOUR UPON THE STAGE AND IS HEARD NO MORE.

IT'S A TALE TOLD BY AN IDIOT, FULL OF SOUND AND FURY, SIGNIFYING NOTHING.

>>689031095

>being this fucking stupid

Australia tightened gun laws back in the '90s and gun owners were given a compensation to turn in their guns. And they did, millions of them. And lo and behold, crime rates dropped throughout the continent.

>>689031344
ah, the brainwashed man asking me to use my brain. think about what? you only need guns if others threaten you with guns. bans guns and you don't need them anymore.

as for africa or the middle east, fuck them. let them have guns and kill each other, but that's just a problem they wouldn't have if there were no guns.

you probably want me to accept that we can't get rid of guns because everyone now knows how to make them. but force gunmakers to raise their prices by 10000% and see what happens.

>>689031203
Which MOST are from suicide. Stop with your insanity!

>>689028583
Yes. America is retarded. We know

>>689031556
Animal populations are tracked closely hence tags for hunting, yes I shoot animals to eat, instead of going to the store to buy my meat

Target shooting for fun, sport, competitions. Aka hobbies things that people like

Protection, idk any dangerous person, trained fighter, bigger than me, group of people, wild animal


Any other questions

>>689031800
>it's okay to have the equivalence of a national tragedy every week because there are more of us
Oh, look who's moving the goalposts now? Anyways:
>320 mil americans
>65 mil french
>'bout 5 times more americans
>211/5 = 42
Oh I'm sorry, taking your population into account you have the worst thing that has happened since WWII in france every MONTH, not every week. Surely this makes it much better

>>689031719
i understand hobbies. but why do you have to use guns as a hobby? right, because you were brainwashed. get a real hobby, use your brain.

>>689032207
> definition of brainwashed

Don't kid yourself.
I'm not murritard either but I'm not a complete retard.

>>689030545
>If we take it at face value
If we take your comment at face value, you've never understood anything.

>>689032207
comparing Australia to america in any way

>>689027700
I like you

>>689032393
Good counter point

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Killer little bro here, Justin bieber is next.

>>689031592
I have both available to me
That was my point, apparently it wasn't obvious

>>689032417
Oh I'm sure he knows and is just trolling

Or he actually really is fucking missing some brain matter

>>689032207
>throughout the continent
95% of which has like .01 people/sq km.
And I don't think that's true about crime. May have to look for data. May decide I don't care enough.

>>689031841
you left out the part with the alternative hunting methods. otherwise it's just shooting stuff, which you need guns for, because you were brainwashed. you also lack basic text comprehension.

>>689025086
We're weeding out the weak. Ours will be the most glorious nation ever to grace the world.

>>689030695

Maybe if you didn't suck at fighting so much, more people would die in your country more often

Another thing you suck at

>>689031900

But you said that criminals don't follow the law, thus the law is pointless.

And heroin too used to be legal and widely used until people realized it's fucking stupid and made a law against it.

>>689025086
NRA here... guns don't kill people. "people kill"
its not like a dog ever picked up a gun and killed someone.
its not like sane people are just picking up guns and shooting in the air until someone gets hit.
NRA supports your 2nd amendment rights. OP's dont let me down

>>689030432
yeah because of all that gun crime in the UK and Australia is fucking awful man

Lots of mad little euro faggots in here. How many niggers follow gun laws? Keep importing a million muslims a year and you will wish you werent disarmed and feminized.

>>689032514
do it
please

>1 in 3 people legally have a gun
>country flooded with guns
>faggots pussyache about the guns
>government tries to take guns
>now only criminals have guns

Way to go stupid nigs. There is no solution to shootings. The damage has been done, decades before us--there's too many guns to take. Restrictions would only fuck the problem worse. Maybe gun safety and training would be a good idea instead of teaching fear.