>>689009664
you're not very good with socialising, are you?

>asking a woman what she thinks
Nothing wrong with it, OP

>>689009664
Yes and you should feel ashamed. If you're gonna be a degenerate and own a fuckhole, at least get a Japanese onahole.

>>689009664
You haven't asked any woman at all op have you? You just think they think its disgusting, c'mon be honest

>>689009664
Your action of asking females the question "it's weird and disgusting?" does not relate to the conclusion, that owning a fleshlight is wrong.

>>689009664
A man owning a fleshlight is as weird and disgusting as a woman owning a dildo.

>>689009664
Sex toys for men are seen differently by the world

>>689009994
>asking a woman what she thinks
you shouldn't generalise. i don't think it's any weirder than me owning a dildo.

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my gf bought me this as a goof:
>fleshie.com/stamina-training-unit-fleshlight-review/

>mfw it feels better than her pussy

>>689009664
They are just reactionaries trying to change your perception of reality with their judgmental bullshit.

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>>689010805

>>689009664
>Is there something wrong with owning a fleshlight
no, who gives a fuck
buy one if you want one

>>689010573
>Implying you're a girl
>Implying you're not just a trap with a masculine penis that takes a rubber dick up his(her) butt.

>>689010805
Your inflatable doll bought you a flashlight?

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>>689011245
>projecting this hard

It's equivalent to a girl owning a dildo, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

>>689011738
Yeah pretty much
Own a vibrator as a woman - empowering
Own a fleshlight as a man - disgusting, pathetic etc

don't try to fuck with the value of pussy...

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>>689010805

>>689009664
>Is there something wrong with owning a fleshlight
no you faggot

which one should i get??

>>689013086
yes there is

>>689013390
how so?

>>689010989
Lost

>>689013614
Because being so desperate that you'd stick your dick in a piece of plastic is not something that you'd like everybody to know about yourself.

>>689010245
/thread

>>689013841
is it desperate to masturbate with your hand?
is a girl desperate if she uses a vibrator or a dildo?

>>689013360
Stoya Destroya

>>689013360
japanese onahole, double layer

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>>689010524
Rationally yeah, but then the double standards come in and a grill with toys is perfectly acceptable and 'you go grill', while a dude with a fuckhole is a degenerate creep

>>689010081
Yeah, what is wrong with you

>>689014130
thinking about buying that or the stu
have you tried the stu?

>>689014228
son, do you hate america?

>>689014446
WANT!

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>>689010805

>>689014575
I have 2 and i prefer it over the other wich is the mini Lotus

>>689015043
i'll get stoya and stu, idgf
good looking out anon

>>689015570
No problem anon

>>689014125
oh look, an argument with no replies. I guess you win
/thread

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You think I give a fuck what people think?

>>689009664
>>689010536
>>689010883
>>689011175
>>689011738
>>689012333
>>689013086
>>689013390
>>689013841
>>689014125
>>689014446

Fleshlights destroy the value of pussy, whereas dildos/vibrators increase the value of pussy by increasing it's rarity. This is why it is socially acceptable for women to use masturbation aids while socially unacceptable for men.

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>>689016121
thats what i'm saying

>>689016179
How the fuck does a dildo "increase the rarity"? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>689016179
>the value of pussy
What even

>>689014446
I agree, dildo is one of those things that's empowering for women as not only can it "substitute" for a man but but we all now (men and women) are turned on by and encourage female masturbation even if it's arguably about as messy and "disgusting"... The ironic thing is women are perceived as doing it for pleasure whether men are looked at as satisfying a need, which for some reason makes it wrong...

>>689016452
>>689016489
I'm not the dude, but how the fuck is this unclear to you fags?

>>689016666
Quads of fucking truth

>>689016452
Reducing the need for sexual interaction with men.

>>689016489
If you haven't figured out that pussy is a commodity, you're a few thousand years behind the times.
Sex is a driving force in the economy. It's why we wake up in the morning. It's why we invent, fight, compete, go to school, or acquire wealth.

>>689016775
Either you are "that dude" or you're just on the same level with him on the autism spectrum
Or explain it in a way that isn't retarded

>>689016954
preach nigga

>>689016954
So what you're saying is that my dick is as rare as a diamond because I'm a virgin?

>>689016954
This guy knows what he's talking about

>>689017299
dick has no value

>>689017299
No, because "dick" and "pussy" are generic; it doesn't really matter who or what you're getting it from as long as you're getting it. This is why masturbation aids diminish their value.

>>689017262
To your face... How many of them are you fucking?

>>689017479
Double fucking standard

>>689009664
Because it's about controlling male access to sexual pleasure, same reason that any female masturbation is seen as empowering whereas guys only jack it if they're single and can't get any

>>689009664
Meanwhile they're fucking anything phallic shaped.

>>689009664
i bought one this week, i kinda feel ashamed but its super awesome

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>>689017777
dem quads

>>689017503
OK I can understand that it diminishes their value
I don't see how dildos raise the value of pussy still, just because they prefer dildo over real sex?
If anything that decreases the value because that bitch loosens that pussy more

>>689009664
Got one of these as a teenager. Soaked in hot water, lubed and wrapped a duvet around it. I nutted in about 10 seconds and the whole street probably heard me nut.

The wife now wants to buy me one so she can wank me furiously with it.

>>689017635
I agree, although keep in mind this is perception, even on those periods in my life in which I was getting pussy like crazy I was still jerking off plenty... Man, even with my ex (we were dedicating full weekends to fucking) doin it 2-3 times on slow days, I still had to jerk off daily... It was fucking awesome when we hit that point of just masturbating in front of each other...

>>689017777
Quads of truth

>>689016666
Quads don't lie, and I totally agree with you. It's fucked up, and I'd love to ask a tumblrina for an opinion on that.

>>689017841
i bought mine a month ago and i feel no shame what so ever. shit is fucking cash.

>>689016666
>>689017777
All these quads!

>>689018298
>loosens the pussy

Okay anon. Your virginity is showing. Put it away.

>>689018298
Because each time she decides to use her dildo there's one less on the market...

>>689018575
>Put it away.
Okay.

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>>689011245
absolutely savage, m8

>>689016666
But muh patriarchy!

>>689018575
But I want someone to take it, I can't just keep it for myself

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>>689009994
trips of truth

>>689018396
Oh yeah for sure, but it's just the standard societal perception that jacking off is something only lonely single men (creeps) do.

>>689018911
Nice quads!

>>689018910
someone will knock on your door any minute now
just keep waiting

>>689018911
that's not trips newfag

>>689018396
>It was fucking awesome when we hit that point of just masturbating in front of each other...
That is freakin' awesome I agree

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>>689018979
what do you mean i have double

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>>689012333
Chek

>>689017613
Nope. Its easier for a woman to get dick than a man to get pussy(in a situation where one isn't paying for sex). Thus the pussy is more valuable than dick.
A man (usually) would go though many dates to finally get in her pants. While a woman can literally ask to fuck and a horny man will happily oblige(for the most part).

>>689019047
My body is ready anon, today I will become a man

>>689009664
The females hate it because it threatens the power they have over you.

>>689018479
If you asked a feminist she would tell you it's the same and that you should feel empowered... Deep down however she, and every other woman in the conversation, will look at you with contempt... It's not an intellectually defensible position, it just is... The irony is while changing perceptions on this would in theory weaken the patriarchy and maybe even fight rape culture by not making it an imperative for men to satisfy themselves through women, deep down feminists know it takes power away from them, so other than some ocasional acknowledgement they won't give two fucks about young boys, or even grown men, not feeling like shit because they're doing something natural, on the contrary they'll subconsciously encourage this

>>689009664
Nah, sex toys for men are disqusting. When a woman has a dildo they "embrase" they're sexuality. When a man has a sex toy he is automatically a creep

>>689016666
I'd argue that satisfying a need, such as eating, should be more acceptable and less frowned upon, than the selfish pursuit of seeking pleasure.

>>689019360
>Posting it again

>>689019259
Yes that's true but its still a double standard, I think.
Its an unfairly applied rule to men but I guess we just make it that way because of how society sets up gender roles.
Can't do anything about it but its still unfair that women can fuck whenever they want.
So its a double standard

>>689018911
>being this new

>>689019374
>they won't give two fucks about young boys, or even grown men

i agree with you 100%
but no one gives a fuck about men and boys in general though. I don't want to go full whiney MRA here but its true.

>>689019999
Taking the bait this har ..wha?! quads?

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>>689010805
Keked hard

>>689019360
this image was quite clearly made by a butthurt tumblrina

if you've spent more than a couple of years on 4chan without learning valuable information that you won't get elsewhere then you're an idiot who doesn't pay attention
4chan will literally give you any answer you want (within reason). People are just too stupid to listen

>hey /b/ i think my gf's cheating on me, wat do?
200 posts later
>i know most of you are telling me o break up with her since i clearly don't trust her and the most likely scenario is that she's cheating on me. But instead I've decided to book us a couples' retreat to rekindle our relationship
12 months later
>hey guys, I just found out that my wife was cheating on me for the last year and a half. And to add insult to injury, it turns out our child isn't even mine. What the hell? I was suspicious after she got pregnant during a period where we were barely fucking. I was trying to man up by marrying her. What now?

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>>689019999
>>689016666
>>689017777

The fuck is with this thread

>>689020259
>if you've spent more than a couple of years on 4chan without learning valuable information that you won't get elsewhere then you're an idiot who doesn't pay attention
True that

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>>689019360
This is so true, it is scary.

>>689019999
>>689017777
>>689016666
Woah what are the odds all in the same thread

Im married, i own two, wife doesn't care

>>689016954
>It's why we invent
Bretty sure thats horse shite.
We - the regular jerkoff invent nothing, oh you mean like a new sheme. Yeah you're right.
Oh and btw pussy is worthless, ask any regular hoe.

>>689020407
That's a keeper, creeper

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>>689009664

>>689016954
Maybe you do everything in your life and "wake up in the morning" because of sex but that seems like a pretty mediocre existence

>>689020425
how does it feel to be retarded?
is it frustrating? do you think about it a lot?

>>689020041
They do when it comes to us taking responsibility for the ton of bullshit everyone else believes we are uniquely tasked with. A woman doesn't want to work? You go girl empower yourself with legit life choices. A man? Fucking useless NEET you are a burden to society. From the Godfather; "women and children can be careless, men can't afford that luxury" that is traditional manhood for you, feminists want full participation without changing anything that's unequal on the other side of the equation

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>>689016179
>>689017299
>>689017479
>>689017503
>1
>>689018298
>>689019259

>Argument is far out.

I've owned a fleshlight but chucked it after a while and now own a sleeve. It's not a flesh light but pretty much the same, just without the hard cover. My girlfriend actually picked it and she enjoys using it on me on occasions. Bottom line it's not disgusting, girls have Sex toys and so do men. Maybe their just a bit boring in the sack.

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>>689016954
>why we wake up in the morning
Well some people have to wake up so they don't get fired from their job
>its why we invent
We invent things to make our everyday lives easier
>fight
Fight for what? Pussy? I never fought a dude to get in a girl's pants
>compete
Ok well yea guys kinda make it competition on who can fuck the most so one point is valid
>go to school
Yea because I would drop out if I wasn't guaranteed pussy in college right? Its not like we need our education to umm idk oh yeah LIVE
>acquire wealth
So men become rich just because they want all the pussy in the world right? Then why is bill gates still with the same woman?

>>689009664
lol, every female that says a fleshlight is disgusting, also owns a dildo.

>>689021779
Okay, sausage, from a biological, not philosophical standpoint: Why do you live?

>>689022097
Same reason gay people do. To enjoy life and increase the fitness of my siblings children. Pussy don't come into it.

>>689022179
From a biological standpoint, though, gay people and those that don't procreate are a evolutionary dead end. Not that I'm judging, I don't want to have to deal with tiny little ankle biting shitstains, but let's not beat around the bush here, life is one big struggle to fuck and make babies, and our society, and everything in it is just an extension of that.

>>689020391
our trap thread got quints >>689022222

>>689022407
wrong. kinship selection, look into it.
Gay uncle hypothesis has a LOT of evidence for it.

Your understanding of biology is from the 19 fucking 40's.

>>689022097
Oh well obviously I live for pussy right?
It's not like we live so we can do something productive, like oh idk maybe trying to leave a legacy behind so people remember me after I die, nah that's ridiculous I live just for pussy, because fuck being human let's just think like animals right?

>>689022496
And your understanding of biology is from tumblr.
You can't pass on DNA if you don't fuck.

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>>689022451

Fucking Traps stealing our quints.

>>689020778
Waht's a better option? You can dedicate your every waking second to try and fight the misery of poverty, have homeless guys sleeping at your place, eat fucking ramen so that you can afford to use your income on others, dress in recycled and hand me down clothing, relax by studying and cultivating yourself, pick up stray dogs and cats and try to place them in good homes without negelcting them in the meantime and keeping them clean... Do you think you're going to be in line for a promotion or that the girl next door, let alone a hot supermodel, is going to give you a pity fuck as a thank you?

"But balance" only means that whatever you think is not a mediocre life comes second to having enough money you can get pussy... We are fucking human, what kind of red blooded man does not want sex?

>>689022588
All of those things are stuff that humans have made up to raise us above animals. And it's pretty sad that the reason you live is so people remember you after you die.

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>>689019132
Kek

>>689022648
Passing DNA has nothing to do with reproductive success; if I help my sisters kids live on, their genes (which they share a percentage of with me) still survive.

You are thinking on the organism level; genes are the actual mode of evolution, not organisms.

>>689022790
hahaha yeah because my only want in life is a hot supermodel. fuck off.

>>689021667
Mark my words, a time will come when she'll humilliate you for using that sleeve

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>>689022496
>>689022648

>Mixing opinions and feelings into biology and science.
>Please stop.

And it was going so well.

>>689022792
>its sad that the reason you live is so people will remember you after you die
And I bet your life is much happier realizing we do everything we can to innovate and revolutionize just for pussy
Makes sense

>>689023100
kinship selection ain't an opinion dude

>>689023178
I never said that. Just making the point that we are animals. That's the reason we live. Beyond that is whatever we create for ourselves. It just seems morbid that you only live so people remember you after you die.

>>689023347
pretty morbid you only live so you can put your dick in a vagina. also creepy.

>>689022908
Organisms that reproduce will pass on more of their own DNA than that of their siblings/family. Eventually I guess it would be "bred out"

>>689023418
Nope. I don't want kids. Just acknowledging the fact that's why I'm alive. That's my biological purpose.

>>689023532
No, because it's still a huge benefit. In fact, it seems to be consistently evolutionary conserved in almost all animals.

Science just don't back up your assertions, yo.

>>689023638
no it isn't. that isn't purpose at all. its random chance.

>>689023418
>also creepy
how the fuck is that creepy?

>>689023647
I dunno man. Generally most animals just leave their children to fuck off after birth. Doesn't seem like the "gay uncle" thing would exist outside of humans.

>>689023703
If it helps you sleep at night.

>>689023347
How is that morbid?
Its morbid to inspire people with your achievements?
Kys already so we can forget about you

>>689009664
>>689010536
Definitely seen differently by many. I think girls also don't know how to react so we might squirm and say it's weird.
But if you think about it, it makes sense and should be totally acceptable.

The world is changing and toys for guys are becoming more accepted. I still feel like it's weird to admit that I love watching guys using toys, but after reaching a certain comfort level with my bf, I wasn't too afraid to share that. Still felt a little shy admitting it though.
I think dildos are hotter than fleshlights though. More fun to watch.

>>689023315
WEll i was just trying to point out the irony of the entire argument. But yes, kinship is not an opinion.

>>689019948
I think it's more so the fact that women want financial security and a baby. Where as men just want pussy. So women who just want to fuck are rare then men who just want to fuck (basically 99% of men).

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>>689023863
As anon lookin' at this argument unfold, please follow you own advice.

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>>689023863
>>689024217

>>689012333
I learned about it from a weird kid when I was in high school so my first reaction when a friend told me was a squirmy ew ( But secretly kinda turned on)
Since then I've encouraged a horny lonely guy to get one and be unashamed and he said it was amazing.

>>689022179
Just substitute pussy for dick if you're a faggot ffs... If you had all the sex you could handle from attractive individuals of watever gender you're attracted to, and this does include their company, you would only do the bare minimum to live comfortably because you would have no other psychological needs. Yes, roughly 3-4 individuals in 100 wouldn't, there is such a thing as outliers... But if I had a couple of drop dead gorgeous wealthy lesbian couples somehow sex slave addicted to my dick and willing to raise my children I wouldn't mind working something as, say bartender and living in my mom's basement for the rest for my life, fuck, books are cheap and other than beer money and the ocasional travel what the fuck else do you need in life?

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>>689024409
Not feeling it tonight, Im going to grab something to eat and return later.

>>689024146
Its not about just wanting to fuck tho
I feel like a lot of you guys are forgetting one aspect, LOVE. Men seek affection just the same way as SOME women. But you're right for the most part because most women dgaf about love, they care more about material things

>>689024821
>Love
Kek'd
Alot of desperate niggas just want their dick wet. This ain't a soap opera fag.

>>689024217
Oh great comeback your probably a samefaggot too
You lost the argument you fuckin mongoloid

>>689022976
That's what you read? You don't want to get laid, you can do without the company of a romantic partner, not talking friends, but someone who's fucking sexually attracted to you? If you've been fucking castrated you don't belong in this conversation... And if you don't have beauty standards then you're not human, if a guy was willing to fuck massive landwhales then he should never want for pussy...

>>689025064
Yes but most guys can't handle break ups as easily as women.
So what does that tell you?

>>689009664
I think most of us also don't understand how they get cleaned. Dildos go inside is and we wash them well ( hopefully) and guys go inside fleshlights and girls don't know what the cleaning process is.

>>689025068
The only thing you're going to inspire is school shootings and suicides you absolute spastic.

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>>689017777
>>689016666
>>689019999

>>689025328
I'm curious so I know there's a way to take it apart & clean it. I don't think it's gross to own one.
I just imagine that might be part of the weird reaction some people have

>>689025320
Only beta cucks go through that shit. Real men tough up and find the next pussy to slay.
>Bundle of sticks

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>>689025328
>girls don't know what the cleaning process is.

All this talk about why we fuck women is intellectual but made me lose more interest on women. I think I'm full gay now, like I was bi before but now I'm just fully gay, since you guys made me realize that women are just there to impregnate and so they can leach off of all of our earnings

>>689025400
:^)

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"<"gf prego again she suggested to get Fleshlight because she can't keep up with sex because of
Nausea.
">"it comes in Tuesday, never bought anything
Like this, but it's better than cheating.

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>>689025738

>>689025937
which one did you get?

>>689025952
Yea for real I was red pilled hard

>>689026205
Super tight
Destroya
Heavenly
I also got a random sleeve with the amount
I spend.

>>689026864
ah shit son

>>689022908
You cuck... Thst's not how homosexuality works, it's been proven bisexuality does actually provide a reproductive advantage, wehther this is a function of making forn a better provider (hyerarchies in primates are strongly sexualized) simply getting laid more (being promiscuous makes you confident/ better player... plus women don't like desperate men) or simply better prostatic, reproductive health from more frequent intercourse is up for debate, but homosexuality is simply a case of outliers who got too much of the gay genes... In reality as much of an outlier as truly exclusive heterosexuals (which are probably no more numerous than strictly homosexual people). Yes, arguably raising offspring not your own could arguably make for a viable strategy, except since you're not passing your own genes homosexuals would tend to die out of populations, your influence would hardly be any more succesful than say having a straight bachellor uncle... And in reality is having siblings with family of their own (wh can easily just care for the other kids alongside their own children) that would make for the better reproductive strategy...

>>689024821
In all fairness loving women are in as short a suply as pussy. but even if love is your game male sex toys make men less willing to put up with demands/needs (love isn't just the good parts) so it works out the same as pussy suply and is no argument at all... In fact I'd even say love as an idea strenghtens this theory as it adds emotional blackmail to the equation...

>>689025328
You turn them inside out... You can remove the hard cover

>>689009664
Nope. Ever since I bought mine I don't beg girls to give me their numbers anymore its awesome.

>>689010805
>Also smells better

>>689025952
meh, there's still traps and prostitutes...

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Nope in my opinion it feels way better than a vagina.

>>689028243
>paying money to cum

>>689016954
I acquire wealth because Im curious and want to see how far we can go and to feel the feels when we get to Mars.
Ask Elon Musk he knows what I feel.

>>689019132
Too soon ripperonis

>>689028411
You never fucked a vagina.

>>689009664
fleshlite go fuck yourself.

>>689028461
You're paying one way or another... If you think going gay takes you out of that equation you're in for a shock...

>>689028081
Cum is very hard to wash off. Not worth it.

>>689028714
Thats why you stay at home and you jerk it or buy a fleshlight. Don't get caught up in the sex scam.

>>689028729
>hard to wash off
what do you usually do with it? swallow?

>>689028565
Fair enough, I'm sure there's a couple of fags out there who haven't blown their brains out because they're waiting on the next Avengers movies... It's hardly typical tho...

>>689025673
>>689028081
I know you can take them apart cause I've looked it up & assumed that first. But not everyone takes the time to do that, or thinks like that.
Just wanted to add a different perspective. If someone thinks it's just one piece, they might think it gets pretty nasty in there cause cleaning the inside wouldn't be too effective

>>689028806
Fleshlight/jerking is nowhere near as good... Once you've gone steady with a woman who's both beautiful and horny you are pretty much in the rat race for life...

>>689019360
still better than being surrounded by normalfags.

>>689028924
With the special soap that fleshlight sells, my cum feels too sticky and rubbery and wont come off easily.

>>689028714
I'm the one that's going gay, u replied to a different guy. And btw liking traps is gay

>>689029297
Then use normal soap, you dimwit.

>>689028729
Do you fall asleep cuddling next to it? I don't know, buy a fucking dish washer you poor fag, that you're too disgusting to wash it any more often than a couple of weeks (I don't have a clue how long you'd have to store it soiled so it becomes an issue) is not really an argument...

>>689029097
Well I wouldnt know and wouldnt want to know anyways, Im pretty content with just staying home and jacking it

>>689025738
well fuck me in my fat ass and call me a bitch, it depends on the woman thou.

>>689029371
>>689029390
I did use normal soap you fags I even used body soap and wont come off. Its a crappy product

>>689029082
You can just microwave hot pockets the dump them (or eat them, no one will know) after you fuck them

>>689028729
Stop eating oily foods, that affects the texture of your semen.

>>689009664
Just make a fifi, its way cheaper and clean is easy.

>>689029344
I'm not against faggotry, just saying there's options to choosing to buttfuck virile men cuz you don't like social dynamics...

>>689029427
Good luck with your life?

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I never thought I'd buy a fleshlight tbh, but fuck it

>>689029942
Thanks faggot

>>689029580
Try dish soap? Soak it? Idk. I'm not qualified to offer advice here

>>689029580
I'm sure if you call the manufacturer they should have a solution, what do the instructions say on cleaning/maintenance?

>>689029643
Hahah. Watch out for burns though.
And hidden cameras. This place has made me fearful of bathrooms

>>689016666
Witnessed and truth'd

>>689030537
That's why I use a desktop with an actual monitor, pity the poorfags who jerk off on laptops with integrated cameras... We should start shaming galleries on /b

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>>689028729
Yeah and they get moldy too after a while, just look at what this anon did to his.

>>689031083
oh fuck, that's nasty...

>>689031083
Yeah im gonna keep using my hand instead

>>689017299
Diamonds aren't rare

>>689031083
what a gross fucking pig
how about following the simple cleaning instructions?
I'm still using mine after 3 years and it's as good as new

>>689031752
What's the point of cleaning it if it gets dirty again?

>>689032061
what's the point of cleaning your dishes if it gets dirty again?

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>>689031523
meh, if you're a pig you may want to consider it isn't that much of an alternative

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>>689010805

>>689032268
Exactly!

>>689032293
Yeah but a hand is more discrete than a fleshlight. How are you going to explain that flashlight looking object in the room when friends come over or when your parents come to visit?

>>689009664
Apostrophes show ownership, not plurality.

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>>689032061

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>>689032690
you keep it in the same place as your butt plugs; in the closet

>>689016179
so wouldnt dildos decrease the value of dick? checkmate.

>>689033160
there is an endless supply of free dick lil nigga

>>689033013
that babbylight looks way too fucking tight...

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Anyone know of any water based lubes like the tenga real.

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>>689033587
tears

>>689016954
>it's why we invent
until we invented fleshlights

>>689032690
If you're keeping your fleshlight in plain sight that may be last on the list of things you have to explain yourself for...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6LVZFLSfw

>>689033587
fleshlight's lube?

A man owning a fleshlight is as weird and disgusting as a woman owning a dildo, its not