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Who is histories most competent leader? In general, I mean.
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Who is histories most competent leader? In general, I mean.
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>>688977471
Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior
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>>688977515
Explain.
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>>688977471
Gandhi- just don't cross him or you are fucked.
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>>688977569
No need for explaining, anon
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>>688977593
/thread
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>>688977471
Hannibal
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Gaio giulio Cesare
Gengis Khan
Giovanni "of the Black bands" deMedici
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>>688977471
Anyone but Donald Trump
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Buddha
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>>688977840
Wasn't he more of a teacher?
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Choppa
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Hitler of course
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Emperor Reman I
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Queen Victoria
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Alexander.
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>>688977471
there isnt one, no leader is competent, they always serve their interests first.
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Rommel
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>>688977471

The guy in your picture.

He went from patsy to god-emperor, even the enemies revered him.
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>>688978160
The Great, or just Alexander? Two totally different people anon. One was great, the other was pretty good, but not great
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>>688978125
If he did his drugs in moderation he would've been numero uno and conquered the world. He peaked to soon and now look at the world
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>Pretty Much Singlehandedly got the war of independence back on its feet consistent failures from less competent leaders in the rebel army.
>Was a charismatic diplomat who was god tier at negotiations.
>Was a strategic genius.
>Kept the english guessing time and time again.
>Did it with a smile on his face.

If you can prove to me he wasn't one of the worlds most amazing leaders, you shouldn't be on 4chan you should be in a university studying history.
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>>688977471
Frances Charles De Gaulle would be up there.
Anything to do with the Hemp empire.
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>>688978160
>Alexander.
Good General, shitty Emperor.
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>>688977471
Genghis Khan
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>Ctrl+F
>"Hitler"
>1 result
/b/ I'm disappoint
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JFK, Johnny Howard
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>>688977840
Which one of them?
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Duke of Wellington and Horatio Nelson
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JFK could've been but he was too competent in a massively corrupt system that in the end destroyed that entire family.
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>>688977471
Pretty difficult to say. You can always argue.

Constantine or Justinian II imo.

Or this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antanas_Mockus

Hes much more recent, left office in 2002. Hes probably one of the best leaders I have ever even heard of.
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Psy

You idiots made him famous. Prepare for more
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>>688978747
OP said competent

He lost hard
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Alexander the great, De Gaulle, Justinian, Constantine. So many options
Even Hitler
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and declare Marcus Agrippa History's Greatest Man

- amazing general on land & sea
- powerful civil figure
- dedicated many great architectural works
- never betrayed the man he served under even though his martial prowess and popularity would have made seizing the princepsdom simple
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>>688979071
De Gaulle? That fucker was in the right place at the right time. Not a great leader like Constantine (even though he forced Christianity on us) or Alex the Great! Justinian was probably a good leader but only because he knew how to chose people who would lead for him. No comment on Hitler, I cant find anything wrong although I don't think he was necessary a good leader
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>>688979455
>hitler
how about starting a disastrous second front that lost more territory in the long run
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>>688977471
Alexander the great militarily. Nvr lost.
Patton was brave
Zhukov is a legend but stalin made him cry [he'd bloody make me cry]

Ghani, MLK, FDR [new deal saved america], Marx, Hegel for their deep political contributions.
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>>688978812
Really JFK?
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>>688979543
yh hitler lost ww2 by his over-confidence, aswell others
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Jefferson
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Zaros.
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Charles De Gaulle FTW !
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John Morrison
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Osiris, duh.
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>>688979893
shittiest airport ever
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>>688979543
Since this is /b/ I am obliged by unwritten legal restraints to state that Hitler in fact did nothing wrong. Hypothetically I could write a 500 page book on his mistakes and Social Darwinist wrongdoings. This is hypothetically however. He did in fact do nothing wrong
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>>688980358
But he did. He got overconfident.
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>>688980421
>>688980358
finite reason i dunno if thats wrong but its why

better reproach would have been an imperial anglo federation, just had to convert to english language, like constantine before him

oh well, opportunities missed
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>>688980421
I'm sorry to hear that anon. I really am. Now I am unofficially legally obliged to suggest you kill your self. These are not my personal views anon. You must understand. I'm sorry. KYS
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Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, whitout doubt
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>>688980729
like the french would never have folded first, but perhaps with austria-

then folds.. through italy, one world.>>688980729
scandi follow.. /red
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>>688977471
Check'em
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>>688980729
I'm sorry anon, but due to the retarded canon of the /b/ unwritten manifesto I must do this. Fuck this is childish. Hitler did nothing wrong. KYS. Sorry mate. I drink a lot. It helps a bit
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>>688980976
- atlantic -
through indian..
rus about here
through pacific...
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>>688981107
egos and all that.
jiddu krishnamurti ETC
RESPECT ETC
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>>688978256
Cincinnatus
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instead of korea and vietnam ud have english tanks looking at nepal & touring xian. just saying middle east muslim africa problem E TC
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>>688978916
Found the fanatic libtard
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>>688978129
Amen my imperial brother
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>>688978916
What crack are you smoking?
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>>688981266
"Cincinnatus was regarded by the Romans, especially the aristocratic patrician class, as one of the heroes of early Rome and as a model of Roman virtue and simplicity."

Good try though
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>>688978311
underrated post. Politics held back his military Genius. He and Patton would have been friends afterwards
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Tiber Septim, the god of war and man. The 9th divine and all-around badass.
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Aegon the conqueror
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>>688982100
Fuck Aegon, Mace Tyrell for the win
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recently, rommel
less recently napoleon (just forgot bout russian winter, like everyone)
least recently lexander the great
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>>688977471
william the conqueror
alexander the great
benedict of cumberpatch
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It's a toss up between Marcus Aurelius, Augustus, Alexander the Great and King Solomon
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>>688977615
Yes you does, how exactly can a glorified jew that has been dead for the last two millenia be the greatest leader of all time?
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>>688982177
>competent leader
>frenchman

pick one
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akatosh.

>literally banished hell to its own plane of existence
>brought forth a new era of abundance and life
>actually fuckin made a second coming when he was needed
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Charlemagne, hands down. Dude starts an empire, improves the lives of his people, then as he gets older, travels his empire in secret for like two years, comes back, and makes things better again. He repulsed Muslim attacks in Europe and is the entire reason the Holy Roman Empire existed and why modern day Germany and France exist.
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>>688977471
Napoleon Bonaparte has been described as the world's "most competent man"

I would reckon that qualifies him.
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>>688981976
Thank god another anon that studied history
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>>688982373
he was a corsican, and preety good, held most of europe for quiute some time, would have kept it if not for russian winter, and he was also the first to make that mistake.
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Militarily I'd say Alexander the Great or Napoleon Bonaparte. However when it comes to governing I'd say Cato the Younger.
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>>688982373
>whatever the fuck "france" is anyway

>>688982475
exist as 2 seperate entities.. hah
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>>688982471
rip martin
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>>688982534
>9 lives
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>>688982177
Napoleon seemed pretty shit after he got old. When he was younger he was a master of daring tactics and strategy. Once he got older (around 1810/1811) he lost what it was that made him great. Honestly, almost anyone could have done better at Borodino (he was sick but he was sick a lot as he got older and Rommel got sick as fuck and continued to be a great commander). No, Napoleon lacked the constitution to be a great leader. He gets a tummy ache and he may as well not be there!
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Bismark
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>>688982575
>>688982575
he was a crustacean?
lol what a faggt
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>>688977664
Definitely one of the top generals. If Carthage had better supported him he could have attacked Rome itself.
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Gengheis khan

So alpha he reduced the world climate by killing so many
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>>688982709
dude, he was from corsica, stop being an idiot and look at a map
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>>688982905
i know what a crustacean is you faggot.
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>>688977471
Alexander the great
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Yi Sun-Sin
singlehandedly safed korea from a japanese invasion while getting fucked in the ass by his own government
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>>688983112
Anal fucking is something we can all relate to anon. Good choice
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>>688982905
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Jyggalag. He was so knowledgable his fellow princes pussed out and cursed him out of fear. He wouldve ruled Oblivion without a doubt. He still even manages to fuck up an entire plane of Oblivion every era
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Will.I.Am the Conqueror and Alexander the great were good generals who spent most of their lives fighting. They left behind unstable territories and power hungry lieutenants

Alfred the Great and Octavian were pretty good
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>>688983487
One thing I never understood at the end of that story line was where Sheogorath went. Did he body snatch the Champion of Cyrodiil?
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>>688982475
Yup. Agreed.
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Augustus ofcourse
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>>688984004
Sheogorath turned into Jyggalag and remained that way. The Champion was named the new mad god and eventually became fully-fledged Daedric Prince
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>>688977471
Hitler
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Paul Muad'Dib - conquered the known universe in only twelve standard years.
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>>688984611
but he an hero, so that pretty much disqualifies him
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>>688984723
silly anon thinking hitler killed himself
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Emperor Palpatine
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>>688984658
>didn't even want to do it
Absolute legend
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>>688984781
He still killed Germany. He failed.
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>>688984859
are you saying that wasn't a good thing
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>>688984723
Hannibal and Cato did an hero aswell, doesn't disquialify them the slightest
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>>688984786
Kek
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The omni-king, of course.
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Georgy Zhukov
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>>688984951
yes it does
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It was Hitler. I don't think anyone denies this.
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>>688984811
He just wanted to make sandcastles
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>>688985161
>Let's invade Russia in the winter
>Let's take Stalingrad because it's got Stalin's name
>Took a drug cocktail that clouded his judgment
>Probably would have executed the nuclear scientists of his nation if they'd told him a nuclear bomb was possible
Not even close.
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>>688985161
Say that to my face not online fucker and see what happens
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Alexander Hamilton
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>>688984506
That sucks. I mean, godhood woo. I just imagined him going out in a more glorified manner.
Wait until TES VI lore. "The Last Dragonborn was a master thief vampire lord who served Hermaeus Mora and ate children and assinated the Emperor.
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>>688985648
how was stalin competent? didn't he cause massive starvation?
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>>688985857
propaganda of the bourgeoisie and their running dogs
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>>688985857
He was also hated by his closest officials because any action they did that somehow outshined Stalin could have been worthy of execution. That guy is full of shit.
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>>688986061
Look pal, if you want to make an omelette, you're going to have to send some eggs to the gulag
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Angela Merkel of course. She is a saint. Say it loud, say it clear, refugees are welcome here!
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>>688986240
>>688986240
Haha right! Refugees welcomel
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>>688986240
Yes! Fuck this racist nazi propaganda! Refugees are welcome! Fuck nazis on 4chan
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Napoleon Bonaparte
It took 7 collations of the most powerful countries in the world to finally being him down.
France also prospered under his rule.
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>>688986781
Fuck you racist nazi! Read this! >>688986240
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Joan of Arc
>hot loli /w tits
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>>688987220

>>688986240
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>>688977471
Personally, Ganges khan or his son.
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>>688980292

never been through LAX I guess.
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>>688986240
Our village has under 1000 residents. With the construction, we will have taken in 500 refugees by the end of the year.

The aging of the population was putting the survival of our town in jeopardy as most young people move to cities.

The refugees are insuring our town's future is bright and we can't thank them enough. I have personally offered my wife as an outlet for the young single men's sexual pleasure to prevent rape.

If we all do our part, our town and country will continue to thrive.
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>>688977515
>a jew as the best leader
kill yourself
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nevermind. joan of arc was actually jeane of arc and was a sissy boi puc male.

stilly. hot loli is inspiring, motivational, thus great leaders
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Harald hårfagre.
tok over Norway in the viking ages then cucked all the men by fucking their wife's. it's like what niggers are doing in Sweden right now only that there was one man that was cucking, not many. then his son went on a killing spre with a axe and got banished to Iceland. then his sons did the same and no one could stop them so they had to burn them alive while they slept while Haralds second son was ruling the country
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>>688987653
>implying reddit and /pol/ don't have exactly the same userbase these days
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Families such as but not limited to: The Rothschilds, Carnegies, Rockefellers, etc etc
Stupid fucking faggots always want to single out individuals when clearly the world is run by families
>B.b..but anon military faggotry
>Obligatory Hitler posts from 14 year olds
>Only knowing high school history and basing answers off of limited institutionalized knowledge
Fuck off everyone
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This motherfucker
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>>688988573
>The Rothschilds, Carnegies, Rockefellers
Conspiracy theorist starter pack
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>>688977471
General Obama
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Muhammed
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>>688986240
>>688986470
>>688986536
>>688986986
>>688987639
Worthless samefag, go die
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http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Was+Joan+of+Arc+genetically+male%3F-a0192646453
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>>688982653
to be fair, most of europe rallied against him, and he almost won
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>>688978628
We don't know how good he was at administration because he was at war the entire time and died before he could administrate.
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>>688977471
Themistocles

Almost single handedly dragged Greece out of the maw of Persia with the Athenian navy.

Used democracy when he could. Played behind the scenes to get shit done unilaterally when he had to.

Created golden age of Athens. Saved the west from destruction.
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Leonidas
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>>688982096
Don't use his slave name
His name is and ever will be Talos
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>>688982856
I never heard this
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>>688991705
noob
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Thomas mother fucking Jefferson
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