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>>688971194
kill everyone but Nigel

I wanna see this country go into bnp, chavy chaos

>>688971368
>bnp
Controlled opposition.

Doors opening in 20 mins boiz. Everyone is excited to see our Nigel

>>688971725
you get the gist of what i meant

this country is on a fine line of going tits up into madness

>>688972531
I did, yes. It's been in madness for years now but it'll get worse before it gets better.
Still, Nigel et al, can get the ball rolling.

>>688972760
to be fair i havent really looked enough into the EU ref to have an opinion

Im hoping we stay but again i dont know shit

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>>688971194
Walk in there and start preaching about how Niger Farage is our Lord and saviour, how he is the second coming of jesus and how he is going to save us from the sand niggers/devil's/skullduggery bringers/immigrants, then start chanting in some tribal language once you have a small crowd going HULULU HULULA HULULU HULULA while simultaneously shitting yourself.

>>688973635
this...

>>688973635
FUCKING DO IT OP ON CAMERA

If anyone in the audience says some crap about being racist, kick them in the nuts.

>>688973739
Old ppl are already judging me. Plus Im black so ill probs get killed by the police

>>688973924
Be a good boy and everything will be fine.

Someone post a dick pic. As a heterosexual I find debating the pros and cons of particular cocks as a manly art.

>>688973924
Are you voting Leave or Remain? I'll try not to assume based on your skin colour.

>>688973126
>>688973924
saying you're black when we can see your fucking skin
nice try op, now stop being a big puss and go do it

>>688974707
Black white Mixrace actually. Lightskin as a result

>>688971194
garage the farage

Shoot the place up

>>688971194

>>>/pol/

They love Nige.

>>688971194
http://suttoncoldfieldlocal.co.uk/sutton-coldfield-eu-referendum-debate-199042/

OP lives in a fucking shithole of an old mining town, And you spunked money to goto this too.

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>>688974265
Leave Actually. I dont think its worth put time/money

>>688975319
Good lad. People are acting like we were a third world country before the EU. We'll be fine if everyone grows some balls and doesnt run crying to Brussels when things are shaky the first couple of years.

>>688975088
I got the train from another Birmingham shithole to get here. Also i cant pass up an opportunity to see our nigey

>>688975319
Call Nigel Farage a racist twat and say he looks like a retarded frog on acid.

>>688975716
SHUT UP YOU CUNT, RACISM IS LIFE

If any opposition pipe up start a "build the wall" chant

>>688975716
>Cares about his country so he must be racist

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>>688975944
Checkd. Will do if it gets rowdy but it seems quiet atm. Funnily enough the guy on the end of our row has a hat with the confererate flag on it so thats fun

Any way you can stream this?

>>688976199
The internet is kinda shitty here so probs no. Im open to suggestions tho

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>>688976199
Anal sex?

>>688976310
I suggest this>>688976330
Are you open to it?

Blame the EU and the migrants and forget about the fact that the bill you are paying is for centuries of aggressive colonialism, which contributes to the steady stream of permanent immigrants from ex-colonies. You will build a fence for the EU nationals that are regulated and pay taxes in two different countries, to then spread your arse cheeks for those that pay no taxes and believe you owe them money from what you stole from their country. Good job England, for being the only European country to judge itself above all others, like when you watched Europe burn twice thinking you are safe for being an island...

>>688976384
How tho?

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>>688971194
vote for brexit

14 years I worked, paid taxes, contributed to profits of countless UK firms and establishments, never using any benefits, to now facing the propect of being evicted for being an EU national... Grim to see all the closet xenophobes coming out now, most of them enjoying benefits without having contributed even near to what they enjoyed so far... Blame the others and die in lonely misery, pitiful island of bleak and depressive filth...

>>688976789
Tough shit. We deport plenty of hard working Aussies and New Zealanders and we have a closer connection to them than a 'EU national'.

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Ask any member of the panel:

'Hi, I'm leaning towards voting Out, but I recently read a report from the OECD that a Leave result would make it much harder to get dubs? Is there any truth in this, and if so what steps can I take to consolidate my dubs?'

>>688976971
Well done, good sir. Who are you going to exploit next then? Build a wall, build a wall!

>>688976534
Penis in anus. That's how. My local Pastor taught me that. Where were you during sex education in school?

>>688976310

periscope?

https://help.periscope.tv/customer/portal/articles/2016596-how-do-i-sign-up-for-a-periscope-account-

Never tried it myself. Seems you just need a throwaway Twitter.

>>688976789

Don't be a fucking idiot, your rights are guaranteed under the Vienna convention, 1969. You can't be expelled just because you're European... Maybe for being a whiny twat, but not for being European

>>688977353
He's the same as those dumbasses that are like 'OMG Trump is gonna deport me cause I'm Mexican!'

>>688971194
run on stage, dongcopter, run off stage

>>688976971
Very close to them indeed because they are the descendents of your own criminals. European citizens are merely civilised humans with oth whom you shared a border and a common peaceful goal. Too bad it costs you money to keep a stable relationship, being the only prock country to veto every fucking agreement amd the only EU country where EU nationals have to go through a border control. Still remember fondly the face of stupidity at border control when the poor lad did not know what a national identity card was and asked an EU national for their passport... Such an "advanced" and "welcoming" country to trade with... Wish you as much luck as the pirates you funded to rape and steal from the rest of the world, you simpleton...

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>>688977347
Internet too slow apparently

hold cell phone in the air, and shout "alluh snackbar,alluh snack bar alluh`s snack baaaaaaaaar!!!!!! is now open, donners 2 price for 1"

but dont, you`d probly get tazed

>>688971194
Dont be a retard and stay in EU

>>688977655
We're a fucking island it's in our nature to want to do our own thing. Sorry we dont want to lay and spread our ass and let our individuality get fucked out of us.

By the man a beer, he deserves it. He's the only man in politics looking out for the country.

>>688971194
Stab the fuck out of Farage, Heseltine and Mitchell.

>>688977675

awwww.

>>688977917
this, staying in the EU is their only hope to survive on the market

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Btw if any of you guys thought i was joking about the conferederate flag hat

>>688975481
And why do you think that things will be better after a few shaky years?

>>688978182
Because we're the 5th largest economy in the world and we're doing a pretty good job of being a powerful, independent country before the EU

>>688977974
Sorry, oh noble sir. Never realised how much of your individuality was removed by the EU. Please do keep your curry houses, your black guetos and sand nigger cities from your ex-colonies, which define your individuality as serial rapists of countries.

>>688978418
Oh no I hate being reminded we had an empire oh golly gosh how embarrassing let's get rid of it all and pretend we have no history.

http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/LIVE-EU-debate-Sutton-Coldfield-Town-Hall/story-29388872-detail/story.html

STREAM IS HERE. STARTING SOON

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>>688971194
>vote to leave. on a german car.
kekkerdekek

>>688978601

Or directly from youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFKT8bXmxXI

>>688978601
>http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/LIVE-EU-debate-Sutton-Coldfield-Town-Hall/story-29388872-detail/story.html
confirmed

>>688978263
Yep. You stood very well economically immediatly after the second world war. Thank you for creating the Pension system because your dumb fuck PM wanted to get some votes from the geriatrics that never paid a penny for their pension and then being too scared to stop it when the money ran out. Good move sir. I tip my coconut hat to you.

>>688971194
I called the venue and told them that the white guy with ticket number 252 has a loaded weapon

>>688978975
haha I doubt you have done this but I certainly am.
will add that he planned anti-remain massacre too

>>688971194
Direct democracy is never a good idea. The normal citizen has no idea what he is voting for and just follows any populist.
EU is not gonna fall apart because England leaves. But they will put an example.

>>688978719
OP, make a scene
We gon watch from this anon's linko

>>688979074
you marvellous bastard

>>688976425
we saved europe on many more than 2 occasions from dictators
we really should be in charge of all you fuckwits

>>688971194
Fuck off. Nobody needs your arogant asses needing a extra treat.

>>688978263
say goodbye to your financial institutions.
city already announced it will move to frankfurt...
also: what people seem to forget is that trade outside the EU is possible, but more expensive. you can't expect to have the same benefits outside the eu as you have with them. and off course, more expensive trade won't mean you'll starve. it just means a german car is suddenly a bit more expensive. vice versa, for a European a brit car will be more expensive. this is a negative factor on trade as a whole. it won't stop it. but it makes it smaller. and in a smaller market production is more expensive.
think of it as if you were japan.
big economy, sure, high standard of living. sure.
but not as high as the eu standards.

>>688979103
the EU will collapse when britain leaves, holland and denmark are next for referendums and the rest will follow

>>688979369
Woah woah woah no one told me things might be a bit more EXPENSIVE! In that case lets officially hand the country over because no independence is worth paying a bit more for a german car.

>>688978601
>http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/LIVE-EU-debate-Sutton-Coldfield-Town-Hall/story-29388872-detail/story.html

TOPLAD
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Taking this to /pol/

>>688979722

it's already on /britpol/

the stream is wank though

>>688976670
is that snake okay?
it looks sick

>>688979542
why do you think all those eastern countries want to join?
i mean, for sure, the world won't fall apart. but there is simply more benefit in working together.
you've been fooled by politicians who like to blame the eu for everything.

OP OP OP!!!!

If you want to troll, annoy or generally be a dickhead towards these people, I can help you.

Vote leave has one weakness in its argument for leaving the EU: The choice between the single market in EU [without tariffs] or no free movement of labour.

They CANNOT have no tariffs and no free movement.

Genuinely mate, I study politics at university, and this one debating point will shut them the fuck up. They cannot [unless they blatantly lie] claim to have both the EU trading area [EEC] and not be forced to take in European migrants.


PLEASE PLEASE, do this. They will get ripped to shreds by any PRO-EU person in the audience who knows their shit.

>>688978113
We're not on the market. We're sat at home whilst Brussels is getting shafted over the weight of their last cod.
If we vote out we can actually go to the market place to buy and sell our wares instead of just loading them into the boot of Brussels's Citroen Zafira at 6 o'clock in the morning.

>>688980030

They can have no tariffs if it agreed in a trade deal. If the EU wants to put tariffs up it will massively damage their own economy.

"I study politics at university" the amount of propaganda you receive at uni from leftists is incredible

>>688980030

There's no other political union in the world where you NEED to have free movement in order to trade freely.

go back to your brainwashing lectures

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672563/Turkey-EU-Britain-exclusive-poll-crime-figures-Turks SAVE THE UK, VOTE LEAVE!

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>>688980203
>They can have no tariffs if it agreed in a trade deal.

Well, yes, obviously but they won't get that trade deal. If we get a trade deal with the EU that says that we'll get 50% off the price of things, we'll get cheaper exports but we'll not get 50% off things.

>. If the EU wants to put tariffs up it will massively damage their own economy.

So that's why they've put them up the the entire world bar other EEC countries?

Literally every other country in the world pays them, why not Britain?

They CANNOT have no tariffs and no free movement of labour. No country does with an EU agreement. No country will, because the EU wants the free movement of people.

> the amount of propaganda you receive at uni from leftists is incredible

Reality has a strong leftward bias. It turns out if you actually invest in many people, not one rich dude, then you all grow more.

>>688980389
>There's no other political union in the world where you NEED to have free movement in order to trade freely.


Key word being: other.

The fact still being that the EU requires free movement of labour to enter the EEC.

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>>688980030
This is either great trolling or the highest level of mental rertardation. Either way, you've nailed it.

>>688980614
You wanted to troll politicians. I, as a remain campaigner wish to show you why it's in our benefit, and if we can, piss of dickheads like Nigel whilst doing it.

You're autistic for being politically ignorant.

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Fuck Merkel, and her millions of muslim "guest" invasion army! That hag is destroying Europe!

>>688971194
Listen to the information being said. Realize its true and correct. Vote Leave on the 23rd.

>>688980679

>if we get a trade deal with the EU that says we'll get 50% off the price of things

You have no clue how business works do you.

If the EU wants to screw over their businesses and increase the prices for their customers, then fine. Sure, us and the rest of the world may have to pay 10% for european products, but we'll be finally free to make our own trade deals with the rest of the world

>>688971194

> nigel

Meme incarnate. Have fun meming Op.

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>>688971194
Urge a swift Brexit, align with President Trump, depose the idiot child Trudeau and promote a reinvigorated manufacturing base via cheap energy. Appeal to proper nationalist instincts and self-interest for motivation.

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>>688980894
I like you anon. I like you but you're crazy

>>688975481
the UK is a third world country

>>688980877
Im the bloke you're replying to.

This is like 9/10 level trolling. I'm trolling the leaveEU cunts because im talking about the largest argument for remaining in the EU [and it's entirely true], I'm trying to explain it to people on this board so they'll actually vote to remain although knowing how much you hate foreigners, that's unlikely but they're still not immune to reason and argument.

I'm the largest troll because i'm actually right, and leaveEU people are desperately trying to gather their economic arguments: "but.... we don't care about paying 15% more on our exports, if foreigners can't come into my country, I don't need money."

You'll stop me being the largest troll by actually having an arugment. but thus far, none of the LEave EU people that i've seen [all major names] have't overcome it.

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>>688980941
Is Merkel worse than the gangster Clinton?

>>688977142
underrated. ask this op, record also

>>688981342

even if the EU slapped tariffs on all their products, it would have a net cost of around 9 billion.

Even in the worst case scenario and we pay tariffs, we still have a net gain of 1 billion.

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leave as fuck, mate

>>688981018
You realize that the "50%" thing that I was talking about was farcical. It was a lie. It was something I was making up to show you how we COULD get an amazing deal, but obviously the other side wouldn't agree to it.

The EU wouldn't agree to EEC [no tarifs] without free movement of labour being included.

>If the EU wants to screw over their businesses and increase the prices for their customers, then fine.

They do this to america. They do this to every single country of the world, bar EEC countries which have to accept free movment of labour. GGNR mate.

>>688981282
Indeed. I know i'm achieving little here, but i genuinely find it fun demonstrating to people, and arguing topics.

>>688980894
Why would you want to remain? The common claim for British reliance on the Common Market (now Standard Market) has been debunked numerous times. The only ones still preaching it are the ones receiving an additional paycheck out of Brüssel.

>>688980894
Convince me to vote "Remain".

>>688981707

>They do this to america. They do this to every single country of the world, bar EEC countries which have to accept free movment of labour

So why don't we do as the rest of the world does? Europe is the only continent bar Antarctica that isn't experiencing economic growth

>>688981707
None of us ever achieve much anon. We are on /b/ for fuck sake! I for one plan on being a beta faggot for the rest of my life. I will only fight when I know I have already won. If not I will run away or cheat so dramatically that I win on shock value. I am a faggot anon. Nothing wrong with that

David Cameron getting fucking grilled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BFSJRH1q-A

>>688971194
BUT WHO WILL BUILD MUH ROADS?!?!?!?"!)="!()="!(

>>688982058
>And I'm Faisal Islam...
When I saw this the first time I was dead-sure they we're gonna go easy and play in favor of Cameron. That dude was fucking dead-on though. Didn't back down when hearing fucking stock responses for evasion.

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Business needs a pool of people from which to fill their vacancies. Being in Europe gives them an OCEAN of people! Wages will never rise!

>>688981588
>even if the EU slapped tariffs on all their products, it would have a net cost of around 9 billion.

How did you acquire that figure?

The Uk has 45billion per year in Exports.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports

If there was a 15% charge on products, it wouldn't just be the increased cost that our companies will have to deal with, it would be extra compettion. if a uk company can sell, say a car at £10,000 and a french car car is £11,000 [all else equal about the cars]
If there's a 15% tariff on entry, it wouldn't just be the cost of the tariff itself [paying an extra 15% on whatever you buy is indeed a cost in of itself] but the loss of business which will massively ruin is.

If we now have to adhere to this 15% tariff, we won't only lose the 15% itself, but we'll lose the whole sale of the car as the french car is now cheaper to import than the british [because of the tariff], so not only we lose the cost of tariff but also the competitive advantage that we have now.

That, I'd argue would cost more than 9 billion [as we're in a closer inter-connected world, which has very high competition for products].

Also, you're assuming that leaving the eu would inherently gain 10 billion. That's nonsensical. Although LEaveEU keeps talking about that 350 million [ is actually less than half of that] , we get some many benefits from the EU that it's certainly in our interest to stay.

You have no evidence that the EU is costing us 10 billion a year.

>>688973068
If you're hoping we stay, you're damn right you don't know shit lol

The EU is shite

ask him to Farage Barrage you from behind

B73 6AB is the post code go kill all plz

>>688973126
is that electrical tape on your glasses?

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>>688982333
Wow, that argument really seems sincere. Wait, no it doesn't.

Some things are more valuable than money. Your country might be one of them.

>>688971194
genuinely - ask why the Leave campaign continues to put out the Big Lie about £350 million. Ask why they think they need to lie, continually, about this. ask why the BIg Lie (Goebbels tactic) is being used here. Ask why they keep lyong, even when the truth, £120 million, is a pretty big figure (although it is nly 89p a day per person, less than 0.5% of government spending per year, and we get more back in free trade. But ask why they are deliberately lying all the time - and ewhy they keep doing it. tell them it undermines their credibility. but find out why they do it (answer - because they are trying to win on lies and propaganda and emotion, not real facts and valid arguments)

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>>688982333
checked

>>688981871
>Convince me to vote "Remain".

Okay, anon. I'll try. Although i'll admit to you all that we may not have similar values or things we find valuable as i'm explicitly a Libertarian Socialist whilst most of this board [having some cross-over from /pol/] is somewhat right-leaning.

So, for example. I've worked with, at university and in a few jobs, lots of foreigners and Eu migrants. The vast majority are amazing people, and I believe that's because they've traveled a little bit and like to open their mind to the world's differences.

So, i'd consider free movement of travel (both for me to move to spain, as many Brits do) and for the Spanish to come here a benefit of Eu membership.

Economically, free movement of labour [people] is highly correlated to economic growth as in economics any free movement of factors of production [land, labour, capital, enterprise] leads to more productive outcomes for everyone [although i'll admit that it has some small downward pressure on low-skilled wages].

Immigrants, in general, are beneficial to an economy, I believe and can justify. Particually in the UK. We have a demographic transition in which we have an aging population. This population needs more younger people for labour, jobs, pensions and the like. Thus, germany and the UK [in demographic transition] will benefit from more working-age men/women arriving in their country.

Also, immigrants generally tend to be the richer ones from their country (say an indian, or a pakistani) and they tend to start businesses much more than the average brit [who just comes from a regular british household] as these pakistanis are the richest of the pakistanis. So, these rich pakistanis come here, and they create jobs by creating businesses at a much higher rate than brits [as the traveliing pakisistanis are generally richer than us].

Thus, immigrantion helps


Some people wouldn't not see it as a benefit.

>>688982968
who´s that?

>>688981342
>: "but.... we don't care about paying 15% more on our exports, if foreigners can't come into my country, I don't need money."

>>688982968
>Wow, that argument really seems sincere. Wait, no it doesn't.

>Wow, that argument really seems sincere. >Wait, no it doesn't.

>Some things are more valuable than money. >Your country might be one of them.

Anon, it's funny you put this, because I made a quote up half an hour ago trying to parody the racists/nationalists : but.... we don't care about paying 15% more on our exports, if foreigners can't come into my country, I don't need money."

I didn't actually expect you to actualize my satire of you.

>>688979542
not just a bit. There will be job losses, the economy will shrink, the financial sector whoch is what pumps up our economy to thae fifth largest, will flee to Frankfurt, and the manufacturing sector, what is left of it, will have a recession. UK will not be fifth for long, and we will all be very much much worse off. But hey, isn't it worth it just to say we are independent? Except that we will have to meet all eu regulations to continue to trade with the EU, our biggest trading partner, and we wont have any say over the regulations at all. Current problems are not caused by EU or Eu regulations - they are caused by Tories and Tory lite New Labour and lib dems fucking us over .

>>688983440
that's general mcarthy on the left [american general and bloke who wanted to nuke korea]
On the right is the Emperor Hirohito, the japanese leader, I believe. It could be Tojo.

>>688983440
Douglas McaArthur and the Japanese Emperor after the conclusion of WW2. MacArthur led a remarkable renaissance in post-war Japan. Then he kicked ass in the invasion of Inchon Korea.

>>688983769
>>688983938

thanks anons

>>688981871
>Convince me to vote "Remain".
>>688983251
cont.

As explained above, you cannot have no tariffs [which are inherently damaging to our economy] and no free movement of labour. The EU will not accept it.

Leaving the EU will cripple us economically by making us uncompetitive compared to EU products [who don't have to pay the tariff].
Economically, over 60% of our exports go to the EU. we'd likely lose most of it if we had tarifss becuase other countries will take up what we exported and they don't have to be that good to beat our business, as tariffs are so large.

The pound sterling [£] dropped massively when the referendum was announced. and now it's more likely [poll closing], the pound is dropping even more as businesses know how bad LeaveEU would be.

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>>688983636
Your words are rather incoherent. Please try again. Your parody has seemed to backfire.

>>688983636
wut?

>>688984239
You said exactly what I said earlier. How is that not a parody?

You do me the great pleasure of looking at a brilliant man, the great Hitchens. I'm sure, if he were here today he'd enjoy my satire of that person.

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>>688971194
Remember Fessenheim.

stay in the eu you cucks your economy will fail without our great german empire

>>35137359
Absolute fucking bullshit.

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I would...
leave!

>>688984381
me+ anyone with political sense: "You cannot have no tariffs and no foreigners, the EU won't accept. "

me: "You can have tariffs and no foreigners, but you'd ruin your economy. It's like saying, fuck money, it's cool because all i care about is no foreigners."

nationalist-anon: "I don't care about tariffs, national income or money. I only want no foreigners to come into my country."

I made a parody of what some nationalists may say, when considering economic and political considerations together (nationalism>more money).
Anon1 actually said what I was joking that some idiots would say.

Anon1 actualized my parody of nationalists.

It's went so perfect, except for it not being funny.

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>>688984433
Communication in the English language is not your strong suit, eh fella?

Your recursive rhetoric is less than unconvincing, it is unclear.

>>688971194
Fuck me I didn't realise Paddy Ashdown was still alive. I mind him from the spitting image days of politics when I was a kid

>>688971194
I have a genuine question for them:
When the next great european war begins, as it will at some point, which side do they want the UK to be on?

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>>688984985
Ah, you have no idea to whom you are 'speaking' with - phantom tax policy battles with a disinterested party. Cheerio.

>>688978263
>Because we're the 5th largest economy in the world and we're doing a pretty good job of being a powerful, independent country before the EU

We're only that large because we have the largest, richest purchaser next to us: The EU.
We're only that large because we used to rule half the world. Since the 60s, we've been massivly down-graded. That's fine, we shouldn't run an empire but expect us to get smaller in general, like in the last 50 years.

Vote leave

>>688974855
Yet you class yourself as black? Why? Have you ever used the race card or say you're not privileged?

>>688985492
Long life to the cheerio

>>688971194
Well, your economy will be left behind, but the people that are in power on your island will stay in power. Either way your country is fucked like the rest of them, so just flip a fucking coin.

>>688985056
Well it's obvious your replies are bait. It just had to be demonstrated to everyone else without ambiguity. Good day, my old chap.

>>688975029
This OP
Make The UK Great Again.

>>688975319
Typical nigger vote

To quote michael hestletine on this question, to whomever is listening to the debate.

"No country has EEC membership [no tariffs] without free movement of labour. The Eu won't accept it."

>>688976789
I wish some of our own British people had your ethic. You probably work harder than half the kingdom. Only ever claimed a total of 7 months dole in the 18 years since I left school yet I get fuck all in return.

>>688985625
you seem angry he calls himself black. You're implying he wants to be a victim. That's not very nice, nor very fair anon.

>>688986301
truth hurts

>>688978418
Moaning about the old empire is as pathetic as niggers moaning about slavery.
I wasn't born to rule over colonies, just like today's niggers have never been slaves. Stop making out like we carry the torch/burden of people that died long ago.

>>688986416
and racists and nationalists generally are un-educated compared to the general public (including the black people they so hate), but I don't go round reminding /b/ of it. Although I have now, because you need some truth in your life.

>>688978164
Pussy, why aren't you wearing it?

>>688981510
Fuck Merkel
Fuck Clinton

>>688986592
>I wasn't born to rule over colonies, just like today's niggers have never been slaves. Stop making out like we carry the torch/burden of people that died long ago.

Whilst you have no moral culpability for the creation of the empire or slavery, it's implications continue today.

Imagine if your grandparents from the 1960 weren't as educated as white people [as most weren't], then that perpetuates through the family [as education follows through the family, loosely]

>>688981309
We have clean water, plenty if food to waste and a powerful army especially for the size of our population.....tell me again why we are a 3rd world country?

>>688981309
and you're a fucking idiot

>>688986643
I never said I hate black people. I simply asked why he categorises himself black yet they are mixed race. I also asked if they have ever played the victim

To any serious people here who wanted to take something away from this thread: Look at the structure of the thread. It started with lots of angry LeaveEU people posting vaguely related pictures that make little to no argument.

When challenged on the hard topics and the consequences of leaving compared to staying, the LeaveEU people have no argument.

When challenged about the choice between free-trade and free-movement, they deny that such a choice exists when it clearly does (4 countries out of EU but in free trade all take free movement of labour)

>>688987359
then i may have assumed you were an average /b/tard on this issue. I'm sorry to tar you with such a brush.

>>688980679
government flushing stolen money down the shitter
>invest

>>688987476
I could've said that the race card was already used when we were notified of them being black and that the police would "kill them"

>>688971194

Play and learn

>>688987608
When you want a national health service to heal your leg after it was damaged at work due to lax health and safety regulation, then i'd like to hear that helping poor people is the wrong thing to do.

I doubt you'd see it that way though.

>>688971194
Those debates wont change a thing. People have no power in such questions. Elite will decide, then feed this decision to people by "referendum".

>>688988330
That's because our media is run for the benefit of its owners, not to release free information.

However, that's not to say you cannot form a relatively unbiased view from the arguments that are given [finding out how valid they are] and other arguments you can create yourself.

These debate change everything, but only if you let it change you and be open to new [and legitimate] evidence.

>>688986958

>Whilst you have no moral culpability for the creation of the empire or slavery
This right here.
I have never discriminated against anyone of another race. I had friends in school from different countries. As a kitchen fitter I've subcontracted different people based on their quality of work. I've fitted kitchens for numerous skin colours and I've always done my job the same.
Am I meant to restrict what I can do or say because I'm a white male? I'm sorry I wasn't born female or of another race.
This is as about as angry as I get on the subject because so many people have been fighting for equal rights for decades and assuming I'm privileged because I'm a white male is as racist and unequal as if I refused work based on skin colour.